[Gimp-user] Rotate Issue

[rich2005]

>The first few times I used the rotate tool, it did what I
>expected--rotated the entire image. The last few times, though, it's
>been cutting off part of the image when I preview it before rotating
>it (picture 1), and when I actually do rotate it...snip

In the rotate tool option Clipping, you have 'Crop to Result' set, change it
back to 'Adjust' see screenshot

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[Gimp-user] Rotate Issue

[TStrange]

The first few times I used the rotate tool, it did what I expected--rotated the
entire image. The last few times, though, it's been cutting off part of the
image when I preview it before rotating it (picture 1), and when I actually do
rotate it, it shows only a small piece of the full image--less than it even
showed in the preview. I've tried making the canvas larger, but nothing I do
seems to make a difference. It's especially weird because it did work before!

Thanks for any suggestions!

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Re: [Gimp-user] rotate layer

[Steve Kinney]

On 12/20/2016 09:26 AM, Wes James wrote:
> I created a square layer on another larger square layer in gimp.  When I
> try to rotate this square, it doesn't do anything.  I've googled "rotate
> layer gimp", but none of the things they say to do works.  I'm trying to
> create a checkerboard like pattern on a large square.  I was trying to
> create one square and rotate it then I was going to copy that seven across
> and then seven down. How can I rotate a layer?

I have to wonder exactly what you mean by "created a square layer on
another layer."  If you meant "above" another layer, all is well.

Layer > New Layer opens the dialog for creating a new layer.  Or do
Shift+Control+n on your keyboard, same thing.

To rotate a layer, do Layer > Transform and select the option you want.
There is also a Rotate tool in the main toolbox, that allows you to
adjust the center of rotation by dragging the crosshairs icon that
appears on the layer around (default is the center of the layer), and
rotate by click and drag on the layer or manually enter a value in
degrees.

To make a 7x7 checkerboard pattern automagically, do Filters > Render >
Pattern > Checkerboard and set the size you want the squares to be.
Select a 7x7 patch of squares, then do Layer > Crop to selection.

:o)



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[Gimp-user] rotate layer

[Wes James]

I created a square layer on another larger square layer in gimp.  When I
try to rotate this square, it doesn't do anything.  I've googled "rotate
layer gimp", but none of the things they say to do works.  I'm trying to
create a checkerboard like pattern on a large square.  I was trying to
create one square and rotate it then I was going to copy that seven across
and then seven down. How can I rotate a layer?

Thanks,

-wes
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[Gimp-user] rotate pasted image

[alin33]

thank you all,I accomplished what I wanted,thanks for your help

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Re: [Gimp-user] rotate pasted image

[Steve Kinney]

On 10/29/2016 01:34 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:

DOH!

The paragraph in my last post that beging with:

> To make the selection

Should end with:

Use the Lasso tool (clicking only, no dragging) guided by the guide
lines on the canvas the line you drew and rotated to make your
selection.  Then discard your white scratch layer and proceed as above.

Tha'll learn me to proofread better.

:o)

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Re: [Gimp-user] rotate pasted image

[Steve Kinney]

On 10/26/2016 09:42 AM, alin33 wrote:
>> When you use the word "selection" alone are you talking about the 
>> selection mask or the floating selection?
>>
>> You don't "move" anything in a rotation if the center of rotation is
>> the
>> center of the layer, and this is the default...
> Ok i explain what I'm trying to do.I have a quarter or circle-thats the
> selection-i selected it by color.I paste into this quarter an image-and I want
> to transform it and rotate it inside the quarter without moving the boundaries
> of the quarter selection-the purpose is to find the right look of the pasted
> image because I want to copy the quarter paste it-and finally make a full 
> circle
> mandala.My purpose is to manipulate the pasted image as free as I can-I can 
> move
> it-but i can't rotate it because it rotates the quarter selection also.I don't
> know anything about working with masks.I really hope you have some advits into
> ice for me,because really I already tried evrything.If tou have clear steps of
> what I should do-please replay.thanks.It all began from an ytube video about a
> guy that does digital mandala in photoshop-he pastes it into the quarter of
> circle and manipulate the pasted image in all the possible ways.Is there a way
> to do it in gimp?

