Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP move tool

2014-05-16 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine
 wrote:
> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Richard wrote:
>
>> Take Paths for example:  Path objects do not have attached layer data,
>> meaning that every time you adjust a path you have to re-stroke it onto a
>> target surface.
>
> Oh, that. Øyvind might need to correct me, but basic stroking of
> SVG-based paths is done in GEGL. "We have an op for that" :)

The gegl:path op (or a similar one), is the foundation that seems
natural to base vector layers on. The gegl:text op isn't as powerful
as GIMPs text tool yet; but is other, and similar, rendering code that
ideally would be migrated to a GEGL op.

/Øyvind
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP move tool

2014-05-16 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Richard wrote:

> Take Paths for example:  Path objects do not have attached layer data,
> meaning that every time you adjust a path you have to re-stroke it onto a
> target surface.

Oh, that. Øyvind might need to correct me, but basic stroking of
SVG-based paths is done in GEGL. "We have an op for that" :)

Alexandre
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP move tool

2014-05-16 Thread Richard
> Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 18:24:17 +0400
> From: alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com
> CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP move tool
> 
> 16 мая 2014 г. 18:17 пользователь "Richard" 
> написал:
> 
> > GIMP has basically no support for this kind of
> > object manipulation at this time, though I agree
> > that in some cases having a few 'vector objects'
> > as their own discrete layers (a la text objects
> > and layers) would be very, very convenient.
> 
> Just for precision's sake, GIMP has a backend for vector layers, without UI
> (there _was_ initial UI, it was never merged). But the code hasn't been
> touched in years, and I've my suspicions about its usefulness.
> 
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Take Paths for example:  Path objects do not have attached layer data, meaning 
that every time you adjust a path you have to re-stroke it onto a target 
surface.  Contrast with text objects, which do have an attached layer that 
updates automatically as you change the underlying text or rendering style 
(font face, color, etc.)

(I also find GIMP's path editing controls very confusing compared to Inkscape, 
but that's a different matter.)

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP move tool

2014-05-16 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
16 мая 2014 г. 18:17 пользователь "Richard" 
написал:

> GIMP has basically no support for this kind of
> object manipulation at this time, though I agree
> that in some cases having a few 'vector objects'
> as their own discrete layers (a la text objects
> and layers) would be very, very convenient.

Just for precision's sake, GIMP has a backend for vector layers, without UI
(there _was_ initial UI, it was never merged). But the code hasn't been
touched in years, and I've my suspicions about its usefulness.

Alexandre
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP move tool

2014-05-16 Thread Richard
> Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 09:23:15 +0200
> From: for...@gimpusers.com
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> CC: notificati...@gimpusers.com
> Subject: [Gimp-user] GIMP move tool
> 
> Sorry, I forgot to attach.
> 
> Attachments:
> * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/114/original/select-move.png
> 
> -- 
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Judging from that screenshot, it looks like in Paint.net when you draw a 
geometric shape (circle, rectangle, etc.) it displays selection handles that 
enable you to move or alter said shape as a separate drawing object (like how 
GIMP handles ellipse/rectangle selections).  

GIMP has basically no support for this kind of object manipulation at this 
time, though I agree that in some cases having a few 'vector objects' as their 
own discrete layers (a la text objects and layers) would be very, very 
convenient.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP move tool

2014-05-16 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 11:07 AM, josephbupe wrote:

> Many times I am working with GIMP I want to like draw shapes on the same
> transparent layer and later move them around in different positions. However,
> it's not easy (in GIMP) to just select an area of a given shape and reposition
> it on the same layer without using cut and paste.

You mean, Ctrl+Alt+dragging a selection is not easy? :)

Alexandre
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