Re: total newbie question

2002-04-16 Thread Jerry Feldman
Remember that Unix systems have a hierachial directory system. The PATH variable tells the system (specifically the shell) where and how to search for commands. Additionally, Unix, unlike Mac and Windows9x, is a multi-user system. Each user has their own directory tree. Let's say on a large

Informational GNHLUG Post

2002-04-16 Thread Paul Courchene
Dan Coutu Your recent post on the PATH variable was excellent (and informative for many). Thanks for taking the time to post an informational message to the GNLUG Mail List. We need more quality posts rather than those of rants or perhaps bordering on generalities. paulc

Newbie Advice

2002-04-16 Thread Paul Courchene
Michael Bovee wrote: Maybe I just need a more basic intro book? Maybe I should just learn OS X and go away!? :0) No, don't go away. Hang in there, you'll have more fun with Linux. paulc * To unsubscribe from this list, send

Re: PATH (was total newbie)

2002-04-16 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Michael Bovee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: echo $PATH returns the following info -- (linebreaks chosen for clarity, I hope) /usr/local/us/bin:/usr/local/qt/bin:/usr/local/us/bin: /usr/local/us/bin:/usr/local/qt/bin:/usr/local/us/bin: /usr/local/us/bin:/usr/local/qt/bin:/usr/local/us/bin:

Re: Emacs questions

2002-04-16 Thread pll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In a message dated: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:52:10 EDT Derek D. Martin said: None whatsoever, but I'd like to offer a perspective on why it might be useful to leave that behavior alone... If you're not the

Re: PATH (was total newbie)

2002-04-16 Thread Jerry Feldman
sbin and /usr/sbin is not normally placed into the path of a regular user. You can execute any Unix command by specifying it's full path: /sbin/lilo for instance. The reason for this is that /sbin and /usr/sbin are normally used for system management. On 16 Apr 2002 at 8:28, Michael Bovee

Re: Linux, Windows(tm), taxes - and privacy. A personal narrative (long)

2002-04-16 Thread pll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Bill, Thanks for the great write-up! You might want to organize that into a magazine article and submit it to LJ, I'm sure many other people out there would be interested in hearing of your success!

Re: total newbie question

2002-04-16 Thread pll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In a message dated: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 18:55:00 EDT Derek D. Martin said: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If you can't find a command, try $ whereis command If that doesn't turn it up, try

Re: PATH (was total newbie)

2002-04-16 Thread pll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In a message dated: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 08:28:55 EDT Michael Bovee said: Well, the encouraging replies from Derek M., Dan C., and Benjamin S. have turned my frown upside down! (thanks for tolerating my

Re: PATH (was total newbie)

2002-04-16 Thread Tom Buskey
Michael Bovee said: Simply put, my PATH is really hosed up! /sbin nowhere to be found. No wonder I've been having so much trouble! But let me back up briefly and provide info that may be useful for troubleshooters: echo $PATH returns the following info -- (linebreaks chosen for clarity, I

Re: PATH (was total newbie)

2002-04-16 Thread Michael O'Donnell
FWIW... I've worked at so many places with so many screwed up PATH definitions that I've basically just collected (don't laugh!) all likely PATH components from every place I've ever worked in a list. When I start working somewhere new I first execute my pathPreen() function (after suitably

Re: PATH (was total newbie)

2002-04-16 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Michael Bovee wrote: =Well, the encouraging replies from Derek M., Dan C., and Benjamin S. =have turned my frown upside down! (thanks for tolerating my whiney =tone yesterday) I have long felt that the standard way for people to set their PATH variables (in fact all colon

Re: Linux, Windows(tm), taxes - and privacy. A personal narrative (long)

2002-04-16 Thread Bayard Coolidge USG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: So far Codeweaver's works great. There are some minor flaws and bugs. http://www.theregus.com/content/4/24653.html is a review of Codeweaver, posted at 10:11 EST (?!?) this morning... b. * To

Re: Linux, Windows(tm), taxes - and privacy. A personal narrative (long)

2002-04-16 Thread pll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In a message dated: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 11:47:48 EDT Bayard Coolidge USG said: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: So far Codeweaver's works great. There are some minor flaws and bugs.

