Re: [Gimp-user] Losing precision

2002-05-30 Thread Jon Winters

On Thu, 30 May 2002, John Culleton wrote:

> On Thursday 30 May 2002 12:12 pm, you wrote:
> > Scale the image and pay no attention to the DPI.  The actual width and
> > height in pixels is what the web browser renders.  No control over the DPI
> > of the users desktop... must use absolute pixels!  :-)
>
> However, I am conerned about load time and file size. I want to degrade
> the jpeg down to approx. 75dpi.  So how do I measure that?

Hi,

I've prepared a web page with two images.  One is ONE dpi and  the other
is set to ONE THOUSAND dpi.  Both images are 100x100 pixels.

They will appear identical next to each other in the web browser.
They will also be the exact same file size and they will take the same
amount of time to load.

Here it is:
http://www.obscurasite.com/jon/images/dpi/demo.html

Note: Both files were saved with the exact same amount of JPEG
compression.  If I wanted to make them load faster I could have boosted
the compression to get a smaller file size but the quality would have
suffered.  (gimp shows you the damage as you adjust the amount of
compression... find the sweet spot and you're golden)

Now go tell all your friends... In the crazy world of html
dpi doesn't matter! :-)
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Re: [Gimp-user] Losing precision

2002-05-30 Thread Jon Winters

On 30 May 2002, Roland Roberts wrote:

> If you are putting it on the web, ignore DPI.  You don't care about
> DPI, you care about dimensions.  DPI will have *no* effect on what you
> see for a web image.

I used to have a web page to illustrate this.  I had two 72x72 pixel
images and one was 1dpi and the other was 1000dpi when you opened them in
photoshop.

In the web browser, side by side, they were identical.  :-)

I had to make the web page to settle an arguement.

I noticed the guy asking the question worked in a pre-press capacity...
over in that world dpi is important so I can understand him asking.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Losing precision

2002-05-30 Thread Roland Roberts

> "John" == John Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

John> I have a JPEG that was scanned at say 300dpi. I reduce it in
John> size in Gimp. Now the dpi shoots up in proportion. I want to
John> use the reduced image on a web page where anything over
John> 75dpi is overkill. I know I can scale back the precision
John> when I save the file but what is the relationship if any
John> between the percentages shown on the save dialogue and the
John> dpi of the saved image?

If you are putting it on the web, ignore DPI.  You don't care about
DPI, you care about dimensions.  DPI will have *no* effect on what you
see for a web image.

roland
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