Re: Clean up and Re: Help System
On Friday, 12 Nov 1999, Sven Neumann wrote: Here is my list of minor things to clean up and make better (Without breaking the freeze). First the list and then the discussion below it. YES!! I also like the new layout. It seems more consistent. I'm not sure about leaving out all the script-fu's. I'm worried about people complaining that stuff that always used to be there isn't there anymore. Also, is there really a need to group scripts by the interpreter they run under? I don't think so. You wouldn't put shell scripts in /usr/bin/sh-scripts/, but perl scripts in /usr/bin/perl-scripts/, would you, so why make the distinction in gimp? If the script works, a user shouldn't need to know which language it's written in. Austin
Re: [gimp-devel] Re: Clean up and Re: Help System
Sven Neumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Magnify: Shift zoom out --- Ctrl zoom in Isn't it just always Zoom In (I mean unless Shift is pressed of course)? Just an idea: middle mouse-button is panning, why not Shift-middle button = Zoom Out and ctrl middle-button = zoom in. (Personally I'd prefer it the opposite: Shift: Zoom In, CTRL: Zoom out, but I cannot tell you why, it seems more logical for me...) Maybe using alt for allowing window resizing is a good idea. In a post 1.2 step we can make the Magnify tool behave the same and simply bind the middle mouse-button per default to the magnify-tool. Then you could assign arbitrary tools to the middle mb - for example to easily switch between the eraser and the paint tool. BTW: Shift middle-button + some dragging easily leads to artefacts when the paint tool is active! Apropos cleanup: What about removing the pencil and substitute it with a "hard edge" toggle in the Painbrush? Sometimes it is quite hard to convince the people to use the paintbrush instead of the pencil... Bye, Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/
Re: Clean up and Re: Help System
Here is my list of minor things to clean up and make better (Without breaking the freeze). First the list and then the discussion below it. YES!! I do especially like the new menu hierarchy you suggested. Any volunteers for this job? PS: Sven I think this need to be added to your list. Magnify: Shift zoom out ---Ctrl zoom in Isn't it just always Zoom In (I mean unless Shift is pressed of course)? Salut, Sven
Re: Clean up and Re: Help System
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 01:11:54AM +0100, Olof S Kylander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * All Script in Xtns should be under ZZ-Fu (ZZZ == Lang) I strongly disagree. From a usability perspective this is nonsense. It might be nice for a user to know whom to blame for the script (but the language does not help much), but otherwise the user just has to memorize one fact more. It's difficult enough to remember wether a plug-in belongs to (e.g.) xtens/render or xtns/draw. Having to remember the language in which the plug-in is written (which means _nothing_ to most users) is only an additional burden. all scripts - Gimp's menu structure will be expanded by "two", making it even more bulky to work with. The fact that small scripts that can be "undo awar"e are placed in non logical place (i.e under Script-XX. Makes scripts even more messy to use. While this is mostly true, some perl scripts are very useful to all users. the problem is that the expensive of installing gimp-perl to "just" get a few standard plug-ins is relatively high. But there are worse things than that... PS: I have not _yet_ read your whole mail, but I seem to agree with the rest ;) -- -==- | ==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |e| -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | |
