[GO] WSVS: The Impact of Illness and Injury on DFB's Plots]

2004-11-12 Thread evam.lofgren
When Sweet Violets Sicken: The Impact of other Other Character's Illness and 
Injury in DFB's Plots

I'm afraid this paper became even shorter than intended, as I was suddenly 
asked to work more this week and lost time for research. So I might have 
forgotten a few more examples. So, please, add them if you like. 


DFB she doesn't use illness and accidents for character building like the 
Victorians and many other early 20th C writers, but more for the
building of plots. There are few permanently delicate girls in her school 
stories: Nicola Carter in the Springdale books, and Althea Stoddart in Nancy at 
St. Bride's. There is also Alison Mellish in the historical 'Colmskirk' novel, 
The King's Curate. It's for her sake that her brother Patrick accepts the 
ministry in Kirkarlie. DFB doesn't  describe illness very much from the point 
of view of the
ailing person - but I might be wrong? 

DFB's preference for psychological problems is perhaps a little conspicious: 
Mrs Maitland in the Senior Prefect; Sylvia Drummond in Dimsie among the 
Prefects; Miss Caldwell in Nancy Returns to St.
Bride's. We might add Lena Ewell in Dimsie Carries On and April in Wild Goose 
Quest.

I won't mention the many instances even in DFB - common in many writers in all 
periods - when the death of parents or other relatives changes the situations 
of young characters, especially in the
'Colmskirk' novels. Or the men wounded in war or accidents (Peter Gilmour, 
Kenneth Orde, Miles Haydon) 

I will concentrate on a small aspect of illness important for many of DFB's 
books; how the absence of one character because of illness or an
accident may influence the situation of other characters or the plot at large. 
There are two main types: 


A: One character stepping into the place of somebody somebody absent. Type A 
may have either a positive or a negative impact on the school
as a community.


B: The absence of one character leading to difficulties in clearing up a 
mistake. 


Major Examples:

The Terra-Cotta Coat: Sylvia can't clear up her misunderstandings with Mona 
while the latter is ill with influenza. - Type B

For Mona's Sake: The death of Mona gives Daphne a chance to gradually take over 
her place as Sylvia's chum. - Type A

The Senior Prefect/Dimsie Goes to School: the Head girl Sylvia Drummond is 
absent because of a sprained knee and Daphne Maitland takes her place, until 
Sylvia returns as 'dea-ex-machina' at half term. In the same book, the former 
headmistress, Miss Darrell, must leave in order to look after an old relative, 
leaving her successor,
Miss Yorke, to face initial difficulties. The disappearance of Dimsie's mother 
is also very importance for this book. - Type A

Dimsie Moves Up: Sylvia - the accident prone - sprains her foot and Rosamund 
Garth to run for her in a cricket match; Primrose Garth's influenza gives Nita 
Tomlinson temporarily a greater influence over Primrose's chum Meg Flynn. ? 
Negative Type A

This also postpones the final reconciliation between Primrose and Meg. - Type B

Dimsie Among the Prefects: Sylvia's illness - 'neuralgia' from overwork - is 
important for the plot but a bit difficult to fit into my crude cathegories. 
Dimsie's absence from school after her
accident postpones her full information of the events at school. - Type B


That Boarding School Girl: The illness of Kathleen Hallam makes it difficult 
for Nancy?s friends to find the truth about the latter?s first term at 
St.Bride?s. - Type B  


Nancy Returns to St. Bride's: The 'Locum', Miss Warren takes over when Miss 
Caldwell has a break-down - 'brain-fewer' - Negative Type A. - This book was 
published in 1938, 6 years before Gay from China at the Chalet School!


New House Captain: Sidney Carter visits her sick younger sister, Nicola, in 
spite of the town being out of out of bounds because of the epidemic. Diana 
Stewart is isolated by mistake and Peggy Willoughby must break this isolation 
to make up their differrences. Type  B


The Best House in the School: Sidney Carter gets her chance to make good as 
games captain when Alice Craven has hurt her knee. ? Type A


Captain Anne: Nicola Carter is removed from school by her sister Sidney because 
of a weak heart, which gives Miss Marlowe a chance to
make her own favourite Selina Duncan house games captain - with disastrous 
results - until the return of Nick. - Negative Type A

As seen above, the wicked successors are only temporary: Nita, Miss Warren, 
Selina. 


Please add other examples if you like, either from DFB or other writers.

Question: Is DFB less 'Victorian' than EBD in spite of being 9 years older?

Eva Margareta

Sorry if this message comes out a bit messy, as it was sent via webmail from a 
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Re: [GO] Admin: the Augustan mean

2004-11-12 Thread Helen_A
No, its the last resort, Diane. For use very sparingly, and only when 
admin requests have been not taken seriously.

On 12 Nov 2004 at 14:15, Diane Purkiss wrote:
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 So is this the equivalent of being gated?
 
 I think it's actually the equivalent of being censored :).  I just
 hope we won't be prevented from talking about recipes and films and
 other faffle.  


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Re: [GO] Buffy

2004-11-12 Thread KAIT BESSING
I never see any titles of the Buffy episodes, so I never know where I am when 
titles are mentioned. 

