Re: [gmx-users] Re: g_analyze

2013-11-12 Thread bharat gupta
Sorry, I attached the wrong file . Here's the average file generate from
one of the files I sent in my last mail. I used the command g_analyze -f
hbond_115-water.xvg -av hbond_115-water-avg.xvg. Here's the file obtained
from this command :-

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sovzk40cudznfjw/hbond_115-water-avg.xvg

Now, if you see, the graph (in previous mail) and average file, both
correlates well. I have a doubt about interpreting the result from
g_analyze. The value 7.150740e+00 implies that on average 7 hydrogen
bonds are formed during the simulation time of 5ns to 10ns. What does then
the average file or its graph tells ??



On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/11/13 4:06 AM, bharat gupta wrote:

 In addition to my previous question, I have another question about
 g_analyze. When I used the hbond.xvg file to get the average and plotted
 the average.xvg file I found that the average value is round 4 to 5
 according to the graph. But g_analyze in its final calculation gives 7.150
 as the average values... Here's the link for the graph and result of
 average value calculated by g_analyze :-

std. dev.relative deviation of
 standard   -   cumulants from those of
 set  average   deviation  sqrt(n-1)   a Gaussian distribition
cum. 3   cum. 4
 SS1  * 7.150740e+00 *  8.803173e-01   1.760635e-02   0.0620.163

 SS2   1.490604e+00   1.164761e+00   2.329523e-02   0.4950.153

 https://www.dropbox.com/s/1vqixenyerha7qq/115-water.png

 Here's the  link hbond.xvg file and its averaged file
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0m47o3mrjn3o8/hbond_115-water.xvg
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0m47o3mrjn3o8/hbond_115-water.xvg


 Neither of these files produce output that corresponds to the PNG image
 above. Both files have values in 6-9 H-bond range and thus agree with the
 g_analyze output, which I can reproduce.  I suspect you're somehow getting
 your files mixed up.


 -Justin


 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:30 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  thank you informing about g_rdf...

 Is it possible to dump the structure with those average water molecules
 interacting with the residues. I generated the hbond.log file which gives
 the details but I need to generate a figure for this ??



 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/10/13 8:38 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

  But trjorder can be used to calculate the hydration layer or shell
 around
 residues ... Right ??


  Yes, but I also tend to think that integrating an RDF is also a more
 straightforward way of doing that.  With trjorder, you set some
 arbitrary
 cutoff that may or may not be an informed decision - with an RDF it is
 clear where the hydration layers are.

 -Justin



  On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:



 On 11/10/13 8:30 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

   Thanks for your reply. I was missing the scientific notation part.
 Now

 everything is fine.

 Regarding trjorder, it doesn't measure h-bonds but gives the water
 nearest
 to protein.


   I wouldn't try to draw any sort of comparison between the output of

 trjorder and g_hbond.  If you want to measure H-bonds, there's only
 one
 tool for that.


 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: g_analyze

2013-11-12 Thread bharat gupta
Hi,

I tried g_select to dump the structure with the interacting water
molecules, but I don't know know how to do that. I searched for some
threads in the discussion but wasn't able to find anything related to my
need. Can you explain how can I do that ?


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:39 AM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.comwrote:

 Sorry, I attached the wrong file . Here's the average file generate from
 one of the files I sent in my last mail. I used the command g_analyze -f
 hbond_115-water.xvg -av hbond_115-water-avg.xvg. Here's the file obtained
 from this command :-

 https://www.dropbox.com/s/sovzk40cudznfjw/hbond_115-water-avg.xvg

 Now, if you see, the graph (in previous mail) and average file, both
 correlates well. I have a doubt about interpreting the result from
 g_analyze. The value 7.150740e+00 implies that on average 7 hydrogen
 bonds are formed during the simulation time of 5ns to 10ns. What does then
 the average file or its graph tells ??



 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/11/13 4:06 AM, bharat gupta wrote:

 In addition to my previous question, I have another question about
 g_analyze. When I used the hbond.xvg file to get the average and plotted
 the average.xvg file I found that the average value is round 4 to 5
 according to the graph. But g_analyze in its final calculation gives
 7.150
 as the average values... Here's the link for the graph and result of
 average value calculated by g_analyze :-

std. dev.relative deviation of
 standard   -   cumulants from those
 of
 set  average   deviation  sqrt(n-1)   a Gaussian distribition
cum. 3   cum. 4
 SS1  * 7.150740e+00 *  8.803173e-01   1.760635e-02   0.0620.163

 SS2   1.490604e+00   1.164761e+00   2.329523e-02   0.4950.153

 https://www.dropbox.com/s/1vqixenyerha7qq/115-water.png

 Here's the  link hbond.xvg file and its averaged file
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0m47o3mrjn3o8/hbond_115-water.xvg
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0m47o3mrjn3o8/hbond_115-water.xvg


 Neither of these files produce output that corresponds to the PNG image
 above. Both files have values in 6-9 H-bond range and thus agree with the
 g_analyze output, which I can reproduce.  I suspect you're somehow getting
 your files mixed up.


 -Justin


 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:30 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  thank you informing about g_rdf...

 Is it possible to dump the structure with those average water molecules
 interacting with the residues. I generated the hbond.log file which
 gives
 the details but I need to generate a figure for this ??



 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:



 On 11/10/13 8:38 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

  But trjorder can be used to calculate the hydration layer or shell
 around
 residues ... Right ??


  Yes, but I also tend to think that integrating an RDF is also a more
 straightforward way of doing that.  With trjorder, you set some
 arbitrary
 cutoff that may or may not be an informed decision - with an RDF it is
 clear where the hydration layers are.

 -Justin



  On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:



 On 11/10/13 8:30 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

   Thanks for your reply. I was missing the scientific notation part.
 Now

 everything is fine.

 Regarding trjorder, it doesn't measure h-bonds but gives the water
 nearest
 to protein.


   I wouldn't try to draw any sort of comparison between the output
 of

 trjorder and g_hbond.  If you want to measure H-bonds, there's only
 one
 tool for that.


 -Justin

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[gmx-users] installation error under openSuse 12.2

2013-11-12 Thread Christoph Junghans
 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 08:27:05 -0800 (PST)
 From: kolnkempff kolnkem...@gmail.com
 Subject: [gmx-users] installation error under openSuse 12.2
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Message-ID: 1384187225465-5012430.p...@n6.nabble.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 Dear gmx-users,

 I am trying to install gromacs-4.6.3 on an older Dell that is running
 openSuse 12.2

 Using DGMX_BUILD_OWN_FFTW=ON failed for me so to get through cmake I had
 to compile fftw from scratch and I followed the recommendation of going
 directly to their website.  Now I am at the make stage and get the following
 message:

  [ 67%] Built target gmxfftw
 make[2]: *** No rule to make target
 `//home/koln/bin/gromacs-4.6.3/build/src/contrib/fftw/gmxfftw-prefix/lib/libfftw3f.a',
 needed by `src/gmxlib/libgmx.so.8'.  Stop.
 make[1]: *** [src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/all] Error 2
 make: *** [all] Error 2


 When I check for libfftw, I get:

 koln@linux-5bim:~/bin/gromacs-4.6.3/build2 rpm -qf /usr/lib/libfftw3f.*
 libfftw3-3-32bit-3.3.2-1.1.2.x86_64

 Any suggestions for how to get past this obstacle would be greatly
 appreciated!
This is an known issue in OpenSuse! We added a workaround a while ago:
https://gerrit.gromacs.org/#/c/2540/

Until Gromacs release 4.6.4. you will have to change line 41 of
src/contrib/fftw/CMakeLists.txt yourself or just install fftw through
OpenSuse or by hand.

Christoph

 Koln



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[gmx-users] Re: installation error under openSuse 12.2

2013-11-12 Thread kolnkempff
Thank you so much Justin.  On the one hand, I feel dumb because I could have
sworn that I was using a clean build directory.  On the other hand, I
obviously lost track of what I was doing because your suggestion worked like
a charm!

Koln

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[gmx-users] Calculating diffusion coefficient in three dimension

2013-11-12 Thread Venkat Reddy
Dear all,
I am simulating a spherical lipid vesicle. I want to calculate the
diffusion coefficient for each lipid component in 3D. How to calculate it
using g_msd (or any other tool like g_velacc)?

Thank you for your concern

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Re: [gmx-users] hydrogen bond calculation problem

2013-11-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/11/13 12:36 PM, Sushma Yadav wrote:

Dear gromacs users,

I have NaCl-water system of finite concentration .I want to calculate
water-water hydrogen bond in the first solvation shell around ion..So I
used g_hbond -shell option.For single ion in water,its easy to
calculate..But say,for water-water hydrogen bonds around two Na+ ions,it is
saying to Select one atom for shell. Although I have more than 1 Na+ ions
and I want to see water-water hydrogen bond around all Na+ ions
simultaneously.Is it possible to take solvation shell of each ion at a same
time?



According to the help description for the -shell option, no.  Only one particle 
can be considered at a time.  You'll have to analyze each Na+ separately, which 
is easily scripted.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] Restarting a simulation after replacing an empty md.trr file

2013-11-12 Thread arun kumar
Dear Gromacs users,

I am running a 50ns simulation of a protein having nearly 700 residues on
60 threads (Gromacs 4.6.3).
At one point i got a disk space problem, so i have deleted the md.trr file
and created an empty md.trr file. when i tried to restart the simulation
from check point file on 100 threads, [ mdrun -v -deffnm md -cpi md.cpt -nt
100 ]
i am getting a note and an error as fallows

Reading checkpoint file md.cpt generated:
  #PME-nodes mismatch,
current program: 100
checkpoint file: 60
Gromacs binary or parallel settings not identical to previous run.
Continuation is exact, but is not guaranteed to be binary identical.
...

Source code file: checkpoint.c, line: 1767
Fatal error:
Can't read 1048576 bytes of 'md.trr' to compute checksum. The file
has been replaced or its contents has been modified.

please help me in overcoming this problem.

Thanking you.

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Reaction field zero and ions

2013-11-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/11/13 12:08 PM, Williams Ernesto Miranda Delgado wrote:

Hello
If I did the MD simulation using PME and neutralized with ions, and I want
to rerun this time with reaction field zero, is there any problem if I
keep the ions? This is for LIE calculation. I am using AMBER99SB.


Why do you think it necessary to delete them?

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Re: [gmx-users] Calculating diffusion coefficient in three dimension

2013-11-12 Thread Dr. Vitaly Chaban
MSD is 3D by default.


Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:01 AM, Venkat Reddy venkat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,
 I am simulating a spherical lipid vesicle. I want to calculate the
 diffusion coefficient for each lipid component in 3D. How to calculate it
 using g_msd (or any other tool like g_velacc)?

 Thank you for your concern

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Reaction field zero and ions

2013-11-12 Thread Dr. Vitaly Chaban
There are no problems to have ions while using Reaction-Field treatment.


Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 On 11/11/13 12:08 PM, Williams Ernesto Miranda Delgado wrote:

 Hello
 If I did the MD simulation using PME and neutralized with ions, and I want
 to rerun this time with reaction field zero, is there any problem if I
 keep the ions? This is for LIE calculation. I am using AMBER99SB.


 Why do you think it necessary to delete them?

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: g_analyze

2013-11-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/11/13 5:39 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

Sorry, I attached the wrong file . Here's the average file generate from
one of the files I sent in my last mail. I used the command g_analyze -f
hbond_115-water.xvg -av hbond_115-water-avg.xvg. Here's the file obtained
from this command :-

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sovzk40cudznfjw/hbond_115-water-avg.xvg

Now, if you see, the graph (in previous mail) and average file, both
correlates well. I have a doubt about interpreting the result from
g_analyze. The value 7.150740e+00 implies that on average 7 hydrogen
bonds are formed during the simulation time of 5ns to 10ns. What does then
the average file or its graph tells ??



It's an average over sets.  It is not equivalent to the output printed to the 
screen, nor is it supposed to.  The value printed to the screen is the actual 
average of the data set of interest, as is intuitive from your values.  An 
average of 4 is impossible if all the data points are in the range of 6-9.


-Justin




On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 11/11/13 4:06 AM, bharat gupta wrote:


In addition to my previous question, I have another question about
g_analyze. When I used the hbond.xvg file to get the average and plotted
the average.xvg file I found that the average value is round 4 to 5
according to the graph. But g_analyze in its final calculation gives 7.150
as the average values... Here's the link for the graph and result of
average value calculated by g_analyze :-

std. dev.relative deviation of
 standard   -   cumulants from those of
set  average   deviation  sqrt(n-1)   a Gaussian distribition
cum. 3   cum. 4
SS1  * 7.150740e+00 *  8.803173e-01   1.760635e-02   0.0620.163

SS2   1.490604e+00   1.164761e+00   2.329523e-02   0.4950.153

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1vqixenyerha7qq/115-water.png

Here's the  link hbond.xvg file and its averaged file
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0m47o3mrjn3o8/hbond_115-water.xvg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0m47o3mrjn3o8/hbond_115-water.xvg



Neither of these files produce output that corresponds to the PNG image
above. Both files have values in 6-9 H-bond range and thus agree with the
g_analyze output, which I can reproduce.  I suspect you're somehow getting
your files mixed up.


-Justin



On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:30 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
wrote:

  thank you informing about g_rdf...


Is it possible to dump the structure with those average water molecules
interacting with the residues. I generated the hbond.log file which gives
the details but I need to generate a figure for this ??



On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 11/10/13 8:38 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

  But trjorder can be used to calculate the hydration layer or shell

around
residues ... Right ??


  Yes, but I also tend to think that integrating an RDF is also a more

straightforward way of doing that.  With trjorder, you set some
arbitrary
cutoff that may or may not be an informed decision - with an RDF it is
clear where the hydration layers are.

-Justin



  On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu

wrote:




On 11/10/13 8:30 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

   Thanks for your reply. I was missing the scientific notation part.
Now


everything is fine.

Regarding trjorder, it doesn't measure h-bonds but gives the water
nearest
to protein.


   I wouldn't try to draw any sort of comparison between the output of


trjorder and g_hbond.  If you want to measure H-bonds, there's only
one
tool for that.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Restarting a simulation after replacing an empty md.trr file

2013-11-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/12/13 1:15 AM, arun kumar wrote:

Dear Gromacs users,

I am running a 50ns simulation of a protein having nearly 700 residues on
60 threads (Gromacs 4.6.3).
At one point i got a disk space problem, so i have deleted the md.trr file
and created an empty md.trr file. when i tried to restart the simulation
from check point file on 100 threads, [ mdrun -v -deffnm md -cpi md.cpt -nt
100 ]
i am getting a note and an error as fallows

Reading checkpoint file md.cpt generated:
   #PME-nodes mismatch,
 current program: 100
 checkpoint file: 60
Gromacs binary or parallel settings not identical to previous run.
Continuation is exact, but is not guaranteed to be binary identical.
...

Source code file: checkpoint.c, line: 1767
Fatal error:
Can't read 1048576 bytes of 'md.trr' to compute checksum. The file
has been replaced or its contents has been modified.

please help me in overcoming this problem.



Use -noappend.  If you mess with any of the files that mdrun produces, the file 
appending procedure (which is the default behavior) will fail.


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: g_analyze

2013-11-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/11/13 6:56 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

Hi,

I tried g_select to dump the structure with the interacting water
molecules, but I don't know know how to do that. I searched for some
threads in the discussion but wasn't able to find anything related to my
need. Can you explain how can I do that ?



Start with g_select -select 'help all' and see what you can determine.  Such 
selections are rather straightforward and have been explained several times on 
the list.  If you need help, show us what you're doing and describe why it isn't 
what you want.  It will ultimately save a lot of time.


-Justin



On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:39 AM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.comwrote:


Sorry, I attached the wrong file . Here's the average file generate from
one of the files I sent in my last mail. I used the command g_analyze -f
hbond_115-water.xvg -av hbond_115-water-avg.xvg. Here's the file obtained
from this command :-

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sovzk40cudznfjw/hbond_115-water-avg.xvg

Now, if you see, the graph (in previous mail) and average file, both
correlates well. I have a doubt about interpreting the result from
g_analyze. The value 7.150740e+00 implies that on average 7 hydrogen
bonds are formed during the simulation time of 5ns to 10ns. What does then
the average file or its graph tells ??



On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 11/11/13 4:06 AM, bharat gupta wrote:


In addition to my previous question, I have another question about
g_analyze. When I used the hbond.xvg file to get the average and plotted
the average.xvg file I found that the average value is round 4 to 5
according to the graph. But g_analyze in its final calculation gives
7.150
as the average values... Here's the link for the graph and result of
average value calculated by g_analyze :-

std. dev.relative deviation of
 standard   -   cumulants from those
of
set  average   deviation  sqrt(n-1)   a Gaussian distribition
cum. 3   cum. 4
SS1  * 7.150740e+00 *  8.803173e-01   1.760635e-02   0.0620.163

SS2   1.490604e+00   1.164761e+00   2.329523e-02   0.4950.153

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1vqixenyerha7qq/115-water.png

Here's the  link hbond.xvg file and its averaged file
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0m47o3mrjn3o8/hbond_115-water.xvg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0m47o3mrjn3o8/hbond_115-water.xvg



Neither of these files produce output that corresponds to the PNG image
above. Both files have values in 6-9 H-bond range and thus agree with the
g_analyze output, which I can reproduce.  I suspect you're somehow getting
your files mixed up.


-Justin



On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:30 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
wrote:

  thank you informing about g_rdf...


Is it possible to dump the structure with those average water molecules
interacting with the residues. I generated the hbond.log file which
gives
the details but I need to generate a figure for this ??



On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
wrote:




On 11/10/13 8:38 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

  But trjorder can be used to calculate the hydration layer or shell

around
residues ... Right ??


  Yes, but I also tend to think that integrating an RDF is also a more

straightforward way of doing that.  With trjorder, you set some
arbitrary
cutoff that may or may not be an informed decision - with an RDF it is
clear where the hydration layers are.

-Justin



  On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu

wrote:




On 11/10/13 8:30 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

   Thanks for your reply. I was missing the scientific notation part.
Now


everything is fine.

Regarding trjorder, it doesn't measure h-bonds but gives the water
nearest
to protein.


   I wouldn't try to draw any sort of comparison between the output
of


trjorder and g_hbond.  If you want to measure H-bonds, there's only
one
tool for that.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: g_analyze

2013-11-12 Thread bharat gupta
Thanks justin for your replies. I understood the g_analyze related data. I
tired g_analyze to dump the structures as you said. But, I didn't find any
switch that can be used to dump the structure in pdb format.


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/11/13 6:56 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

 Hi,

 I tried g_select to dump the structure with the interacting water
 molecules, but I don't know know how to do that. I searched for some
 threads in the discussion but wasn't able to find anything related to my
 need. Can you explain how can I do that ?


 Start with g_select -select 'help all' and see what you can determine.
  Such selections are rather straightforward and have been explained several
 times on the list.  If you need help, show us what you're doing and
 describe why it isn't what you want.  It will ultimately save a lot of time.

 -Justin



 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:39 AM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Sorry, I attached the wrong file . Here's the average file generate from
 one of the files I sent in my last mail. I used the command g_analyze -f
 hbond_115-water.xvg -av hbond_115-water-avg.xvg. Here's the file obtained
 from this command :-

 https://www.dropbox.com/s/sovzk40cudznfjw/hbond_115-water-avg.xvg

 Now, if you see, the graph (in previous mail) and average file, both
 correlates well. I have a doubt about interpreting the result from
 g_analyze. The value 7.150740e+00 implies that on average 7 hydrogen
 bonds are formed during the simulation time of 5ns to 10ns. What does
 then
 the average file or its graph tells ??



 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/11/13 4:06 AM, bharat gupta wrote:

  In addition to my previous question, I have another question about
 g_analyze. When I used the hbond.xvg file to get the average and
 plotted
 the average.xvg file I found that the average value is round 4 to 5
 according to the graph. But g_analyze in its final calculation gives
 7.150
 as the average values... Here's the link for the graph and result of
 average value calculated by g_analyze :-

 std. dev.relative deviation of
  standard   -   cumulants from
 those
 of
 set  average   deviation  sqrt(n-1)   a Gaussian
 distribition
 cum. 3   cum. 4
 SS1  * 7.150740e+00 *  8.803173e-01   1.760635e-02   0.0620.163

 SS2   1.490604e+00   1.164761e+00   2.329523e-02   0.4950.153

 https://www.dropbox.com/s/1vqixenyerha7qq/115-water.png

 Here's the  link hbond.xvg file and its averaged file
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0m47o3mrjn3o8/hbond_115-water.xvg
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0m47o3mrjn3o8/hbond_115-water.xvg


  Neither of these files produce output that corresponds to the PNG
 image
 above. Both files have values in 6-9 H-bond range and thus agree with
 the
 g_analyze output, which I can reproduce.  I suspect you're somehow
 getting
 your files mixed up.


