Re: [Gimp-user] Porting to Windows Environment

2004-02-24 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Where's the gimp-win list these days?

As stated in GIMP's README file and at
http://www.gimp.org/mailing_list.html, the gimp-win-users mailing-list
can be found at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gimpwin-users/.

I am still arguing that the lists should be merged; would be
interesting to hear what the subscribers of gimp-user think about
this...


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Re: [Gimp-user] Porting to Windows Environment

2004-02-24 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Eric,

Eric Pierce wrote:
If you're asked constantly (he is on the Gimp-win mailing list), I would
guess it may add a smidge of tension to the everyday.
Where's the gimp-win list these days?

Cheers,
Dave.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Porting to Windows Environment

2004-02-24 Thread Eric Pierce
> Sven Neumann wrote:
>> IMO it's not very nice to ask for a timeframe for the availability of
>> the installer package. By providing you this package, Jernej is doing
>> you a favor on a voluntary basis. You shouldn't put him under pressure
>> by asking for a time frame. That is about as bad (or maybe even worse)
>> as asking the developers to set a date for the 2.0.0 release.
>
> I don't think that asking necessarily puts pressure on anyone.

If you're asked constantly (he is on the Gimp-win mailing list), I would
guess it may add a smidge of tension to the everyday.

>> If you
>> need the Win32 installer at a certain point in time, you can easily
>> create it yourself.
>
> For a very unusual definition of "easily". Building the GIMP on Win32 is
> not that easy.
Not sure if this is easy or not.  I haven't had a chance to setup the
build environment in Win, but...
http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/HowToCompileGimp/MicrosoftWindows

Eric Pierce
Ps. Jernej went skiing!


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Re: [Gimp-user] Porting to Windows Environment

2004-02-24 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Sven,

Sven Neumann wrote:
IMO it's not very nice to ask for a timeframe for the availability of
the installer package. By providing you this package, Jernej is doing
you a favor on a voluntary basis. You shouldn't put him under pressure
by asking for a time frame. That is about as bad (or maybe even worse)
as asking the developers to set a date for the 2.0.0 release. 
I don't think that asking necessarily puts pressure on anyone.

If you
need the Win32 installer at a certain point in time, you can easily
create it yourself.
For a very unusual definition of "easily". Building the GIMP on Win32 is 
not that easy.

Cheers,
Dave.
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RE: [Gimp-user] Porting to Windows Environment

2004-02-24 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

"McNamara, Paul (P.S.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Thanks Dave (and Sven who replied the same about the source code)
> 
> It was the availability of the installer packages that I was really
> asking about - maybe Jernej could reply on that one.

IMO it's not very nice to ask for a timeframe for the availability of
the installer package. By providing you this package, Jernej is doing
you a favor on a voluntary basis. You shouldn't put him under pressure
by asking for a time frame. That is about as bad (or maybe even worse)
as asking the developers to set a date for the 2.0.0 release. If you
need the Win32 installer at a certain point in time, you can easily
create it yourself.


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RE: [Gimp-user] Porting to Windows Environment

2004-02-24 Thread McNamara, Paul (P.S.)
Thanks Dave (and Sven who replied the same about the source code)

It was the availability of the installer packages that I was really asking about - 
maybe Jernej could reply on that one.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Porting to Windows Environment

2004-02-24 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Paul,

McNamara, Paul (P.S.) wrote:
A simple question about the release of version 2.0.  Approximately 
how long after the UNIX version will the Windows version be available?
As of about 18 months ago, the exact same source code builds on Win32 
and on Linux/unix/MacOS X. So when the GIMP is released, the source code 
for all versions will be available.

However, up to this point, the project has never prepared "official" 
binaries for any platform. All GIMP binaries are unofficial - even those 
for Linux. Some convenience files are included in CVS (for example, the 
gimp.spec for RedHat builds), but binary versions become available as 
the various maintainers/packagers make them available.

The Windows port maintainer is Tor Lillqvist, and the Win32 installer 
packages are provided by Jernej Simoncic. Perhaps Tor and Jernej could 
say if they plan to make Windows binaries directly after the 2.0 release 
- recently releases have been made available within a week of the source 
release, apart from for pre3, which still isn't available as an installer.

Hope this answers your question,
Dave.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Porting to Windows Environment

2004-02-24 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

"McNamara, Paul (P.S.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> A simple question about the release of version 2.0.  Approximately
> how long after the UNIX version will the Windows version be
> available?

At the same moment, simply because there is no Windows or UNIX
version. The very same source code compiles on Win32 and various
flavours of UNIX. Since we only do source code releases, GIMP releases
are always good for all supported platforms at the same time.


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