Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-09-08 Thread Philip Oakley
From: Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 2:33 AM [snip...] The snapshot concept is totally orthogonal from the staging area concept. Git works in snapshots, which are frozen images of how the content tree was at a certain point in time; IOW; a commit.

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-09-08 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Philip Oakley philipoak...@iee.org wrote: From: Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 2:33 AM [snip...] The snapshot concept is totally orthogonal from the staging area concept. Git works in snapshots, which are frozen

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-09-07 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:13 AM, Piotr Krukowiecki piotr.krukowie...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to point to a Dr. Dobb's article from Monday: http://www.drdobbs.com/tools/getting-started-with-git-the-fundamental/240160261?pgno=2 The author does not use the use the word index at all. Instead

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-09-07 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Drew Northup n1xim.em...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Piotr Krukowiecki piotr.krukowie...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to point to a Dr. Dobb's article from Monday:

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-09-07 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Drew Northup n1xim.em...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Piotr Krukowiecki piotr.krukowie...@gmail.com wrote: Drew Northup n1xim.em...@gmail.com napisał: I agree with Junio. This effort is better spent making the documentation clearer and more

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-09-07 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Drew Northup n1xim.em...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Drew Northup n1xim.em...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Junio C Hamano

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-09-06 Thread Ping Yin
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:08 PM, William Swanson swanson...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an appropriate description for what the high-level user does with

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-09-06 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
On 6 September 2013 08:45, Ping Yin pkufra...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:08 PM, William Swanson swanson...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-09-04 Thread William Swanson
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an appropriate description for what the high-level user does with it, and it has been agreed that 'staging area' is the best term. I realize Git

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-09-04 Thread Piotr Krukowiecki
Just wanted to point to a Dr. Dobb's article from Monday: http://www.drdobbs.com/tools/getting-started-with-git-the-fundamental/240160261?pgno=2 The author does not use the use the word index at all. Instead he writes in following way:

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-09-04 Thread Drew Northup
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Piotr Krukowiecki piotr.krukowie...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to point to a Dr. Dobb's article from Monday: http://www.drdobbs.com/tools/getting-started-with-git-the-fundamental/240160261?pgno=2 The author does not use the use the word index at all. Instead

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-09-03 Thread Drew Northup
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Piotr Krukowiecki piotr.krukowie...@gmail.com wrote: Drew Northup n1xim.em...@gmail.com napisał: I agree with Junio. This effort is better spent making the documentation clearer and more succinct. The reality is that a user needs to build a model in their mind of

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-09-03 Thread Drew Northup
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Drew Northup n1xim.em...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com wrote: Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes: It has

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-08-31 Thread René Scharfe
Am 29.08.2013 22:36, schrieb Felipe Contreras: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:03 PM, René Scharfe l@web.de wrote: If you have a --work-tree option then parseopt accepts --work as well, unless it's ambiguous, i.e. another option starts with --work, too. So you can have a descriptive, extra-long

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-08-31 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 2:46 AM, René Scharfe l@web.de wrote: Am 29.08.2013 22:36, schrieb Felipe Contreras: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:03 PM, René Scharfe l@web.de wrote: If you have a --work-tree option then parseopt accepts --work as well, unless it's ambiguous, i.e. another option

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-08-31 Thread David Aguilar
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:46 AM, René Scharfe l@web.de wrote: Am 29.08.2013 22:36, schrieb Felipe Contreras: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:03 PM, René Scharfe l@web.de wrote: If you have a --work-tree option then parseopt accepts --work as well, unless it's ambiguous, i.e. another

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-08-30 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: Again, *everyone* has agreed that index needs to be renamed, and staging area is the best option. Do I really need to go through all the discussions and list each and every person that participated in them,

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-08-30 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com wrote: IIRC, when this was discussed, many non-native speakers had trouble with the verb to stage, not just from i18n/l10n point of view.

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-08-30 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: Here are the threads once again: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/197111

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-08-30 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: Here are the threads once again:

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-08-29 Thread Junio C Hamano
Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes: It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an appropriate description for what the high-level user does with it, and it has been agreed that 'staging area' is the best term. add is the verb, not index (which is a noun

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-08-29 Thread Matthieu Moy
Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes: It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an appropriate description for what the high-level user does with it, and it has been agreed that 'staging area' is the best term. Thanks for working on this. No time for a

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-08-29 Thread Felipe Contreras
Matthieu Moy wrote: Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes: It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an appropriate description for what the high-level user does with it, and it has been agreed that 'staging area' is the best term. Thanks for working

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-08-29 Thread Matthieu Moy
Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes: Matthieu Moy wrote: These explanations make sense. I think it would be better to put part of it in commit messages, so that future contributors can git blame the doc/implem of these --stage and find them (i.e. avoid the misunderstanding

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-08-29 Thread Matthieu Moy
Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes: add an explanation in Documentation/gitstagingarea.txt or something. There's Documentation/gitcli.txt, that will need updating anyway (at the bottom, it talks about --cached and --index). -- Matthieu Moy http://www-verimag.imag.fr/~moy/ --

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-08-29 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com wrote: Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes: It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an appropriate description for what the high-level user does with it, and it has been agreed that

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-08-29 Thread René Scharfe
Am 29.08.2013 20:57, schrieb Felipe Contreras: Matthieu Moy wrote: Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes: Moreover, the --stage and --work --work alone sounds weird. At least to me, it does not immediately imply working tree. It is tempting to call the option --work-tree, but

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-08-29 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:03 PM, René Scharfe l@web.de wrote: Am 29.08.2013 20:57, schrieb Felipe Contreras: Matthieu Moy wrote: Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes: Moreover, the --stage and --work --work alone sounds weird. At least to me, it does not immediately

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-08-29 Thread Matthieu Moy
Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes: Matthieu Moy wrote: --work alone sounds weird. At least to me, it does not immediately imply working tree. It is tempting to call the option --work-tree, but git already has a global option with that name (git --work-tree=foo bar). Yes,

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-08-29 Thread Drew Northup
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com wrote: Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes: It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an appropriate description for what the high-level user does with it, and it has been agreed that

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-08-29 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Drew Northup n1xim.em...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com wrote: Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com writes: It has been discussed many times in the past that 'index' is not an appropriate description

Re: Officially start moving to the term 'staging area'

2013-08-29 Thread Piotr Krukowiecki
Drew Northup n1xim.em...@gmail.com napisał: I agree with Junio. This effort is better spent making the documentation clearer and more succinct. The reality is that a user needs to build a model in their mind of what they are doing which maps enough (completely is not required) to what is actually