 -Justin


  On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:30 PM, bharat gupta 
 bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:

   thank you informing about g_rdf...


 Is it possible to dump the structure with those average water
 molecules
 interacting with the residues. I generated the hbond.log file which
 gives
 the details but I need to generate a figure for this ??



 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:



 On 11/10/13 8:38 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

   But trjorder can be used to calculate the hydration layer or shell

 around
 residues ... Right ??


   Yes, but I also tend to think that integrating an RDF is also a
 more

 straightforward way of doing that.  With trjorder, you set some
 arbitrary
 cutoff that may or may not be an informed decision - with an RDF it
 is
 clear where the hydration layers are.

 -Justin



   On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu

 wrote:



  On 11/10/13 8:30 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

Thanks for your reply. I was missing the scientific notation
 part.
 Now

  everything is fine.

 Regarding trjorder, it doesn't measure h-bonds but gives the water
 nearest
 to protein.


I wouldn't try to draw any sort of comparison between the
 output
 of

  trjorder and g_hbond.  If you want to measure H-bonds, there's
 only
 one
 tool for that.


 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: g_analyze

2013-11-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/12/13 8:33 AM, bharat gupta wrote:

Thanks justin for your replies. I understood the g_analyze related data. I
tired g_analyze to dump the structures as you said. But, I didn't find any
switch that can be used to dump the structure in pdb format.



Because that's not the function of g_analyze.  Use trjconv -dump with a suitable 
index file (from g_select).


-Justin



On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 11/11/13 6:56 PM, bharat gupta wrote:


Hi,

I tried g_select to dump the structure with the interacting water
molecules, but I don't know know how to do that. I searched for some
threads in the discussion but wasn't able to find anything related to my
need. Can you explain how can I do that ?



Start with g_select -select 'help all' and see what you can determine.
  Such selections are rather straightforward and have been explained several
times on the list.  If you need help, show us what you're doing and
describe why it isn't what you want.  It will ultimately save a lot of time.

-Justin




On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:39 AM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
wrote:

  Sorry, I attached the wrong file . Here's the average file generate from

one of the files I sent in my last mail. I used the command g_analyze -f
hbond_115-water.xvg -av hbond_115-water-avg.xvg. Here's the file obtained
from this command :-

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sovzk40cudznfjw/hbond_115-water-avg.xvg

Now, if you see, the graph (in previous mail) and average file, both
correlates well. I have a doubt about interpreting the result from
g_analyze. The value 7.150740e+00 implies that on average 7 hydrogen
bonds are formed during the simulation time of 5ns to 10ns. What does
then
the average file or its graph tells ??



On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 11/11/13 4:06 AM, bharat gupta wrote:

  In addition to my previous question, I have another question about

g_analyze. When I used the hbond.xvg file to get the average and
plotted
the average.xvg file I found that the average value is round 4 to 5
according to the graph. But g_analyze in its final calculation gives
7.150
as the average values... Here's the link for the graph and result of
average value calculated by g_analyze :-

 std. dev.relative deviation of
  standard   -   cumulants from
those
of
set  average   deviation  sqrt(n-1)   a Gaussian
distribition
 cum. 3   cum. 4
SS1  * 7.150740e+00 *  8.803173e-01   1.760635e-02   0.0620.163

SS2   1.490604e+00   1.164761e+00   2.329523e-02   0.4950.153

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1vqixenyerha7qq/115-water.png

Here's the  link hbond.xvg file and its averaged file
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0m47o3mrjn3o8/hbond_115-water.xvg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n0m47o3mrjn3o8/hbond_115-water.xvg


  Neither of these files produce output that corresponds to the PNG

image
above. Both files have values in 6-9 H-bond range and thus agree with
the
g_analyze output, which I can reproduce.  I suspect you're somehow
getting
your files mixed up.


-Justin


  On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:30 PM, bharat gupta 

bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
wrote:

   thank you informing about g_rdf...



Is it possible to dump the structure with those average water
molecules
interacting with the residues. I generated the hbond.log file which
gives
the details but I need to generate a figure for this ??



On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
wrote:




On 11/10/13 8:38 PM, bharat gupta wrote:

   But trjorder can be used to calculate the hydration layer or shell


around
residues ... Right ??


   Yes, but I also tend to think that integrating an RDF is also a
more


straightforward way of doing that.  With trjorder, you set some
arbitrary
cutoff that may or may not be an informed decision - with an RDF it
is
clear where the hydration layers are.

-Justin



   On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu


wrote:



  On 11/10/13 8:30 PM, bharat gupta wrote:


Thanks for your reply. I was missing the scientific notation
part.
Now

  everything is fine.


Regarding trjorder, it doesn't measure h-bonds but gives the water
nearest
to protein.


I wouldn't try to draw any sort of comparison between the
output
of

  trjorder and g_hbond.  If you want to measure H-bonds, there's

only
one
tool for that.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Calculating diffusion coefficient in three dimension

2013-11-12 Thread Venkat Reddy
Thank you sir for the prompt reply.
*g_msd -f traj.xtc -s topol.tpr -n msd.ndx -lateral z -o msd.xvg -tu ns*
Here I am giving -lateral z (like for membrane simulations). Is it fine for
spherical systems also?


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.comwrote:

 MSD is 3D by default.


 Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban


 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:01 AM, Venkat Reddy venkat...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear all,
  I am simulating a spherical lipid vesicle. I want to calculate the
  diffusion coefficient for each lipid component in 3D. How to calculate it
  using g_msd (or any other tool like g_velacc)?
 
  Thank you for your concern
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Calculating diffusion coefficient in three dimension

2013-11-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/12/13 8:55 AM, Venkat Reddy wrote:

Thank you sir for the prompt reply.
*g_msd -f traj.xtc -s topol.tpr -n msd.ndx -lateral z -o msd.xvg -tu ns*
Here I am giving -lateral z (like for membrane simulations). Is it fine for
spherical systems also?




No.  The system is a sphere, so what use is it to calculate motion perpendicular 
to z when you have lipids moving in all three spatial dimensions?  A vesicle is 
very different from a membrane, in which the lipids move in a plane, thus making 
-lateral z useful.


-Justin


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.comwrote:


MSD is 3D by default.


Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:01 AM, Venkat Reddy venkat...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear all,
I am simulating a spherical lipid vesicle. I want to calculate the
diffusion coefficient for each lipid component in 3D. How to calculate it
using g_msd (or any other tool like g_velacc)?

Thank you for your concern

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 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:45:05 +0530
 From: arun kumar arunjones.kuma...@gmail.com
 Subject: [gmx-users] Restarting a simulation after replacing an empty
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 Dear Gromacs users,

 I am running a 50ns simulation of a protein having nearly 700 residues on
 60 threads (Gromacs 4.6.3).
 At one point i got a disk space problem, so i have deleted the md.trr file
 and created an empty md.trr file. when i tried to restart the simulation
 from check point file on 100 threads, [ mdrun -v -deffnm md -cpi md.cpt
 -nt
 100 ]
 i am getting a note and an error as fallows

 Reading checkpoint file md.cpt generated:
   #PME-nodes mismatch,
 current program: 100
 checkpoint file: 60
 Gromacs binary or parallel settings not identical to previous run.
 Continuation is exact, but is not guaranteed to be binary identical.
 ...

 Source code file: checkpoint.c, line: 1767
 Fatal error:
 Can't read 1048576 bytes of 'md.trr' to compute checksum. The file
 has been replaced or its contents has been modified.

 please help me in overcoming this problem.

 Thanking you.

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 On 11/11/13 12:08 PM, Williams Ernesto Miranda Delgado wrote:
 Hello
 If I did the MD simulation using PME and neutralized with ions, and I
 want
 to rerun this time with reaction field zero, is there any problem if I
 keep the ions? This is for LIE calculation. I am using AMBER99SB.

 Why do you think it necessary to delete them?

 -Justin

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 MSD is 3D by default.


 Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban


 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:01 AM, Venkat Reddy venkat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,
 I am simulating a spherical lipid vesicle. I want to calculate the
 diffusion coefficient for each lipid component in 3D. How to calculate
 it
 using g_msd (or any other tool like g_velacc)?

 Thank you for your concern

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[gmx-users] Invalid order for directive defaults

2013-11-12 Thread Atila Petrosian
Dear all

My system contains protein + cnt + water molecules.

I have summarized what I did below:
---

1) By pdb2gmx and charmm27 force field, I obtained pr.top for protein then
I converted it into pr.itp by deleting

; Include forcefield parameters
#include charmm27.ff/forcefield.itp

from begining of file and by deleting

; Include water topology
#include charmm27.ff/tip3p.itp

#ifdef POSRES_WATER
; Position restraint for each water oxygen
[ position_restraints ]
;  i funct   fcxfcyfcz
   11   1000   1000   1000
#endif

; Include topology for ions
#include charmm27.ff/ions.itp

[ system ]
; Name
Protein

[ molecules ]
; Compound#mols
Protein_chain_A 1

from ending of file.


2) I used bonded and nonbonded parameters for cnt from paper:
 J. Phys. Chem. B 2001, 105, 9980-9987
(Carbon Nanotubes in Water: Structural Characteristics and Energetics).
I created cnt.ff folder containing following files:

ffcnt.atp / ffcnt.n2t / ffcnt.rtp / ffcntbon.itp / ffcntnonbon.itp /
forcefield.itp

Then, I put cnt.ff folder in GMXLIB directory.


3) By g_x2top and cnt.ff created in previous step, I obtained cnt.top for
cnt then I converted it into cnt.itp by deleting

; Include forcefield parameters
#include cnt.ff/forcefield.itp

from begining of file and by deleting

[ system ]
; Name
CNT

[ molecules ]
; Compound#mols
CNT 1

from ending of file.


4) I combined cnt and protein to create one coordination file (system.gro).
Order of molecules are as follows: 1) cnt 2) protein
3) water.


