[Gimp-user] Whither CMYK?
About once a year I ask about a capability to output a file from Gimp in pdf format and the CMYK color model. In addition it would be nice if this output was in the PDF X/1-a:2001 format, to satisfy certain fussy printers. I know there are external converters like ImageMagick. It would however be nice if after all these years Gimp catered to the needs of the printing industry. -- John Culleton Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Whither CMYK?
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:27 PM, john Culleton wrote: About once a year I ask about a capability to output a file from Gimp in pdf format and the CMYK color model. In addition it would be nice if this output was in the PDF X/1-a:2001 format, to satisfy certain fussy printers. I know there are external converters like ImageMagick. It would however be nice if after all these years Gimp catered to the needs of the printing industry. GIMP only got PDF exporting in upcoming v2.8. This exporter uses Cairo. Cairo doesn't support CMYk and spot colors. Therefore requesting CMYK PDF exporting will start making sense only after Cairo gets support for CMYK and spot colors. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Whither CMYK?
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 23:38:20 +0400 Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:27 PM, john Culleton wrote: About once a year I ask about a capability to output a file from Gimp in pdf format and the CMYK color model. In addition it would be nice if this output was in the PDF X/1-a:2001 format, to satisfy certain fussy printers. I know there are external converters like ImageMagick. It would however be nice if after all these years Gimp catered to the needs of the printing industry. GIMP only got PDF exporting in upcoming v2.8. This exporter uses Cairo. Cairo doesn't support CMYk and spot colors. Therefore requesting CMYK PDF exporting will start making sense only after Cairo gets support for CMYK and spot colors. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user I am reminded of my old sergeant in Korea who told me: Young soldier, don't tell me why you can't do it---tell me how you did it. Scribus does CMYK. Scribus also uses Cairo. If Gimp ever hopes to compete on an even keel with PhotoShop or even Scribus it should offer CMYK output too. It is an absolute requirement for printed output. While we are on the topic of outputs, for years the PostScript output from Gimp has had default X and Y offset values of 5mm. The default should be zero of course. I used to go in and patch the source code for Gimp to zero out the offset defaults. Now I don't bother any more. -- John Culleton Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Whither CMYK?
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:19 AM, john Culleton wrote: GIMP only got PDF exporting in upcoming v2.8. This exporter uses Cairo. Cairo doesn't support CMYk and spot colors. Therefore requesting CMYK PDF exporting will start making sense only after Cairo gets support for CMYK and spot colors. I am reminded of my old sergeant in Korea who told me: Young soldier, don't tell me why you can't do it---tell me how you did it. Scribus does CMYK. Scribus also uses Cairo. Scribus doesn't use Cairo for PDF output, it uses its own custom library. It was ever so. Cairo is used only for display output. If Gimp ever hopes to compete on an even keel with PhotoShop or even Scribus it should offer CMYK output too. It is an absolute requirement for printed output. As software GIMP isn't defined by its developers through competition against any other software. Hence GIMP dosn't aim to compete against anything else, it aims to suit the needs of professionals. While we are on the topic of outputs, for years the PostScript output from Gimp has had default X and Y offset values of 5mm. The default should be zero of course. I used to go in and patch the source code for Gimp to zero out the offset defaults. Now I don't bother any more. The trick was to report it and, since you already have the patch, attach it to your report. Please don't expect developers to gain a long distance control over your mind and scan it for complants on GIMP :) Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Whither CMYK?
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:31:13 +0400 Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: As software GIMP isn't defined by its developers through competition against any other software. Hence GIMP dosn't aim to compete against anything else, it aims to suit the needs of professionals. Understood. Professionals in the world of the printed word need CMYK. -- John Culleton Wexford Press Create Book Covers with Scribus http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
