Re: [Gimp-user] Vignetting correction

2011-12-24 Thread Steve Kinney
On 12/24/2011 11:29 AM, phanisvara das wrote:
>
> thanks, that's useful. i've never thought much about this
> vignetting stuff. just was something we did routinely with larger
> prints, because the lenses tended to loose light toward the edges.
>
> the way you describe it, it can be used as a creative tool, not
> just subtle final polishing.

Yup, in some photos where the composition is weak and the eye is not
naturally drawn to the subject, vignetting can save the image. 
Other times, a photo that naturally looks like it has already had
the effect applied, can be made to "pop out and say WOW" by pushing
that effect a tiny bit further.

Other times you have to break out the clone and smudge tools and
start removing distracting objects... a last resort in most cases. 
Rarely as I use it, thank God and the developers for the perspective
clone tool.  And thank Robert A. Heinlein for teaching me that the
objective is not a "perfectly accurate" image, but rather, to "fool
the eye."

:o)
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Re: [Gimp-user] Vignetting correction

2011-12-24 Thread phanisvara das
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 21:07:22 +0530, Steve Kinney   
wrote:



On 12/24/2011 09:30 AM, phanisvara das wrote:

On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 19:18:05 +0530,
 wrote:



Hello everyone,

i have a problem trying to remove/adding vignetting with Gimp
2.6.8 and .11.

I have seen there is a nice tool in Filters-Distorts-Lens
distorsion.

But if i move only the brighten slider, nothing happens. It works
only if i move also the main slider (and in most images, for
example portraits, i won't need to touch it).

Is it the intended behaviour or i'm missing something (for
example another tool that only removes vignetting and shows a
preview)?

Thank you in advance.



not sure what type of vignette you're talking about, but to apply
one as i used to wile enlarging & developing prints the old way
(optically & chemically), i just select an ellipse from upper left
to lower right corner, invert the selection, and feather it
according to image size. this allows me to either lighten or
darken the corner areas, subtly focusing attention on the middle
region.

if that's the type of vignette you're looking for, i don't think
any tool can do that better than the plain ellipse selection tool.


Hey y'all,

I usually make a new transparent layer, scale it to about 120% of
canvas size, make an elliptical selection with a high value set in
"feather edges", invert the selection and and fill it with black.
Then I adjust the transparency of the layer until I get the effect I
want - which amounts to a realtime preview of the vignette effect,
with unlimited do-overs.  If the boundary of the dark area is too
sharp, use a high value gaussian blur on the vignetting layer.

I make the vignetting layer larger than the canvas because blur
effects tend to get a little "bent" at the edge of the layer.

There's always more than one way to do things.  For more precise
control:  Make a duplicate of the main image layer, add a white
mask, select the area to be emphasized with a feathered elliptical
selection tool, and fill it with black on the mask.  Then you can
tweak image component of the masked layer to emphasize the
"foreground" i.e. the visible part of the original layer - reduce
brightness and contrast, blur it a little to simulate a flatter
depth of field on the subject, etc.  If you deliberately "go a
little too far" with your tweaking on this layer, you can dial back
its opacity to adjust the amount of distortion in the finished image.



thanks, that's useful. i've never thought much about this vignetting  
stuff. just was something we did routinely with larger prints, because the  
lenses tended to loose light toward the edges.


the way you describe it, it can be used as a creative tool, not just  
subtle final polishing.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Vignetting correction

2011-12-24 Thread Steve Kinney
On 12/24/2011 09:30 AM, phanisvara das wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 19:18:05 +0530,
>  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> i have a problem trying to remove/adding vignetting with Gimp
>> 2.6.8 and .11.
>>
>> I have seen there is a nice tool in Filters-Distorts-Lens
>> distorsion.
>>
>> But if i move only the brighten slider, nothing happens. It works
>> only if i move also the main slider (and in most images, for
>> example portraits, i won't need to touch it).
>>
>> Is it the intended behaviour or i'm missing something (for
>> example another tool that only removes vignetting and shows a
>> preview)?
>>
>> Thank you in advance.
>>
>
> not sure what type of vignette you're talking about, but to apply
> one as i used to wile enlarging & developing prints the old way
> (optically & chemically), i just select an ellipse from upper left
> to lower right corner, invert the selection, and feather it
> according to image size. this allows me to either lighten or
> darken the corner areas, subtly focusing attention on the middle
> region.
>
> if that's the type of vignette you're looking for, i don't think
> any tool can do that better than the plain ellipse selection tool.
>
Hey y'all,

I usually make a new transparent layer, scale it to about 120% of
canvas size, make an elliptical selection with a high value set in
"feather edges", invert the selection and and fill it with black. 
Then I adjust the transparency of the layer until I get the effect I
want - which amounts to a realtime preview of the vignette effect,
with unlimited do-overs.  If the boundary of the dark area is too
sharp, use a high value gaussian blur on the vignetting layer. 

I make the vignetting layer larger than the canvas because blur
effects tend to get a little "bent" at the edge of the layer.

There's always more than one way to do things.  For more precise
control:  Make a duplicate of the main image layer, add a white
mask, select the area to be emphasized with a feathered elliptical
selection tool, and fill it with black on the mask.  Then you can
tweak image component of the masked layer to emphasize the
"foreground" i.e. the visible part of the original layer - reduce
brightness and contrast, blur it a little to simulate a flatter
depth of field on the subject, etc.  If you deliberately "go a
little too far" with your tweaking on this layer, you can dial back
its opacity to adjust the amount of distortion in the finished image.

:o)

Steve

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Re: [Gimp-user] Vignetting correction

2011-12-24 Thread phanisvara das
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 19:18:05 +0530,   
wrote:




Hello everyone,

i have a problem trying to remove/adding vignetting with Gimp 2.6.8 and  
.11.


I have seen there is a nice tool in Filters-Distorts-Lens distorsion.

But if i move only the brighten slider, nothing happens. It works only  
if i move also the main slider (and in most images, for example  
portraits, i won't need to touch it).


Is it the intended behaviour or i'm missing something (for example  
another tool that only removes vignetting and shows a preview)?


Thank you in advance.



not sure what type of vignette you're talking about, but to apply one as i  
used to wile enlarging & developing prints the old way (optically &  
chemically), i just select an ellipse from upper left to lower right  
corner, invert the selection, and feather it according to image size. this  
allows me to either lighten or darken the corner areas, subtly focusing  
attention on the middle region.


if that's the type of vignette you're looking for, i don't think any tool  
can do that better than the plain ellipse selection tool.


--
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