Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Usability test - Results available
Juhana Sadeharju <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>From: Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>If you are still using GIMP 1.2.3 then we don't want to hear from you >>on the gimp-developer list. Update to 2.0 (at least) or keep quiet. > > Hey, I just wanted to point out what usability problems we users have. As Sven pointed out, describing your problems with GIMP 1.2.3 serves no purpose whatsoever. > Those who are willing to check it. Open two images. Open color levels > dialogs for both images. What do you have? You are supposed to check that yourself. Wild guessing doesn't help a bit. Get GIMP 2.0 and come back. ciao, --mitch ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Re: Usability test - Results available
>From: Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >If you are still using GIMP 1.2.3 then we don't want to hear from you >on the gimp-developer list. Update to 2.0 (at least) or keep quiet. Hey, I just wanted to point out what usability problems we users have. Those who are willing to check it. Open two images. Open color levels dialogs for both images. What do you have? -*- Can GIMP be scripted to automatically open images, test out tools, move pointer, draw, and take screenshots about that all? I would then check out from screenshots how the tools work without having to take a look at the code or to make always difficult installations at every turn (I get new GIMP when I install new Linux dist). Such script could be generated by recording actions. When new tools are coded, their usage is recorded to the script. The script could also be used to verify that the installations went ok. Juhana ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Usability test - Results available
Hi, Juhana Sadeharju <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm still using GIMP 1.2.3 but those problems could still be present > in GIMP 2.0 -- please verify yourself, I cannot do it. If you are still using GIMP 1.2.3 then we don't want to hear from you on the gimp-developer list. Update to 2.0 (at least) or keep quiet. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Re: Usability test - Results available
>From: Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] > >I get the impression that you did not understand how the key modifiers >of the selection tools work. I admit that it's not obvious but it's a >very powerful concept that I would hate to loose. Multiple selection tools. There is always room for an alternative way to make selections. There is no need to modify existing tools if they are good. Just copy the code of an existing tool and modify it. Just a reminder: I would need that unirectangle selection tool. >If you go to another image the tool is resetted, the dialog is closed >and a new dialog is opened so your argument doesn't hold up. That is very annoying because the new dialog window pops up at the pointer. Unless in GIMP 2.0 new dialogs goes automatically to a dock. Sometimes closing the old one and opening a new one is totally not wanted: it would be impossible to compare the color levels of two images if only one level dialog can be open at a time. I'm still using GIMP 1.2.3 but those problems could still be present in GIMP 2.0 -- please verify yourself, I cannot do it. -*- About the path tool: could Shift (or any) be used to cycle between modes? Would that reduce button-modifier-overloading? The modes could sort theirself to the most-recently-used order, in which case cycling starts always at the top mode. Cycling would stop when modes has been selected for, e.g., 2 seconds and would stop when user does something else than press the Shift. Regards, Juhana ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Usability test - Results available
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 03:15:00PM +0200, Roman Joost wrote: > On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 02:59:37PM +0200, GSR - FR wrote: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-06-04 at 1337.31 +0200): > > > http://www.relevantive.de/gimp/report/results_usabilitytest_05.04.html > > > - Clearly mark the current layer > > > > Or is this a problem of translating the report? > No - this seems to be an issue of the default SuSE theme. The tests were > made on a SuSE distribution with an installed GIMP 2.0. They're using > QT and GTK+ themes together and it seems, that something is broken > there. > this is the type of thing i was worried about when the usability tests were being conducted by people who dont know linux or gimp and only know windows and photoshop. had there been someone present at the tests who had any experience with helping people with the gimp, there would have been someone there who knew how many of the gimp's "problems" are actually the problem of the distribution. when will the day come that linux users can test other software and have their opinions mean so much? carol ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Usability test - Results available
Hi, GSR - FR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > - Clearly mark the current layer > > I do not understand what does that mean, it seems to be marked, and > the name shown too in the default config for status bar string. Take > for example: > > http://www.gimp.org/screenshots/linux_screenshot2.png > http://www.gimp.org/screenshots/windowsxp_screenshot3.png > http://www.gimp.org/screenshots/macosx_screenshot1.png > > Or is this a problem of translating the report? It is a problem of the GTK+ theme that has been used. Someone needs to seriously kick SuSE's ass to have them fix the theme they ship by default. Of course with such a broken theme GIMP is hardly usable at all. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Usability test - Results available
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 02:59:37PM +0200, GSR - FR wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-06-04 at 1337.31 +0200): > > http://www.relevantive.de/gimp/report/results_usabilitytest_05.04.html > > - Clearly mark the current layer > > Or is this a problem of translating the report? No - this seems to be an issue of the default SuSE theme. The tests were made on a SuSE distribution with an installed GIMP 2.0. They're using QT and GTK+ themes together and it seems, that something is broken there. Greetings, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[Gimp-developer] Re: Usability test - Results available
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-06-04 at 1337.31 +0200): > http://www.relevantive.de/gimp/report/results_usabilitytest_05.04.html > - Clearly mark the current layer I do not understand what does that mean, it seems to be marked, and the name shown too in the default config for status bar string. Take for example: http://www.gimp.org/screenshots/linux_screenshot2.png http://www.gimp.org/screenshots/windowsxp_screenshot3.png http://www.gimp.org/screenshots/macosx_screenshot1.png Or is this a problem of translating the report? GSR ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
