Re: [Gimp-user] how to exposing more tiff load options for scripting

2012-08-20 Thread Tim Dickson

regarding libtiff.
which version does gimp for windows use?

I will download v4.0.2 for my distro and recompile (enabling the ojpeg 
options again) and see if the upated standard libtiff programs can 
handle the files properly ( I had to specially modify libjpeg 6b to 
support the old jpeg format in libtiff, then recompiled libtiff (3.8.2) 
with that ojpeg support.


I had been confused because my distribution, even a quite old version 
(12.2.0 slackware) has libtiff 3.8.2  but the most recent version on 
www.libtiff.org is 3.61 however, I have found that www.remotesensing.org 
have a much more up-to-date version.(v4.0.2)

regards, Tim
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Re: [Gimp-user] how to exposing more tiff load options for scripting

2012-08-19 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 12:08:38 +0100, Tim Dickson wrote:

 1. I am using gimp 2.8 (windows version in this case - the version that 
 comes with slackware is somewhat older)

Note that the Windows version of GIMP ships with older version of libtiff,
because there are problems with the most recent one on Windows.

-- 
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[Gimp-user] how to exposing more tiff load options for scripting

2012-08-18 Thread Tim Dickson
I am trying to load single pages from multipage tiffs, convert them to 
monochrome (dithered), flatten the image, then save them as single 
monochrome, ccitt group4 tiffs. - all through scripts.


The multipage tiffs contain pages in grayscale and colour which were 
created using the old style (problematic) jpeg compression option.


I have tried other tools, such as libtiff (modified with a patch to 
handle the old jpeg compression), and the latest version of imagemajick. 
Unfortunately they cannot correctly convert the files, whereas gimp can, 
but only one page of the multi-page tiff at a time
(gimp crashes if I load a 5page document (as separate images) then 
convert each image to monochrome,flatten and save in one session)


the scripting function for loading tiffs
file-tiff-load
does not expose the options to load individual pages, or to select 
loading as images or as layers, which the visual file load/import does.


does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can achieve this using a 
script.?
manually is not a problem, but too time consuming for large (eg. 
200page) tiffs.

thanks, tim
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Re: [Gimp-user] how to exposing more tiff load options for scripting

2012-08-18 Thread Burnie West

On 08/18/2012 02:08 PM, Tim Dickson wrote:
I am trying to load single pages from multipage tiffs, convert them to 
monochrome (dithered), flatten the image, then save them as single monochrome, 
ccitt group4 tiffs. - all through scripts.


The multipage tiffs contain pages in grayscale and colour which were created 
using the old style (problematic) jpeg compression option.


I have tried other tools, such as libtiff (modified with a patch to handle the 
old jpeg compression), and the latest version of imagemajick. Unfortunately 
they cannot correctly convert the files, whereas gimp can, but only one page 
of the multi-page tiff at a time
(gimp crashes if I load a 5page document (as separate images) then convert 
each image to monochrome,flatten and save in one session)
Are you using a developmental version (2.9 --)? If not, the crash itself 
warrants a bug report.


the scripting function for loading tiffs
file-tiff-load
does not expose the options to load individual pages, or to select loading as 
images or as layers, which the visual file load/import does.


does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can achieve this using a script.?
manually is not a problem, but too time consuming for large (eg. 200page) tiffs.
thanks, tim
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Re: [Gimp-user] how to exposing more tiff load options for scripting

2012-08-18 Thread Daniel Smith
I don't exactly get what you mean by 200 page tiffs?
You mean one continuous image that takes 200 pages worth of sub-images?
But anyways, are you using the batch mode? I've never done it but I
understand there
are a lot of options there from non-interactive command line mode?
http://www.google.com/search?client=safarirls=enq=gimp+scripting+options+command+lineie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8
Dan

On 8/18/12, Burnie West w...@ieee.org wrote:
 On 08/18/2012 02:08 PM, Tim Dickson wrote:
 I am trying to load single pages from multipage tiffs, convert them to
 monochrome (dithered), flatten the image, then save them as single
 monochrome,
 ccitt group4 tiffs. - all through scripts.

 The multipage tiffs contain pages in grayscale and colour which were
 created
 using the old style (problematic) jpeg compression option.

 I have tried other tools, such as libtiff (modified with a patch to handle
 the
 old jpeg compression), and the latest version of imagemajick.
 Unfortunately
 they cannot correctly convert the files, whereas gimp can, but only one
 page
 of the multi-page tiff at a time
 (gimp crashes if I load a 5page document (as separate images) then convert

 each image to monochrome,flatten and save in one session)
 Are you using a developmental version (2.9 --)? If not, the crash itself
 warrants a bug report.

 the scripting function for loading tiffs
 file-tiff-load
 does not expose the options to load individual pages, or to select loading
 as
 images or as layers, which the visual file load/import does.

 does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can achieve this using a
 script.?
 manually is not a problem, but too time consuming for large (eg. 200page)
 tiffs.
 thanks, tim
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Re: [Gimp-user] how to exposing more tiff load options for scripting

2012-08-18 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Daniel Smith opened...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't exactly get what you mean by 200 page tiffs?
 You mean one continuous image that takes 200 pages worth of sub-images?

TIFF can store multiple images (pages) in one file.  TIFF is one of
the most abused image formats I know of ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagged_Image_File_Format#Multiple_subfiles

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] how to exposing more tiff load options for scripting

2012-08-18 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Daniel Smith opened...@gmail.com wrote:
 That must be one heck of a big file. I used to work in graphics
 but nothing like that.
 This topic reminds me of the woman a while back who was
 making a giant fabric image like a mile long?

It's probably not that bad, since they are grayscale and
JPEG-compressed.  By the OP's desire to save as CCITT 1-bit, I infer
that they're probably document scans, so the JPEG/TIFF compression
would keep the file size down.

Since there's nothing in the procedure browser that seems to deal with
multipage TIFFs, I'm not sure GIMP can be scripted to deal with them
though.  Some time ago, I looked at extending what was exposed to the
procedure browser but I couldn't really make heads or tails of it.

Hmm - how about getting ImageMagick to just split the TIFFs into
individual files, then running the batch plug-in or your own script?

Chris

PS - I'm a freelancer and dabble in a bit of everything.  Feel free to
contact me off-list if you'd want to hire me to look into it for you.
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