Re: An experiment (was Re: Move help menu item...)

2000-02-13 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 19:50:07 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hm, couldn't we use the event handling system to automatically resize the toolbox to a new good value on every resize event: If you enlarge the toolbox the window size automatically snaps on the next convenient size and vice

Re: Toolbox layout and Help menu

2000-02-13 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:05:42 -0500 (EST), Glyph Lefkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It seems like this is really the only reasonable option -- I think that there should be a 'menu' spot in the tools, like the top-left menu in the image windows, since the toolbar is frequently too thin for the

Re: Problems with gimp-1.1.17?

2000-02-13 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:32:41 + (GMT), Austin Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Maybe we should make it our problem. I think that given the number of people who are bitten by this, is there nothing we can do in the gimp to work-around the GTK problem? Why not just fix the problem (although I

Re: resend

2000-02-13 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 10:06:24 -0500, Robert L Krawitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: So one thing that springs to mind here is if the Gimp itself were to warn if you attempt to exit while a plug-in is in progress of execution. Gimp folks, would that be feasible? That would seem useful for other

Re: An experiment (was Re: Move help menu item...)

2000-02-13 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:21:39 -0500 (EST), Glyph Lefkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Rather than doing this, wouldn't it be possible to do the same thing that terminals do, I.E. make the window resizable by char cells rather than pixels? I like the fact that I can resize the window as I work,

Re: CMYK when?

2000-02-09 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:47:42 -0500, Robert L Krawitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: CMYK is a bit of an oddball subject. Partly this is because there are so many variants (CMY, CMYK, CcMmYK, CcMmYy, CcMmYyK), and partly because (to the best of my knowledge) this color space is really only useful in the

Re: Buggy plugins

2000-02-06 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Sat, 05 Feb 2000 23:50:56 -0800, "Martin Weber" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Here a list of buggy plugins in GIMP-1.1.16: tileable blur plugin: the status bar is appearing in an extra window -- color exchange / color mapping plugins: color selection: you

Re: Sample Colorize [Was: Re: Buggy plugins]

2000-02-06 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Sun, 06 Feb 2000 19:04:12 -0500, "Garry R. Osgood" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Personally, I think similiar tricks may be pulled fully in the confines of the Curve tool, but as Marc pointed out, not everyone is a copy of me (or is it 'a copy of Daniel Egger'? I forget ... ;), so some people may

Re: important: automatic mirroring to the gimp cvs

2000-02-05 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:38:32 +0100, Marc Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ok. I've just enabled automatic mirroring from the sourceforge cvs back to the gimp cvs. FWIW, I think this should be used sparingly. It is my belief that we should try to move plugins into a separate package from the

Re: Plugins at Sourceforge

2000-02-05 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:40:32 -0500, Zach Beane - MINT [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Count this as a cry out against it. I suggest waiting for a logical pause in development, such as the release of GIMP 1.2, to begin making these not-insubstantial changes in source management. My position is

Re: Removing pencil?

2000-02-05 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Sat, 5 Feb 2000 11:45:16 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I think it's time to remove that useless pencil before the release of the magic version 1.2. Did anyone use it in the last time? It contains no functionality that paintbrush doesn't have except of hard edges (anyone needing that

Re: story on advogato

2000-02-05 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Sat, 5 Feb 2000 21:00:19 -0700 (MST), "Michael J. Hammel" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The last comment I saw under this story said that a $2K award was given to "Wilbur the Gimp". Since Gimp has no non-profit (or for profit) organization, who got that money? Just curious. It goes to Yosh, who

Re: Plugins at Sourceforge

2000-02-05 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Sat, 5 Feb 2000 12:33:38 -0800, "Michael J. Hammel" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm curious why any new plug-ins should be added to the core *at all*. Gimp's distribution is fairly large as it is. Isn't it getting time to limit additional plug-ins to the core distribution to plug-ins which are

Re: Performance

2000-02-04 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Fri, 4 Feb 2000 09:52:30 +0100 (MET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raphael Quinet) said: I disagree. This would only encourage some users to re-compile their own version of the Gimp in a private directory in order to get around the hardcoded limits. Frankly, I disagree. Systems where admins are

Re: Performance

2000-02-03 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 19:33:31 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If you have a shared maschine the best would be to let the administrator choose how much memory each user will get because users'll ALWAYS try to get what they can even if it makes no sense It might be a good idea to have a

Re: Print plug-in

2000-02-01 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Tue, 01 Feb 2000 13:19:03 +0100, Torsten Rahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Of course I read on the Gnome-Office-site that Gimp would be part of Gnome-Office. Well I was quite surprised to read that as I didn't see any discussions about this topic here. GNOME claims GIMP as part of GNOME because

Re: Print plug-in

2000-02-01 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 13:15:17 -0600 (CST), Tim Mooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I agree that would be the best solution, but I'm afraid it's not that easy. I've submitted quite a few very small portability patches against ORBit from as far back as the 0.3.X days, and virtually every one of my

Re: Print plug-in

2000-02-01 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 15:11:13 -0500 (EST), Glyph Lefkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: No, and it's their right not to. If you believe this should be a requirement, it should be part of the license. GIMP is a part of Red Hat Linux, why shouldn't it be a part of the GNOME office suite? If I recall

Re: Print plug-in

2000-02-01 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:24:35 -0600, "Shawn T . Amundson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: But hasn't Mozilla basically given up on this idea and just used their own toolkit? Mozilla certainly looks crappy on the Mac at any rate. I was referring to the commercial Netscape product, rather than Mozilla. I

Re: Plugins at Sourceforge

2000-01-31 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Mon, 31 Jan 2000 08:57:59 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: additional plug-ins. Some things, like translations, must be part of the distribution currently. This needs to be fixed. :) Do you volunteer? I don't understand translations at all. :) Kelly