5) I wrote a topol.top file given below,

; Include forcefield parameters
#include cnt.ff/forcefield.itp

#include cnt.itp

#include charmm27.ff/forcefield.itp

#include pr.itp

; Include Position restraint file
#ifdef POSRES
#include posre.itp
#endif

; Include water topology
#include charmm27.ff/tip3p.itp

#ifdef POSRES_WATER
; Position restraint for each water oxygen
[ position_restraints ]
;  i funct   fcxfcyfcz
   11   1000   1000   1000
#endif

; Include topology for ions
#include charmm27.ff/ions.itp

[ system ]
; Name
CNT/Protein/SOL

[ molecules ]
; Compound#mols
CNT  1
Protein  1
SOL   1359


When I used grompp -f minim.mdp -c system.gro -p topol.top -o minim.tpr, I
encountered with following error:

Fatal error:
Syntax error - File forcefield.itp, line 11
Last line read:
'[ defaults ]'
Invalid order for directive defaults

Content of forcefield.itp in cnt.ff directory is as follows:

***
*CHARMM port writted
by   *
*Par Bjelkmar, Per Larsson, Michel
Cuendet,   *
*Berk Hess and Erik
Lindahl.  *
*
Correspondance:  *
*bjelk...@cbr.su.se or lind...@cbr.su.se
*
***


#define _FF_CNT
[ defaults ]
; nbfunccomb-rulegen-pairsfudgeLJfudgeQQ
12yes1.01.0

#include ffcntnonbon.itp
#include ffcntbon.itp

and

Content of forcefield.itp in Charmm27.ff directory is as follows:

***
*CHARMM port writted
by   *
*Par Bjelkmar, Per Larsson, Michel
Cuendet,   *
*Berk Hess and Erik
Lindahl.  *
*
Correspondance:  *
*bjelk...@cbr.su.se or lind...@cbr.su.se
*
***


#define _FF_CHARMM
[ defaults ]
; nbfunccomb-rulegen-pairsfudgeLJfudgeQQ
12yes1.01.0

#include ffnonbonded.itp
#include ffbonded.itp
#include gb.itp
#include cmap.itp
; Nucleic acids nonbonded and bonded parameters
#include ffnanonbonded.itp
#include ffnabonded.itp


In both of forcefield.itp files, line 11 is [ defaults ].

I changed name of  forcefield.itp file in cnt.ff directory to cntff.itp,
but there is same error, again.

That is all what I exactly did. Is anything wrong or missing?
How to solve this error?

Any help will highly appreciated
-- 

Re: mdrun on 8-core AMD + GTX TITAN (was: Re: [gmx-users] Re: Gromacs-4.6 on two Titans GPUs)

2013-11-12 Thread Szilárd Páll
As Mark said, please share the *entire* log file. Among other
important things, the result of PP-PME tuning is not included above.

However, I suspect that in this case scaling is strongly affected or
by the small size of the system you are simulating.
--
Szilárd


On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 5:28 AM, Dwey Kauffman mpi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Szilard,

  Thank you very much for your suggestions.

Actually, I was jumping to conclusions too early, as you mentioned AMD
cluster, I assumed you must have 12-16-core Opteron CPUs. If you
have an 8-core (desktop?) AMD CPU, than you may not need to run more
than one rank per GPU.

 Yes, we do have independent clusters of AMD, AMD opteron, Intel Corei7. All
 nodes of three clusters are  installed with (at least) 1 GPU card.   I have
 run the same test on these three clusters.

 Let's focus on a basic scaling issue:  One GPU  v.s Two GPUs within the same
 node of 8-core AMD cpu.
 Using 1 GPU, we  can  have a performance of ~32 ns/day.  Using two GPU, we
 gain not much more ( ~38.5 ns/day ).  It is about ~20% more performance.
 However, this is not really true because in some tests, I also saw only 2-5%
 more, which really surprised me.

 As you can see, this test was made on the same node regardless of
 networking.  Can the performance be improved  say 50% more when 2 GPUs are
 used on a general task ?  If yes, how ?

Indeed, as Richard pointed out, I was asking for *full* logs, these
summaries can't tell much, the table above the summary entitled R E A
L   C Y C L E   A N D   T I M E   A C C O U N T I N G as well as
other reported information across the log file is what I need to make
an assessment of your simulations' performance.

 Please see below.

However, in your case I suspect that the
bottleneck is multi-threaded scaling on the AMD CPUs and you should
probably decrease the number of threads per MPI rank and share GPUs
between 2-4 ranks.

 After I test all three clusters, I found it may NOT be an issue of AMD cpus.
 Intel cpus has the SAME scaling issue.

 However, I am curious as to how you justify the setup of 2-4 ranks sharing
 GPUs ? Can you please explain it a bit more ?


You could try running
mpirun -np 4 mdrun -ntomp 2 -gpu_id 0011
but I suspect this won't help because your scaling issue

 Your guess is correct but why is that ?  it is worse. The more nodes are
 involved in a task, the performance is worse.


 in my
experience even reaction field runs don't scale across nodes with 10G
ethernet if you have more than 4-6 ranks per node trying to
communicate (let alone with PME).

 What dose it mean  let alone with PME ?  how to do so ? by mdrun ?
 I do know  mdrun -npme to specify PME process.

 Thank you.

 Dwey



 ### One GPU 

  R E A L   C Y C L E   A N D   T I M E   A C C O U N T I N G

  Computing: Nodes   Th. Count  Wall t (s) G-Cycles   %
 -
  Neighbor search18 11 431.81713863.390 1.6
  Launch GPU ops.18501 472.90615182.556 1.7
  Force  185011328.61142654.785 4.9
  PME mesh   18501   11561.327   371174.09042.8
  Wait GPU local 185016888.008   221138.11125.5
  NB X/F buffer ops. 189911216.49939055.455 4.5
  Write traj.18   1030  12.741  409.039 0.0
  Update 185011696.35854461.226 6.3
  Constraints185011969.72663237.647 7.3
  Rest   11458.82046835.133 5.4
 -
  Total  1   27036.812   868011.431   100.0
 -
 -
  PME spread/gather  18   10026975.086   223933.73925.8
  PME 3D-FFT 18   10023928.259   126115.97614.5
  PME solve  18501 636.48820434.327 2.4
 -
  GPU timings
 -
  Computing: Count  Wall t (s)  ms/step   %
 -
  Pair list H2D 11  43.4350.434 0.2
  X / q H2D501 567.1680.113 2.8
  Nonbonded F kernel   400   14174.3163.54470.8
  Nonbonded F+ene k.904314.4384.79421.5
  Nonbonded F+ene+prune k.  11 572.3705.724 2.9
  F D2H

Re: [gmx-users] Invalid order for directive defaults

2013-11-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/12/13 10:07 AM, Atila Petrosian wrote:

Dear all

My system contains protein + cnt + water molecules.

I have summarized what I did below:
---

1) By pdb2gmx and charmm27 force field, I obtained pr.top for protein then
I converted it into pr.itp by deleting

; Include forcefield parameters
#include charmm27.ff/forcefield.itp

from begining of file and by deleting

; Include water topology
#include charmm27.ff/tip3p.itp

#ifdef POSRES_WATER
; Position restraint for each water oxygen
[ position_restraints ]
;  i funct   fcxfcyfcz
11   1000   1000   1000
#endif

; Include topology for ions
#include charmm27.ff/ions.itp

[ system ]
; Name
Protein

[ molecules ]
; Compound#mols
Protein_chain_A 1

from ending of file.


2) I used bonded and nonbonded parameters for cnt from paper:
  J. Phys. Chem. B 2001, 105, 9980-9987
(Carbon Nanotubes in Water: Structural Characteristics and Energetics).
I created cnt.ff folder containing following files:

ffcnt.atp / ffcnt.n2t / ffcnt.rtp / ffcntbon.itp / ffcntnonbon.itp /
forcefield.itp

Then, I put cnt.ff folder in GMXLIB directory.


3) By g_x2top and cnt.ff created in previous step, I obtained cnt.top for
cnt then I converted it into cnt.itp by deleting

; Include forcefield parameters
#include cnt.ff/forcefield.itp

from begining of file and by deleting

[ system ]
; Name
CNT

[ molecules ]
; Compound#mols
CNT 1

from ending of file.


4) I combined cnt and protein to create one coordination file (system.gro).
Order of molecules are as follows: 1) cnt 2) protein
3) water.


5) I wrote a topol.top file given below,

; Include forcefield parameters
#include cnt.ff/forcefield.itp

#include cnt.itp

#include charmm27.ff/forcefield.itp

#include pr.itp

; Include Position restraint file
#ifdef POSRES
#include posre.itp
#endif

; Include water topology
#include charmm27.ff/tip3p.itp

#ifdef POSRES_WATER
; Position restraint for each water oxygen
[ position_restraints ]
;  i funct   fcxfcyfcz
11   1000   1000   1000
#endif

; Include topology for ions
#include charmm27.ff/ions.itp

[ system ]
; Name
CNT/Protein/SOL

[ molecules ]
; Compound#mols
CNT  1
Protein  1
SOL   1359


When I used grompp -f minim.mdp -c system.gro -p topol.top -o minim.tpr, I
encountered with following error:

Fatal error:
Syntax error - File forcefield.itp, line 11
Last line read:
'[ defaults ]'
Invalid order for directive defaults

Content of forcefield.itp in cnt.ff directory is as follows:

***
*CHARMM port writted
by   *
*Par Bjelkmar, Per Larsson, Michel
Cuendet,   *
*Berk Hess and Erik
Lindahl.  *
*
Correspondance:  *
*bjelk...@cbr.su.se or lind...@cbr.su.se
*
***


#define _FF_CNT
[ defaults ]
; nbfunccomb-rulegen-pairsfudgeLJfudgeQQ
12yes1.01.0

#include ffcntnonbon.itp
#include ffcntbon.itp

and

Content of forcefield.itp in Charmm27.ff directory is as follows:

***
*CHARMM port writted
by   *
*Par Bjelkmar, Per Larsson, Michel
Cuendet,   *
*Berk Hess and Erik
Lindahl.  *
*
Correspondance:  *
*bjelk...@cbr.su.se or lind...@cbr.su.se
*
***


#define _FF_CHARMM
[ defaults ]
; nbfunccomb-rulegen-pairsfudgeLJfudgeQQ
12yes1.01.0

#include ffnonbonded.itp
#include ffbonded.itp
#include gb.itp
#include cmap.itp
; Nucleic acids nonbonded and bonded parameters
#include ffnanonbonded.itp
#include ffnabonded.itp


In both of forcefield.itp files, line 11 is [ defaults ].

I changed name of  forcefield.itp file in cnt.ff directory to cntff.itp,
but there is same error, again.

That is all what I exactly did. Is anything wrong or missing?
How to 

[gmx-users] Re: segmentation fault on gromacs 4.5.5 after mdrun

2013-11-12 Thread cjalmeciga
I run 

grompp -f nvt.mdp -c em.gro -p topol.top -n index.ndx -o nvt.tpr 

and everything looks fine. I check the nvt.tpr, and temperature is ok. 

the real problem is with the mdrun function.

could be a problem of the software?

