Re: [Gimp-user] Timeline for sequenced layers - a hybrid compositor
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 1:56 AM, Burnie West wrote: IMO, it would be cool somehow if layer group will handle color correction and filters as well. Sounds like a good plug-in idea - - - Only if 3rd party... In 2.10 plug-ins as we know them are either dead or struggling to survive :) Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Timeline for sequenced layers - a hybrid compositor
Hello guys, I don't know if this topic already on the feature list or not, but I think this feature, wheter it'll come as plugin or built-in are very much appreciate. Currently I'm working for personal project (as my training as well) for vfx shot. After done keying for premultiply plate in blender compositor, I found that it still need extra 'clean-up', so I use GIMP for that. I open as layers some of the sequences that already rendered as premul, then work on that. On progressing, I found obstacle which is 1. As default, Gimp unable to export all layers into separate output. But gladly there's very handy plugin for that. Just search in Gimp plugin registry with keyword 'export layers'. (SOLVED) 2. With sequence images, you'll work with a lot of layers. So the first time you open them, they'll overlap each other. The pain is there's no button for select all layers, or toggle visibility off for all layers, etc. 3. As I work for sequenced images, moving between each frames are become inevitable. This is where timeline is needed. As for now, i have to open gap filter and run playback each time if want to check all my frames. Gimp would be very advance layer based compositor. Since all fx that needed to create an awesome movie fx are available in gimp or by plugin registry such as chromatic aberration, noise filter, vector blur, lensflare, etc. I hope this post beneficial for developers or others as well. Thank you very much Gimp devs and community around the globe. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Timeline for sequenced layers - a hybrid compositor
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Aditia A. Pratama wrote: 2. With sequence images, you'll work with a lot of layers. So the first time you open them, they'll overlap each other. The pain is there's no button for select all layers, or toggle visibility off for all layers, etc. Actually you can do that. You can 'solo' visibility of a layer. Press and hold Shift, the click on the eye icon of a layer. This will make that layer the only visible one. So if you really need to disable visibility of all layers, all you will have to do after that is click eye icon for the only visibly layer. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Timeline for sequenced layers - a hybrid compositor
OMG, I just know this trick. Thanks a million for that Alexander. But I think, for some new users they still need that toggle :-D On Aug 13, 2012 3:09 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Aditia A. Pratama wrote: 2. With sequence images, you'll work with a lot of layers. So the first time you open them, they'll overlap each other. The pain is there's no button for select all layers, or toggle visibility off for all layers, etc. Actually you can do that. You can 'solo' visibility of a layer. Press and hold Shift, the click on the eye icon of a layer. This will make that layer the only visible one. So if you really need to disable visibility of all layers, all you will have to do after that is click eye icon for the only visibly layer. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Timeline for sequenced layers - a hybrid compositor
Hi Daniel, Yes, the latest open movie project by blender foundation known as mango project or Tears of Steel will about to release by the next couple of week. You can follow their progress in their official website http://mango.blender.org or http://tearsofsteel.com. Most of vfx movies nowadays always using such an fx. Like a fancy lensflare, color grading stuff, etc. Yes, I run tutorial website in http://fossgrafis.com I keep my shot update via youtube http://youtube.com/user/aditpratama1 My internet connection very limited, but I'll try my best to post my progress. No problem Daniel, it's a pleasure to get in touch with FOSS community :) On Aug 13, 2012 8:20 PM, Daniel Smith opened...@gmail.com wrote: Aditia, Very interesting. So you're saying they already use blender for movie effects? In production anywhere? Can you give an example of movies that have used such effects? Are you keeping a blog or screen shots of your process? Can we see it when you're done? Thanks a lot, and sorry for all the questions... Dan Smith Houston On 8/13/12, Aditia A. Pratama ibnu.h...@gmail.com wrote: OMG, I just know this trick. Thanks a million for that Alexander. But I think, for some new users they still need that toggle :-D On Aug 13, 2012 3:09 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Aditia A. Pratama wrote: 2. With sequence images, you'll work with a lot of layers. So the first time you open them, they'll overlap each other. The pain is there's no button for select all layers, or toggle visibility off for all layers, etc. Actually you can do that. You can 'solo' visibility of a layer. Press and hold Shift, the click on the eye icon of a layer. This will make that layer the only visible one. So if you really need to disable visibility of all layers, all you will have to do after that is click eye icon for the only visibly layer. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Timeline for sequenced layers - a hybrid compositor
