Re: Comic Book retro style dots [Re: [Gimp-user] Camera to Comic Book]
Hi, Alan and Sven, thanks for the help. On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 2:20 AM, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are probably still using GIMP 2.0 then. Yes! 2.0.5. I did downloaded some dependencies for 2.2.6 and will now download any dependencies for 2.2.7 that differ from 2.2.6. As a learning task, I want to install Gimp from source-tarballs including all the dependencies under my home directory. Yes, I should have searched appropriate resources before posting my query! I am sorry! On 6/1/05, Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As you probably have arleady been told you should upgrade to Gimp 2.2 - Alan Yes. Thank you. Best regards Asif ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: Comic Book retro style dots [Re: [Gimp-user] Camera to Comic Book]
Hi, Asif Lodhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't have Cartoon under my Filter/Artistic menu entry. I will find it in the gimp plug-in registry. If it's not in the plugin registry then please tell me where I can find it. You are probably still using GIMP 2.0 then. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Comic Book retro style dots [Re: [Gimp-user] Camera to Comic Book]
The more detail you provide in your question the better chance you have of getting exactly the answer you want. If you want an effect like that seen in the Rhino picture you need to learn about Halftones, which is very much retro comic book style as opposed to some of the other simplrer more straighforward Cartoon effects like: Filters, Artistic, Cartoon... The wikipedia page isn't a bad place to start if you want to learn more about Halftones: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halftone There is also a plugin for the gimp that can achieve this effect but it was confusingly called Newsprint. The Newsprint plugin failed to mention the term Halftone in the short description so even when I knew what I was looking for it still took me ages to actually find the gimp version. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301201 Thanks to Michael Natter the next version of the gimp Plugin Browser has a more flexible search tool which will hopefully make things easier to find in future but I still think the Newsprint plugin could benefit from an overhaul/rename/improved documentation. Here's an example from the RedHat Getting started guide which uses the Newsprint plugin http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/step-guide/s1-images-gimp.html Gimp User Manual, examples of Plugins including an example of Newsprint http://www.mhatt.aps.anl.gov/dohn/software/gimp/GUMC/#918427 A GUG tutorial that makes various text effects using the Newsprint plugin http://gug.sunsite.dk/tutorials/tomcat2/ Sincerely Alan Horkan Inkscape http://inkscape.org Open Clip Art http://OpenClipArt.org Dia http://gnome.org/projects/dia/ On Sun, 29 May 2005, Donncha O Caoimh wrote: Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 00:04:34 +0100 From: Donncha O Caoimh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jad Madi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Camera to Comic Book Here's a method I came across. Works quite well for certain photos... http://blogs.linux.ie/xeer/2004/10/01/cartoonizing-photos-with-the-gimp/ Donncha. Jad Madi wrote: http://www.flickr.com/groups_topic.gne?id=30241 On 5/28/05, Jad Madi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any idea how to apply camera to comic book technique with gimp? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: Comic Book retro style dots [Re: [Gimp-user] Camera to Comic Book]
I really like this technique! Besides the mentioned Newsprint filter there's Gimp's own Filters/Artistic/Cartoon which can help a lot with the black parts. Edge detection on a desaturated version of the layer can also help with delineating the contours The link that Jad Madi supplied also referenced the original Photoshop tutorial at http://www.macmerc.com/sections.php?op=viewarticleartid=209page=1 Some of the methods that are used must be done differently in Gimp, but apart from that it's the same moves. Admittedly I can't get my attempts to turn out as nice as theirs. 1) The crosshatching technique in the dark areas is very essential to this. I'm sure real Gimp-wizzes can achieve spectacular results with the GIMPressionist or whatever but I'm a novice at that. .. New layer .. Drag the pattern 'Stripes 48x48' onto the layer .. Filters/Map/Displace: In X and Y displace source menuboxes choose the original layer .. Add layer mask to the layer which should be distorted now (right click on the layer in the layer menu .. Copy original layer (select layer, Ctrl+C) and paste to the mask (left click on mask, Ctrl-X, Ctrl-H) .. Apply Curves to the mask (Layer/Color/Curves). Set the curve to something like this: `\_ or ``|__ 2) He often uses a combination of Photoshop's Threshold (for making something black-white) and a Diffuse filter which does anisotropic filtering. I can only guess what it does as I don't have Photoshop, but I think that Diffuse+anisotropic == Filters/Noise/Spread with a bit of antialiasing to soften up the hard threshold. You should get the same effect by copying the layer to a new image, double the size, applying Spread, downscaling with Cubic interpolation and copying back again. Anybody who knows a better technique? 3) His Filter/Artistic/Poster Edges is somewhat of a riddle to me, especially since he sets Edge Thickness and Edge Intensity to 0. 