Re: [Gimp-docs] building documentation?
2011/3/26 Ulf-D. Ehlert ud...@web.de I wonder if we won't get a copyright problem if the images are replaced... And even if not, shouldn't we show respect for the original author? Obviously not - the entire thing is under the GNU Free documentation License. The original images were taken from Astronomy picture of the Day, and checking the About page, I see they were not released under any kind of free license; some of them may be copyrighted. If anything, replacing the images will make the doc more free. As for my own pictures, I figure if I add them to the documentation they fall under the GNU FDL. Anther reason for taking the time to replace all of them was that I wanted all the screenshots to have a similar theme (clearlooks, which I believe is the Gnome 2.x default) and I had to replace at least some because the interface has changed. As for respect, I have all respect to Carol Spears who invested her time and effort to write the original tutorials, and I kept the credit in the introduction. But while it is natural for tutorials on personal website to maintain a casual tone and have tangential interests such as astronomy feature in the tutorials, I believe official documentation should be more professional. These are, after all, quick tutorials for those who don't want to read the entire manual to get some small task done; I tried to make it as short and to the point as possible. ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] building documentation?
Owen (Thursday, 24. March 2011) On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:54:08 +0200 Michael Grosberg grosberg.mich...@gmail.com wrote: [...] 1. There are two folders, both with XML files: XML and SRC. I understand XML is the one files are built from, and SRC is the one GIT uses to fetch files. But how do the two interact? do I copy files manually or is there some tool or script to update one or the other? In other words what is the work process here? I am pretty sure this is all controlled by the Makefile. have a sqizz if you are happy reading that stuff Yes, English is a special case (no po/pot files), the files are just copied when you type e.g. 'make html-en' or 'make xml-en'. 2. UI screenshots: Do you have a preference for the theme used in the screenshots? The wiki says screenshots should use the default theme but is it the Gnome's or Ubuntu's default theme I should be using? Gnome's default is Clearlooks, right? I am pretty sure what is meant here is that the Default is that set out in the preferences under themes, .../share/gimp/2.0/themes/Default I think you are right. But IMO it's much more important which OS and (under Linux) which desktop manager is used. IMHO we should use distribution-independent (default) themes - e.g. Gnome's default theme rather than Ubuntu's. 3. I intend to replace the astronomy images used in the quickies with images more representative of something a normal user would use, everyday objects such as cars, animals, plants, tourist attractions and if I find the right subjects, people. These are good looking images I took myself, but I want to know if I need to do anything rights-wise, you know, do I need to explicitly release them under the GPL or CC or what have you, and if I do, how do I do it. Too hard, Ulf or Roman may help here. I wonder if we won't get a copyright problem if the images are replaced... And even if not, shouldn't we show respect for the original author? Ulf -- Daß Götter stets nur in Menschengestalt kommen, hat noch keinen Gläubigen nachdenklich gemacht. -- Karlheinz Deschner signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] building documentation?
2011/3/24 Owen rc...@pcug.org.au Could I suggest that you run autogen.sh again, and read the last 20 or so lines. Just see what programs weren't found and install them. Now if you have the style sheets on your computer, it shouldn't have to go to the net to get them. Install all the stylesheets you can find (I think you were using Ubuntu so just search synaptic for stylesheets ) Owen Thanks! It's working now. And with a launcher to a small script that generates a draft of a single file, I can preview with the click of a button, like God intended :) I see you've already changed the wiki, so add the following: docbook-xsl (this is the one with the stylesheets) docbook-utils (solved a number of dependencies) There might be more packages necessary; I added a bunch of other packages, don't remember which, I just ticked anything that seemed like it was related to docbook. Also, I still get one line of missing dependencies: checking for dot... no I couldn't find something called dot in synaptic and it seems to be working without it anyway. Now, some more questions: 1. There are two folders, both with XML files: XML and SRC. I understand XML is the one files are built from, and SRC is the one GIT uses to fetch files. But how do the two interact? do I copy files manually or is there some tool or script to update one or the other? In other words what is the work process here? 2. UI screenshots: Do you have a preference for the theme used in the screenshots? The wiki says screenshots should use the default theme but is it the Gnome's or Ubuntu's default theme I should be using? Gnome's default is Clearlooks, right? 3. I intend to replace the astronomy images used in the quickies with images more representative of something a normal user would use, everyday objects such as cars, animals, plants, tourist attractions and if I find the right subjects, people. These are good looking images I took myself, but I want to know if I need to do anything rights-wise, you know, do I need to explicitly release them under the GPL or CC or what have you, and if I do, how do I do it. 4. it's a long shot, but does anyone here use Notepad++ and has the correct HTMLtidy settings file to correctly reflow and indent docbook XML? ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] building documentation?
Michael Grosberg (Thursday, 24. March 2011) [...] *** Making html for en ... I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/xhtml/chunk.xsl warning: failed to load external entity You have to install the DocBook stylesheets (package name probably docbook-xsl or docbook-xsl-stylesheets; source: http://sourceforge.net/projects/docbook/). Then you'll have a local copy of .../xhtml/chunk.xsl and xsltproc should use this version. Bye, Ulf -- Keiner schreibt, daß er nichts zu sagen hat; doch die meisten, die schreiben, sagen nichts als das. -- Karlheinz Deschner signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] building documentation?
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:54:08 +0200 Michael Grosberg grosberg.mich...@gmail.com wrote: I am totally out of my depth here, but here are some ramblings Now, some more questions: 1. There are two folders, both with XML files: XML and SRC. I understand XML is the one files are built from, and SRC is the one GIT uses to fetch files. But how do the two interact? do I copy files manually or is there some tool or script to update one or the other? In other words what is the work process here? I am pretty sure this is all controlled by the Makefile. have a sqizz if you are happy reading that stuff 2. UI screenshots: Do you have a preference for the theme used in the screenshots? The wiki says screenshots should use the default theme but is it the Gnome's or Ubuntu's default theme I should be using? Gnome's default is Clearlooks, right? I am pretty sure what is meant here is that the Default is that set out in the preferences under themes, .../share/gimp/2.0/themes/Default 3. I intend to replace the astronomy images used in the quickies with images more representative of something a normal user would use, everyday objects such as cars, animals, plants, tourist attractions and if I find the right subjects, people. These are good looking images I took myself, but I want to know if I need to do anything rights-wise, you know, do I need to explicitly release them under the GPL or CC or what have you, and if I do, how do I do it. Too hard, Ulf or Roman may help here. 4. it's a long shot, but does anyone here use Notepad++ and has the correct HTMLtidy settings file to correctly reflow and indent docbook XML? Don't know Notepad++, but there is a linux program tidy which does a fairly good job once you psyche it out. Owen ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
