Re: [Gimp-user] optimizing image for internet using GiMP

2001-04-06 Thread Rick Rosinski

What would happen to a jpeg image if I open it up and save it at 75% quality. 
 Reopen the image and save it again at 75%?  Would there be loss to quality?  
Seems like it would.  Once I opened a picture I saved at 75% before and saved 
it at 100%.  The file size increased.  I don't understand that.  There are 
times when I want to open a jpeg just to resize the picture, and then save it 
again - but I don't want to lose any more quality - and I don't want to 
increase the file size compared to what it was before.   How do I go about 
handeling this?

Also, where can I find documentation on the web where I can lern all about 
jpeg?

Thanks in advance.

On Wednesday 04 April 2001 19:13, you wrote:
 Rupert -

 An indexed image can contain any number of colors (3, 7, 21, 86,
 . . .) up to the maximum limit of 256.

 In brief:  GIF is a simple indexed format, one byte per pixel,
 which limits the total number of colors to 256 maximum.  It will
 allow for on/off transparency; one color can be called
 transparent.  JPEG allows for millions of colors (3 bytes per
 pixel, actually, one each for Red, Green, and Blue), but its
 compression scheme is lossy, trading fine color detail for
 reduced size.  The usual rule of thumb is GIF for line art and
 pictures with large areas of a constant color, JPEG for images
 with lots of detail such as photographs.

 Nothing really beats loading an image into the Gimp and just
 playing with it.  There's always new stuff to be discovered.

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Re: [Gimp-user] optimizing image for internet using GiMP

2001-04-06 Thread Teri A. Ward

Hi Rick -
Can't answer most of your questions, but I do
have one suggestion. When dealing with existing
jpegs, or graphics that you work with in Gimp
and then convert to jpegs, save a "master" copy
(as RGB) in .xcf, Gimp's native format. This way
you preserve all of the original quality. Then if
if you have to make any additional changes, you
can go back to your "master" copy and work with it.

... of course, I use Gimp at work where I've got
enough memory to store two of everything ;-)

Teri Ward
Seattle

 
 What would happen to a jpeg image if I open it up and save it at 75% quality. 
  Reopen the image and save it again at 75%?  Would there be loss to quality?  
 Seems like it would.  Once I opened a picture I saved at 75% before and saved 
 it at 100%.  The file size increased.  I don't understand that.  There are 
 times when I want to open a jpeg just to resize the picture, and then save it 
 again - but I don't want to lose any more quality - and I don't want to 
 increase the file size compared to what it was before.   How do I go about 
 handeling this?
 
 Also, where can I find documentation on the web where I can lern all about 
 jpeg?
 
 Thanks in advance.


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Re: [Gimp-user] optimizing image for internet using GiMP

2001-04-04 Thread Rupert Heesom

On 03 Apr 2001 21:53:18 -0700, Jeff Trefftzs wrote:
 You can reduce the image size with Image-Scale Image; you can 
 reduce the number of colors with Image-Mode-Indexed, which 
 allows you to set the number of colors (up to 256, I believe), 
 specify dithering, etc.  Or, you can save the image as a jpeg, 
 where you can set the compression level and thus reduce the 
 number of pixels needed to represent the image.

Thanks for your reply, Jeff.   When changing the image to indexed, can
one set any number of colours to the image (eg 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, etc)
or does one have to stick to "computer numbers" such as 16, 32, 64, 128,
etc?

I must learn more about the the GIF and JPEG formatsthe I don't know
WHAT I'm doing with the options given me in gimp!


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