Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Re: GIMP and multiple processors

2005-03-02 Thread Daniel Egger
On 02.03.2005, at 00:23, GSR - FR wrote: Yes, radial rainbow hoop gradient (linear 6 pixel to right sawtooth) without supersampling it paints mostly red and with it shows the muddy colour mix you would get if you render big and scale down:

MDI [was Re: [Gimp-developer] Report from GIMP talk at FOSDEM]

2005-03-02 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 20:03, Raphaël Quinet wrote: - I got some expected questions about the user interface and these turned into a 10 minutes debate between some who would like to see some kind of MDI support (like Photoshop and other programs) and others who prefer the current

Re: [Gimp-developer] Report from GIMP talk at FOSDEM

2005-03-02 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Raphal Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - One guy asked about better support for typesetting and said that the GIMP was unusable for any serious work if it did not support text orientation and letter spacing. He insisted very much on that. Thanks to Pippin for telling him that

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP and multiple processors

2005-03-02 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Daniel Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just played around with the blend tool on a 100x100px image and looked very closely for any artifacts with and without supersampling. The result was that I couldn't produce any visible aliasing effects no matter how hard I try other than by using

Re: [Gimp-developer] Adaptive Contrast Enhancement

2005-03-02 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shlomi Fish and I independently ported the ACE plugin to GIMP 2.0/2.2. Now both codes are reunited again. I think it works very well now. Shlomi removed a lot of bugs I was not able to correct. It would be great if it could be added to GIMP-2.2

Re: [Gimp-developer] Report from GIMP talk at FOSDEM

2005-03-02 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am sorry but last I checked, Pango didn't have support for letter spacing yet. Hmm, apparently that was a wrong assumption. It looks like Owen sneaked this feature into Pango without adding any note whatsoever to bug #125483. Enabling it in GIMP

Re: [Gimp-developer] Adaptive Contrast Enhancement

2005-03-02 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 14:30, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shlomi Fish and I independently ported the ACE plugin to GIMP 2.0/2.2. Now both codes are reunited again. I think it works very well now. Shlomi removed a lot of bugs I was not able to correct. It

Re: [Gimp-developer] Adaptive Contrast Enhancement

2005-03-02 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 09:30, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shlomi Fish and I independently ported the ACE plugin to GIMP 2.0/2.2. Now both codes are reunited again. I think it works very well now. Shlomi removed a lot of bugs I was not able to correct. It

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP and multiple processors

2005-03-02 Thread Daniel Egger
On 02.03.2005, at 13:29, Sven Neumann wrote: Sorry, but I don't see your point. It has been show that supersampling makes sense for some corner cases. It is off by default and users can activate it in case they run into one of the corner cases. Of course it could be faster but where's your

Re: [Gimp-developer] Adaptive Contrast Enhancement

2005-03-02 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, how about adding it in gimp-2.3? That depends on whether you would prefer to have it included or would like to distribute it separately. I also haven't checked the code yet. Sven ___ Gimp-developer

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP and multiple processors

2005-03-02 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Daniel Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No problem on this side of the wire other then that is feature is counterintuitive, slow, undocumented and pretty much useless for the blend tool except for deliberate cases. I agree that it is slow, but it is certainly not counterintuitive, it is

Re: [Gimp-developer] Adaptive Contrast Enhancement

2005-03-02 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 17:33, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, how about adding it in gimp-2.3? That depends on whether you would prefer to have it included or would like to distribute it separately. I would prefer to have it included. I also

Re: [Gimp-developer] Report from GIMP talk at FOSDEM

2005-03-02 Thread Dennis Bjorklund
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Sven Neumann wrote: Pango didn't have support for letter spacing yet nor does it support vertical text. The release notes for pango 1.5 includes this which I hope should help with the vertical text (or any angle): * Add support for rotated rendering to the FT2 backend

[Gimp-developer] Re: Re: GIMP and multiple processors

2005-03-02 Thread GSR - FR
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2005-03-01 at 2059.06 -0800): It ought to be easy enough to detect when antialiasing will be needed and automagically turn it on. I havnt looked at the supersampling code yet, but I think it might be much faster to do the supersampling in a second pass since such a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Adaptive Contrast Enhancement

2005-03-02 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would prefer to have it included. Perhaps you should add it to CVS then. The sooner the better. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu

Re: [Gimp-developer] Report from GIMP talk at FOSDEM

2005-03-02 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Dennis Bjorklund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pango didn't have support for letter spacing yet nor does it support vertical text. The release notes for pango 1.5 includes this which I hope should help with the vertical text (or any angle): * Add support for rotated rendering to the FT2

Re: [Gimp-developer] Report from GIMP talk at FOSDEM

2005-03-02 Thread Dennis Bjorklund
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Sven Neumann wrote: transform routines). Vertical text however has the glyphs all upright but is rendered from top to bottom (like chinese). Isn't that just normal (centered) text with newlines between each character? -- /Dennis Björklund

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Re: GIMP and multiple processors

2005-03-02 Thread Daniel Egger
On 02.03.2005, at 20:22, GSR - FR wrote: IOW, supersampling is nice for the small set of cases in which it really matters, otherwise it is going to be slower always. Of course, it is going to be faster in many cases than full sampling and scaling down. If anybody figures a better method than user

Re: [Gimp-developer] Report from GIMP talk at FOSDEM

2005-03-02 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Dennis Bjorklund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: transform routines). Vertical text however has the glyphs all upright but is rendered from top to bottom (like chinese). Isn't that just normal (centered) text with newlines between each character? No, that would give you a line height of

Re: MDI [was Re: [Gimp-developer] Report from GIMP talk at FOSDEM]

2005-03-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
] ...to see some kind of MDI support... ]I'd like to... Could it be possible to dynamically turn this feature on and off? Usually MDI gets in the way, but sometimes (editing multiple sessions, for example) it would be helpful to have it for just a moment and turn it back off afterwards.