Re: Print plug-in

2000-01-31 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Mon, 31 Jan 2000 16:33:53 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Kelly, please don't spread FUD. People build gnome-libs on Debian boxes, old broken Slackware boxes, FreeBSD, Solaris, and other beasts. What library are you talking about? popt. If you read gnome-hackers

Re: Print plug-in

2000-01-31 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 01:18:54 +, Nick Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: From the user's perspective The Gimp is part of GNOME. There's no good reason for users to have this perception, though, since the only relation GIMP has with GNOME is that GNOME uses GIMP's custom-developed widget set, and

Re: Colormanagement

2000-01-30 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 21:53:25 +0100, Marc Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: As long as they do not claim that their code is ANSI-C. I can remember my first (and last) patch to the KDE developers that converted their code to real C++, and they told me "F*ck off! Get a real c++ compiler!". Ever since

Re: The Gimp: New Generation

2000-01-29 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:27:16 -0600 (CST), Dean Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: EVERY gui developer (casual or not) should be required to read Tufte's design books before being allowed to code. Heh. Send me copies and I'll gladly read them. :) Kelly

Re: feature requests?

2000-01-29 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:53:47 +, Nick Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: All the existing plug-ins that work with palettes (INDEXED images would be even more useless than they already are if no plug-ins could work with them) use calls like: I guess it's GIMP palettes that are badly exposed. IIRC,

Re: feature requests?

2000-01-29 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 00:11:47 +0100, Marc Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If there were a way of adding a prominent notice like "DO NOT USE THIS BUG-TRACKER TO REPORT GIMP BUGS, INSTEAD, GO TO http..."... Have you asked Sourceforge? Kelly

Re: feature requests?

2000-01-29 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 01:31:52 +, Nick Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Gimp palettes are files :) Yes, but when you have LOTS of custom palettes, having "Reload" as the only way to get a new palette into the GIMP is NOT pleasant. (I have hundreds of custom palettes and have had, at times,

Re: The Gimp: New Generation

2000-01-29 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:59:23 +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: This is handled much better after Mitch overworked most plug-ins UI once again. If you still find places that should be changed, please provide a patch. If Mitch has gone to the effort to normalize existing plug-ins, I

PDB_PASS_THROUGH

2000-01-28 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
I can find no evidence that this is actually used anywhere in the GIMP. Anybody know what it's for and whether it even works? Kelly

Re: Plugins at Sourceforge

2000-01-28 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:40:56 +0100, Marc Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: One possible reason is that it is a pain in the ass to install additional plug-ins. Some things, like translations, must be part of the distribution currently. This needs to be fixed. :) Kelly

Re: Print plug-in

2000-01-28 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 18:03:32 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: (As for footprint, well, the GIMP is not terribly lightweight either) :-) GIMP's a lot lighter than gnome-libs. I would substantially oppose any serious dependence on gnome-libs in GIMP. Especially since

Re: Plugins at Sourceforge

2000-01-28 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:47:25 +0100, Marc Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Most (but of course not all) of the problems are related to the fact that the menus are too full and can'T be changed, not necessarily that too many plug-ins are installed (which is mostly a diskspace problem). One of the

Re: Speaking of additional plug-ins

2000-01-26 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:31:52 +, "Steinar H. Gunderson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Better yet, a GIMP interface. If we are to change the entire plug-in architecture anyway, we should make a single way of compiling and installing them. I've thought about this somewhat. I had a vague idea in

Re: [gimp-devel] Re: End-user feedback: Perl logulator innerbevel

2000-01-25 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 20:53:30 +0100, Marc Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: As a matter of fact, I couldn't. Why do you think I could? Anybody can do anything, with enough effort. :) Kelly

bug #2355

2000-01-23 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
Anybody understand what the guy in #2355 is asking for? It looks like he wants DynText layers to rerender on layer scale, which would be a major architectural change (not impossible, just not something that should be squeezed in under a freeze). Is this just a user misunderstanding? Kelly

Re: Addition of new plug-ins

2000-01-21 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:44:36 +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, tonight two new plug-ins were checked into the tree. I now that we have not officially declared a plug-in freeze, but I think it was somehow clear that it is too late to add new plug-ins. The CVS ChangeLog claims:

Re: Thanks (Re: Gimp splash images)

2000-01-15 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:43:23 +, alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Maybe the earlier splash images were only distributed in GIF format, but then they moved to PPM after Burn All GIFs? Just a guess. The splash images have always been PPMs. You can retrieve all of them (at least since 1.00) from

Re: gimp SWF plugin

2000-01-15 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 22:22:05 +0100, Marc Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I don't see the problem (yet)? Plug-ins do not need to be GPL'ed (at least not when the last rmeaining license bits have been resolved ;-) They do, however, have to be compatible with LGPL. That's not saying very much. :)

Re: Thanks (Re: Gimp splash images)

2000-01-13 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:45:50 -0800 (PST), Arcterex [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I personally like both the balloon and brush image. Maybe both can fit in somewhere? I understand I'm just a lurker here and have no real clout, but maybe one can be the splash (I'm thinking balloon) and the brush one

Re: [ANNOUNCE] GimpMill - A Sawmill Theme Tool

2000-01-11 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:55:10 +0800, Ian McKellar [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: For each of the frame parts create a separate layer in the way described above, but call each of these "PART: name" where name will be used in the image name. To set frame part attributes append "name = value" pairs to the

Re: New plug-in

2000-01-07 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:40:02 +1100 (EST), Paul F Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have made a plug-in that does some interesting things, like applying a theme taken from one image and applying it to another, or making an image tilable. More details at http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~pfh/fixer/