[Gimp-user] Font loading problem

2004-08-09 Thread Hom Nath Gharti
Dear all,
I have just installed GIMP latest version on windows xp version 2002.
When I try to
start GIMP I get the error message during loading fonts:

GLib-ERROR **: gemem.c:140 failed to allocate 2147483649 bytes
aborting

I checked FAQ but could not find the answer. Unfortunately I could not
get any reply any windows user group.

I would be grateful for any suggestions.

Regards
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[Gimp-user] Plugin Install Challenge (Debian Linux kernel 2.6.6, KDE 3.2)

2004-08-09 Thread anlace
Greetings,

I am attempting to use gimptool-2.0 to install a plugin called Multitile (from 
the Gimp Plugin Registry) and I'm running into trouble.  I've got a feeling 
that I need to change the gimptool-2.0 command to add, or change, prefix or 
exec-prefix to gcc instead of i386-linux-gcc.  Is this correct?  Exactly how 
do I do this?  Below is the error when install was attempted.

Thanks for any help,
Gail

gimptool-2.0 --install Multitile.c
/usr/bin/install -c -d /root/.gimp-2.0/plug-ins i386-linux-gcc -Wall -g -O2 
-I/usr/include/gimp-2.0 -DXTHREADS -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 
-I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -o /root/.gimp-2.0/plug-ins/Multitile Multitile.c 
-L/usr/lib -lgimpui-2.0 -lgimpwidgets-2.0 -lgimp-2.0 -lgimpcolor-2.0 
-lgimpmath-2.0 -lgimpbase-2.0 -Wl,--export-dynamic -lgtk-x11-2.0 
-lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangoxft-1.0 -lpangox-1.0 
-lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0
/usr/bin/gimptool-2.0: line 325: exec: i386-linux-gcc: not found
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[Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.0 User Manual -- developer snapshot

2004-08-09 Thread Roman Joost
Hi all, 

a new snapshot of the newly written GIMP 2.0 User Manual is available
from: 

ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/help/testing/gimp-help-2-0.4.tar.gz

and includes major improvements for the four current available
languages, which are: English, French, Swedish and German.

This developer snapshot is basically for soliciting new contributors, who
will assist us in writing and correcting errors. Check out the 
project page on the GIMP Wiki at:

http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/GimpDocs

The Manual itself is written in XML and Docbook. For new doc-writers,
knowledge of XML and Docbook is helpful, but not required. We're also
looking for proof readers. A mostly up-to-date CVS version of the manual can
be found at:

http://docs.gimp.org/

Thanks to all who made this snapshot possible.

Happy writing and testing,
-- 
Roman Joost
www: http://www.romanofski.de
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Re: [Gimp-user] So it's a layer border - not a crop frame

2004-08-09 Thread David Neary
Hi Carol,

Carol Spears wrote:
 does anyone know if photoshop has a tooltip explaining the reason they
 need the same size layer everywhere?

Actually, photoshop just keeps layers the size they need to be to
hold their contents. If you draw over the edge of a layer, it
will grow to accommodate what you draw. I'm not sure, however, if
it shrinks the layer when you erase things.

There is even a bug open against the GIMP for this functionality,
which would be quite nice. It would certainly lower the learning
curve for beginners. Why is nothing happenning when I draw?
must be one of the most common questions from a beginner who just
happened to create a new layer.

 one thing that i do not understand is the need for floating layers.  i
 dont think that this term is being used properly here.  is there any
 reason that there needs to be the extra step to make pasting directly to
 an existing layer easier?

I don't think so. I believe there is (or was) a bug about that
too. IMHO, when you paste, you should paste above the active
layer, into a new layer, and be done with it. People can then
move the layer  merge down if they really want to, but as you
say, once people discover layers they rarely anchor to the
original layer directly.

Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: [Gimp-user] So it's a layer border - not a crop frame

2004-08-09 Thread John Dorfman
  one thing that i do not understand is the need for floating layers.  i
  dont think that this term is being used properly here.  is there any
  reason that there needs to be the extra step to make pasting directly to
  an existing layer easier?
 
 I don't think so. I believe there is (or was) a bug about that
 too. IMHO, when you paste, you should paste above the active
 layer, into a new layer, and be done with it. People can then
 move the layer  merge down if they really want to, but as you
 say, once people discover layers they rarely anchor to the
 original layer directly.
 

Hi,

I'm new here and probably won't post often, but I think I have an
answer to the origin of the floating layers.  I was recently looking
though the GIMP 1.3 manual.  And if I remember correctly, it said
something like this.  There was a time in GIMP or some software that
inspired GIMP where there were not layers.  Thus for pasting, floating
layers were born to crop and move, I believe, the pasted portion to
the appropriate dimensions before anchoring.  Hope this was what you
were looking for!

-John
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[Gimp-user] Re: So it's a layer border - not a crop frame

2004-08-09 Thread Justin Gombos
* Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-08-08 07:23]:
  
 and what does this get you?  you only need to do this if you need
 the extra space on the layer.