Thanks so much, Aditia. That's awesome stuff. The last I was involved with such things was when I ran Lightwave on a Dec Alpha machine, way back when Star Trek Next Generation was animated by Industrial Light and Magic. What general part of the world do you live in? Just wondering. Have a great day/night, all. Dan On 8/13/12, Aditia A. Pratama ibnu.h...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Daniel, Yes, the latest open movie project by blender foundation known as mango project or Tears of Steel will about to release by the next couple of week. You can follow their progress in their official website http://mango.blender.org or http://tearsofsteel.com. Most of vfx movies nowadays always using such an fx. Like a fancy lensflare, color grading stuff, etc. Yes, I run tutorial website in http://fossgrafis.com I keep my shot update via youtube http://youtube.com/user/aditpratama1 My internet connection very limited, but I'll try my best to post my progress. No problem Daniel, it's a pleasure to get in touch with FOSS community :) On Aug 13, 2012 8:20 PM, Daniel Smith opened...@gmail.com wrote: Aditia, Very interesting. So you're saying they already use blender for movie effects? In production anywhere? Can you give an example of movies that have used such effects? Are you keeping a blog or screen shots of your process? Can we see it when you're done? Thanks a lot, and sorry for all the questions... Dan Smith Houston On 8/13/12, Aditia A. Pratama ibnu.h...@gmail.com wrote: OMG, I just know this trick. Thanks a million for that Alexander. But I think, for some new users they still need that toggle :-D On Aug 13, 2012 3:09 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Aditia A. Pratama wrote: 2. With sequence images, you'll work with a lot of layers. So the first time you open them, they'll overlap each other. The pain is there's no button for select all layers, or toggle visibility off for all layers, etc. Actually you can do that. You can 'solo' visibility of a layer. Press and hold Shift, the click on the eye icon of a layer. This will make that layer the only visible one. So if you really need to disable visibility of all layers, all you will have to do after that is click eye icon for the only visibly layer. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Timeline for sequenced layers - a hybrid compositor
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Aditia A. Pratama wrote: At that time I also looking for best vfx stuff which run under linux, I found out that there's ramenfx but I dunno the progress up until now. Ramen has a slightly frightening story. The project started as free software, but the developer failed to attract new developers and moved to a closed source strategy, while rewriting internals of the application. This didn't work all the well either. After a while his interests changed, and he stopped working on the project. Since recently he's working on Ramen 2 which seems to be a free software project again (at least, the code is available on Github), and he's rewriting things once again. IMHO, this is going to be an on-and-off activity until some kind of team gets organized. Being a one-man band is not very sustainable. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Timeline for sequenced layers - a hybrid compositor
Aditia, Indonesia. Man, the power of the internet. Wonderful. Just my two cents, you probably already know, but it looks like the Lightworks is almost ready for Ubuntu: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTEyMjE God, I remember the days of like Mac 8500 being state of the art. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Macintosh_8500 What you could do now with an i5 or i7 chip and that Lightworks. Amazing. Dan On 8/13/12, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Aditia A. Pratama wrote: At that time I also looking for best vfx stuff which run under linux, I found out that there's ramenfx but I dunno the progress up until now. Ramen has a slightly frightening story. The project started as free software, but the developer failed to attract new developers and moved to a closed source strategy, while rewriting internals of the application. This didn't work all the well either. After a while his interests changed, and he stopped working on the project. Since recently he's working on Ramen 2 which seems to be a free software project again (at least, the code is available on Github), and he's rewriting things once again. IMHO, this is going to be an on-and-off activity until some kind of team gets organized. Being a one-man band is not very sustainable. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Timeline for sequenced layers - a hybrid compositor
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:08:56 +0400 From: alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Timeline for sequenced layers - a hybrid compositor On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Aditia A. Pratama wrote: 2. With sequence images, you'll work with a lot of layers. So the first time you open them, they'll overlap each other. The pain is there's no button for select all layers, or toggle visibility off for all layers, etc. Actually you can do that. You can 'solo' visibility of a layer. Press and hold Shift, the click on the eye icon of a layer. This will make that layer the only visible one. So if you really need to disable visibility of all layers, all you will have to do after that is click eye icon for the only visibly layer. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ AFAIK there is no menu command to do that, nor is it shown in the context menu when you right-click a layer. It really is something you can't do unless you already know how. -- Stratadrake strata_ran...@hotmail.com Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Timeline for sequenced layers - a hybrid compositor
On 08/13/2012 02:05 PM, Aditia A. Pratama wrote: Thanks ofnuts for notifying us about link icon :) Just addendum, it'll be more efficient if we can apply filters or color balancing/correction to all layers. I thought at first using layer group will solve the issue, but afaik it only work for tranformation, like scaling all layers and align to center option. IMO, it would be cool somehow if layer group will handle color correction and filters as well. Sounds like a good plug-in idea - - - -- Burnie ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list