Re: Linux, Windows(tm), taxes, etc.

2002-04-16 Thread Bill Sconce
Thanks to everyone who wrote (and to anyone who actually read the whole thing! :) My article yesterday was a pastiche. My motivation initially had been to talk about how Linux is helpful with online privacy issues - but once I started, I discovered that I had to talk about how good Libranet

BSD distro for MacOSX?

2002-04-16 Thread michael bovee
After checking out the Fink project at sourceforge.net I decided to asked my friend who wrote UltraScan for linux whether it might soon be possible to run his software 'directly' under OSX. (He is planning to make a commercial version for MacOSX users) He replied: I don't think it is quite

Re: BSD distro for MacOSX?

2002-04-16 Thread pll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In a message dated: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 13:54:35 EDT michael bovee said: After checking out the Fink project at sourceforge.net I decided to asked my friend who wrote UltraScan for linux whether it might

root PATH, double posts

2002-04-16 Thread michael bovee
Hope I'm not getting on any nerves yet with my PATH questions, but anyway my PATH as seen when logged in as root is -- /usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin seems like I can just leave that alone... Another thing -- I'm getting double posts from a lot of people, including Paul L. Is

Re: root PATH, double posts

2002-04-16 Thread Matthew J. Brodeur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, michael bovee wrote: Hope I'm not getting on any nerves yet with my PATH questions, but anyway my PATH as seen when logged in as root is -- /usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin seems like I can just leave that

Re: root PATH, double posts

2002-04-16 Thread pll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In a message dated: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:06:42 EDT michael bovee said: Hope I'm not getting on any nerves yet with my PATH questions, but anyway my PATH as seen when logged in as root is --

Re: BSD distro for MacOSX?

2002-04-16 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Recent versions of FreeBSD can run Linux binaries. Darwin is based on BSD 4.4 and FreeBSD (version 3.2?) . Can anybody confirm or deny that OS X can run Linux binaries? I've heard that it can, to some extent (with the usual caveats). Thanks, --kevin -- Kevin D. Clark

Re: root PATH, double posts

2002-04-16 Thread Jerry Feldman
Having run email listservs for over 10 years (majordomo and mailman), I have never seen a problem where majordomo sends a message twice. Most of the time, the respondent does a reply all. When you have a duplicate, look into the message headers. These will tell you how the message was sent.

Sparc Linux distro

2002-04-16 Thread Cole Tuininga
I've recently become (luckily or unluckily, depending on your view) the recipient of an old Sparc 5 that I would like to set up as a linux server in my home network. What I'm looking for is if anybody has any experience with distros that are *still being maintained* for the sparc architecture?

Re: Sparc Linux distro

2002-04-16 Thread pll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In a message dated: 16 Apr 2002 15:57:06 EDT Cole Tuininga said: I've recently become (luckily or unluckily, depending on your view) the recipient of an old Sparc 5 that I would like to set up as a linux

Re: Sparc Linux distro

2002-04-16 Thread Ed Robbins
I have SuSe 7.3 running on several Sun machines. Which version of the 5 do you have 120 - 170? There was a problem loading Linux on the 170, I used to have to load it on a 120 and move the drives to the 170. Ed On Tuesday 16 April 2002 15:57, you wrote: I've recently become (luckily or

Re: Sparc Linux distro

2002-04-16 Thread Rich Payne
I have woody running nicely on an Ultima 1. I think I actually installed potato then did an apt-get dist upgrade. --rdp On 16 Apr 2002, Cole Tuininga wrote: I've recently become (luckily or unluckily, depending on your view) the recipient of an old Sparc 5 that I would like to set up as

Re: Sparc Linux distro

2002-04-16 Thread pll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In a message dated: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 16:21:02 EDT Rich Payne said: I have woody running nicely on an Ultima 1. I think I actually installed potato then did an apt-get dist upgrade. That's what I've been

