Re: [Gimp-user] Add Border and Add Bevel values

2014-09-13 Thread Russell Gadd
On 13 September 2014 17:30, Alexandre Prokoudine <
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Russell Gadd wrote:
> >...
>
>
> > 3. The "delta" value on colour creates a gradient on the sides which I
> > don't want but unfortunately it doesn't accept zero, the lowest value is
> 1.
> > Is it possible to allow a zero value? However I'm not too troubled by
> this
> > as a value of 1 is hardly detectable.
>
> Sorry, I don't get it. Bevel is a 3D thing. It's supposed to have
> shading. If you need a flat fill inthe frame, please use the Add
> Border script.
>
> I may have confused you. The delta is a differential in colour on the
border sides not the bevel. I want a flat border with a bevelled edge which
would represent a simple mount or flat wooden frame with chamfered
inner/outer edges. Using the Add Bevel after Add Border works fine.

But in Add Border, using a large delta gives what looks like perhaps a
metal frame with thin outer edges and thicker inner edges (or vice-versa
depending on how you perceive it). Still, as I said, it's not a problem in
practice as a delta of 1 gives a virtually undetectable change in colour.

Thanks for the recipe to fix it. I couldn't have figured any of this out
for myself. I haven't tried it yet, but I will attempt the local scripts
version as this would be safer and as you say protected against upgrades
overwriting it.

Russell

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Re: [Gimp-user] Add Border and Add Bevel values

2014-09-13 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Russell Gadd wrote:
> In the hope that the developers keep an eye on this mailing list, I'm
> putting forward a request for a few (hopefully minor) enhancements, as
> follows:

Russell,

You don't need to be a developer to adjust that.

> 1. The maximum border is 250 which is often too small for my purposes.

Find the file called addborder.scm amd open it in the file editor.
Change 250 to whatever you need in these two lines:

  SF-ADJUSTMENT _"Border X size" '(12 1 250 1 10 0 1)
  SF-ADJUSTMENT _"Border Y size" '(12 1 250 1 10 0 1)

> 2. When I add a bevel the maximum bevel is 30, could this be extended, to
> say 100?

Same thing. Find and open add-bevel.scm, tweak this line:

  SF-ADJUSTMENT _"Thickness"   '(5 0 30 1 2 0 0)

Actually, I think that now that pictures are bigger on average, we
might adjust that in upstream, although I'm not sure if this should be
done in 2.8.x.

In both cases, technically it's better to:

1. Make copies of the original files,

2. Edit your copies. Change names of the scripts that show up in menu,
e.g. change:

_"Add B_evel..."

to

_"Advanced Add B_evel..."

3. Rename the low-level technical name that is used for registering a
new script, e.g. change

(script-fu-menu-register "script-fu-add-bevel" "/Filters/Decor")

to

(script-fu-menu-register "script-fu-advanced-add-bevel" "/Filters/Decor")

as well as:

(script-fu-menu-register "script-fu-add-bevel" "/Filters/Decor")

to

(script-fu-menu-register "script-fu-advanced-add-bevel" "/Filters/Decor")

4. Place edited copies to your local scripts folder. That way your
changes won't be overwritten, when you install new version of GIMP.

> 3. The "delta" value on colour creates a gradient on the sides which I
> don't want but unfortunately it doesn't accept zero, the lowest value is 1.
> Is it possible to allow a zero value? However I'm not too troubled by this
> as a value of 1 is hardly detectable.

Sorry, I don't get it. Bevel is a 3D thing. It's supposed to have
shading. If you need a flat fill inthe frame, please use the Add
Border script.

Alex
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[Gimp-user] Add Border and Add Bevel values

2014-09-10 Thread Russell Gadd
In the hope that the developers keep an eye on this mailing list, I'm
putting forward a request for a few (hopefully minor) enhancements, as
follows:

I paint watercolours and I use the Add Border option of the Filters > Decor
menu to make a "mount" around a photo of a finished painting, after
cropping. There are some values that have to be specified which I would
like to see modified if at all possible:

1. The maximum border is 250 which is often too small for my purposes. Can
I suggest 1000. Although I could add another border to make a larger
border, I then can't add a bevel because I need to add the bevel on the
first border before adding the second border and then there's a bevel
between the two borders.
So an alternative to increasing the maximum border would be to have an
option to make a bevel just on the inside or outside. I expect this would
be more work than just changing the default maximum border although it
would extend the possibilities more.
2. When I add a bevel the maximum bevel is 30, could this be extended, to
say 100?
3. The "delta" value on colour creates a gradient on the sides which I
don't want but unfortunately it doesn't accept zero, the lowest value is 1.
Is it possible to allow a zero value? However I'm not too troubled by this
as a value of 1 is hardly detectable.

Russell
(using Gimp 2.8.10 in Linux Mint 17)
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