Re: [Gimp-user] How to move image when selecting?

2009-08-18 Thread Akkana Peck
Patrick Horgan writes:
> If you're trying to use the lasso it's frustrating like that, you have to do
> the whole thing in one complex wack.  If instead you use the path tool you can

(and in another message)
> In my link to the selection tutorial I should have given credit to Akkana Peck
> whose tutorial it is, and noted that her book:  Beginning GIMP: from novice to
> professional ROCKS  And also she helps people out here all the time and
> deserves a lot of credit for being such a good citizen of the net.

Thanks! What a nice thing to say. :-)

I should probably mention that that LinuxChix class is old (I think
it was based on GIMP 2.2) and in 2.6, the Lasso tool is *much*
easier to use. You no longer have to select in one go -- you can
drag for a while, stop, scroll the view, drag some more. You can
also mix freehand dragging with clicking to make line segments,
like you would with the Path tool. It's like the best parts of
the old Lasso combined with Paths.

I never used the old Lasso tool much, because I couldn't zoom in
and scroll around while selecting, but in 2.6 I use it quite a lot. 
If you haven't used the new Lasso because you didn't like the old
one, give the new one a try!

(Unfortunately for me the Lasso was changed to late to make it in
to the second edition of "Beginning GIMP" except as an appendix.
The perils of writing books based on actively developed projects ...)

...Akkana
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Re: [Gimp-user] How to move image when selecting?

2009-08-18 Thread Dotan Cohen
> In my link to the selection tutorial I should have given credit to Akkana
> Peck whose tutorial it is, and noted that her book:  Beginning GIMP: from
> novice to professional ROCKS  And also she helps people out here all the
> time and deserves a lot of credit for being such a good citizen of the net.
>

I have heard of that book. When / if I decide to really learn the Gimp
as it deserves to be learned (university and family schedule
supporting) then I will definitely look for a copy. Thank you for the
suggestion.


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Re: [Gimp-user] How to move image when selecting?

2009-08-18 Thread Dotan Cohen
> There's always only one selection. Creating a selection will replace the
> current one. That has nothing to do with panning. If you want to add to
> an existing selection, then choose the Add mode from the tool options of
> the selection tool. Or use the modifier keys (as hinted in the
> status-bar).
>
>
> If you're trying to use the lasso it's frustrating like that, you have to do
> the whole thing in one complex wack.  If instead you use the path tool you
> can keep adding the points to the path, edit them when you make a mistake,
> scroll the image around all you want, and then when you have it perfect
> convert the path the a selection.  I think it's MUCH easier than the lasso.
> Here's a great tutorial on this,
> http://mailman.linuxchix.org/pipermail/courses/2005-March/001821.html.
>

Thank you, Patrick, I will read that tutorial this evening.

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Re: [Gimp-user] How to move image when selecting?

2009-08-18 Thread Dotan Cohen
> I have a space-bar on my keyboard but nothing like MMB or LMB. What do these 
> stand for?
>

Middle Mouse Button and Left Mouse Button.


> On the other hand every one of the selection tools has four modes. The second 
> one is "Add to the present selection": highlighted on my picture of the 
> rectangular tool attached. The first one and the default is "Replace the 
> present selection". I suggest you try the second mode.
>

Thank you Andre, I will try that this evening. It looks to be just what I need.

> PS: my Gimp is now 2.6.7 and talks Dutch.
>

My Dutch is weaker than my English, and Gimp in my native language is
horrible! (Many UI problems)

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Re: [Gimp-user] How to move image when selecting?

2009-08-17 Thread Patrick Horgan




In my link to the selection tutorial I should have given credit to
Akkana Peck whose tutorial it is, and noted that her book:  Beginning
GIMP: from novice to professional ROCKS  And also she helps
people out here all the time and deserves a lot of credit for being
such a good citizen of the net.

Patrick



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Re: [Gimp-user] How to move image when selecting?

2009-08-17 Thread Patrick Horgan




Sven Neumann wrote:

  Hi,

On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 22:36 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:

  
  
When I do that, as soon as I finish making the second selection (after
the pan) I loose the first selection.

  
  
There's always only one selection. Creating a selection will replace the
current one. That has nothing to do with panning. If you want to add to
an existing selection, then choose the Add mode from the tool options of
the selection tool. Or use the modifier keys (as hinted in the
status-bar).
  