Thanks

Javier



Justin Lemkul wrote
 On 11/11/13 11:24 AM, Carlos Javier Almeciga Diaz wrote:
 Hello evryone,

 I doing a simulation of a ligand-protein interaction with gromacs 4.5.5.
 Everything looks fine after I equilibrate the protein-ligand complex. I'm
 running these commands:


 grompp -f nvt.mdp -c em.gro -p topol.top -n index.ndx -o nvt.tpr

 mdrun -deffnm nvt

 Nevertheless, I got this error:

 Reading file nvt.tpr, VERSION 4.5.5 (double precision)
 Segmentation fault

 What should I do?

 
 Instantaneous failure typically indicates that the forces are
 nonsensically high 
 and the constraint algorithm immediately fails.  Likely the previous
 energy 
 minimization did not adequately complete.
 
 -Justin
 
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[gmx-users] Re: Restarting a simulation after replacing an empty md.trr file

2013-11-12 Thread arunjones
Hello Sir,
Thanks for the reply.
now is it fine if i use 100 threads in my restart.
is there any impact on the over all simulation? 

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: segmentation fault on gromacs 4.5.5 after mdrun

2013-11-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/12/13 10:58 AM, cjalmeciga wrote:

I run

grompp -f nvt.mdp -c em.gro -p topol.top -n index.ndx -o nvt.tpr

and everything looks fine. I check the nvt.tpr, and temperature is ok.



The fact that grompp completes indicates there is nothing syntactically wrong 
with the input files.  Whether or not the content of the .mdp is physically 
sensible or the input configuration is plausible is an entirely different 
matter.  Please tell us what the exact outcome of the previous energy 
minimization was (potential energy, maximum force, copied and pasted from screen 
output or .log file).



the real problem is with the mdrun function.

could be a problem of the software?



You have presented no evidence that would lead anyone to believe the problem is 
with mdrun.  In the vast majority of cases, user input is the problem.


-Justin


Thanks

Javier



Justin Lemkul wrote

On 11/11/13 11:24 AM, Carlos Javier Almeciga Diaz wrote:

Hello evryone,

I doing a simulation of a ligand-protein interaction with gromacs 4.5.5.
Everything looks fine after I equilibrate the protein-ligand complex. I'm
running these commands:


grompp -f nvt.mdp -c em.gro -p topol.top -n index.ndx -o nvt.tpr

mdrun -deffnm nvt

Nevertheless, I got this error:

Reading file nvt.tpr, VERSION 4.5.5 (double precision)
Segmentation fault

What should I do?



Instantaneous failure typically indicates that the forces are
nonsensically high
and the constraint algorithm immediately fails.  Likely the previous
energy
minimization did not adequately complete.

-Justin

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Baltimore, MD 21201



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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Restarting a simulation after replacing an empty md.trr file

2013-11-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/12/13 11:10 AM, arunjones wrote:

Hello Sir,
Thanks for the reply.
now is it fine if i use 100 threads in my restart.
is there any impact on the over all simulation?



Only if that is the number of threads originally used in the run.  If not, there 
will be a mismatch between the DD grid setup, the .cpt file will complain, and 
the run will fail.  Rule of thumb: don't change settings or alter files mid-run ;)


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Calculating diffusion coefficient in three dimension

2013-11-12 Thread Venkat Reddy
Then, how to mention the direction for spherical particles Sir?


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/12/13 8:55 AM, Venkat Reddy wrote:

 Thank you sir for the prompt reply.
 *g_msd -f traj.xtc -s topol.tpr -n msd.ndx -lateral z -o msd.xvg -tu ns*

 Here I am giving -lateral z (like for membrane simulations). Is it fine
 for
 spherical systems also?



 No.  The system is a sphere, so what use is it to calculate motion
 perpendicular to z when you have lipids moving in all three spatial
 dimensions?  A vesicle is very different from a membrane, in which the
 lipids move in a plane, thus making -lateral z useful.

 -Justin


  On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  MSD is 3D by default.


 Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban


 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:01 AM, Venkat Reddy venkat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear all,
 I am simulating a spherical lipid vesicle. I want to calculate the
 diffusion coefficient for each lipid component in 3D. How to calculate
 it
 using g_msd (or any other tool like g_velacc)?

 Thank you for your concern

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Re: [gmx-users] Calculating diffusion coefficient in three dimension

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On 11/12/13 11:25 AM, Venkat Reddy wrote:

Then, how to mention the direction for spherical particles Sir?



Read g_msd -h again, paying specific attention to the -type flag.

-Justin



On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 11/12/13 8:55 AM, Venkat Reddy wrote:


Thank you sir for the prompt reply.
*g_msd -f traj.xtc -s topol.tpr -n msd.ndx -lateral z -o msd.xvg -tu ns*

Here I am giving -lateral z (like for membrane simulations). Is it fine
for
spherical systems also?




No.  The system is a sphere, so what use is it to calculate motion
perpendicular to z when you have lipids moving in all three spatial
dimensions?  A vesicle is very different from a membrane, in which the
lipids move in a plane, thus making -lateral z useful.

-Justin


  On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com

wrote:


  MSD is 3D by default.



Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:01 AM, Venkat Reddy venkat...@gmail.com
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Dear all,
I am simulating a spherical lipid vesicle. I want to calculate the
diffusion coefficient for each lipid component in 3D. How to calculate
it
using g_msd (or any other tool like g_velacc)?

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[gmx-users] Re: Restarting a simulation after replacing an empty md.trr file

2013-11-12 Thread arunjones
Thank you Sir,
initially i was running on 60 threads, now i changed it to 100. simulation
is running with out any error, but i found a note in the log file as fallows

  #nodes mismatch,
current program: 100
checkpoint file: 60

  #PME-nodes mismatch,
current program: -1
checkpoint file: 12

Gromacs binary or parallel settings not identical to previous run.
Continuation is exact, but is not guaranteed to be binary identical.

Initializing Domain Decomposition on 100 nodes


is it a good idea to continue or shall i stick with 60 threads.

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Restarting a simulation after replacing an empty md.trr file

2013-11-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/12/13 12:07 PM, arunjones wrote:

Thank you Sir,
initially i was running on 60 threads, now i changed it to 100. simulation
is running with out any error, but i found a note in the log file as fallows

   #nodes mismatch,
 current program: 100
 checkpoint file: 60

   #PME-nodes mismatch,
 current program: -1
 checkpoint file: 12

Gromacs binary or parallel settings not identical to previous run.
Continuation is exact, but is not guaranteed to be binary identical.

Initializing Domain Decomposition on 100 nodes


is it a good idea to continue or shall i stick with 60 threads.



Like I said, I think it is a bad idea to switch settings haphazardly during the 
run.  As the note indicates, the continuation is exact, but not binary 
identical.  Check the website for what all that means if you're not sure.


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[gmx-users] Re: segmentation fault on gromacs 4.5.5 after mdrun

2013-11-12 Thread cjalmeciga

The output of energy minimization was

Potential Energy  = -1.42173622068236e+06
Maximum force =  9.00312066109319e+02 on atom 148
Norm of force =  2.06087515037187e+01

Thanks

Javier


Justin Lemkul wrote
 On 11/12/13 10:58 AM, cjalmeciga wrote:
 I run

 grompp -f nvt.mdp -c em.gro -p topol.top -n index.ndx -o nvt.tpr

 and everything looks fine. I check the nvt.tpr, and temperature is ok.

 
 The fact that grompp completes indicates there is nothing syntactically
 wrong 
 with the input files.  Whether or not the content of the .mdp is
 physically 
 sensible or the input configuration is plausible is an entirely different 
 matter.  Please tell us what the exact outcome of the previous energy 
 minimization was (potential energy, maximum force, copied and pasted from
 screen 
 output or .log file).
 
 the real problem is with the mdrun function.

 could be a problem of the software?

 
 You have presented no evidence that would lead anyone to believe the
 problem is 
 with mdrun.  In the vast majority of cases, user input is the problem.
 
 -Justin
 
 Thanks

 Javier



 Justin Lemkul wrote
 On 11/11/13 11:24 AM, Carlos Javier Almeciga Diaz wrote:
 Hello evryone,

 I doing a simulation of a ligand-protein interaction with gromacs
 4.5.5.
 Everything looks fine after I equilibrate the protein-ligand complex.
 I'm
 running these commands:


 grompp -f nvt.mdp -c em.gro -p topol.top -n index.ndx -o nvt.tpr

 mdrun -deffnm nvt

 Nevertheless, I got this error:

 Reading file nvt.tpr, VERSION 4.5.5 (double precision)
 Segmentation fault

 What should I do?


 Instantaneous failure typically indicates that the forces are
 nonsensically high
 and the constraint algorithm immediately fails.  Likely the previous
 energy
 minimization did not adequately complete.

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: segmentation fault on gromacs 4.5.5 after mdrun

2013-11-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/12/13 12:14 PM, cjalmeciga wrote:


The output of energy minimization was

Potential Energy  = -1.42173622068236e+06
Maximum force =  9.00312066109319e+02 on atom 148
Norm of force =  2.06087515037187e+01



OK, reasonable enough.  How about a description of what the system is, which 
force field you chose, how you derived the ligand topology, and the full 
contents of your .mdp file?


-Justin


Thanks

Javier


Justin Lemkul wrote

On 11/12/13 10:58 AM, cjalmeciga wrote:

I run

grompp -f nvt.mdp -c em.gro -p topol.top -n index.ndx -o nvt.tpr

and everything looks fine. I check the nvt.tpr, and temperature is ok.



The fact that grompp completes indicates there is nothing syntactically
wrong
with the input files.  Whether or not the content of the .mdp is
physically
sensible or the input configuration is plausible is an entirely different
matter.  Please tell us what the exact outcome of the previous energy
minimization was (potential energy, maximum force, copied and pasted from
screen
output or .log file).


the real problem is with the mdrun function.

could be a problem of the software?



You have presented no evidence that would lead anyone to believe the
problem is
with mdrun.  In the vast majority of cases, user input is the problem.

-Justin


Thanks

Javier



Justin Lemkul wrote

On 11/11/13 11:24 AM, Carlos Javier Almeciga Diaz wrote:

Hello evryone,

I doing a simulation of a ligand-protein interaction with gromacs
4.5.5.
Everything looks fine after I equilibrate the protein-ligand complex.
I'm
running these commands:


grompp -f nvt.mdp -c em.gro -p topol.top -n index.ndx -o nvt.tpr

mdrun -deffnm nvt

Nevertheless, I got this error:

Reading file nvt.tpr, VERSION 4.5.5 (double precision)
Segmentation fault

What should I do?



