Re: GIMP help docs
On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 08:46:19PM -0500, "Garry R. Osgood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess most of us just ignore these problems, but just how difficult > > would it be to fix this? Are we (simon and me) currently the only ones > > having these prblems? > > Selection going away: http://bugs.gnome.org/db/10/10498.html "Marching Ants die >untimely deaths" > > I regularly observe the selection disappearing when I use the Wacom Tablet, and > setting it as an input device through ->Device Input. I have not observed > it otherwise. > > Do you recall if your incident is purely/partially tablet related? there certainly was a tablet at the machine (it strangely only hapopens on simons machine(s), not ever on mine), but my main point was that the rush to release 1.2 might not be a good idea, since there are a lot of non-fatal problems that, in the long run, lead to an unusable gimp. However, I use gimp everyday, and it does work most of the time, and it REALLY improves weekly! -- -==- | ==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |e| -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | |
Re: GIMP help docs
Marc Lehmann wrote: > Simon and me are currently at the Systems'99, and, well, we probably need > a lot of couple of beta-releases ;) gimp seems to have a lot of small > problems like the selection going away after some time and not coming > back, refresh problems (a lot, but difficult to reproduce) on all our > machines, and the return of the "w->src > w->bytes * ..." warning. > > I guess most of us just ignore these problems, but just how difficult > would it be to fix this? Are we (simon and me) currently the only ones > having these prblems? Selection going away: http://bugs.gnome.org/db/10/10498.html "Marching Ants die untimely deaths" I regularly observe the selection disappearing when I use the Wacom Tablet, and setting it as an input device through ->Device Input. I have not observed it otherwise. Do you recall if your incident is purely/partially tablet related? Thank you. Be good, be well Garry
Re: GIMP help docs
On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 02:55:39PM +0100, Raphael Quinet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > helpbrowser. > > Hmmm... Looks like we need a couple more beta releases before 1.2. ;-) Simon and me are currently at the Systems'99, and, well, we probably need a lot of couple of beta-releases ;) gimp seems to have a lot of small problems like the selection going away after some time and not coming back, refresh problems (a lot, but difficult to reproduce) on all our machines, and the return of the "w->src > w->bytes * ..." warning. I guess most of us just ignore these problems, but just how difficult would it be to fix this? Are we (simon and me) currently the only ones having these prblems? -- -==- | ==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |e| -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | |
Re: GIMP help docs
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raphael Quinet) writes: > Hmmm... Looks like we need a couple more beta releases before 1.2. ;-) Nope, the new help system will most probably be integrated after 1.2.0 was released. There's no point in waiting any longer. > But I am wondering... What's the point in maintaining a Gimp-specific > help browser? Since we think it's nice to have a fast and small (screen estate) browser for the gimp help files. The help files will however stay usable from any HTML-browser out there. Salut, Sven
Re: GIMP help docs
On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 6 Nov, Sven Neumann wrote: > > If you want me to change the helpbrowser, I need a detailed list of > > the changes that are necessary. > > just the changes we talked about: Removal of the HTML navigation bar > and using the supplied links in this bars for the buttons in the > helpbrowser. Hmmm... Looks like we need a couple more beta releases before 1.2. ;-) But I am wondering... What's the point in maintaining a Gimp-specific help browser? I routinely compile the Gimp on several machines (shared or private, running Solaris or Linux, and located in different countries ;-)) and the most common configurations are: * Basic system or KDE system that has Glib, GTK+ and some other libraries but no GtkXMHTML library. On these systems, the help browser is not built so everybody uses Netscape for the help pages. * Gnome system (using HelixGnome or the version of Gnome supplied with the Linux distro) that has many packages installed, including GtkXMHTML but also the Gnome help browser. I have never seen a system that had GtkXMHTML installed and did not also have the Gnome help browser. Wouldn't it be easier to use it if it is availble, and to stop maintaining the Gimp-specific help browser? There could be a compile-time option (or install option) that installs the appropriate version of the help files depending on the help browser used (regular HTML browser like Netscape, or Gnome help browser). -Raphael
Re: GIMP help docs
On 6 Nov, Sven Neumann wrote: > If you want me to change the helpbrowser, I need a detailed list of > the changes that are necessary. just the changes we talked about: Removal of the HTML navigation bar and using the supplied links in this bars for the buttons in the helpbrowser. -- Servus, Daniel
Re: GIMP help docs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > This is now the case: The help is completely converted now and we found > a way to compile it very nicely. We just need to integrate it now and get > Sven to add some of the promised new and necessary features to the helpbrowser. If you want me to change the helpbrowser, I need a detailed list of the changes that are necessary. Salut, Sven
Re: GIMP help docs
Hi Garry, thank you for the hint. bex already told me where to look. --Peter "Garry R. Osgood" wrote: > > Peter Kirchgessner wrote: > > > Hi bex, > > > > where is to-do.txt ? > > > > --Peter > > > > > > This probably has been answered privately, but I'll take the > liberty of answering it publicly. > > Given the nearness of 1.2 release, the Gimp Help Team (bex, Piers Cornwell, Daniel >Eggers > apologies if I missed the other contributors) started > a separate gimp-help project last July, and not integrate with > the main tree until help stuff is reasonably sane, complete, and stable. > > % cvs co gimp-help > > See gimp-help/help/C/to-do.txt. > > Be good, be well > > Garry -- Peter Kirchgessner http://www.kirchgessner.net mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GIMP help docs
On 4 Nov, Garry R. Osgood wrote: > Given the nearness of 1.2 release, the Gimp Help Team (bex, Piers > Cornwell, Daniel Eggers apologies if I missed the other contributors) > started a separate gimp-help project last July, and not integrate with > the main tree until help stuff is reasonably sane, complete, and > stable. This is now the case: The help is completely converted now and we found a way to compile it very nicely. We just need to integrate it now and get Sven to add some of the promised new and necessary features to the helpbrowser. -- Servus, Daniel
Re: GIMP help docs
Peter Kirchgessner wrote: > Hi bex, > > where is to-do.txt ? > > --Peter > > This probably has been answered privately, but I'll take the liberty of answering it publicly. Given the nearness of 1.2 release, the Gimp Help Team (bex, Piers Cornwell, Daniel Eggers apologies if I missed the other contributors) started a separate gimp-help project last July, and not integrate with the main tree until help stuff is reasonably sane, complete, and stable. % cvs co gimp-help See gimp-help/help/C/to-do.txt. Be good, be well Garry
Re: GIMP help docs
Hi bex, where is to-do.txt ? --Peter "Rebecca J. Walter" wrote: > > bex here. I'm all done proofing all the files in the CVS. So get out > there and write some more!! I think there are a ton of holes yet > needing work. Also please check the to-do.txt file which lists holes in > the files already in there. > So it isn't MY fault anymore if 1.2 is delayed! > bex -- Peter Kirchgessner http://www.kirchgessner.net mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
