Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp interface changes

2009-03-30 Thread David Gowers
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Nathael Pajani wrote: > Hi all! > > The number of lines of code has nothing to do with what is important. > Gnome is a UI > Window managers are UI > GIMP is an Image Manipulation Program > The User interface is here to allow access to it's capabilities as an image

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp interface changes

2009-03-30 Thread Simon Budig
Nathael Pajani (g...@nathael.net) wrote: > Right. Because I do not see why there are now two windows at startup. > Yes, you pointed to the wiki explanation already. It seems you are all OK for > this empty unuseful window at Gimp startup Please don't confuse your opinion with facts. This window i

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp interface changes

2009-03-30 Thread Nathael Pajani
Hi all! Tobias Jakobs wrote : > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 00:30, Nathael Pajani wrote: >> These are dockable. And we can create as many windows as we want, with >> groups of >> these tabbed inside. This is customization. >> The main menu (http://www.nathael.org/Data/main_menu.jpg) should be dockab

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp interface changes

2009-03-30 Thread Tobias Jakobs
Hello! On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 00:30, Nathael Pajani wrote: > David Gowers a écrit : > > These are dockable. And we can create as many windows as we want, with groups > of > these tabbed inside. This is customization. > The main menu (http://www.nathael.org/Data/main_menu.jpg) should be dockabl

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp interface changes

2009-03-29 Thread Guillermo Espertino
The more I read this, the more I feel that a solution like the present in Inkscape (wich is not precisely an example of a great interface) would be a one-time solution for everyone. Just to see what I'm talking about, open a new Inkscape session, go the the right edge of the window and drag the bar

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp interface changes

2009-03-29 Thread David Gowers
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Nathael Pajani wrote: > David Gowers a écrit : >> >> Hello Nathael, > > Hi ! > Nice to have a constructive answer from time to time :) > >> Removing customizability is best. I'm not kidding. Customizability is >> what happens when you can't figure out how to make t

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp interface changes

2009-03-29 Thread Nathael Pajani
David Gowers a écrit : > Hello Nathael, Hi ! Nice to have a constructive answer from time to time :) > Removing customizability is best. I'm not kidding. Customizability is > what happens when you can't figure out how to make the program behave > sensibly in 99% of situations. Every point of custo

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp interface changes

2009-03-28 Thread Martin Nordholts
Nathael Pajani wrote: > > You are making a comparison to the Linux kernel that is completely > inadequate > Point of view. The whole point was about stable interfaces, and saying to the > users to "move back to the previous version if they did not like the changes > (what if kernel developers s

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp interface changes

2009-03-28 Thread David Gowers
Hello Nathael, On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Nathael Pajani wrote: > Hi all, > >  > It appears that your only problem is that things are changing. Sorry, but > you >  > will have to get along with that. We are not going to stop ourselves from >  > changing the GIMP user interface to the bette

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp interface changes

2009-03-28 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Nathael Pajani wrote: >  > Sorry, but the GIMP user interface sucks and that urgently needs to >  > change. > Has there been a survey about this ? http://www.mmiworks.net/eng/publications/2006/11/creating-user-scenarios-with-gimpteam.html http://gui.gimp.org/ Al