Instantaneous failure typically indicates that the forces are
nonsensically high
and the constraint algorithm immediately fails.  Likely the previous
energy
minimization did not adequately complete.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Calculating diffusion coefficient in three dimension

2013-11-12 Thread Venkat Reddy
Dear Sir, Thanks for the quick reply.
So, I have to declare -type no flag. Isn't it??
and I have recently gone through Justin's membrane protein tutorial, where
he has calculated diffusion coefficient for lipids in a membrane by
creating an index group for a particular atom. So, here also shall I do the
same thing? Moreover, mine is a coarse-grained system.



On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/12/13 11:25 AM, Venkat Reddy wrote:

 Then, how to mention the direction for spherical particles Sir?


 Read g_msd -h again, paying specific attention to the -type flag.


 -Justin


 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/12/13 8:55 AM, Venkat Reddy wrote:

  Thank you sir for the prompt reply.
 *g_msd -f traj.xtc -s topol.tpr -n msd.ndx -lateral z -o msd.xvg -tu ns*

 Here I am giving -lateral z (like for membrane simulations). Is it fine
 for
 spherical systems also?



  No.  The system is a sphere, so what use is it to calculate motion
 perpendicular to z when you have lipids moving in all three spatial
 dimensions?  A vesicle is very different from a membrane, in which the
 lipids move in a plane, thus making -lateral z useful.

 -Justin


   On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com

 wrote:


   MSD is 3D by default.



 Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban


 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:01 AM, Venkat Reddy venkat...@gmail.com
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  Dear all,
 I am simulating a spherical lipid vesicle. I want to calculate the
 diffusion coefficient for each lipid component in 3D. How to calculate
 it
 using g_msd (or any other tool like g_velacc)?

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[gmx-users] Change in the positon of structural Zinc and calcium ions during MD

2013-11-12 Thread Rama

Hi Gromacs users,

I'm doing protein-Bilayer MD simulations. Enzyme contains structural zinc
and calcium ions during Energy minimization, NVT and NPT stage, ions are
changing there position even though I applied position restraints for the
atoms and ions.

Anyone could help me out.


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Re: [gmx-users] Calculating diffusion coefficient in three dimension

2013-11-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/12/13 12:30 PM, Venkat Reddy wrote:

Dear Sir, Thanks for the quick reply.
So, I have to declare -type no flag. Isn't it??


The options for the -type flag are x, y, or z.  You said you wanted the 
diffusion coefficient in each spatial dimension.  That is precisely what this 
option will do.



and I have recently gone through Justin's membrane protein tutorial, where


You mean my tutorial :)


he has calculated diffusion coefficient for lipids in a membrane by
creating an index group for a particular atom. So, here also shall I do the
same thing? Moreover, mine is a coarse-grained system.



Yes, a representative atom is usually what is passed to g_msd.

-Justin




On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 11/12/13 11:25 AM, Venkat Reddy wrote:


Then, how to mention the direction for spherical particles Sir?



Read g_msd -h again, paying specific attention to the -type flag.


-Justin



On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 11/12/13 8:55 AM, Venkat Reddy wrote:

  Thank you sir for the prompt reply.

*g_msd -f traj.xtc -s topol.tpr -n msd.ndx -lateral z -o msd.xvg -tu ns*

Here I am giving -lateral z (like for membrane simulations). Is it fine
for
spherical systems also?



  No.  The system is a sphere, so what use is it to calculate motion

perpendicular to z when you have lipids moving in all three spatial
dimensions?  A vesicle is very different from a membrane, in which the
lipids move in a plane, thus making -lateral z useful.

-Justin


   On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com


wrote:




   MSD is 3D by default.




Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:01 AM, Venkat Reddy venkat...@gmail.com
wrote:

  Dear all,

I am simulating a spherical lipid vesicle. I want to calculate the
diffusion coefficient for each lipid component in 3D. How to calculate
it
using g_msd (or any other tool like g_velacc)?

Thank you for your concern

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Re: [gmx-users] Change in the positon of structural Zinc and calcium ions during MD

2013-11-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/12/13 12:35 PM, Rama wrote:


Hi Gromacs users,

I'm doing protein-Bilayer MD simulations. Enzyme contains structural zinc
and calcium ions during Energy minimization, NVT and NPT stage, ions are
changing there position even though I applied position restraints for the
atoms and ions.

Anyone could help me out.



If the atoms are moving drastically, then the position restraints aren't taking 
effect, either because they haven't been invoked or they are insufficient. 
Without your full .mdp file and relevant topology snippets, there's no real way 
to know.  You can check the .log files, too - if there is not an energy 
component corresponding to position restraints, they haven't been activated.


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Re: [gmx-users] Calculating diffusion coefficient in three dimension

2013-11-12 Thread Venkat Reddy
Thanks Justin. So, I have to calculate diffusion coefficient three times
(x,y,z) and finally add-up together to get in 3D???


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/12/13 12:30 PM, Venkat Reddy wrote:

 Dear Sir, Thanks for the quick reply.
 So, I have to declare -type no flag. Isn't it??


 The options for the -type flag are x, y, or z.  You said you wanted the
 diffusion coefficient in each spatial dimension.  That is precisely what
 this option will do.


  and I have recently gone through Justin's membrane protein tutorial, where


 You mean my tutorial :)


  he has calculated diffusion coefficient for lipids in a membrane by
 creating an index group for a particular atom. So, here also shall I do
 the
 same thing? Moreover, mine is a coarse-grained system.


 Yes, a representative atom is usually what is passed to g_msd.


 -Justin



 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/12/13 11:25 AM, Venkat Reddy wrote:

  Then, how to mention the direction for spherical particles Sir?


  Read g_msd -h again, paying specific attention to the -type flag.


 -Justin


  On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/12/13 8:55 AM, Venkat Reddy wrote:

   Thank you sir for the prompt reply.

 *g_msd -f traj.xtc -s topol.tpr -n msd.ndx -lateral z -o msd.xvg -tu
 ns*

 Here I am giving -lateral z (like for membrane simulations). Is it
 fine
 for
 spherical systems also?



   No.  The system is a sphere, so what use is it to calculate motion

 perpendicular to z when you have lipids moving in all three spatial
 dimensions?  A vesicle is very different from a membrane, in which the
 lipids move in a plane, thus making -lateral z useful.

 -Justin


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban 
 vvcha...@gmail.com

  wrote:



MSD is 3D by default.



 Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban


 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:01 AM, Venkat Reddy venkat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

   Dear all,

 I am simulating a spherical lipid vesicle. I want to calculate the
 diffusion coefficient for each lipid component in 3D. How to
 calculate
 it
 using g_msd (or any other tool like g_velacc)?

 Thank you for your concern

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Re: [gmx-users] Calculating diffusion coefficient in three dimension

2013-11-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/12/13 1:33 PM, Venkat Reddy wrote:

Thanks Justin. So, I have to calculate diffusion coefficient three times
(x,y,z) and finally add-up together to get in 3D???



If you just want the overall diffusion constant, that's what g_msd does without 
any additional options.


-Justin



On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 11/12/13 12:30 PM, Venkat Reddy wrote:


Dear Sir, Thanks for the quick reply.
So, I have to declare -type no flag. Isn't it??



The options for the -type flag are x, y, or z.  You said you wanted the
diffusion coefficient in each spatial dimension.  That is precisely what
this option will do.


  and I have recently gone through Justin's membrane protein tutorial, where




You mean my tutorial :)


  he has calculated diffusion coefficient for lipids in a membrane by

creating an index group for a particular atom. So, here also shall I do
the
same thing? Moreover, mine is a coarse-grained system.



Yes, a representative atom is usually what is passed to g_msd.


-Justin




On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 11/12/13 11:25 AM, Venkat Reddy wrote:

  Then, how to mention the direction for spherical particles Sir?



  Read g_msd -h again, paying specific attention to the -type flag.



-Justin


  On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:





On 11/12/13 8:55 AM, Venkat Reddy wrote:

   Thank you sir for the prompt reply.


*g_msd -f traj.xtc -s topol.tpr -n msd.ndx -lateral z -o msd.xvg -tu
ns*

Here I am giving -lateral z (like for membrane simulations). Is it
fine
for
spherical systems also?



   No.  The system is a sphere, so what use is it to calculate motion


perpendicular to z when you have lipids moving in all three spatial
dimensions?  A vesicle is very different from a membrane, in which the
lipids move in a plane, thus making -lateral z useful.

-Justin


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban 
vvcha...@gmail.com

  wrote:






MSD is 3D by default.




Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:01 AM, Venkat Reddy venkat...@gmail.com
wrote:

   Dear all,


I am simulating a spherical lipid vesicle. I want to calculate the
diffusion coefficient for each lipid component in 3D. How to
calculate
it
using g_msd (or any other tool like g_velacc)?

Thank you for your concern

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[gmx-users] Re: Change in the position of structural Zinc and calcium ions during MD

2013-11-12 Thread Rama
Hi Justin,

Below I pasted .mdp file and topology. In .log file I could see energy term
for position restraints.