If you're trying to use the lasso it's frustrating like that, you have
to do the whole thing in one complex wack.  If instead you use the path
tool you can keep adding the points to the path, edit them when you
make a mistake, scroll the image around all you want, and then when you
have it perfect convert the path the a selection.  I think it's MUCH
easier than the lasso.  Here's a great tutorial on this,
http://mailman.linuxchix.org/pipermail/courses/2005-March/001821.html.

Patrick

  

Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] How to move image when selecting?

2009-08-17 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 22:36 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:

> When I do that, as soon as I finish making the second selection (after
> the pan) I loose the first selection.

There's always only one selection. Creating a selection will replace the
current one. That has nothing to do with panning. If you want to add to
an existing selection, then choose the Add mode from the tool options of
the selection tool. Or use the modifier keys (as hinted in the
status-bar).


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] How to move image when selecting?

2009-08-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
2009/8/17 Sven Neumann :
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 22:36 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> > Let go, pan using either MMB or space, then continue making the
>> > selection.  There's no penalty for releasing LMB early :)
>> >
>>
>> When I do that, as soon as I finish making the second selection (after
>> the pan) I loose the first selection.
>
> Are you using GIMP 2.6 or are you for whatever reason stuck to an older
> version?
>

GIMP 2.6.6


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Re: [Gimp-user] How to move image when selecting?

2009-08-17 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 22:36 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > Let go, pan using either MMB or space, then continue making the
> > selection.  There's no penalty for releasing LMB early :)
> >
> 
> When I do that, as soon as I finish making the second selection (after
> the pan) I loose the first selection.

Are you using GIMP 2.6 or are you for whatever reason stuck to an older
version?


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] How to move image when selecting?

2009-08-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Let go, pan using either MMB or space, then continue making the
> selection.  There's no penalty for releasing LMB early :)
>

When I do that, as soon as I finish making the second selection (after
the pan) I loose the first selection.

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Re: [Gimp-user] How to move image when selecting?

2009-08-17 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2009/8/17 Chris Mohler :
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>>> When I am selecting an area with the freehand select tool, how can I
>>> move the image shown? I need to select an area that is larger than my
>>> screen size. Zooming out is not an option because I need the precision
>>> that zoom gives me. Thanks.
>>
>> Try middle-mouse or space bar...
>>
>
> Thanks, Chris, but what I am looking for is a way to pan while
> selecting. As I cannot release the left mouse button (I have not
> selected all that I need to select) I need to pan with it depressed.

Let go, pan using either MMB or space, then continue making the
selection.  There's no penalty for releasing LMB early :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] How to move image when selecting?

2009-08-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
2009/8/17 Chris Mohler :
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> When I am selecting an area with the freehand select tool, how can I
>> move the image shown? I need to select an area that is larger than my
>> screen size. Zooming out is not an option because I need the precision
>> that zoom gives me. Thanks.
>
> Try middle-mouse or space bar...
>

Thanks, Chris, but what I am looking for is a way to pan while
selecting. As I cannot release the left mouse button (I have not
selected all that I need to select) I need to pan with it depressed.

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Re: [Gimp-user] How to move image when selecting?

2009-08-17 Thread Daniel Hornung
On Monday 17 August 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> When I am selecting an area with the freehand select tool, how can I
> move the image shown?

Hello Dotan,

try pressing the space bar.  Then the mouse should move (or more 
specifically "pan") your view of the image when no mouse button is pressed.  
I think that this is what you want :)  But maybe the navigator in the bottom 
right corner of the image window works better for you.  Just try them out.

Daniel


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Re: [Gimp-user] How to move image when selecting?

2009-08-17 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> When I am selecting an area with the freehand select tool, how can I
> move the image shown? I need to select an area that is larger than my
> screen size. Zooming out is not an option because I need the precision
> that zoom gives me. Thanks.

Try middle-mouse or space bar...

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[Gimp-user] How to move image when selecting?

2009-08-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
When I am selecting an area with the freehand select tool, how can I
move the image shown? I need to select an area that is larger than my
screen size. Zooming out is not an option because I need the precision
that zoom gives me. Thanks.

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