4) Then comes my biggest problem: He uses Filter/Artistic/Cutout which has it's closest sibling in Gimp's Image/Mode/Indexed (applyed to a copy of the layer - set dithering to None, not Floyd-Steinberg, and a low color count) or perhaps Layers/Colors/Posterize. HOWEVER this renders very noisy borders between color bands. How to simplify the borders is beyond me, unless one does a Filters/Blur/Gaussian Blur first, but is that good? Perhaps use Filters/Noise/Spread a bit to loosen up on the sharp color areas 5) He uses the original layer with blend-mode 'Color' for changing the colors of his posterized layer. I don't think that Gimp and Photoshop uses the same blend-scheme because he recommends changing both the saturation and lightness of the color-layer for cartoonish style. Nothing happens in Gimp when I change the layers saturation. But making a second layer with mode set to 'Saturate' does somewhat the same. That's what I can think of right know.. Regards Centipede On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 16:44 +0100, Alan Horkan wrote: The more detail you provide in your question the better chance you have of getting exactly the answer you want. If you want an effect like that seen in the Rhino picture you need to learn about Halftones, which is very much retro comic book style as opposed to some of the other simplrer more straighforward Cartoon effects like: Filters, Artistic, Cartoon... The wikipedia page isn't a bad place to start if you want to learn more about Halftones: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halftone There is also a plugin for the gimp that can achieve this effect but it was confusingly called Newsprint. The Newsprint plugin failed to mention the term Halftone in the short description so even when I knew what I was looking for it still took me ages to actually find the gimp version. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301201 Thanks to Michael Natter the next version of the gimp Plugin Browser has a more flexible search tool which will hopefully make things easier to find in future but I still think the Newsprint plugin could benefit from an overhaul/rename/improved documentation. Here's an example from the RedHat Getting started guide which uses the Newsprint plugin http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/step-guide/s1-images-gimp.html Gimp User Manual, examples of Plugins including an example of Newsprint http://www.mhatt.aps.anl.gov/dohn/software/gimp/GUMC/#918427 A GUG tutorial that makes various text effects using the Newsprint plugin http://gug.sunsite.dk/tutorials/tomcat2/ Sincerely Alan Horkan Inkscape http://inkscape.org Open Clip Art http://OpenClipArt.org Dia http://gnome.org/projects/dia/ On Sun, 29 May 2005, Donncha O Caoimh wrote: Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 00:04:34 +0100 From: Donncha O Caoimh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jad Madi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Camera to Comic Book Here's a method I came across. Works quite well for certain photos... http
Re: Comic Book retro style dots [Re: [Gimp-user] Camera to Comic Book]
Oups, Alan already mentioned the Cartoon filter :) On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 16:44 +0100, Alan Horkan wrote: The more detail you provide in your question the better chance you have of getting exactly the answer you want. If you want an effect like that seen in the Rhino picture you need to learn about Halftones, which is very much retro comic book style as opposed to some of the other simplrer more straighforward Cartoon effects like: Filters, Artistic, Cartoon... ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: Comic Book retro style dots [Re: [Gimp-user] Camera to Comic Book]
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 16:44:59 +0100 (BST) From: Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: Comic Book retro style dots [Re: [Gimp-user] Camera to Comic Book] The more detail you provide in your question the better chance you have of getting exactly the answer you want. If you want an effect like that seen in the Rhino picture you need to learn about Halftones, which is very much retro comic book style as opposed to some of the other simplrer more straighforward Cartoon effects like: Filters, Artistic, Cartoon... I don't have Cartoon under my Filter/Artistic menu entry. I will find it in the gimp plug-in registry. If it's not in the plugin registry then please tell me where I can find it. Best regards Asif ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: Comic Book retro style dots [Re: [Gimp-user] Camera to Comic Book]
On Sun, 29 May 2005, Asif Lodhi wrote: Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 16:44:59 +0100 (BST) From: Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: Comic Book retro style dots [Re: [Gimp-user] Camera to Comic Book] The more detail you provide in your question the better chance you have of getting exactly the answer you want. If you want an effect like that seen in the Rhino picture you need to learn about Halftones, which is very much retro comic book style as opposed to some of the other simplrer more straighforward Cartoon effects like: Filters, Artistic, Cartoon... I don't have Cartoon under my Filter/Artistic menu entry. I will find it in the gimp plug-in registry. If it's not in the plugin registry then please tell me where I can find it. Well, at a guess I would say that if it's not there it hasn't been built. When you built it, did you read the configure output to see what was not being built, and why? Owen ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Camera to Comic Book
Here's a method I came across. Works quite well for certain photos... http://blogs.linux.ie/xeer/2004/10/01/cartoonizing-photos-with-the-gimp/ Donncha. Jad Madi wrote: http://www.flickr.com/groups_topic.gne?id=30241 On 5/28/05, Jad Madi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any idea how to apply camera to comic book technique with gimp? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
