Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: couple possible TODO items
At 03:32 PM 03/29/2001 -0500, you wrote: >"Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" wrote: >Are the "one hour photo" type film developing and processing machines >available internationally? > >They have designed these machines so that morons can operate them in the >local drug store now. I can't imagine Fuji and Kodak making too many >different sized machines. But I don't know how available this is >internationally. The comment about sheets of paper varying slightly in size applies to prints from photo labs. Prints from the same roll of film can be of slightly varying sizes. I think the suggestion of using a CD was the best so far if an object is to be used. Barring the odd square CD (yes, I have one here), or business card sized CD, their size should be much more consistent than other objects. Also, a person using the GIMP probably has at least one CD from some piece of software handy. Cheers! Kevin. (http://www.interlog.com/~kcozens/) E-mail:kcozens at interlog dot com|"What are we going to do today, Borg?" or:ve3syb at rac dot ca |"Same thing we always do, Pinkutus: Packet:ve3syb@ve3yra.#con.on.ca.na| Try to assimilate the world!" #include| -Pinkutus & the Borg ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: couple possible TODO items
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Nick Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 10:56:32AM +0100, Austin Donnelly wrote: > > I really don't see what's wrong with using a ruler. The CD idea is > > cute, I have to agree. > > There is a tiny problem. I can hold the ruler _near_ my screen but I > cannot use it to measure the screen because it is too big and won't > touch the surface. > > So now I have to look for _another_ ruler. We could mandate that all > Gimp users buy 19" monitors? I experienced the same problems: on some monitors, I cannot use my ruler accurately because the ruler is too big and the edges of the monitor prevent me from putting it on the surface. On an old monitor that is badly curved, I could touch the surface with one end of the ruler but the other end was several centimeters away from the surface because the ruler was not flexible enough. Using A4 paper would be a nice solution because it can easily follow the surface of curved screens. Also, if you have a small monitor and an A4 sheet will not fit (in landscape mode), then you can fold it in two and you get A5, which can also be measured easily without loosing much precision. For more information on standard paper sizes, see this excellent resource: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html -Raphael ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: couple possible TODO items
On Friday, 30 Mar 2001, Nick Lamb wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 10:56:32AM +0100, Austin Donnelly wrote: > > I really don't see what's wrong with using a ruler. The CD idea is > > cute, I have to agree. > > There is a tiny problem. I can hold the ruler _near_ my screen but I > cannot use it to measure the screen because it is too big and won't > touch the surface. > > So now I have to look for _another_ ruler. We could mandate that all > Gimp users buy 19" monitors? My original "stretchable" ruler idea gets around this, because you the user chooses how much to measure and line up. Possibly as little as 1" if you want. Austin ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: couple possible TODO items
On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 10:56:32AM +0100, Austin Donnelly wrote: > I really don't see what's wrong with using a ruler. The CD idea is > cute, I have to agree. There is a tiny problem. I can hold the ruler _near_ my screen but I cannot use it to measure the screen because it is too big and won't touch the surface. So now I have to look for _another_ ruler. We could mandate that all Gimp users buy 19" monitors? Nick. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: couple possible TODO items
On Thursday, 29 Mar 2001, Jason Maskell wrote: > I don't own a ruler. I don't know many people who are not in school who do. > Tape measure maybe.. Ruler, what for? Surely anyone doing graphics work to fit a specific size will need a ruler to check any printed drafts etc, though? I really don't see what's wrong with using a ruler. The CD idea is cute, I have to agree. While there is a standard size from credit cards, some id/membership cards that claim to be the standard size aren't. I've discovered this by attempting to stuff them into a card wallet, and them not fitting. Austin ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: couple possible TODO items
I don't own a ruler. I don't know many people who are not in school who do. Tape measure maybe.. Ruler, what for? Cheers, Jason - Original Message - From: "Branko Collin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: couple possible TODO items > On 29 Mar 2001, at 15:32, Carol Spears wrote: > > "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" wrote: > > [credit cards, photos, blank sheets of paper in A4 and letter format, > cds] > > What is wrong with rulers? > > -- > branko collin > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > Gimp-developer mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: couple possible TODO items
On 29 Mar 2001, at 15:32, Carol Spears wrote: > "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" wrote: [credit cards, photos, blank sheets of paper in A4 and letter format, cds] What is wrong with rulers? -- branko collin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: couple possible TODO items
"Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" wrote: [snip] > That and other sizes, cos we do not use 4 * 6 (uuum, maybe similar, > but not named that way, that is sure). > [snip] Over here in Holland we measure sizes of photographs in centimeters. Lourens ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: couple possible TODO items
"Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" wrote: > > That and other sizes, cos we do not use 4 * 6 (uuum, maybe similar, > but not named that way, that is sure). > Are the "one hour photo" type film developing and processing machines available internationally? They have designed these machines so that morons can operate them in the local drug store now. I can't imagine Fuji and Kodak making too many different sized machines. But I don't know how available this is internationally. ... along with everything else I don't know. Thanks for your time. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Re: couple possible TODO items
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-03-29 at 1450.11 -0500): > What about those little end pieces of 35mm film that have no pictures? > Even the sprocket holes should be standard. Somebody proposed 35mm film too. > Or photos. Machines do so much of the processing now, perhaps they are > standard by now. It seems like 4x6 would be a good size for many That and other sizes, cos we do not use 4 * 6 (uuum, maybe similar, but not named that way, that is sure). > resolutions of screen. Letter size seems too big for my 800x640 > display. 800 * 640 ? GSR ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: couple possible TODO items
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-03-29 at .26 -0700): > > Ugh, speaking of error, all so-called "letter" paper isn't necessarily the > > same size. I've had two "letter" papers vary in size by almost half a > > centimeter! > > Oooh well, another reason to use DIN papers, metric systems and such. > If countries have problems with papers, how can the put things on > Mars? /me ducks and runs ;P My guess is it's mostly cheap companies skimping out. But the error is on both sides of the "correct" standard, so I dunno. Paper marketed specifically for printers does seem to be more standardized, but I've still seen a noticable (maybe 1/16") difference between sheets. That's nothing for a printer, but it's enough to get your resolution subtily wrong. :( Rockwalrus ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Re: couple possible TODO items
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-03-29 at .26 -0700): > Ugh, speaking of error, all so-called "letter" paper isn't necessarily the > same size. I've had two "letter" papers vary in size by almost half a > centimeter! Oooh well, another reason to use DIN papers, metric systems and such. If countries have problems with papers, how can the put things on Mars? /me ducks and runs ;P GSR ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Re: couple possible TODO items
[Sorry if you get this twice, but my ISP is stupid and has put the modem pool in a black list, and I have to choose: buggy outgoing server (delayed original copy) or direct drop banned to some lists (used few)... any help with conditional sendmail conf welcome] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-03-27 at 1740.35 -0500): > one of the few universal standards we could come up with on our #gimp > brainstorm though (double-a batteries being another :). Following the talk, I discovered a link, which seems to explain PPI, DPI and LPI as I read in a manual (one I am unable to find now). It is http://www.techcolor.com/help/resolution.html . I also found some others docs, of course, and some mix ideas, others match 100%. > Well, A4 was hypothetical. Perhaps it could have a number of standard > objects (A4 paper, US Letter paper, CD) that you could choose from to > do your sizing. > Are credit cards of a standard size? They are plastic, so I guess they will scratch too. But better have a big list of items than a small one. I think some standard paper sizes (A4, A5, US letter, what do other Earth places use?) & CDs, at least to start. GSR ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