Re: Sparc Linux distro

2002-04-16 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Tue, 2002-04-16 at 15:06, Ed Robbins wrote: I have SuSe 7.3 running on several Sun machines. Which version of the 5 do you have 120 - 170? There was a problem loading Linux on the 170, I used to have to load it on a 120 and move the drives to the 170. Honestly, I have no idea. 8) How

Re: Sparc Linux distro

2002-04-16 Thread Andrew W. Gaunt
My sparc-20 is running debian. Works great. I had some trouble last year with pppd and dual CPU's so I pared it down to one CPU. Now that I've got a cable modem maybe I'll try putting it back. Hm... home$ uname -a Linux home 2.2.17 #8 SMP Fri Feb 9 12:54:41 EST 2001 sparc unknown home$

Re: BSD distro for MacOSX?

2002-04-16 Thread Rich C
- Original Message - From: Kevin D. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 7:38 PM Subject: Re: BSD distro for MacOSX? Can anybody confirm or deny that OS X can run Linux binaries? I've heard that it can, to some extent (with the usual caveats).

Re: Sparc Linux distro

2002-04-16 Thread Tom Buskey
Sparc 5s came in 70, 85, 110, and 170 MHz. The 170 is called the Turbo and is a bit different. On the back there's a model number. The 85s and 110s all have -85 or -110. I've never seen a 170, but I bet that has it too. The 70s do not have -70. I've been playing with an LX I got off

Re: Sparc Linux distro

2002-04-16 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Rich Payne hath spake thusly: I have woody running nicely on an Ultima 1 Great game! Though I liked Ultima III better, and Ultima Online really rocked, until I started to resent the $10/mo. charge for playing. -- Derek Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Fight list header cancer (was: root PATH, double posts)

2002-04-16 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, at 3:13pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it's just the way things happen to working. When someone replies and hits Reply All' it replies to both the original sender (whoever's listed in the From: line) and to the original recipient of the e-mail (the list in this case).

Re: Fight list header cancer (was: root PATH, double posts)

2002-04-16 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Benjamin Scott hath spake thusly: Which means you are sending it to them twice. Any mailing list includes all of its members, by definition; sending to all is redundant. Do your part to fight List Header Cancer, and

Re: Ghostscript and HP Inkjet printers

2002-04-16 Thread Dan Coutu
Dan Coutu wrote: In the never-ending quest to tweak things so that they work just a little bit better I've managed to enhance Ghostscript so much that I can't print anymore. :-( Progress, but it ain't soup yet. Thought I'd update folks on what I've learned so far in case someone else

Re: PATH (was total newbie)

2002-04-16 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, at 9:54am, Bayard Coolidge USG wrote: Dan Coutu mentioned that /sbin is Standalone BINary. I've almost always seen it expanded as system binary, but if you're building a system, I suppose you can say it stands for whatever you want. I once had a guy at UNH tell me it

Re: BSD distro for MacOSX?

2002-04-16 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, at 1:54pm, michael bovee wrote: Any comments? Anyone know of a BSD distribution of linux for OSX? Okay, we're confused. Here are some definitions. (List: Corrections are welcomed.) Operating system: The set of software which gives you a base environment, on top of

Re: BSD distro for MacOSX?

2002-04-16 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, at 2:21pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In order for UltraScan to run under Linux or OSX or BSD all you need is: a. the source for UltraScan b. a decent compiler (gcc ought to do) c. a UNIX based OS. That is rather an over-simplification. I have no

Red Hat root PATH (was: PATH (was total newbie))

2002-04-16 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, at 10:00am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, that's not surprising in the least. I'm going to take a wild guess that this is a RedHat system? They seem to have a knack for not including /sbin in anyone's path, including 'root'! Huh? I'm not an old time Unix hack by any

Online unix system admin course documentation

2002-04-16 Thread Rich Cloutier
I have been studying this for the past few days after I discovered it on the web: http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/edcert/index_long.html It seems to be a very good basic intro to UNIX/Unix/Linux/*BSD and just about any other Ken-Thompson-derived OS out there. Of course you can't take the course on