Re: [Gimp-user] Re: missing pixels

2005-02-10 Thread Geoffrey
Olivier Ripoll wrote:
Well, think as a human being (not a coder, nor an artist). What do you 
call transparent in life ? The windows of your house or office, be they 
perfectly clean, dirty or tainted are "transparent". You feel 
intuitively that transparency is not a binary property, it is a 
continuum of states. You would never qualified a door opening of 
"opaque" and "transparent", but you use "open" and "closed".
My problem with that thought process is that I think of transparent, 
translucent and opaque. Transparent is the unreachable clarity of 
perfectly 'invisible.'  Seeing through something as if it's not there. 
Translucent is that characteristic where what you're looking through 
'affects' what you're looking at, not distorting it, but reducing the 
clarity.  Opaque is just that, can't see anything behind it.

I never considered anything like 'partial transparency' until I started 
playing with GIMP.  Seems I recognize that functionality in some cases, 
but not others.  For example, I do recall playing with the transparent 
slider for a layer, knowing full well that it provides a % of 
transparency.  That makes more sense now, after my confusing problems 
with selection.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: missing pixels

2005-02-10 Thread Geoffrey
William Skaggs wrote:
For people who would be interesting in learning a bit more about
this topic, it might be worth taking a look at the related help
docs,
http://docs.gimp.org/en/ch02s04s04.html
and
http://docs.gimp.org/en/ch04s03s05.html
Thanks for the links.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: missing pixels

2005-02-09 Thread William Skaggs


For people who would be interesting in learning a bit more about
this topic, it might be worth taking a look at the related help
docs,

http://docs.gimp.org/en/ch02s04s04.html

and

http://docs.gimp.org/en/ch04s03s05.html

Best,
  -- Bill
 

 
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RE: [Gimp-user] Re: missing pixels

2005-02-09 Thread Gregbair
 

> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Geoffrey
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> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Re: missing pixels
> 
> Olivier Ripoll wrote:
> 
> > You misunderstood. A portion of the "value" (RGBA) of the pixel is 
> > selected, not a portion of the pixel geometry. Think of it like a 
> > phantom (ghost, whatever you call it): The shape of the 
> human body is 
> > totally preserved, but you can see through it.
> 
> Still, I didn't know you could have a partially transparent 
> pixel.  I thought transparency was at the pixel level, that 
> is either a pixel was transparent, or it was not.  Then 
> again, I've a coder, not an artist or image expert.
> 
No.  RGB images have another channel - Alpha - that determines transparency.
However, not many image formats use the alpha channel (PNG, TIFF, PSD, and
XCF being the only ones I know of).  GIF kinda uses it, but it does have
that binary behavior you're talking about.

Greg

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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: missing pixels

2005-02-09 Thread Geoffrey
Olivier Ripoll wrote:
You misunderstood. A portion of the "value" (RGBA) of the pixel is 
selected, not a portion of the pixel geometry. Think of it like a 
phantom (ghost, whatever you call it): The shape of the human body is 
totally preserved, but you can see through it.
Still, I didn't know you could have a partially transparent pixel.  I 
thought transparency was at the pixel level, that is either a pixel was 
transparent, or it was not.  Then again, I've a coder, not an artist or 
image expert.

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