Re: how to edit tiffs without zuking up the alpha

2000-06-16 Thread Jonathan E. Paton

Your aim was to use the GIMP to crop the pictures, but did you try anything else?  I 
tried some
color related operations (color compose) and it returned "Compose: Image is not a gray 
image
(bbp=3)".  The bbp bit means bits per pixel (I think), and don't know if this has any 
real bearing
on what your doing.

I tried some other color operations, most return " operates only on RGB 
color
drawables.  To me this suggests the GIMP doesn't like something about these files, 
rather than a
problem when saving.

You must tell me what the image is supposed to be, it doesn't look very recognisable 
to me.

My knowledge of the GIMP is not very deep, I'm not an image artist, developer or 
anything - I just
like playing with the GIMP occasionally.  Dave, you obviously know more than me but I 
hope my
suggestions help guide you in the right direction.

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Re: how to edit tiffs without zuking up the alpha

2000-06-16 Thread Dave Morse

Amy writes:
 > Is the file using cmyk color?  The Gimp cannot open files saved with CMYK.

tiffinfo says "Photometric Interpretation: RGB color".  I guess we can
trust that




Re: how to edit tiffs without zuking up the alpha

2000-06-16 Thread Amy

Is the file using cmyk color?  The Gimp cannot open files saved with CMYK.


On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Jonathan E. Paton wrote:

> I tried downloading the two files to play with them.  The second file 'after.tiff' 
>is fine, but
> opening 'before.tiff' using the gimp gives errors - about unknown data segments.  
>This is probably
> because Photoshop is using a newer(or non-standard) file format than the GIMP.
> 
> The file itself was created using Photoshop version 5.  I tried using GIMP version 
>1.1.23 to open
> it, what version is Dave using?
> 
> Dave Morse requested all repies are CC'd to him, his address is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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Re: how to edit tiffs without zuking up the alpha

2000-06-16 Thread Dave Morse

 > I tried downloading the two files to play with them.  The second file
 > 'after.tiff' is fine, but opening 'before.tiff' using the gimp gives
 > errors - about unknown data segments.  This is probably because
 > Photoshop is using a newer(or non-standard) file format than the GIMP.
 > 
 > The file itself was created using Photoshop version 5.  I tried using
 > GIMP version 1.1.23 to open it, what version is Dave using?
 > 
 > Dave Morse requested all repies are CC'd to him, his address is:
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Gimp version 1.1.22.

If you really can't load it at all, try 
  http://24.16.52.60/~dm/before.xcf
This seems identical to what I get in memory after loading 
  http://24.16.52.60/~dm/before.tif

All my gnuish utilities complain slightly about before.tif:

  /net/home/dm/public_html/before.tif: Warning, incorrect count for field 
"MinSampleValue" (1, expecting 4); tag ignored.
  /net/home/dm/public_html/before.tif: Warning, incorrect count for field 
"MaxSampleValue" (1, expecting 4); tag ignored.

But that's it, and the image looks fine.  I have come to expect those
warnings after years of seeing it.

Hm, it is a good point that gimp-created-alphad-tiffs load with completely
different channels, appearance, etc than these photoshop tiffs.

Either Photoshop is screwing up the save, or Gimp is subtly screwing up
the load, or Gimp is screwing up the save.  How to tell which one is the
case?  



Re: how to edit tiffs without zuking up the alpha

2000-06-16 Thread Jonathan E. Paton

I tried downloading the two files to play with them.  The second file 'after.tiff' is 
fine, but
opening 'before.tiff' using the gimp gives errors - about unknown data segments.  This 
is probably
because Photoshop is using a newer(or non-standard) file format than the GIMP.

The file itself was created using Photoshop version 5.  I tried using GIMP version 
1.1.23 to open
it, what version is Dave using?

Dave Morse requested all repies are CC'd to him, his address is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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how to edit tiffs without zuking up the alpha

2000-06-16 Thread Dave Morse

Hi,
I've got tiffs created in Photoshop that I need to crop using Gimp.  They
have alpha.  If I open the up in Gimp, use the crop tool, then resave, the
next time I open them I discover that only the alpha-mask has been saved
in place of the rgb data.

before save:  http://24.16.52.60/~dm/before.tif
after save:   http://24.16.52.60/~dm/after.tif

Needless to say, this is not what I want.

How do I do what I want?

(Please CC me on replies, as I don't subscribe to gimp-user)