Re: [Gimp-user] reassign F1 key shortcut

2016-06-04 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 18:19:20 -0400, Steve Kinney wrote:

> Or maybe not.  A context sensitive F-key command that opens the help
> menu for the window manager's currently focused application belongs to
> the window manager, not system firmware.  Firmware would have no way of
> knowing what application is currently focused, thus, no way of knowing
> which help menu to open.  When the problem is "It opens the Help menu
> and I can't find where to change that," the problem pretty much has to
> be the window manager.

There are actually several scancodes defined for help, and I've seen
laptops send them.

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Re: [Gimp-user] reassign F1 key shortcut

2016-06-04 Thread Steve Kinney


On 06/04/2016 04:42 PM, Jernej Simončič wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 15:43:33 -0400, Steve Kinney wrote:
> 
>> Damn.  A window manager shortcut was interfering with the GIMP on my
>> system a while back, it took me about three minutes to set that right,
>> because Linux.
> 
> If you had the same problem as Dale, Linux wouldn't help you - some laptops
> "helpfully" reassign the F-keys to multimedia keys at hardware level, and
> require you to press Fn+F-key to get the actual F-key. Usually this can be
> disabled in BIOS setup, but I've seen one laptop where you had to update
> the BIOS first before the option became available (and even then it was
> named in such way that it way easy to overlook it).

Or maybe not.  A context sensitive F-key command that opens the help
menu for the window manager's currently focused application belongs to
the window manager, not system firmware.  Firmware would have no way of
knowing what application is currently focused, thus, no way of knowing
which help menu to open.  When the problem is "It opens the Help menu
and I can't find where to change that," the problem pretty much has to
be the window manager.

;o)


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Re: [Gimp-user] reassign F1 key shortcut

2016-06-04 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 15:43:33 -0400, Steve Kinney wrote:

> Damn.  A window manager shortcut was interfering with the GIMP on my
> system a while back, it took me about three minutes to set that right,
> because Linux.

If you had the same problem as Dale, Linux wouldn't help you - some laptops
"helpfully" reassign the F-keys to multimedia keys at hardware level, and
require you to press Fn+F-key to get the actual F-key. Usually this can be
disabled in BIOS setup, but I've seen one laptop where you had to update
the BIOS first before the option became available (and even then it was
named in such way that it way easy to overlook it).

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Re: [Gimp-user] reassign F1 key shortcut

2016-06-04 Thread Steve Kinney


On 06/04/2016 08:28 AM, Dale Manolakas wrote:
> Thanks for the info. 
> 
> On Saturday, June 4, 2016 1:20 AM, MasterBooth  
> wrote:
>  
> 
>  >I think the binding for F1 might be in your window manager / OS rather
>> than the GIMP.  I would check the keyboard shortcut configuration menu
>> for your window manager ("Windows", Gnome, or etc), and unset F1 if it
>> is used there.
> 
> Thanks - it probably is the OS overwriting my GIMP shortcut. I use Windows 10
> and have just spent several houres tying to find out how to disable F1 (or all
> fn keys). Looks like it can't be done simply in Windows, you need to go to
> advanced startup and look for it in UEFI. I have done that after watching and
> reading tutorials, went through the complete menus of my AsRock UEFI but
> couldn't find the place to disable fn keys. This is really annoying, I have
> spent far more time on it than I should have and no results still :(

Damn.  A window manager shortcut was interfering with the GIMP on my
system a while back, it took me about three minutes to set that right,
because Linux.

Toss another rock on the mountain weighing down the "Free Software" side
of the scales.

:o/




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Re: [Gimp-user] reassign F1 key shortcut

2016-06-04 Thread Dale Manolakas
Thanks for the info. 

On Saturday, June 4, 2016 1:20 AM, MasterBooth  wrote:
 

 >I think the binding for F1 might be in your window manager / OS rather
>than the GIMP.  I would check the keyboard shortcut configuration menu
>for your window manager ("Windows", Gnome, or etc), and unset F1 if it
>is used there.

Thanks - it probably is the OS overwriting my GIMP shortcut. I use Windows 10
and have just spent several houres tying to find out how to disable F1 (or all
fn keys). Looks like it can't be done simply in Windows, you need to go to
advanced startup and look for it in UEFI. I have done that after watching and
reading tutorials, went through the complete menus of my AsRock UEFI but
couldn't find the place to disable fn keys. This is really annoying, I have
spent far more time on it than I should have and no results still :(

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[Gimp-user] reassign F1 key shortcut

2016-06-04 Thread MasterBooth
>I think the binding for F1 might be in your window manager / OS rather
>than the GIMP.  I would check the keyboard shortcut configuration menu
>for your window manager ("Windows", Gnome, or etc), and unset F1 if it
>is used there.

Thanks - it probably is the OS overwriting my GIMP shortcut. I use Windows 10
and have just spent several houres tying to find out how to disable F1 (or all
fn keys). Looks like it can't be done simply in Windows, you need to go to
advanced startup and look for it in UEFI. I have done that after watching and
reading tutorials, went through the complete menus of my AsRock UEFI but
couldn't find the place to disable fn keys. This is really annoying, I have
spent far more time on it than I should have and no results still :(

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Re: [Gimp-user] reassign F1 key shortcut

2016-06-01 Thread Steve Kinney


On 06/01/2016 05:32 AM, MasterBooth wrote:
> I'm creating my own keyboard shortcuts in GIMP.
> I have reassigned a number of keys already and they are a great help.
> 
> I have tried to assign colors > levels to F1 and it does display F1 as the new
> shortcut and does no longer show F1 as the shortcut for Help, still when I 
> press
> F1 it keeps opening up the help window... so what does it take to unbind Help
> from F1?
> 
> Also I have noticed that some keys like Tab can't be used to assign for
> shortcuts? Is that true, does this have a reason or am I missing something on
> how to do it?

I think the binding for F1 might be in your window manager / OS rather
than the GIMP.  I would check the keyboard shortcut configuration menu
for your window manager ("Windows", Gnome, or etc), and unset F1 if it
is used there.

Alt+F1 might be an acceptable alternative?


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[Gimp-user] reassign F1 key shortcut

2016-06-01 Thread MasterBooth
I'm creating my own keyboard shortcuts in GIMP.
I have reassigned a number of keys already and they are a great help.

I have tried to assign colors > levels to F1 and it does display F1 as the new
shortcut and does no longer show F1 as the shortcut for Help, still when I press
F1 it keeps opening up the help window... so what does it take to unbind Help
from F1?

Also I have noticed that some keys like Tab can't be used to assign for
shortcuts? Is that true, does this have a reason or am I missing something on
how to do it?

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