What I have done in similar cases:  First I open the source image in the
GIMP.  Then I select the area I want to duplicate, invert the selection
(Select > Invert), and delete everything but the part I want to work
with.  Then I copy the layer, and rotate the copy.  Then I select the
original layer, copy the first layer again, move the new copy to the top
of the layer stack, and rotate the new copy.  I repeat this until I have
completed the circle I am making from copies.

Using only copies of the original layer prevents repeated copy > rotate
from adding noise (transform errors) that would accumulate if copies of
rotated copies etc. were used.

I seem to remember a GIMP script for this, but I can't find the one I am
looking for just now.  However, this should automate everything except
making the initial selection:

http://registry.gimp.org/node/15534

Other things that might be useful in this context:

*  To make the selection, place a vertical line down the center of the
canvas (Image > Guides > New Guide (by percent).  Make a new layer, fill
it with white, and draw a black line right down the center using the
guide.  Then do Layer > Transform > Rotate and rotate the layer as many
degrees as you need for your wedge (360/n.).  Assuming you want to
rotate your mandala parts around the center of the image, add a
horizontal guide centered on the canvas, then use the "lasso" tool to
make your selection as indicated by the guide lines and the line on your
rotated white layer.

*  Instead of deleting the unwanted parts of the source image, do the
selection on your source image, invert it, add a layer mask and fill the
selected area (of the mask) with black.  Proceed as above with the copy
and rotate process.  Advantage:  You can adjust the edges where the
visible parts of the layers meet, by painting on the layer masks with
black to remove visible pixels from the final image, or with white to
restore "deleted" pixels to visibility.  This will however give you a
much larger XCF file.

*  Place a vertical guide down the center of the canvas and free rotate,
move etc. your source image layer until that guide line is right where
you want one of the edges of your pattern's wedges to be.  Select and
add a mask as above.  Then, duplicate the layer and do Layer > Transform
> Flip horizontally.  This will give you a wedge where the edges along
the vertical guide match perfectly.  Merge the 2nd layer down into the
first, duplicate and rotate until your circle is filled.

:o)





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[Gimp-user] rotate pasted image

[alin33]

>When you use the word "selection" alone are you talking about the 
>selection mask or the floating selection?
>
>You don't "move" anything in a rotation if the center of rotation is
>the
>center of the layer, and this is the default...
Ok i explain what I'm trying to do.I have a quarter or circle-thats the
selection-i selected it by color.I paste into this quarter an image-and I want
to transform it and rotate it inside the quarter without moving the boundaries
of the quarter selection-the purpose is to find the right look of the pasted
image because I want to copy the quarter paste it-and finally make a full circle
mandala.My purpose is to manipulate the pasted image as free as I can-I can move
it-but i can't rotate it because it rotates the quarter selection also.I don't
know anything about working with masks.I really hope you have some advits into
ice for me,because really I already tried evrything.If tou have clear steps of
what I should do-please replay.thanks.It all began from an ytube video about a
guy that does digital mandala in photoshop-he pastes it into the quarter of
circle and manipulate the pasted image in all the possible ways.Is there a way
to do it in gimp?

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Re: [Gimp-user] rotate pasted image

[Noel Stoutenburg]

alin33 wrote:

Hello I pasted into a selection an image,so now its floating selection.I want to
rotate not the selection but to rotate the image that I have pasted into the
selection,but not move the selection at all.
What you call in the first sentence a "floating selection" is actually a 
"floating layer", and can be manipulated using the layer dialogs. In 
this case, if you make certain the floating layer is the active layer, 
use the "layer" menu item of the image, and in the "transform menu item" 
of the layers menu, you will find options to allow you to flip the layer 
horizontally, vertically, rotate it left or right. This works not only 
on floating layers, but real ones, as well.


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Re: [Gimp-user] rotate pasted image

[Liam R. E. Quin]

On Wed, 2016-10-26 at 14:07 +0200, alin33 wrote:
> Hello I pasted into a selection an image,so now its floating
> selection.

E.g.
(1) copy something onto the clipboard in GIMP or elsewhere
(2) make a selection in GIMP
(3) use GIMP's edit->paste into


> I want to
> rotate not the selection but to rotate the image that I have pasted
> into the
> selection,but not move the selection at all.

