[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] The GIMP Foundation
Nathan Carl Summers wrote: Is this required to be in person, or is conference call/irc/email/etc sufficient? Furthermore, is it possible for board members to be reimbursed for expenses? I can see this being a major obstacle for non-us residents otherwise. Kelly already answered the first part, but yes. If TGF has money, it's board members can be reimbursed for the expenses of attending a meeting (including phone bills, even), without destroying it's non-profit status. -- Dan ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] The GIMP Foundation
Hi all, Sven Neumann wrote: Also, so far the FSF has done a great job at funding our developer conferences. So we should really have good reasons to form our own foundation since I don't expect the FSF to grant any more fundings as soon as The GIMP Foundation has been created. This is not a vote against the TGF; it's just something to keep in mind... I don't see why this should be the case, unless we have a sufficient revenu stream to fund ourselves. In any case, to have any revenu at all we need an organisation and a bank account, since a private individual accepting donations for a non-existent organisation isn't very professional or reassuring, never mind the fact that it opens up, as Dan said, channels of liability for the individual involved. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] The GIMP Foundation
Here is an example of other OS project foundation, which works. Just to know. http://firebird.sourceforge.net/ff/foundation/ Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: Hello, First of all I'd like to thank Daniel for putting a lot of work into investigating what needs to be done in order to launch The GIMP Foundation. On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 15:58, Daniel Rogers wrote: THINGS TO BE DECIDED [snip] 1. Will TGF have members? I am talking about members with voting privledges, like I described above. (my vote is yes, btw) Yes, if we decide to form TGF I believe we should allow the foundation to have members. 2. Should the membership be paid? (my vote is yes, for like $50 a year or some toher small amount. It helps for tax purposes). How does paid membership help for tax purposes? What exactly will the benefit of paid membership be? 3. Should the membership have additional rights? Such as...? Sincerely, Brix -- With respect Alexander Rabtchevich ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] The GIMP Foundation
Hello, First of all I'd like to thank Daniel for putting a lot of work into investigating what needs to be done in order to launch The GIMP Foundation. On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 15:58, Daniel Rogers wrote: > THINGS TO BE DECIDED [snip] > 1. Will TGF have members? I am talking about members with voting > privledges, like I described above. (my vote is yes, btw) Yes, if we decide to form TGF I believe we should allow the foundation to have members. > 2. Should the membership be paid? (my vote is yes, for like $50 a > year or some toher small amount. It helps for tax purposes). How does paid membership help for tax purposes? What exactly will the benefit of paid membership be? > 3. Should the membership have additional rights? Such as...? Sincerely, Brix -- Henrik Brix Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] The GIMP Foundation
Hi, Nathan Carl Summers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In my mind one of the major reasons to have a Gimp Foundation is to put > all of our IP ducks in a row. As I've said before I don't think that > having contributors sign over copyright to TGF would be the best plan. > Instead, I would like to see the ability to give TGF power-of-attorney to > sue copyright violators in their behalf. Does IP mean what I think it means? Let's hope it doesn't because there simply is no such thing as intellectual property. Knowledge must not belong to anyone. If sueing copyright violators is the main goal, I'd rather let the Free Software Foundation do this job. It is probably in a lot better position when it should ever come to a law-suit. Also, so far the FSF has done a great job at funding our developer conferences. So we should really have good reasons to form our own foundation since I don't expect the FSF to grant any more fundings as soon as The GIMP Foundation has been created. This is not a vote against the TGF; it's just something to keep in mind... Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] The Gimp Foundation
Also, I fear my first email may have been a bit to rambling to be able to actually get my point across. What I am hoping to discover by encourging this conversation is what ways people would like to help with TGF and in what ways people would like to see TGF help them. I would also like to get any questions about TGF role, my role, and anyone elses potential role answered as completely as possible. Sticky legal questions, if posed soon enough will be something I can pass onto my lawyer. I want to get people as excited as I am about the potential that TGF has to help the GIMP. -- Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] The Gimp Foundation
Carol Spears wrote: When I looked into this sometime back, I watched the gnome foundation elections on the irc. This is probably not the best view of a foundation, however, I really wanted nothing to do with it. We don't need to structure our Foundation (or even have membership) if we don't want to. Further we can have our own rules for determining membership that may or may not have anything to do with democracy. It seems like if there is money available to aid with TheGIMP, the easier it is for the people to contact the person most involved with this area -- then the decision can be made by the person who is to do the task or what have you. I am not following what you mean here. Are you suggesting that the people most invovled in the project decide who or what gets funded? If you develop TheGIMP right now, and you get offered some money, it is difficult to give any of it back. Having a place and an easy interface to deposit money would be nice I think, and good therapy for any who received more than they gave (deep down everyone knows). Everyone knows what? Yea making it easy to provide donations would be cool. I am not certain if I am making sense (again); but no matter what is going on and all the evidence against this belief, I tend to believe more in individuals and their conscience than in "organizations". People can get and install gimp on their own. Selling a distribution is sort of like preying on the ignorant. This has happened to me, and I didn't like it. I don't want to pray on the ignorant. Selling cds would be clearly marked as a fundraiser (and probably priced as such). However, is should be possible to inform people of the fact that The Gimp is free and you don't need to buy it. -- Dan ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
