Re: [Gimp-user] Subtracting from image

2005-08-25 Thread Rikard Johnels
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 22.43, Axel Wernicke wrote:
 Am 24.08.2005 um 21:12 schrieb Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris:
  It will requiere quite some experimenting - and I know this I am
  writing must be sounding confuse. If you have three photos of the
  same place, mail me (it can be reduced resolution version) of then,
  and I might try to document all the steps in detail.
 
  If you just have two images, send then anyway ... but it may be
  harder.

 Yeees, and if it works, Joao makes short tutorial and puts it online
 - please. That is exactly the kind of stuff people need to get done
 with that tons of digital pictures we all take today :)

 Seriously, I think after we got an almost complete GIMP reference
 manual by now, we need to focus more and more to use cases like the
 one from Rikard.

  Regards,
 

I tried using a version of the technique used here:
http://www.photo.net/learn/dark_noise/
But it gave me odd results with partially see through ppl, and ghosts.
So maybe i didnt get it right.

Setup: 
* Sergels Torg Square, Stockholm, Sweden. Tripod. camera set on manual 
exposure to ensure same colorbalance, shutter, aperture etc.
* Take two shots of the same object in rapid succession. (Small timelapse)
* Swivel camera to the next segment of the panorama, with the same setting.  * 
* Shoot two pictures.
* Repeat until covered the whole pano field.

So far so good.
Next. Back tho the digital photolab and fire up gimp.
Project, to remove everything from the pictures except the stationary objects, 
leaving an empty square. (With a few sitting/standing people.)
Stitch a panorama from the resulting edited pictures.

It is apparently harder then i thought to remove the noise of moving 
objects.

/Rikard
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[Gimp-user] No JPG recognized on one host: 2.2.8

2005-08-25 Thread Rich Shepard

  This has me completely baffled. We run Slackware-10.1 on all hosts; each
had a copy of gimp-2.2.8 installed from the same package. On all but one
laptop, there is no problem opening and working with .jpg files. On this one
host, .hrz, .ico, and .jpg files are not recognized and not available in the
file type list.

  I've removed and reinstalled the application, and moved ~/.gimp-2.2/ to
another name so it is regenerated when the application is invoked. No
difference in behavior: it will not accept .jpg as a valid file type.
ImageMagick's 'display' has no problem with them.

  When I searched google for this problem I found a reference to a missing
library on freeBSD. On the host here, /usr/lib/libjpeg* are all present.

  Suggestions and solutions greatly appreciated.

TIA,

Rich

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Re: [Gimp-user] No JPG recognized on one host: 2.2.8

2005-08-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Rich Shepard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

This has me completely baffled. We run Slackware-10.1 on all
 hosts; each had a copy of gimp-2.2.8 installed from the same
 package. On all but one laptop, there is no problem opening and
 working with .jpg files. On this one host, .hrz, .ico, and .jpg
 files are not recognized and not available in the file type list.

Are the relevant plug-ins really installed and executable by the user?
Have you tried running the plug-ins directly?


Sven
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[Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Vol 35, Issue 26

2005-08-25 Thread Mark Szymanski

Rich,
I had the same problem after trying to upgrade from 2.0.2 to 2.2.8, and 
it turned out to be a  missing libexif.50.10. That fixed it for me.


Mark Szymanski

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   1. Re: Subtracting from image (Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris)
   2. Re: Subtracting from image (Axel Wernicke)
   3. Re: Subtracting from image (Rikard Johnels)
   4. No JPG recognized on one host: 2.2.8 (Rich Shepard)


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On Wednesday 24 August 2005 14:54, Rikard Johnels wrote:
  

Hi all!
I have a problem.
I have two images taken with a few seconds difference, and i want
to subtract the differences between them from one of them.
Its a crowded square, with people walking around, And i want to
keep all the stationary object, as benches etc, and remove the
things that have moved. Its a experiment to enhance pictures
taken for a panorama of populated areas.

Any pointers on where to look for a solution?




Well...for strcit  subtraction of an image - the GIMP provides layer 
modes taht do that. 

Just open both your images as different layers on teh same gimp image, 
and change the one on the layer above to subtract or  difference 
- that will do a subtraction on the RGB pixel value of each pixel.


That is not your intended final result. But from the difference 
layer mode you should get everything that is fixed in place (ground + 
benchs + billboards) in black or near black (with outlines since it 
is little likely that the images will match exactly at pixel level), 
with negative or otherwise color  distorted  sillouetes of the moving 
objects (e.g. persons + dogs + vehicles) . You can then copy this 
silloueted view with copy visible and paste it as another layer. 
Then yoiu can try different ways of getting this sillouete layer to 
the layer mask of the top image, to trying to let only the parts 
where people appear transparent. You will need to work a lot to find 
good combinations of operations to do on the layer masks (you will 
have to blur + play with curves or levels on them)


I think what you desire would be easier with three instead of two 
photos from the same place - or your sillouete layer will contain 
data of people on both photos. With three photos you have to further 
generate a second sillouete layer, and then combine both sillouetes 
to generate a suitable mask for one of your layers. 

It will requiere quite some experimenting - and I know this I am 
writing must be sounding confuse. If you have three photos of the 
same place, mail me (it can be reduced resolution version) of then, 
and I might try to document all the steps in detail.


If you just have two images, send then anyway ... but it may be 
harder.


Regards,

JS
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/Rikard
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Am 24.08.2005 um 21:12 schrieb Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris:
  

It will requiere quite some experimenting - and I know this I am
writing must be sounding confuse. If you have three photos of the
same place, mail me (it can be reduced resolution version) of then,
and I might try to document all the steps in detail.

If you just have two images, send then anyway ... but it may be
harder.



Yeees, and if it works, Joao makes short tutorial and puts it online =20
- - please. That is exactly the kind of stuff people need to get done =20=

with that tons of digital pictures we all take today :)


Re: [Gimp-user] No JPG recognized on one host: 2.2.8

2005-08-25 Thread Rich Shepard

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Mark Szymanski wrote:


I had the same problem after trying to upgrade from 2.0.2 to 2.2.8, and it
turned out to be a missing libexif.50.10. That fixed it for me.


Mark,

  Thank you, that's exactly what it was. How that library went missing on
that box is beyond my knowledge. But, that was the missing file. It did not
fix the missing .hrz or .ico filetypes, but those won't be missed at all.

Rich

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