E.g. press R or use tools/transform tools/rotate or choose the Rotate
tool from the toolbox and click on the selection

> I see that I can move the pasted
> image inside the selection with the move tool,but can't rotate it
> without moving
> the selection 

The selection (as shown by the marching ants) doesn't move when i use
the rotate tool. But when you press OK to do the rotate, the marching
ants are indeed rotated.

One way I found to stop them rotating:

(1) copy
(2) select
(3) select->save to channel
(4) go to the layers dialogue and reselect the layer you're working on
(5) edit->paste inside
(6) rotate
(7) in layers, click the new layer button to make the floating
selection into a layer
(8) in the channels dialogue, right-click the saved selection and use
Channel to Selection
(9) in the layers dialogue reselect the layer you're working on.

Almost any time you interact with the Channels in GIMP you need to go
back and reselect the current layer or you end up drawing only on the
saved channel.

It's also possible to paste as a new layer directly, but this will
paste it in the top left of your image, not inside the selection. You
can work around that by including the four corners of the image in the
selection (actually just the top left is enough) using shift and the
rectangle or noose tool, but it's a pain. So I think the workflow I've
suggested may be easiest.

Liam

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Re: [Gimp-user] rotate pasted image

[Ofnuts]

On 26/10/16 14:07, alin33 wrote:

Hello I pasted into a selection an image,so now its floating selection.I want to
rotate not the selection but to rotate the image that I have pasted into the
selection,but not move the selection at all.I see that I can move the pasted
image inside the selection with the move tool,but can't rotate it without moving
the selection .I know that in Photoshop it's possible,but I can't figure out how
to do it in gimpand the anchor doesn't help. becuse after anchoring the
selection rotates also,but I can't do the rotation before anchor too-it makes
everything a mess.Is it even possible in gimp?

When you use the word "selection" alone are you talking about the 
selection mask or the floating selection?


You don't "move" anything in a rotation if the center of rotation is the 
center of the layer, and this is the default...



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[Gimp-user] rotate pasted image

[alin33]

Hello I pasted into a selection an image,so now its floating selection.I want to
rotate not the selection but to rotate the image that I have pasted into the
selection,but not move the selection at all.I see that I can move the pasted
image inside the selection with the move tool,but can't rotate it without moving
the selection .I know that in Photoshop it's possible,but I can't figure out how
to do it in gimpand the anchor doesn't help. becuse after anchoring the
selection rotates also,but I can't do the rotation before anchor too-it makes
everything a mess.Is it even possible in gimp?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Rotate image gest squashed

[Liam R E Quin]

On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 18:58 +0200, Dunkgrease wrote:
> That is exactly what I am doing.  But the image is squashed.

If you take a tall thin image and rotate it you will get a short wide
image.

If this is not what you expect, or you are trying to do something
different, you'll have to explain using a lot more words :-), much more
clearly, perhaps with examples.

Please don't post images to the list, but you can post them to
imagebucket or somewhere and then send us the URL, and an explanation of
what you want to happen exactly, and what actually happens, and we can
try to help :-)

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[Gimp-user] Rotate image gest squashed

[Dunkgrease]

That is exactly what I am doing.  But the image is squashed.

Steve

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Re: [Gimp-user] Rotate image gest squashed

[Owen]

Image->Transform->Rotate




Owen

Dunkgrease  wrote:

>I have an image that I took in portrait, so when I view it in Gimp it is on its
>side.
>
>When I try to rotate it using transform the image gets squashed, (not cropped,
>just squashed).
>
>I cannot find any setting that allows me to keep the same image proportions.
>
>Can anyone help?
>
>thanks
>
>Steve
>
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[Gimp-user] Rotate image gest squashed

[Dunkgrease]

I have an image that I took in portrait, so when I view it in Gimp it is on its
side.

When I try to rotate it using transform the image gets squashed, (not cropped,
just squashed).

I cannot find any setting that allows me to keep the same image proportions.

Can anyone help?

thanks

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Re: [Gimp-user] Rotate?

[Patrick Horgan]

On 02/05/2012 05:36 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
> Erik P. Olsen wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks a lot for the information. Makes sense but I am not yet this
>> experienced. At least I now know how to use it if the need arises.
>>
>
> You didn't ask, but I can't pass up a chance to plug my favorite book
> on GIMP,
>
> /Beginning GIMP: From Novice to Professional/ by listmember Akkana
> Peck. (cf. )
>
> I can say without question that it was hands down the best book on a
> software package I ever bought.
+1!

