Re: [Gimp-user] Save dialog: can I get some sort of history?
Hi, Mikhail Ramendik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I use the Gimp to take files from one directory (raw photos), process them, and save them into another directory (photos for sending/publishing/printing/etc). Each time I save a photo, I have to navigate to the saving directory manually... Is it possible to somehow have the Save dialog store this directory iin some form of history, so I could easily select it? There's the bookmarks pane on the left. You can add your directory there for quick access. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Save dialog: can I get some sort of history?
On Sun, 08 May 2005 13:20:41 +0200 Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to somehow have the Save dialog store this directory iin some form of history, so I could easily select it? There's the bookmarks pane on the left. You can add your directory there for quick access. I am probably missing something. Where is this bookmark pane? If I do File-Save as I get a dialogue box which allows me to save in Home Desktop Filesystem Mail? or the directory where the image came from The only way I can get to another directory is to navigate there, and navigate there every time. Owen ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails
Hi, David Marrs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A message in the status bar makes sense to me. Huh? The application is supposed to tell you all the time that your selection is toggled off? There's only one statusbar and it should be used for useful things. Alternatively, rather than use the status bar, have a toolbar in the canvas window that includes this along with some other common and useful options. See my other reply for an example. I suggested a toolbar once before on this list and it's something I keep coming back to in my own mind as a possible way of solving a number of the niggles I'm having. Having all possible toggles visible in a toolbar in the image window be a major waste of screen estate. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 02:46:48PM +0100, David Marrs wrote: Hmm, I can't imagine when I did this, but I suppose I must have clicked on one of the other buttons at some point. It would be nice if there was a toolbar in the canvas window itself with the main tool options repeated there. That would make it easier to tell at a glance what tool and option is selected. I know this can already be worked out from the cursor icon, but those who are new to GIMP probably won't understand what all the symbols mean and might not think to look in the toolkit window. with the default installation of TheGIMP, this information is clear on several different operating systems and ways of working. it would be better and easier to insist that people work with the default gimp set up before making suggestions about where to put the information. thanks, carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails
Sven Neumann wrote: Having all possible toggles visible in a toolbar in the image window be a major waste of screen estate. Sven Not being able to maximse the image window to full screen is a major waste of screen estate. All I'm talking about is sacrificing 20 pixels' worth of height. If you don't want it there then switch it off. Besides, I'm not talking about *all* the possible toggles, just the useful and important ones. I started working on this yesterday. When I've finished I'll put together a presentation for the list to consider. Btw, does this list allow attachments. I tried sending this earlier with a screenshot of what I've got so far attached, but without success. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 04/05/2005 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Set default resize method
On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 01:07:01AM +0400, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: Hello, I would like to set the default resize method to cubic rather than linear; I want the best quality and have enough CPU horsepower, so I need cubic, right? I'm tired of switching the setting every time. Is there a way to change the default? File --Preferences i could be more specific than that but i already did that on my web site. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Newbie having trouble with layers, text and otherwise
John's Mac wrote: [...] Now, to the point: [...] OK, so I have tried using resize canvas. That added some space at the bottom. Here's what I'm seeing now: My central image has white space on three sides as a result of previous layer resizing. The layer containing the central image has a yellow and black dotted line around it--that's the layer boundary. On the bottom, the image touches the layer boundary, and below this layer boundary there is a checkerboard pattern. That checkerboard is the result of the canvas resize you recommended. I suspect that the image might be extending into new canvas space, but I can't see it. Is that checkerboard pattern a background coloring that I should change, or is it the default look of an empty canvas space? Is the bottom of the image hiding somewhere in that checkerboard? Where to go from here... Hi John, The checkerboard pattern is a visual representation (cue?) of the ultimate background. Think of the layer structures in terms of transparent plastic slides like they use when making anime or special effects in movies. When you see the checkerboard, it means this area of the image is transparent. If you want to have a white background for your postcard, you can add a new layer of white colour. There exists also a function in gimp that transform the layered structure of the image (i.e. the many layers) into one single opaque layer: it is called Flatten in Gimp's jargon (image or layer menu, I do not remember). However, if you are using a printer, I think you should not need to add the white background. I guess printers assume the paper sheets are white and transparent = white = no ink for printers. Sincerely, Olivier ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Set default resize method
Hi, Mikhail Ramendik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to set the default resize method to cubic rather than linear; I want the best quality and have enough CPU horsepower, so I need cubic, right? I'm tired of switching the setting every time. Is there a way to change the default? Go to the Preferences dialog and change the default to Cubic ?! Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Layer Style python plugin..