(Of course, the Swedish sub-titles may cover them up, as they do all the guest 
starring names.)

I thought Tara's death was extremely sad, too. I just never saw it coming!

We're on the last season here in Sweden. There can't be many episodes to go as 
everything is falling apart.

Kait

Diane Purkiss wrote:
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 What episodes, precisely?
 
 Innocence.  And I know it's in Angel, but it's got Buffy in it: I Will
 Remember You.  And the one where Tara dies.
 
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 Diane Purkiss

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Re: [GO] Weeping over Buffy

2004-11-12 Thread KAIT BESSING
Caroline German wrote:
Jonathan's speech when presenting that daft
 umbrella at the Prom get me every time:

Is this the same Jonathan who's part of the three villains later?

 Most of us never found the time to get to know you. But that doesn't
 mean we haven't noticed you. We don't talk about it much, but it's no
 secret Sunnydale High isn't really like other schools. snip We're
 proud to say that the class of '99 has the lowest mortality rate of
 any graduating class in Sunnydale history. And we know at least part
 of that is because of you. So the senior class offers its thanks, and
 ... gives you, uh, this... It's from all of us, and it's got written
 here, Buffy Summers. Class Protector.

Thank you for quoting this! I remember being really gripped by this speech too, 
and I've been trying ever since to catch a re-run of that particular episode. 
But I've always missed it!

 TV makes me cry *way* more than books. In books, it's just Jacynth's
 Auntie's letter, really.
 
Oh yes. That sets me off too. Every time!

Kait

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Re: [GO] tearjerkers

2004-11-12 Thread KAIT BESSING
phyllgriffiths wrote:
I've sniffed over a
 couple of Jacqueline Wilson's as well but can't remember which.
 
Re Jacqueline Wilson: I've never seen any of her books, only heard of her on 
this list. 

But now Swedish TV is showing is showing a series called Girls in Love, based 
on her books. I really like it too, so I hope I can find some of her books some 
time.

Kait

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[GO] Wintle's Wonders

2004-11-12 Thread Allison Angell
   Wintle's Wonders is my favorite NS.  So much so, in
fact, that I suggest that children in my library start
with it, rather than with Ballet Shoes.  I don't think
that Wintle's Wonders is the better book - just that
it's more accessible for children today.  Rachel is a
well-drawn character, and I think Hilary is adequately
characterized.  I'm not sure that she _could_ be more
deeply characterized; she lives so much on the surface
of things that I don't think there's much below to
write about.  
   That said, I agree about Dulcie and her mother as
cardboard villains.  Certainly they appeared that way
to RachelandHilary (one of my favorite bits in the
book, that - they begin to be lumped together and
called tiresome).  The events are unlikely, but the
book is (for me, at least) a loveable bit of fluff. 
   And yes - Fancy, a shark! And him an Honourable
too! is one of NS's best lines.
   Allison (who might have to re-read tonight)
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 What do people think of Wintle's Wonders? I think
 that Rachel's 
 mistaken sense of responsibility for Hilary's
 dancing, and the 
 ways in which her reaction to her mother's death are
 misunderstood,
 are very well done. But I think that the book as a
 whole is marred
 by Streatfield's obvious distaste for the world that
 she's 
 describing. In her other books, there are lots of
 improbabilities
 of plot, but they are carried along by enthusiasm
 and by the 
 characters. In Wintle's Wonders, Rachel is a very
 good character;
 but Hilary isn't seen enough from the inside, and
 Dulcie is a bit
 pasteboard [e.g. Miranda in Curtain Up is a
 somewhat similar 
 character, but much more believable]. Also, there
 are rather too
 many dramatic fates carrying off various characters
 in the first 
 chapter; though these do provide one of the best
 lines of the 
 book, when Mrs. Wintle comments on the fate of
 Pursey's former 
 charge: Fancy, a shark! And him an Honourable too!
 
 Ann

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[GO] Feng Shui and books

2004-11-12 Thread Deborah A. Fleming
Another thing about books and Feng Shui is that the space on a shelf, at the
edge, can be considered a knife...not a good thing thing in Feng Shui.  To help
to manage that energy, books should be lined flush with the edge of a shelf,
not pushed back on the shelf with space between the edge of the shelf and the
books.

That explanation about the stagnant energy from books sort of makes sense, but
I won't part with my books, and don't really have time to do much reading.  So
I will have to regard them as sources of the energy that will fuel many flights
of fancy to worlds of the imagination, created by many different writers...when
the day arrives that I can go to all of those places!  Right now I am so
overwhelmed by my life that I wish I COULD read more, just to escape.


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RE: [GO] Feng Shui and books

2004-11-12 Thread Gareth
The true reason is slightly more prosaic - as every good librarian knows, if
you line the books up at the front of the shelves then you don't have to
dust there!

Gareth

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 Another thing about books and Feng Shui is that the space on 
 a shelf, at the edge, can be considered a knife...not a good 
 thing thing in Feng Shui.  To help to manage that energy, 
 books should be lined flush with the edge of a shelf, not 
 pushed back on the shelf with space between the edge of the 
 shelf and the books.
 

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