Patrick

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Re: [Gimp-user] Rotate?

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Erik P. Olsen wrote:



Thanks a lot for the information. Makes sense but I am not yet this
experienced. At least I now know how to use it if the need arises.



You didn't ask, but I can't pass up a chance to plug my favorite book on 
GIMP,


/Beginning GIMP: From Novice to Professional/ by listmember Akkana Peck. 
(cf. )


I can say without question that it was hands down the best book on a 
software package I ever bought.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Rotate?

[Erik P. Olsen]

On 05/02/12 15:18, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote:

"Erik P. Olsen"  writes:

[...]



Thanks for this detailed description. Yes, I've rotated the layer
only, so now at least I know how to rotate correctly. But please
enlighten me why would you want to rotate a layer and not the entire
image?


Because sometimes you have several layers (that's sort of the point of
layers, otherwise the concept of layers would be useless). Just to give
a simple example: you open an image of a mountain landscape as a
background layer, then add an image of a plane as another layer on top
of that. But the plane is flying from left to right, which is boring, so
you rotate it (the layer) so it's flying straight up. If you had rotated
the entire image, the mountains would be sideways.


Thanks a lot for the information. Makes sense but I am not yet this experienced. 
At least I now know how to use it if the need arises.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Rotate?

[Kevin Brubeck Unhammer]

"Erik P. Olsen"  writes:

[...]

>
> Thanks for this detailed description. Yes, I've rotated the layer
> only, so now at least I know how to rotate correctly. But please
> enlighten me why would you want to rotate a layer and not the entire
> image?

Because sometimes you have several layers (that's sort of the point of
layers, otherwise the concept of layers would be useless). Just to give
a simple example: you open an image of a mountain landscape as a
background layer, then add an image of a plane as another layer on top
of that. But the plane is flying from left to right, which is boring, so
you rotate it (the layer) so it's flying straight up. If you had rotated
the entire image, the mountains would be sideways.


-Kevin

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Re: [Gimp-user] Rotate?

[Борис Кукушкин]

Imagine that you are making a collage out of several photos and would like
to lilt them a little bit :)



2012/2/5 Erik P. Olsen 

> On 05/02/12 13:37, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
>
>> Erik P. Olsen wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Why can't I rotate images similarly with Gimp?
>>>
>>>
>> and I concur with the answer that BK gave, as far as it went. But to
>> expand a
>> bit, there are several ways to rotate an image. For the purpose Erik
>> mentioned,
>> I'd use the method BK mentioned:
>>
>> Image > Transform > Rotate...
>>
>> This is the equivalent of rotating the substrate upon which the image
>> lies.
>>
>> There is a second way, useful when one wants to modify some part (or all)
>> of the
>> image with respect to the substrate.
>>
>> Layer > Transform > Rotate...
>>
>> acts similarly to the method BK described, except that it rotates the
>> layer
>> containing the image, or some part of it, with respect to the rest. If
>> one has
>> an image that has unequal dimensions, like a rectangle or oval, and
>> rotates the
>> layer relative to the substrate (canvas is the term GIMP uses), then part
>> of the
>> layer is no longer over the substrate. This gives a result similar to
>> what the
>> OP describes: part of the image is no longer over substrate, and gets
>> lost.
>>
>> A third method works similarly to the method of the layer transform: the
>> Rotate
>> tool in the toolbox. The rotate tool will rotate a selection of the image
>> (which
>> may, but need not necessarily coincide with an image) and rotate that
>> selection
>> relative to the remainder of the image. And just like the layer transform
>> I
>> describe above, there is a risk that a selection with unequal dimensions
>> will
>> lose part of the information.
>>
>> It turns out, though, that even if one seems to have lost the information
>> by
>> choosing layer or selection rotation instead of image rotation, that
>> besides
>> undo, there is a convenient way to recover the information no longer over
>> substrate. One can resize the canvas. Once the canvas is resized with the
>> dimensions of the image again matching the dimensions of the rotated
>> part, the
>> full image again becomes visible.
>>
>
> Thanks for this detailed description. Yes, I've rotated the layer only, so
> now at least I know how to rotate correctly. But please enlighten me why
> would you want to rotate a layer and not the entire image?
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] Rotate?

