Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Gif support

2002-12-23 Thread Philippe Rousselot
but something is really a pain if you add a doctype  for html 4.01 it does 
not work anymore, only the one for 3.2 works

and then of course as ID and STYLE for DIV did not exist in version 3.2 the 
page is not anymore W3C compliant


Philippe


"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd";>





At 15:10 23/12/02 -0500, you wrote:
On Monday 23 December 2002 02:37 pm, Philippe Rousselot wrote:
> sorry
>
> I forgot it would be sent as html page
>
> go to
>
> www.utpala.net/test.html
>
>
> Philippe
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Konqueror, Konqueror with Mozilla bindings and Mozilla 1.2 all view the
page the same for me.  Everything looks to be there and everything
visible.

Patrick

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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Gif support

2002-12-23 Thread PL O'Smith
On Monday 23 December 2002 02:37 pm, Philippe Rousselot wrote:
> sorry
>
> I forgot it would be sent as html page
>
> go to
>
> www.utpala.net/test.html
>
>
> Philippe
===
Konqueror, Konqueror with Mozilla bindings and Mozilla 1.2 all view the 
page the same for me.  Everything looks to be there and everything 
visible.

Patrick

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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Gif support

2002-12-23 Thread Nigel Ridley
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:37:04 +0100
Philippe Rousselot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> sorry
> 
> I forgot it would be sent as html page
> 
> go to
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> www.utpala.net/test.html
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> 
> Philippe
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Works fine using Konquerer 3.0.4 , Mozilla 1.1 , Galeon 1.2.5 and Links
2.1pre2 with Mandrake 9.0

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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Gif support

2002-12-23 Thread Philippe Rousselot
sorry

I forgot it would be sent as html page

go to

www.utpala.net/test.html


Philippe



At 20:08 23/12/02 +0100, you wrote:

At 12:40 23/12/02 -0500, you wrote:

On 2002-12-23 many people:
>
>
Talked about png images and web browser compatibility



please try this on your browsers
the first image is a png and is visible with IE 6.0.2800 at least including
the alpha transparency. I do not know about the other versions. but it is
not visible with mozzila  1.0.1

the second is visible on both but the alpha transparency works only with
mozzila of course

Is there a way to tell the browser, if it is IE do that if it is mozzila do
this, if it is other do another thing. if possible in css and not javascript ?


Happy holiday

Philippe

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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Gif support

2002-12-23 Thread Philippe Rousselot
At 12:40 23/12/02 -0500, you wrote:

On 2002-12-23 many people:
>
>
Talked about png images and web browser compatibility



please try this on your browsers
















the first image is a png and is visible with IE 6.0.2800 at least including 
the alpha transparency. I do not know about the other versions. but it is 
not visible with mozzila  1.0.1

the second is visible on both but the alpha transparency works only with 
mozzila of course

Is there a way to tell the browser, if it is IE do that if it is mozzila do 
this, if it is other do another thing. if possible in css and not javascript ?


Happy holiday

Philippe

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[Gimp-user] Re: Gif support

2002-12-23 Thread Carol Spears
On 2002-12-23 at 0135.58 -0800, Joshua Thorin Messer typed this:
> 
> Oh, wait when you wrote "Currently browsers do not support PNG
> widely enough to use PNG instead" you might have meant "Currently
> Internet Explorer on Windows..." in which you are correct. But guess
> what? If the net is full of alpha-transparent png files, IE will
> change quickly enough. They haven't implemented this standard YET
> because everyone is so quick to bow to their unholy monopoly. So why
> does IE on Mac have perfect support for png alpha channel and gamma
> adjustment? 
> 
now that Patrick has helped me to clean up my front page, let me point
everyone again at the image there (created by lewing).

it is a transparent png.  in my experience, transparent png's are
viewable in Netscape4 and more modern Netscapes, IE, and Mozilla.  you
just have to be careful when saving it.  

this image is RGB, with the alpha channel (obviously).  the trick with
the stupid browsers is to give them a background color to use.  this is
accomplished in gimp by having your color choice set as the background
color in the gimptool box.  and the background color option in the png
save dialog toggled when saving.

that is as much as i will worry about browsers that cannot handle the
free file format.  so, if i ever use a multicolored background to a web
page, i will give the poor clueless blokes a nice solid color and not
use gif.  

unless i want an animation that works 

i saved lewings image with #cc as the background color.  i still saw
some edges on some IE's. 

the css sucks on netscape4 -- i don't want to talk about that though.

good luck with these issues!
carol

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