Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp update, script-fu and other problem

2008-12-09 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 20:16 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Well, there is no chance to help. I just have to change or modify 
> some fixed behaviours. It will be easier to understand if U will 
> know, that last 5 years I made about 30'000 pictures and maybe 
> 100'000 simple operations. I REMEMBER that "Ok" button is in 
> Right/Down Corner.

The button order follows the system preferences (since GIMP 2.4). The UI
designers of your operating system have chosen to place the confirmative
button leftmost. GIMP, or rather GTK+, follows this preference and
places dialog buttons according to the rules that all applications on
your system should obey. You could of course change this by setting the
"gtk-alternative-button-order" property in your gtkrc.

> U R Right. But old guys (me?) sometimes are not quick and clever 
> enought to follow all changes.

That's why we have release notes with every major release:

  http://gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.4.html
  http://gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.6.html


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp update, script-fu and other problem

2008-12-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chris Mohler said the following on 2008-12-09 19:25:
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Adam Tkocz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...]>
>> Download GIMP 2.6.3 (no GTK needed) and... disaster.
>> 1) Open existing jpg image. Image is hidden behind current window,
>> lot of clicking to show image. Unbelievable...
> 
> As mentioned before, change the preferences - or just press "tab" to
> hide the dialogs when you're not using them.

Yes, I applied John's advice and it seems OK. But it is not dialog 
matter, but Windows Explorer window (file list in folder). Maybe 
tomorrow I will be able to re-call the problem and make screenshot 
wich will explain it better than my poor english.

>> 2) I make some corrections to colour, geometry, croping. I think
>> they change layout off buttons in some dialogs - before button "OK"
>> was always in right/down corner, "Cancel" was next... like here:
>> http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/pl/gimp-tool-levels.html. OK, lets say I
>> should read button description before hit.
> 
> I did not notice this either - but "Alt-O" should confirm most dialogs.

Alt-0 (or sometimes Enter) when U use keybord to confirm. In some 
cases it is faster to use keybord, in some cases is faster to use 
mouse. But it is not big matter. I just wonder why? Why somebody 
change the buttons layout. Leaving buttons untouched costs nothing, 
so why did they put so big time to change the laayout?

>> 3) I'm ready to finish and save a job. Apply my Script-Fu
>> (flatten image, resolution, sharpen) and... My script doesnt work!
> 
> Yes - there have been changes - if you post your script-fu here,
> someone might help you update it.

OK, thanks. Tomorrow I will check update info, than I post my 
script-fu here and ask some question.


A.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp update, script-fu and other problem

2008-12-09 Thread a...@storm
John Coppens said the following on 2008-12-09 17:35:
> On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:39:38 +0100
> Adam Tkocz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> 1) Open existing jpg image. Image is hidden behind current window,
>> lot of clicking to show image. Unbelievable...

> Try to go to Edit | Preferences (not File | Preferences - somewhat
> confusing) and change Window Manager Hints to 'normal window'. But I do
> believe there is an issue with the windows under Windows.

Well, thx John. I've just tried some "combination" and the problem 
seems to be solved. I will be sure tomorrow at the office - at home 
I try it on images on local HD. The problem appeared at the office, 
where I usually work on images saved to linux server volumes.
But now I have new hope and some "how to" directions :)

>> 2) I make some corrections to colour, geometry, croping. I think
>> they change layout off buttons in some dialogs - before button "OK"
>> was always in right/down corner, "Cancel" was next... like here:
>> http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/pl/gimp-tool-levels.html. OK, lets say I
>> should read button description before hit.
> 
> No help here. I didn't feel any difference...

Well, there is no chance to help. I just have to change or modify 
some fixed behaviours. It will be easier to understand if U will 
know, that last 5 years I made about 30'000 pictures and maybe 
100'000 simple operations. I REMEMBER that "Ok" button is in 
Right/Down Corner. In G 2.6.3 in this corner is "Cancel" button. 
So... after applying levels, curves, resolution or so... I just 
confirm operation by moving pointer over the right/down corner 
button, click and... "play it again, Sam" :D

But trully it is not big matter. After next 5 years I will move 
mouse to another button, and they will back to "old config" ;)

>> 3) I'm ready to finish and save a job. Apply my Script-Fu
>> (flatten image, resolution, sharpen) and... My script doesnt work!
> 
> There was a larger change in the way Sript-Fu works between 2.2.x and
> 2.4.x. I had to rework my scripts too - the changes aren't too
> complicated to add. Check this:
> 
> http://gimp.org/docs/script-fu-update.html

Yeah, this is proper info. Thanks. I need few days to refresh my 
knowledge about script-fu, but I see that there is important 
difference in using "let" operator and generally they change 
variables settings. I need one day and fresh brain and maybe I will 
manage with it. Today is late here and... I'm tired a bit.

> BTW, going back to (or staying with) and older version is hardly a threat.
> You're just missing out on all the great new things the GIMP people work
> hard to add.

U R Right. But old guys (me?) sometimes are not quick and clever 
enought to follow all changes.

Anyway. Thanks for really BIG help.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp update, script-fu and other problem

2008-12-09 Thread Chris Mohler
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Adam Tkocz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]>
> Download GIMP 2.6.3 (no GTK needed) and... disaster.
> 1) Open existing jpg image. Image is hidden behind current window,
> lot of clicking to show image. Unbelievable...

As mentioned before, change the preferences - or just press "tab" to
hide the dialogs when you're not using them.

> 2) I make some corrections to colour, geometry, croping. I think
> they change layout off buttons in some dialogs - before button "OK"
> was always in right/down corner, "Cancel" was next... like here:
> http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/pl/gimp-tool-levels.html. OK, lets say I
> should read button description before hit.

I did not notice this either - but "Alt-O" should confirm most dialogs.

> 3) I'm ready to finish and save a job. Apply my Script-Fu
> (flatten image, resolution, sharpen) and... My script doesnt work!

Yes - there have been changes - if you post your script-fu here,
someone might help you update it.

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp update, script-fu and other problem

2008-12-09 Thread John Coppens
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:39:38 +0100
Adam Tkocz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 1) Open existing jpg image. Image is hidden behind current window,
> lot of clicking to show image. Unbelievable...

Try to go to Edit | Preferences (not File | Preferences - somewhat
confusing) and change Window Manager Hints to 'normal window'. But I do
believe there is an issue with the windows under Windows.

> 2) I make some corrections to colour, geometry, croping. I think
> they change layout off buttons in some dialogs - before button "OK"
> was always in right/down corner, "Cancel" was next... like here:
> http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/pl/gimp-tool-levels.html. OK, lets say I
> should read button description before hit.

No help here. I didn't feel any difference...

> 3) I'm ready to finish and save a job. Apply my Script-Fu
> (flatten image, resolution, sharpen) and... My script doesnt work!

There was a larger change in the way Sript-Fu works between 2.2.x and
2.4.x. I had to rework my scripts too - the changes aren't too
complicated to add. Check this:

http://gimp.org/docs/script-fu-update.html

BTW, going back to (or staying with) and older version is hardly a threat.
You're just missing out on all the great new things the GIMP people work
hard to add.

John
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