[Erik P. Olsen]

On 05/02/12 13:37, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:

Erik P. Olsen wrote:



Why can't I rotate images similarly with Gimp?



and I concur with the answer that BK gave, as far as it went. But to expand a
bit, there are several ways to rotate an image. For the purpose Erik mentioned,
I'd use the method BK mentioned:

Image > Transform > Rotate...

This is the equivalent of rotating the substrate upon which the image lies.

There is a second way, useful when one wants to modify some part (or all) of the
image with respect to the substrate.

Layer > Transform > Rotate...

acts similarly to the method BK described, except that it rotates the layer
containing the image, or some part of it, with respect to the rest. If one has
an image that has unequal dimensions, like a rectangle or oval, and rotates the
layer relative to the substrate (canvas is the term GIMP uses), then part of the
layer is no longer over the substrate. This gives a result similar to what the
OP describes: part of the image is no longer over substrate, and gets lost.

A third method works similarly to the method of the layer transform: the Rotate
tool in the toolbox. The rotate tool will rotate a selection of the image (which
may, but need not necessarily coincide with an image) and rotate that selection
relative to the remainder of the image. And just like the layer transform I
describe above, there is a risk that a selection with unequal dimensions will
lose part of the information.

It turns out, though, that even if one seems to have lost the information by
choosing layer or selection rotation instead of image rotation, that besides
undo, there is a convenient way to recover the information no longer over
substrate. One can resize the canvas. Once the canvas is resized with the
dimensions of the image again matching the dimensions of the rotated part, the
full image again becomes visible.


Thanks for this detailed description. Yes, I've rotated the layer only, so now 
at least I know how to rotate correctly. But please enlighten me why would you 
want to rotate a layer and not the entire image?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Rotate?

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Erik P. Olsen wrote:



Why can't I rotate images similarly with Gimp?



and I concur with the answer that BK gave, as far as it went. But to 
expand a bit, there are several ways to rotate an image. For the purpose 
Erik mentioned, I'd use the method BK mentioned:


Image > Transform > Rotate...

This is the equivalent of rotating the substrate upon which the image lies.

There is a second way, useful when one wants to modify some part (or 
all) of the image with respect to the substrate.


Layer > Transform > Rotate...

acts similarly to the method BK described, except that it rotates the 
layer containing the image, or some part of it, with respect to the 
rest. If one has an image that has unequal dimensions, like a rectangle 
or oval, and rotates the layer relative to the substrate (canvas is the 
term GIMP uses), then part of the layer is no longer over the substrate. 
This gives a result similar to what the OP describes: part of the image 
is no longer over substrate, and gets lost.


A third method works similarly to the method of the layer transform: the 
Rotate tool in the toolbox. The rotate tool will rotate a selection of 
the image (which may, but need not necessarily coincide with an image) 
and rotate that selection relative to the remainder of the image. And 
just like the layer transform I describe above, there is a risk that a 
selection with unequal dimensions will lose part of the information.


It turns out, though, that even if one seems to have lost the 
information by choosing layer or selection rotation instead of image 
rotation, that besides undo, there is a convenient way to recover the 
information no longer over substrate. One can resize the canvas. Once 
the canvas is resized with the dimensions of the image again matching 
the dimensions of the rotated part, the full image again becomes visible.


ns


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Re: [Gimp-user] Rotate?

[Борис Кукушкин]

How exactly are you trying to rotate the image? Try going through the
following menu: Image - Transformation and select something like 'Rotate 90
degrees clockwise' or counterclockwise. Sorry if I misspelled the menu
titles as my GIMP is in Russian) .

Good luck!
B.K.

2012/2/5 Erik P. Olsen 

> When I have a photo that has come out portrait rather than landscape which
> is a normal case the rotate function seems to cut off some of the two sides
> of the photo. If I want to rotate it what I call correctly I use Gnome
> Image Viewer.
>
> Why can't I rotate images similarly with Gimp?
>
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[Gimp-user] Rotate?

[Erik P. Olsen]

When I have a photo that has come out portrait rather than landscape which is a 
normal case the rotate function seems to cut off some of the two sides of the 
photo. If I want to rotate it what I call correctly I use Gnome Image Viewer.


Why can't I rotate images similarly with Gimp?

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