Hi, Rene Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm surprised nobody has hacked on that before. After all, it's all there: Parasites that gets saved with the image/layer, a python module that can update the editor-view live, a complete scripting language with gtk bindings. I spend a handful of hours trying to make a proof-of-concept. See what you think.. http://www.artcamilla.dk/vaultage/cornucopia/gimp-plugins/layer-style.py This has been done before (and perhaps even slightly more elegantly): http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/1872584/ Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Disadvantage of GIMP when compared to Photoshop
Alan Horkan horkana at maths.tcd.ie writes: I'll try and keep this factual and give you information to work with. Alan, Thanks a lot of your information! I've forwarded to my colleague for reference. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] when even free advertising fails
Kalle Ounapuu wrote: The bug-tracker serves it's purpose, but you can't expect everyone to be reading it over before making any comment about GIMP. I agree. People use Gimp (or try to) and have a problem or criticism and post their feedback here instead of filing bug/enhancement reports or looking to see what is already documented in Bugzilla, etc. Maybe there are GIMP users who would love everyone to drop Photoshop (or whatever) and use GIMP. You know, I'm not sure this is really the case. At least not based on discussion I've seen on this mailing list. I think a lot of frustration stems from people slamming Gimp for simply not looking, feeling, behaving, or tasting exactly like PhotoShop. It's almost like if it's not PhotoShop, it's crap. The focus tends to be on what PhotoShop does that Gimp doesn't do and almost no mention is made of the things Gimp can do that PhotoShop can't. If so, they will have to deal with more of this. I think constructive criticism on Gimp's UI, usability, features or missing features is what is desired much more than the Gimp sucks cuz it can't do this obscure thing PhotoShop can kinds of comments. Not everyone can spend the time to search something out, or in fact they don't care, they would rather voice it out right away. Yep, you're right on the money here. I think the bulk of the new Gimp users don't even think to look at Bugzilla or maybe even the mailing list archives before posting their comments since they are frustrated or focused on what they are trying to do with Gimp and simply post questions or comments to get immediate help. I know I tend to do the same from time to time but I try to search the mailing list archives before posting a question to see if it has already been discussed. Peace... Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sven Neumann Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 2:49 PM To: Gezim Hoxha Cc: gimp user Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] when even free advertising fails Hi, Gezim Hoxha [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 07:04 -0700, Carol Spears wrote: a forum where they can constantly bombard and belittle TheGIMP and are free to do so and the best they can pull out of their over-extended reasoning is this layers effect stuff. I'm not sure who they are, but if you're referring to people in this list that are not afraid to admit gimp's weaknesses, these people have every right to point them out. You can't fix a problem if you don't even accept it. Lack of layer effects is not a problem? You are perfectly right that it is important to point out weak spots. The discussions that have been happening on this list lately have however not pointed out a singleq weak spots that wouldn't have been well-known already. Bringing up stuff that is already in the bug-tracker and on the roadmap for years doesn't really help anyone. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Layer Style python plugin..