.mdp file---
title   = NPT Equilibration 
define  = -DPOSRES  ; position restraints for protein
; Run parameters
integrator  = md; leap-frog integrator
nsteps  = 50; 2 * 50 = 1000 ps (1 ns)
dt  = 0.002 ; 2 fs
; Output control
nstxout = 500   ; save coordinates every 1 ps
nstvout = 500   ; save velocities every 1 ps
nstenergy   = 500   ; save energies every 1 ps
nstlog  = 500   ; update log file every 1 ps
; Bond parameters
continuation= yes   ; Restarting after NVT 
constraint_algorithm = lincs; holonomic constraints 
constraints = all-bonds ; all bonds (even heavy atom-H bonds)
constrained
lincs_iter  = 1 ; accuracy of LINCS
lincs_order = 4 ; also related to accuracy
; Neighborsearching
ns_type = grid  ; search neighboring grid cels
nstlist = 5 ; 10 fs
rlist   = 1.2   ; short-range neighborlist cutoff (in nm)
rcoulomb= 1.2   ; short-range electrostatic cutoff (in nm)
rvdw= 1.2   ; short-range van der Waals cutoff (in nm)
; Electrostatics
coulombtype = PME   ; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range 
electrostatics
pme_order   = 4 ; cubic interpolation
fourierspacing  = 0.16  ; grid spacing for FFT
; Temperature coupling is on
tcoupl  = Nose-Hoover   ; More accurate thermostat
tc-grps =  Protein_CA_ZN   DMPC   SOL_CL; three coupling groups 
- more
accurate
tau_t   =   0.50.5 0.5  ; time constant, in ps
ref_t   =   298298 310  ; reference 
temperature, one for
each group, in K
; Pressure coupling is on
pcoupl  = Parrinello-Rahman ; Pressure coupling on in NPT
pcoupltype  = semiisotropic ; uniform scaling of x-y box 
vectors,
independent z
tau_p   = 5.0   ; time constant, in ps
ref_p   = 1.0   1.0 ; reference pressure, x-y, z 
(in bar)
compressibility = 4.5e-54.5e-5  ; isothermal compressibility, bar^-1
; Periodic boundary conditions
pbc = xyz   ; 3-D PBC
; Dispersion correction
DispCorr= EnerPres  ; account for cut-off vdW scheme
; Velocity generation
gen_vel = no; Velocity generation is off
; COM motion removal
; These options remove motion of the protein/bilayer relative to the
solvent/ions
nstcomm = 1
comm-mode   = Linear
comm-grps   = Protein_DMPC SOL_CL
; Scale COM of reference coordinates
refcoord_scaling = com


topol.top
; Include Position restraint file
#ifdef POSRES
#include posre.itp
#endif

; Strong position restraints for InflateGRO
#ifdef STRONG_POSRES
#include strong_posre.itp
#endif

; Include DMPC topology
 #include rama4LJ.ff/dmpcLJ.itp

; Include water topology
#include rama4LJ.ff/spc.itp

#ifdef POSRES_WATER
; Position restraint for each water oxygen
[ position_restraints ]
;  i funct   fcxfcyfcz
   11   1000   1000   1000
#endif

; Include topology for ions
#include rama4LJ.ff/ions.itp

---.log file
   Energies (kJ/mol)
  AngleProper Dih. Ryckaert-Bell.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14
1.77761e+043.10548e+037.97673e+034.40586e+028.14131e+03
 Coulomb-14LJ (SR)  Disper. corr.   Coulomb (SR)   Coul. recip.
2.59758e+042.74092e+04   -2.56846e+03   -4.68637e+05   -1.67418e+05
 Position Rest.  PotentialKinetic En.   Total EnergyTemperature
7.09403e+02   -5.47088e+058.83115e+04   -4.58777e+053.07118e+02
 Pres. DC (bar) Pressure (bar)   Constr. rmsd
   -2.00493e+021.00080e+000.0e+00


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Re: [gmx-users] Calculating diffusion coefficient in three dimension

2013-11-12 Thread Thomas Piggot

Hi Venkat,

Can you make it a bit clearer what you actually want?

If it is the diffusion of the lipids along the curved surface of the 
vesicle, rather than simply the overall 3D diffusion, this is not 
trivial to calculate as I don't believe g_msd will do this for you. This 
property has been studied before though, so I suggest you search the 
literature for papers simulating vesicles to see how the lipid diffusion 
was calculated.


Cheers

Tom

On 11/12/2013 06:35 PM, Justin Lemkul wrote:



On 11/12/13 1:33 PM, Venkat Reddy wrote:

Thanks Justin. So, I have to calculate diffusion coefficient three times
(x,y,z) and finally add-up together to get in 3D???



If you just want the overall diffusion constant, that's what g_msd 
does without any additional options.


-Justin



On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 11/12/13 12:30 PM, Venkat Reddy wrote:


Dear Sir, Thanks for the quick reply.
So, I have to declare -type no flag. Isn't it??



The options for the -type flag are x, y, or z.  You said you wanted the
diffusion coefficient in each spatial dimension.  That is precisely 
what

this option will do.


  and I have recently gone through Justin's membrane protein 
tutorial, where




You mean my tutorial :)


  he has calculated diffusion coefficient for lipids in a membrane by
creating an index group for a particular atom. So, here also shall 
I do

the
same thing? Moreover, mine is a coarse-grained system.



Yes, a representative atom is usually what is passed to g_msd.


-Justin




On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu 
wrote:





On 11/12/13 11:25 AM, Venkat Reddy wrote:

  Then, how to mention the direction for spherical particles Sir?



  Read g_msd -h again, paying specific attention to the -type flag.



-Justin


  On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu 
wrote:





On 11/12/13 8:55 AM, Venkat Reddy wrote:

   Thank you sir for the prompt reply.

*g_msd -f traj.xtc -s topol.tpr -n msd.ndx -lateral z -o 
msd.xvg -tu

ns*

Here I am giving -lateral z (like for membrane simulations). Is it
fine
for
spherical systems also?



   No.  The system is a sphere, so what use is it to calculate 
motion



perpendicular to z when you have lipids moving in all three spatial
dimensions?  A vesicle is very different from a membrane, in 
which the

lipids move in a plane, thus making -lateral z useful.

-Justin


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban 
vvcha...@gmail.com

  wrote:






MSD is 3D by default.




Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:01 AM, Venkat Reddy 
venkat...@gmail.com

wrote:

   Dear all,

I am simulating a spherical lipid vesicle. I want to 
calculate the

diffusion coefficient for each lipid component in 3D. How to
calculate
it
using g_msd (or any other tool like g_velacc)?

Thank you for your concern

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Re: mdrun on 8-core AMD + GTX TITAN (was: Re: [gmx-users] Re: Gromacs-4.6 on two Titans GPUs)

2013-11-12 Thread Dwey Kauffman
Hi Mark and Szilard

Thanks for your both suggestions. They are very helpful.


 Neither run had a PP-PME work distribution suitable for the hardware it
 was
 running on (and fixing that for each run requires opposite changes).
 Adding
 a GPU and hoping to see scaling requires that there be proportionately
 more
 GPU work available to do, *and* enough absolute work to do. mdrun tries to
 do this, and reports early in the log file, which is one of the reasons
 Szilard asked to see whole log files - please use a file sharing service
 to
 do that.


This task involves GPU calculation. We would not see PP-PME work
distribution.
This is a good hint from the angle of PP-PME work distribution.  And I
guessed that two GPUs' calculations are fast / or no enough work for GPU
calculation, which is aligned with your explanation.
 
Please see logs below again.

 ONE GPU##

http://pastebin.com/B6bRUVSa

 TWO GPUs##
http://pastebin.com/SLAYnejP
 

 As you can see, this test was made on the same node regardless of
  networking.  Can the performance be improved  say 50% more when 2 GPUs
 are
  used on a general task ?  If yes, how ?
 
  Indeed, as Richard pointed out, I was asking for *full* logs, these
  summaries can't tell much, the table above the summary entitled R E A
  L   C Y C L E   A N D   T I M E   A C C O U N T I N G as well as
  other reported information across the log file is what I need to make
  an assessment of your simulations' performance.
 
  Please see below.
 
  However, in your case I suspect that the
  bottleneck is multi-threaded scaling on the AMD CPUs and you should
  probably decrease the number of threads per MPI rank and share GPUs
  between 2-4 ranks.
 
  After I test all three clusters, I found it may NOT be an issue of AMD
  cpus.
  Intel cpus has the SAME scaling issue.
 
  However, I am curious as to how you justify the setup of 2-4 ranks
 sharing
  GPUs ? Can you please explain it a bit more ?
 

 NUMA effects on multi-socket AMD processors are particularly severe; the
 way GROMACS uses OpenMP is not well suited to them. Using a rank (or two)
 per socket will greatly reduce those effects, but introduces different
 algorithmic overhead from the need to do DD and explicitly communicate
 between ranks. (You can see the latter in your .log file snippets below.)
 Also, that means the parcel of PP work available from a rank to give to
 the
 GPU is smaller, which is the opposite of what you'd like for GPU
 performance and/or scaling. We are working on a general solution for this
 and lots of related issues in the post-5.0 space, but there is a very hard
 limitation imposed by the need to amortize the cost of CPU-GPU transfer by
 having lots of PP work available to do.


Is this reason why the scaling of two GPUs won't happen because of smaller
PP workload ?
From the implication, I am wondering if we can increase PP workload through
parameters in a mdp file.  The question is what parameters are mostly
related to PP workload ? Would you please give more specific suggestions ?  



  NOTE: The GPU has 20% more load than the CPU. This imbalance causes
performance loss, consider using a shorter cut-off and a finer PME
  grid.
 

 This note needs to be addressed before maximum throughput is achieved and
 the question of scaling is worth considering. Ideally, Wait GPU local
 should be nearly zero, achieved as suggested above. Note that
 launch+force+mesh+wait is the sum of gpu total! But much of the
 information
 needed is higher up the log file, and the whole question is constrained by
 things like rvdw.


From the note, it clearly suggested a shorter cut-off and a finer PME grid.
I am not sure how to set up a finer PME grid but I am able to set up shorter
cut-offs . However, it is risky to do so based on others' reports.
 
Indeed, I see differences among tests for 1 GPU.
Here cutoffs refer to rlist, rvdw and rcoulomb.  

I found that the smaller values of cutoffs, the faster computations.
The question is how small they can go because  it is interesting to know if
these different cutoffs generate equally good simulations.

As to  two GPUs, when I set up larger cut-offs,  these two GPUs in the same
node had been very busy.   However, the outcome in such a configuration is
worse in terms of ns/day and time.

So what dose a finer PME grid mean, with respect to GPU workload ?

You mention the sum of GPU total is  launch + force + mesh + wait.I
thought PME mesh is carried out by CPU instead of GPU. Do I miss something
here ?
I thought  GPU is responsible for the calculation of short-ranged non-bonded
force whereas CPU is responsible for that of bonded and PME long-ranged
force.  Can you clarify it here ?

Also, would rvdw play an important role in improving the performance of GPU
calculation ?


 
 Unfortunately you didn't copy the GPU timing stuff here! Roughly, all the
 performance gain you are seeing here is eliminating most of the single-GPU
 wait gpu term by throwing 

Re: [gmx-users] Re: Change in the position of structural Zinc and calcium ions during MD

2013-11-12 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/12/13 1:47 PM, Rama wrote:

Hi Justin,

Below I pasted .mdp file and topology. In .log file I could see energy term
for position restraints.

