Greetings to all.
I thank both Peter Burgess and Guido Sohne for starting an important
debate on development.
Is development about "replicating success" and "ensuring scarce
resources are used wisely.?"
Yes, this is happening in communities where there is no intervention
from the government or t
Dear Colleagues,
I have been following this thread with interest. And quite a lot of what
has been written conflicts considerably with my current view of how
development has to work in order to achieve sustainable success.
The underlying issue is all about value and opportunity. If there is an
op
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 02:35:55AM -0400, Peter Burgess wrote:
> Development should be about replicating success and ensuring that the
> scarce resources are used most wisely to achieve the greatest results.
> But that rarely happens. There is little "knowledge" used in the
> management of develop
In a message dated 6/25/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Does anyone know if there are computer donation programmes that go
> beyond one-off donations? What if after a while people using donated
> computers need upgrading and/or replacement? Who takes responsibility
> for meeting with the created
Udit Chaudhuri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Perhaps the only way this would work is to:
>
> 1 Collect computers used and donated in the command area itself, say
> executives and offices of international companies and other
> organisations who have imported the computers 3-4 years ago and are
> up
At 9:46 PM +0100 25/06/2003, Tony Roberts wrote:
> What we need to do is make an appropriate distinction between dumping
> and providing quality, fully refurbished, Pentium PCs into contexts
> where the appropriate capacity is already in place to make productive
> use of them. This means that secu
Here in Nunavut, Canada
we take donated computers and the young folks in our high schools are
shown how to check and recondition them and then they are distributed to
the schools or the Internet Access points in the communities...
George Lessard, Media Specialist
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Moderates th
To all who donate computers to developing countries (or local
intermediaries who solicit donations):
Have you ever considered simply sending the cash instead, with the final
recipient (not the local intermediary) deciding how to spend the cash
themselves? If the computers are already zero value (t
Simon Woodside wrote:
> What about importing to small businesses instead? instead of donating
> the computers, provide them at cost to small business owners who can
> resell them and provide support services?
Hi All,
We are a small Social Enterprise working mainly for Income generation
using inno
The thing is that a lot of useless computers ARE dumped in developing
countries. There are waste disposal companies in the UK and elsewhere
who pay state governments in India and China (for example) to dump
unprocessed electronic waste in their backyard.
And there have also been some well intentio
Besides shipping, I would surmise some basic inspection, reconditioning
and local support costs - possibly extending to support personnel
training and motivation. All this would further jack up the overall cost
per computer.
Perhaps the only way this would work is to:
1Collect computers used
What about importing to small businesses instead? instead of donating
the computers, provide them at cost to small business owners who can
resell them and provide support services?
simon
On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 12:29 AM, Raju Dev Acharya wrote:
> I totally agree with Guido Sohne. In Nepal I
Does anyone know if there are computer donation programmes that go
beyond one-off donations? What if after a while people using donated
computers need upgrading and/or replacement? Who takes responsibility
for meeting with the created (long term) expectations of using
computers?
Maartje Op de Co
I've been following with interest the discussion about sending computers
to the Third World.
The rationale is clear:
* many countries are desperate for computing power, for schools,
training, productivity, but cannot afford the latest hardware and
software
* literally millions of computers are b
I totally agree with Guido Sohne. In Nepal I can buy a new PIII for
US$300. Also importing PC for distribution into the country takes a lot
of time and effort due to the never ending red tape and can take
months. This increases the cost of the PC if the cost incurred in the
host country is added t
I write to correct some errors in the discussion related to our current
costs. www.WorldComputerExchange.org sources and tests donated
computers for partners in developing countries. Based on the current
amount of computers we ship, the share of costs we must receive per
donated Pentium is US$57.
I was in a thread elsewhere that discussed this same issue and I also
thought that shipping used PCs makes perfect sense. The problem is the
actual cost of the used PCs when other overheads are taken into account.
Appended is an excerpt from an email I wrote concerning this:-
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I have been down this "used p.c. road" to a very great extent. In fact,
I spent several days in the Chicago area with a first class outfit that
supplies good used p.c.'s to the Illinois school system. They come
licensed by Microsoft with a later Windows 2000 o.s. and a monitor for
about $150. FOB C
To My learned, advanced and updated colleagues on this forum.
It is not my intention to divert the current discussions or even to draw
you back on issues that you may have already probably discussed in the
past.
I still get back to the first issue I earlier raised on procurement of
the so called
As a head of NTIC programme in Burkina Faso let me emphasize the fact
that the gap between third world and developed courties is so high that
we cannot make any comparison. I am also convinced that second hand
computers may be of some help in third world. As you know more than 2/3
of the population
In support of Mr. Njungu. I have always protested aloud whenever I hear
someone mentioning in a meeting something to the effect "they are
turning 3rd world countries into obsolete computer dumping ground".
There is nothing like obsolete here: a 486/66 pc with 500 MB HDD and 16
MB RAM will nicely i
In resonse to Larry Njungu of Zambia, you can visit
to see how we can source donated
computers in Scandinavia, Germany, and the USA for you to use to connect
youth to the Internet. We also have online support services to help you
through the first years of getting connected. In Zambia, Informati
Dear Larry,
Your concerns are valid. The hype of IT is cross cutting but who are the
real beneficiaries is a question mark at least in the context of third
world. I am not saying that good examples does not prevail but can these
be universally accepted and replicated. We have the examples of
gras
It is my first time to track a discussion on this forum.
The discussion going on about donated computers to the third world and
the implication of software update Vs teaching makes very interesting
reading, especially to a new-comer like me.
However, where as the discussion is as advanced as this
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