Unfortunately I discovered the float layer option _before_ I
discovered the move tool, so I was trying to float everything that I
needed to move.  Combined with not knowing about the layer boundary, it
was a disaster.

Now that I've come upon the move command, I actually prefer to have
conservative layer borders and use the move tool.  I have abandoned
the float tool, but that's not to say that I won't find a use for it
sometime.

 i suggest that you want to use Photoshop; a not as complex graphics
 app that has been built for people who cannot understand (or hope to
 learn to understand) different sizes of layers.

Yes, photoshop from what I understand is much better for users first
encountering this type of tool, because it requires very little
understanding.  They can accomplish layer manipulation w/out needing
to study some of the esoteric details.

Gimp obviously requires people to grasp this foreign concept.  This
does not mean they cannot understand, as you put it, but that they
will not gain an adequate understanding of this from the gui
interface.  Until the GUI accommodates, this understanding is acquired
via explanation.

 nothing that a little experience would fix.  the gimp is not
 photoshop so it is a mistake to approach using it as if it is.

As far as I'm concerned, Gimp is Photoshop, simply because I'm not
doing anything complex enough to go beyond the basic functionality
that's offered in both packages.  Furthermore, I would hope to see
Gimp get to a point where it can replace Photoshop.  As it is now, it
seems Photoshop is a superset of Gimp.

 one thing that i do not understand is the need for floating layers.
 i dont think that this term is being used properly here.  is there
 any reason that there needs to be the extra step to make pasting
 directly to an existing layer easier?  it is so rare that i paste
 anything to an existing layer.  it makes more sense to me to make
 the extra step for those rare occasions that you do paste right to
 an existing layer.

I can see how floating a layer could be useful in some rare instances,
but now that I've switched to moving layers as opposed to objects on
layers, I could also live without the floating capability.

If a majority of users agree that the floating capability is not very
useful, maybe a good approach would be to remove it from the standard
builds, and require users to proactively compile that option in if
they want it.
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[Gimp-user] Moving objects strictly on the X or Y axis

2004-08-09 Thread Justin Gombos
How do I restrict movement to be either horizontal or vertical?  

I tried holding shift, control, and alt, and no luck.
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Re: [Gimp-user] So it's a layer border - not a crop frame

2004-08-09 Thread Carol Spears
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 09:06:15PM -0500, John Dorfman wrote:
 
 I'm new here and probably won't post often, but I think I have an
 answer to the origin of the floating layers.  I was recently looking
 though the GIMP 1.3 manual.  And if I remember correctly, it said
 something like this.  There was a time in GIMP or some software that
 inspired GIMP where there were not layers.  Thus for pasting, floating
 layers were born to crop and move, I believe, the pasted portion to
 the appropriate dimensions before anchoring.  Hope this was what you
 were looking for!
 
this is exactly what we needed.

it is a historical thing, not a useful one -- this floating layer
business.  

i am going to forward this to the developer list with the suggestion
that we drop the whole thing.

thanks for the research.

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: So it's a layer border - not a crop frame

2004-08-09 Thread Carol Spears
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 09:01:20PM -0600, Justin Gombos wrote:
 * Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-08-08 07:23]:
   
 Unfortunately I discovered the float layer option _before_ I
 discovered the move tool, so I was trying to float everything that I
 needed to move.  Combined with not knowing about the layer boundary, it
 was a disaster.
 
yeah, sorry it is there at all.

 Now that I've come upon the move command, I actually prefer to have
 conservative layer borders and use the move tool.  I have abandoned
 the float tool, but that's not to say that I won't find a use for it
 sometime.
 
unless you have disc space issues, saving an xcf with all of your layers
in tact is a good thing, especially when going back to edit and such.

  i suggest that you want to use Photoshop; a not as complex graphics
  app that has been built for people who cannot understand (or hope to
  learn to understand) different sizes of layers.
 
 Yes, photoshop from what I understand is much better for users first
 encountering this type of tool, because it requires very little
 understanding.  They can accomplish layer manipulation w/out needing
 to study some of the esoteric details.
 
 Gimp obviously requires people to grasp this foreign concept.  This
 does not mean they cannot understand, as you put it, but that they
 will not gain an adequate understanding of this from the gui
 interface.  Until the GUI accommodates, this understanding is acquired
 via explanation.
 
the gimp is more like real life i think.  the layers would be like a
collage going together.

if you start with gimp, it is just as difficult to go to photoshop to do
things as it is for you right now to go the other way.  at least it
is/was for me.

  nothing that a little experience would fix.  the gimp is not
  photoshop so it is a mistake to approach using it as if it is.
 
 As far as I'm concerned, Gimp is Photoshop, simply because I'm not
 doing anything complex enough to go beyond the basic functionality
 that's offered in both packages.  Furthermore, I would hope to see
 Gimp get to a point where it can replace Photoshop.  As it is now, it
 seems Photoshop is a superset of Gimp.
 
well we get told both all the time.  just like photoshop, not as good as
photoshop.  photoshop does this and that better.  crap.  gimp isnt
photoshop.  i know gimp runs on much smaller and older computers than
photoshop and they both render graphic images.

carol

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