.mdp file---
title   = NPT Equilibration
define  = -DPOSRES  ; position restraints for protein
; Run parameters
integrator  = md; leap-frog integrator
nsteps  = 50; 2 * 50 = 1000 ps (1 ns)
dt  = 0.002 ; 2 fs
; Output control
nstxout = 500   ; save coordinates every 1 ps
nstvout = 500   ; save velocities every 1 ps
nstenergy   = 500   ; save energies every 1 ps
nstlog  = 500   ; update log file every 1 ps
; Bond parameters
continuation= yes   ; Restarting after NVT
constraint_algorithm = lincs; holonomic constraints
constraints = all-bonds ; all bonds (even heavy atom-H bonds)
constrained
lincs_iter  = 1 ; accuracy of LINCS
lincs_order = 4 ; also related to accuracy
; Neighborsearching
ns_type = grid  ; search neighboring grid cels
nstlist = 5 ; 10 fs
rlist   = 1.2   ; short-range neighborlist cutoff (in nm)
rcoulomb= 1.2   ; short-range electrostatic cutoff (in nm)
rvdw= 1.2   ; short-range van der Waals cutoff (in nm)
; Electrostatics
coulombtype = PME   ; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range 
electrostatics
pme_order   = 4 ; cubic interpolation
fourierspacing  = 0.16  ; grid spacing for FFT
; Temperature coupling is on
tcoupl  = Nose-Hoover   ; More accurate thermostat
tc-grps =  Protein_CA_ZN   DMPC   SOL_CL; three coupling groups 
- more
accurate
tau_t   =   0.50.5 0.5  ; time constant, in ps
ref_t   =   298298 310  ; reference 
temperature, one for
each group, in K
; Pressure coupling is on
pcoupl  = Parrinello-Rahman ; Pressure coupling on in NPT
pcoupltype  = semiisotropic ; uniform scaling of x-y box 
vectors,
independent z
tau_p   = 5.0   ; time constant, in ps
ref_p   = 1.0   1.0 ; reference pressure, x-y, z 
(in bar)
compressibility = 4.5e-54.5e-5  ; isothermal compressibility, bar^-1
; Periodic boundary conditions
pbc = xyz   ; 3-D PBC
; Dispersion correction
DispCorr= EnerPres  ; account for cut-off vdW scheme
; Velocity generation
gen_vel = no; Velocity generation is off
; COM motion removal
; These options remove motion of the protein/bilayer relative to the
solvent/ions
nstcomm = 1
comm-mode   = Linear
comm-grps   = Protein_DMPC SOL_CL
; Scale COM of reference coordinates
refcoord_scaling = com


topol.top
; Include Position restraint file
#ifdef POSRES
#include posre.itp
#endif

; Strong position restraints for InflateGRO
#ifdef STRONG_POSRES
#include strong_posre.itp
#endif

; Include DMPC topology
  #include rama4LJ.ff/dmpcLJ.itp

; Include water topology
#include rama4LJ.ff/spc.itp

#ifdef POSRES_WATER
; Position restraint for each water oxygen
[ position_restraints ]
;  i funct   fcxfcyfcz
11   1000   1000   1000
#endif

; Include topology for ions
#include rama4LJ.ff/ions.itp



Do you have appropriate [position_restraints] assigned in this topology?  None 
of the above, as shown, pertains to the ions, and the only relevant #ifdef block 
that would be triggered by -DPOSRES is for the protein.


-Justin


---.log file
Energies (kJ/mol)
   AngleProper Dih. Ryckaert-Bell.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14
 1.77761e+043.10548e+037.97673e+034.40586e+028.14131e+03
  Coulomb-14LJ (SR)  Disper. corr.   Coulomb (SR)   Coul. recip.
 2.59758e+042.74092e+04   -2.56846e+03   -4.68637e+05   -1.67418e+05
  Position Rest.  PotentialKinetic En.   Total EnergyTemperature
 7.09403e+02   -5.47088e+058.83115e+04   -4.58777e+053.07118e+02
  Pres. DC (bar) Pressure (bar)   Constr. rmsd
-2.00493e+021.00080e+000.0e+00


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[gmx-users] help about ibi

2013-11-12 Thread guozhicheng222
Hi:

When I am running the ibi procedure, I get the following error message:

 

 A coordinate in file conf.gro does not 
contain a '.'

Additionally, I check the coordinate file of confout.gro in step_001. It showed 
that 'nan' symbol appeared in confout.gro.

What is wrong with this? How can I fix it? I am very appreciating for anyone's 
help.

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Re: [gmx-users] Calculating diffusion coefficient in three dimension

2013-11-12 Thread Venkat Reddy
Dear Justin and Piggot,
Thanks for the suggestions. Actually, I have constructed a CG lipid vesicle
by placing lipids in random conformation in a simulation box. My lipid
system is heterogeneous, i.e., it has different types of lipids
(POPC,CHOLESTEROL,PPC...etc). Some of them occupy the outer layer of
vesicle (POPC), and some stay in the intermediate region (CHOL). So, I want
to calculate the diffusion rates of these lipids. Since POPC forms the
surface (polar heads interacting with water and their tails points to the
core), I suppose we have to calculate 2D diffusion for POPC. For the lipids
in the core, they can diffuse in 3-dimension. So, it requires a 3D
diffusion coefficient for these core lipids. How to calculate 2D and 3D
diffusion coeff.? Hope I am clear.


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Thomas Piggot t.pig...@soton.ac.ukwrote:

 Hi Venkat,

 Can you make it a bit clearer what you actually want?

 If it is the diffusion of the lipids along the curved surface of the
 vesicle, rather than simply the overall 3D diffusion, this is not trivial
 to calculate as I don't believe g_msd will do this for you. This property
 has been studied before though, so I suggest you search the literature for
 papers simulating vesicles to see how the lipid diffusion was calculated.

 Cheers

 Tom


 On 11/12/2013 06:35 PM, Justin Lemkul wrote:



 On 11/12/13 1:33 PM, Venkat Reddy wrote:

 Thanks Justin. So, I have to calculate diffusion coefficient three times
 (x,y,z) and finally add-up together to get in 3D???


 If you just want the overall diffusion constant, that's what g_msd does
 without any additional options.

 -Justin


 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/12/13 12:30 PM, Venkat Reddy wrote:

  Dear Sir, Thanks for the quick reply.
 So, I have to declare -type no flag. Isn't it??


 The options for the -type flag are x, y, or z.  You said you wanted the
 diffusion coefficient in each spatial dimension.  That is precisely what
 this option will do.


   and I have recently gone through Justin's membrane protein tutorial,
 where



 You mean my tutorial :)


   he has calculated diffusion coefficient for lipids in a membrane by

 creating an index group for a particular atom. So, here also shall I do
 the
 same thing? Moreover, mine is a coarse-grained system.


  Yes, a representative atom is usually what is passed to g_msd.


 -Justin



 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:



 On 11/12/13 11:25 AM, Venkat Reddy wrote:

   Then, how to mention the direction for spherical particles Sir?



   Read g_msd -h again, paying specific attention to the -type flag.



 -Justin


   On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:




  On 11/12/13 8:55 AM, Venkat Reddy wrote:

Thank you sir for the prompt reply.

  *g_msd -f traj.xtc -s topol.tpr -n msd.ndx -lateral z -o msd.xvg
 -tu
 ns*

 Here I am giving -lateral z (like for membrane simulations). Is it
 fine
 for
 spherical systems also?



No.  The system is a sphere, so what use is it to calculate
 motion

  perpendicular to z when you have lipids moving in all three
 spatial
 dimensions?  A vesicle is very different from a membrane, in which
 the
 lipids move in a plane, thus making -lateral z useful.

 -Justin


 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban 
 vvcha...@gmail.com

   wrote:




  MSD is 3D by default.



 Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban


 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:01 AM, Venkat Reddy 
 venkat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

Dear all,

  I am simulating a spherical lipid vesicle. I want to calculate
 the
 diffusion coefficient for each lipid component in 3D. How to
 calculate
 it
 using g_msd (or any other tool like g_velacc)?

 Thank you for your concern

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[gmx-users] Re: Bilayer COM removal issue: Large VCM

2013-11-12 Thread rajat desikan
Hi All,
Any suggestions?

Thanks,


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:38 AM, rajat desikan rajatdesi...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi All,
 I am experiencing a few problems in membrane simulations wrt COM removal.
 I downloaded a 400 ns pre-equilibrated Slipid-DMPC membrane with all the
 accompanying files. I then carried out the following steps:
 1) energy minimization
 2) NVT Eq - 100 ps
 3) NPT Eq - 250 ps (Berendsen temp, Pres coupling)

 Then I used g_select to select the upper and lower DMPC leaflets. The then
 carried out a 250 ps NPT eq again. The only change was:
 comm-grps= SOL DMPC ==
 comm-grps= SOL upper lower

 On every step in log file, I get the following message:













 *Step   Time Lambda 124000
 248.00.0 Large VCM(group lower): -0.00051,
 -0.00515, -0.00652, Temp-cm:  8.11828e+29   Energies
 (kJ/mol)U-BProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14
 Coulomb-147.23818e+044.19778e+046.46641e+024.54801e+03
 -1.45245e+05 LJ (SR)LJ (LR)  Disper. corr.   Coulomb (SR)
 Coul. recip.2.79689e+04   -3.78407e+03   -2.10679e+03   -5.84134e+05
 -8.87497e+04  PotentialKinetic En.   Total EnergyTemperature
 Pres. DC (bar)-6.76497e+051.76468e+05   -5.00029e+05
 3.10424e+02   -1.05704e+02 Pressure (bar)   Constr. rmsd   -1.85927e+02
 6.42934e-06*









 *Large VCM(group lower): -0.00187, -0.00369,  0.00032,
 Temp-cm:  2.02076e+29 Large VCM(group lower): -0.00725,
 -0.00278, -0.00549, Temp-cm:  1.05988e+30Large VCM(group lower):
 0.00020,  0.00308, -0.00176, Temp-cm:  1.48126e+29Large VCM(group
 lower): -0.00541,  0.00546, -0.00166, Temp-cm:  7.24656e+29
 Large VCM(group lower): -0.00220,  0.00362, -0.00741, Temp-cm:
 8.53812e+29Large VCM(group lower):  0.00140, -0.00160,
 0.00029, Temp-cm:  5.39679e+28Large VCM(group lower): -0.00056,
 -0.00293, -0.00364, Temp-cm:  2.59422e+29 Large VCM(group lower):
 -0.00172, -0.00260,  0.00494, Temp-cm:  3.99945e+29Large VCM(group
 lower):  0.00252,  0.00594,  0.00068, Temp-cm:  4.93342e+29*
 *DD  step 124999  vol min/aver 0.702  load imb.: force  1.3%  pme
 mesh/force 0.636*

 I do not know what to make of it. There are no issues when I remove COM
 for the entire system. I have seen this issue come up a few times in the
 archives too, but I didn't find a satisfactory solution since the bilayer
 was very well equilibrated.

 I would appreciate any suggestions. Thank you.


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 Dept. of Chemical Engineering,
 Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore




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