Re: [Gimp-user] gimp-help-2-0.10 - failed install

2006-05-12 Thread Carol Spears
hi axel,
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 07:39:07AM +0200, Axel Wernicke wrote:
 
 Am 12.05.2006 um 05:58 schrieb Carol Spears:
 
 Hi Carol, Roman is still on vacation for a week or so. But why you  
 don't share your thoughts with us on the gimp-docs list?
 
good for roman!

sometimes, it is simply easier to do something than it is to talk about
it.  i was a really good team worker and it destroyed my life.  i liked
that life.

this is the way things are done with gimp stuff now, btw.  if a project
is deemed abandoned or wrongly installed, it is no big deal to take it
over and do it right.

i did not want to work this way, however, lately the volunteers we get
seem to need payment as incentive to start and complete a project.

i am sorry sorry sorry that things work this way.  it is not the world i
envisioned.

there is the need for a documentation system that can be maintained
easily.  and a system that people can use.

 
 i built these docs from a simple text file in hardly no time:
 http://www.gimp.org/docs/python/pygimp.html and editing them was
 extremely easy (not unlike writing in a wiki).
 
 I'll have a look at it
 
i would appreciate your opinions about it.  i actually could edit that
pygimp documentation without installing anything in addition to the
software itself.  i think ircd can handle the stuff that is needed to
convert it.

 
 http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/
 
 if the people in charge don't show up to do something soon, i will get
 the sgml and use one of the gimp computers to convert them myself.
 
 ugh? speak with us, please :)
 
i went to the rapha-awful school of volunteerism.

i am now watching how google messes up things that are messed up.

it is so much easier to just run this software and do the dirty little
conversion and make this stuff so that people can use it.

feel free to write me in private if you have problems with me making
this conversion.

carol

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[Gimp-user] gimp-help-2-0.10 - failed install

2006-05-11 Thread Felix Karpfen
Despite my rank-amateur-status, I downloaded the source package and
successfully completed the configure stage.

However, I crashed at Square One of make with the following message:

| /home/felixk/downloads/gimp-help-2-0.10/stylesheets/plainhtml.xsl
| line 7 element import xsl:import : unable to load
| http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/xhtml/profile-chunk.x
| sl make: *** [stamps/html.cs.stamp] Error 5

It looked to me as though this step should have been done while I am
online.

If this is the case, then is the following entry in the INSTALL file of
gimp-help-2-0.10 relevant:

| By default we do not allow the XSLT processor to attempt to download
| external resources. If you have a fast internet connection, it may be
| useful to allow xsltproc to fetch DTDs or entities over the network?: 

For the record - I do _not_ have a fast internet connection.  I use a 56k
modem and do most of my work offline.

Felix Karpfen
-- 
Felix Karpfen


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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp-help-2-0.10 - failed install

2006-05-11 Thread Carol Spears
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 07:09:28AM +1000, Felix Karpfen wrote:
 
 It looked to me as though this step should have been done while I am
 online.
 
 If this is the case, then is the following entry in the INSTALL file of
 gimp-help-2-0.10 relevant:
 
 | By default we do not allow the XSLT processor to attempt to download
 | external resources. If you have a fast internet connection, it may be
 | useful to allow xsltproc to fetch DTDs or entities over the network?: 
 
i actually have been waiting for Roman Joost to be around because my
attention has been drawn to an application which is very very (to me)
simple to use and does not need all of that extra software and
apparently the good internet connection as well.

i built these docs from a simple text file in hardly no time:
http://www.gimp.org/docs/python/pygimp.html and editing them was
extremely easy (not unlike writing in a wiki).

http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/

if the people in charge don't show up to do something soon, i will get
the sgml and use one of the gimp computers to convert them myself.

things were so much better when the gimp project was made of a bunch of
people working together.  i am very sorry that those days have gone (now
we get funding to get things done).  that being said, i will work
happily together with myself, especially since i have been provided with
some sane software and a sane format to work with

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp-help-2-0.10 - failed install

2006-05-11 Thread Axel Wernicke

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Hi,

Am 12.05.2006 um 05:58 schrieb Carol Spears:


On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 07:09:28AM +1000, Felix Karpfen wrote:


It looked to me as though this step should have been done while I am
online.

If this is the case, then is the following entry in the INSTALL  
file of

gimp-help-2-0.10 relevant:

| By default we do not allow the XSLT processor to attempt to  
download
| external resources. If you have a fast internet connection, it  
may be
| useful to allow xsltproc to fetch DTDs or entities over the  
network?:


well, could you tell us a bit more about your environment? HP-UX?  
Solaris? Win? OS X??
That might help. Indeed is it the case that we need a _working_  
docbook dtd to validate and build the manual. So, if its installed  
and working properly on your machine, no internet connection is  
needed for the build process.





i actually have been waiting for Roman Joost to be around because my
attention has been drawn to an application which is very very (to me)
simple to use and does not need all of that extra software and
apparently the good internet connection as well.


Hi Carol, Roman is still on vacation for a week or so. But why you  
don't share your thoughts with us on the gimp-docs list?




i built these docs from a simple text file in hardly no time:
http://www.gimp.org/docs/python/pygimp.html and editing them was
extremely easy (not unlike writing in a wiki).


I'll have a look at it



http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/

if the people in charge don't show up to do something soon, i will get
the sgml and use one of the gimp computers to convert them myself.


ugh? speak with us, please :)





...

carol


greetings, lexA



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