Re: Which Save filters should be enabled?

1999-10-20 Thread Seth Burgess

My $0.02,

Let the user select what they want immediately.  Anything else is merely
annoying and doesn't add significant value.  So my vote is for anything
with export to say it can do anything.

Seth

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Nick Lamb wrote:

> 
> The Export functionality slowly creeping into CVS Gimp is really nice,
> but it leaves me with a dilemma somewhat related to my last set of
> changes (ie fixing Save As... list of save formats)
> 
> Should plug-ins which have working Export declare themselves capable of
> all image formats for the purposes of the Save As... dialog, or is better
> to show only the ones which would hopefully not need Export for the
> current image type?
> 
> I would like to tidy up the plug-in entries for this sort of data, but
> I want an idea of how others feel about this before I make wholesale
> changes. Changes must be made in any case (the settings for some plug-ins
> are presently quite wrong).
> 
> FWIW My opinion is that we could have a half-way house, where formats
> are enabled [*] if they would be "visually lossless" after Export...
> 
> So JPEG would claim RGB, GRAY and INDEXED, PNG would claim all formats,
> GIF would claim GRAY* and INDEXED*, etc. etc.
> 
> * Just like now, you would still be able to choose ANY format by typing
> the correct suffix when entering the filename. This enable/disable
> mechanism affects only the listbox.
> 
> Nick.
> 



Re: Which Save filters should be enabled?

1999-10-20 Thread Sven Neumann

> 
> The Export functionality slowly creeping into CVS Gimp is really nice,
> but it leaves me with a dilemma somewhat related to my last set of
> changes (ie fixing Save As... list of save formats)
> 
> Should plug-ins which have working Export declare themselves capable of
> all image formats for the purposes of the Save As... dialog, or is better
> to show only the ones which would hopefully not need Export for the
> current image type?
> 
> I would like to tidy up the plug-in entries for this sort of data, but
> I want an idea of how others feel about this before I make wholesale
> changes. Changes must be made in any case (the settings for some plug-ins
> are presently quite wrong).
>
 
I'm sure I have missed a bunch of plug-ins but I tried to fix the registered 
imagetypes of all file plug-ins when working on the export functionaility. My 
approach was to enable only the image types that the plug-in han handle 
itself without conversion.
 
This approach is not really consistent since the registered image-type 
doesn't make a difference between layered images and those that only have an 
alpha channel. My idea was that the listbox should reflect the capabilities 
of the file-formats. I must admit that when saving I always specify the file 
format by extension and I never use the listbox for anything else then to 
check if the desired fileformat matches.

> FWIW My opinion is that we could have a half-way house, where formats
> are enabled [*] if they would be "visually lossless" after Export...
> 
> So JPEG would claim RGB, GRAY and INDEXED, PNG would claim all formats,
> GIF would claim GRAY* and INDEXED*, etc. etc.

Might be the right way of doing it and certainly makes more sense then my 
solution. Anyway, I'm all for someone else to check through the save plug-ins 
once again, so please go for it...


Salut, Sven




Re: Which Save filters should be enabled?

1999-10-20 Thread Nils Philippsen

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Nick Lamb wrote:

> I would like to tidy up the plug-in entries for this sort of data, but
> I want an idea of how others feel about this before I make wholesale
> changes. Changes must be made in any case (the settings for some plug-ins
> are presently quite wrong).
> 
> FWIW My opinion is that we could have a half-way house, where formats
> are enabled [*] if they would be "visually lossless" after Export...

IMHO don't disable the ones "visually lossy" (how ever you want to define
that), but mark the good ones (highlight them, or put a checkmark besides
the entry) or the bad ones (put them in round braces). Disabling something
means that it cannot be chosen, the "choose those via the extension in the
text entry" approach is far from intuitive.

> So JPEG would claim RGB, GRAY and INDEXED, PNG would claim all formats,
> GIF would claim GRAY* and INDEXED*, etc. etc.
> 
> * Just like now, you would still be able to choose ANY format by typing
> the correct suffix when entering the filename. This enable/disable
> mechanism affects only the listbox.

Nils
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Which Save filters should be enabled?

1999-10-19 Thread Nick Lamb


The Export functionality slowly creeping into CVS Gimp is really nice,
but it leaves me with a dilemma somewhat related to my last set of
changes (ie fixing Save As... list of save formats)

Should plug-ins which have working Export declare themselves capable of
all image formats for the purposes of the Save As... dialog, or is better
to show only the ones which would hopefully not need Export for the
current image type?

I would like to tidy up the plug-in entries for this sort of data, but
I want an idea of how others feel about this before I make wholesale
changes. Changes must be made in any case (the settings for some plug-ins
are presently quite wrong).

FWIW My opinion is that we could have a half-way house, where formats
are enabled [*] if they would be "visually lossless" after Export...

So JPEG would claim RGB, GRAY and INDEXED, PNG would claim all formats,
GIF would claim GRAY* and INDEXED*, etc. etc.

* Just like now, you would still be able to choose ANY format by typing
the correct suffix when entering the filename. This enable/disable
mechanism affects only the listbox.

Nick.