LOL! Yes, I see that it has :-] It does look good too, very much indeed. Thanks for pointing it out, Sven, saved me of quite a bunch of working hours. Sorry for the many posts (and thanks those who helped). How can you work with a 24 hour timedelay? Oh well.. See ya all -centipede This has been done before (and perhaps even slightly more elegantly): http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/1872584/ Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Tricks and tutorials (A FWD from Rene)
Hi, Rikard Johnels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I use the same thread as before to send a forward from Rene; Sorry, but may I ask why? The posts from Rene seem to have shown up on this list just fine. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Disadvantage of GIMP when compared to Photoshop
Olivier Ripoll durocortorum73-gmane at yahoo.fr writes: I wasn't aware of this grouping ability. Can you please tell me how I would group a bunch of layers? I think he means you can group them with respect to move and transform tools, using the chain or link icon between the eye icon and the layer thumbnail in the layers window. My colleague says that this link function is not as good as the grouping in Photoshop because at any time there can be only one chain exists in Gimp. It means we can't have multiple groups. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Disadvantage of GIMP when compared to Photoshop
Carol Spears carol at gimp.org writes: -- Compare to PhotoShop, managing the layers is not that easy. You can define layers to groups in Photoshop. You can even target an action to a group. No group idea in GIMP. it is interesting that photoshop is considered to have better layers control than gimp. if you use gimp more you will see who has the real control of them. Let's take an example. If in an image there are there is a toolbar at the top of it and some icons in a panel at the bottom. In Photoshop, one would have one layer for each tool in the toolbar and then group them to form a toolbar. Similarly, one would have one layer for each icon and then group them to form the panel. The benefit is, one can say move the whole toolbar or the panel easily. In Gimp, it seems that one have to link the layers for the toolbar in order to move it and then unlink them all and then link the layers for the panel. Is this quite troublesome? There is a better way? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Save dialog: can I get some sort of history?
On Saturday 07 May 2005 06:54, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: (reposting as first letter apparently got lost) Hello, I use the Gimp to take files from one directory (raw photos), process them, and save them into another directory (photos for sending/publishing/printing/etc). Each time I save a photo, I have to navigate to the saving directory manually... Is it possible to somehow have the Save dialog store this directory iin some form of history, so I could easily select it? Hi, In gimp 2.2 you can bookmark both directorys (clicking on the + button, at botton left), and navigate from one to the other with two clicks. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] when even free advertising fails
It seems that some Photoshop users have this notion that GIMP was meant to be the David to Adobe's Goliath. Maybe it's just me, but I see GIMP as developing into its own application rather than being a mere Photoshop clone. I think that unfortunately, some people who slam GIMP are of the hand it to me on a silver platter mentality rather than simply not knowing how to use GIMP. Some don't want to tackle any kind of significant learning curve ... some do but are impatient. I've used GIMP for a long while now, and will stand by it -- especially since it's such a well-developed open-source application. Yes, there is room for improvement, and I believe it'll come, but if the basis of the GIMP-slammer's rant is that it isn't like Photoshop, it won't matter how good GIMP gets. L8rz! - Del'riaan On Sun, 08 May 2005 08:12:15 -0700, Tom Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalle Ounapuu wrote: The bug-tracker serves it's purpose, but you can't expect everyone to be reading it over before making any comment about GIMP. I agree. People use Gimp (or try to) and have a problem or criticism and post their feedback here instead of filing bug/enhancement reports or looking to see what is already documented in Bugzilla, etc. Maybe there are GIMP users who would love everyone to drop Photoshop (or whatever) and use GIMP. You know, I'm not sure this is really the case. At least not based on discussion I've seen on this mailing list. I think a lot of frustration stems from people slamming Gimp for simply not looking, feeling, behaving, or tasting exactly like PhotoShop. It's almost like if it's not PhotoShop, it's crap. The focus tends to be on what PhotoShop does that Gimp doesn't do and almost no mention is made of the things Gimp can do that PhotoShop can't. If so, they will have to deal with more of this. I think constructive criticism on Gimp's UI, usability, features or missing features is what is desired much more than the Gimp sucks cuz it can't do this obscure thing PhotoShop can kinds of comments. Not everyone can spend the time to search something out, or in fact they don't care, they would rather voice it out right away. Yep, you're right on the money here. I think the bulk of the new Gimp users don't even think to look at Bugzilla or maybe even the mailing list archives before posting their comments since they are frustrated or focused on what they are trying to do with Gimp and simply post questions or comments to get immediate help. I know I tend to do the same from time to time but I try to search the mailing list archives before posting a question to see if it has already been discussed. Peace... Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sven Neumann Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 2:49 PM To: Gezim Hoxha Cc: gimp user Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] when even free advertising fails Hi, Gezim Hoxha [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 07:04 -0700, Carol Spears wrote: a forum where they can constantly bombard and belittle TheGIMP and are free to do so and the best they can pull out of their over-extended reasoning is this layers effect stuff. I'm not sure who they are, but if you're referring to people in this list that are not afraid to admit gimp's weaknesses, these people have every right to point them out. You can't fix a problem if you don't even accept it. Lack of layer effects is not a problem? You are perfectly right that it is important to point out weak spots. The discussions that have been happening on this list lately have however not pointed out a singleq weak spots that wouldn't have been well-known already. Bringing up stuff that is already in the bug-tracker and on the roadmap for years doesn't really help anyone. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails
Carol Spears wrote: it would be better and easier to insist that people work with the default gimp set up before making suggestions about where to put the information. thanks, carol Easier for whom? the users or the developers? Since there's only one GIMP set-up anyway, I don't see how it makes a difference; any suggestion I make is going to be a direct result of the default GIMP set-up that I'm using. I'm not biased by Photoshop, PSP or anything else, I'm just acutely aware of the user interface's short comings and I'm trying to address them. Making GIMP newbies (which I'm not, btw) learn the interface until they get used to it only means that they'll get used to the GIMP's short comings, not that they'll go away. It's just the same as how Windows users put up with their interface, all the time forgetting how restrictive it is. When it's all you can see, it becomes normal. It's only after you come back to Windows after spending months away, using a different OS like Linux+Gnome, that you suddenly realise how poor Windows actually is. If Microsoft were trying to get users to migrate from GNU/Linux to Windows, they'd be out of business in weeks. So I think you unwittingly hit the nail on the head with regard to the GIMP's problem: it insists that its users conform to its way of doing things instead of being malleable so that different users with different approaches can tailor it to suit their needs. Its approach obviously works for you, which is why you're happy with it. Just try to remember that your way isn't necessarily the *right* way. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 04/05/2005 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails
David Marrs wrote: Sven Neumann wrote: Having all possible toggles visible in a toolbar in the image window be a major waste of screen estate. Sven Not being able to maximse the image window to full screen is a major waste of screen estate. View-Fullscreen (or simply F11) will maximize the image to full screen. You can also use the maximize button of the window manager to have the window maximized (with decorations, etc.) All I'm talking about is sacrificing 20 pixels' worth of height. If you don't want it there then switch it off. Besides, I'm not talking about *all* the possible toggles, just the useful and important ones. I started working on this yesterday. When I've finished I'll put together a presentation for the list to consider. That is a nice thing. Best regards, Olivier. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] configuration of a Wacom Intuos tablet
Olivier Lecarme writes: I just bought a Wacom Intuos tablet, A5 format. [ ... ] and my tablet is now recognized by Gimp (2.2), with the three devices (stylus, eraser, and mouse). However, I cannot manage to have a different behavior for these three devices. In the Devices dialog, only the Core Pointer entry seems to be active (with a triangle in front of it). In the dialog get from Toolbox - Files - Preferences - Input Devices, I don't understand what is the meaning of Axes, Keys, and all these numbers. The tutorial by Carol Spears stops just before describing this. The Gimp user manual does not describe this at all. I had exactly this problem for a long time with my Graphire 2. The wacdump program showed the kernel was reading the events properly, but somehow they weren't making it through X to gtk and GIMP. Yesterday, thanks to a very helpful person on IRC (thanks, Keir, if you're reading this) I got all the pieces working together and my Graphire works again. I wrote up the setup which eventually worked, and some tips I've picked up: http://shallowsky.com/linux/wacom.html Perhaps something there will help with your Intuos. Good luck! ...Akkana ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] modular GIMP
Hi, David Marrs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I quite like the idea of seeing the signal path laid out in a modular form. You can see the channels flowing through the layers, which layers have filters operating on them and how this affects the signal. It would certainly be useful from the point of view of understanding how an image gets processed in the GIMP. You just described the image processing graph which is the basic concept we are trying to implement with GEGL. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
