I'm not missing the point. All holes are not created equal.
While I might agree that there are some holes that are larger than
others, and some systems where there are more holes than others, I apply
the same logic to computer systems that I apply to using a condom to
block STDsany size or
But... only somewhat: Though a program be but three lines long,
someday it will have to be maintained.
the realization came over me with full force that a good part of the
remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own
programs. - Maurice Wilkes, head of the EDSAC project,
Hi,
Two weeks ago I went to Souhegan High School in Amherst to vote, and
while there I looked up their computer technical person (they are mostly
a windows shop, but also have MACs) and offered to do a presentation to
the students and faculty on FOSS and free culture.
They asked their community
RD labrats producing `high-value IP' ...
Yah, right. Like any of those types are going to leave that stuff
behind.
Sure, the rules say they have to leave them behind. The rules are
ignored. Just like the rules about not bringing cell phones into
hospitals, or turning them off
Chrome is also the only browser I know of that is planning on supporting
both H.264/Mp4 and Theora/Vorbis as codecs.
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Firefox 3.6 claims to support the latter (but not both). I
haven't really tried it.
Isn't MP4 patent encumbered?
Yes, not only is MP4 patent encumbered, but if you use the video streams
produced by H.264/MP4 for commercial purposes you have to pay a
royalty for those streams on a per
It sounds to me like that would enable Wave to be used as a
collaborative whiteboard, which makes perfect sense to me.
e.g. mind mapping: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_map
There was (and I assume is) an active discussion group around merging
mind-mapping with Wave functionality, usually
There is a Playback button, which brings up a VCR/web-movie like
control. You can step forward through each change/edit made to a
Wave. It will highlight text edits with strikeouts and colors. This
lets you see the Wave evolve over time. (It's almost exactly like the
Greasemonkey
Because they thought they wouldn't have to find a new solution to
replace the old. And the new one won't last as long.
A very Unix Philosophy type of answer.
AND because the current solution did everything they wanted it to do
(run the payroll)...another Unix-like reason.
md
I to not claim to be in the same league when it comes to networking as
Ben, but I have noticed with some VoIP applications that I use and the
people I call that it is often not the problem with my network.
Some people I call are in far-off places, with really bad dial-up lines
and over time the
I propose the rarely here is a function of the company in question.
Even Apple falls into this category for they did not design every thing
about everything they sell either. To that point, there is rarely a
company worth much more than they are charging across most industries.
=)
The issue is
I have had a Google Wave account for some time through a company that I
work with.
I have found it almost useless, since it does not interact well with
regular email, and since you have to be online to really use it.
Also, unlike some other Google products that had useful real
functionality even
We've got like, 6 of us in the same wave. It's.. My brain
hurts...
To be fair, I also think that Wave does take a bit of getting used to
it.
It is not meant to be like email, where someone types something and
someone else replies.
It is more Wiki-like, where you interject something in the
Free Software doesn't mean it comes without costs, just the costs are
different than a license fee (and a support fee, and an upgrade fee,
and...). If nobody is willing to invest any effort in the stuff they
use, they shouldn't be surprised when it disappears.
Playing devil's advocate again, if
While working on my paper about Linux and Cloud Computing (and thanks
to all the people who sent me input), I went to the VirtualBox site:
http://www.virtualbox.org/
Over in the corner is the News Flash section, where for the past
several months the news flashes start off with:
New November 17,
Ben,
That seems more like it was due to a total lack of interest. Could
it simply be that most everyone has moved to Internet Protocol now?
I agree to a point that the current orphaning of the code in the kernel
is probably due to a total lack of interest, and that there is a good
possibility
Ben,
One other comment:
I think widespread adoption of IP has tended to eliminate less-used
network transports. Why go with something weird, proprietary, and
expensive when you could go with what everybody is using, for free?
I agree. But I also remember that in 1984 DEC was still waiting for
Again, I don't have a good answer, but that doesn't mean the problem
goes away. Linux still sucks.
Just to be clear, in this particular case any freely distributable piece
of code that relies on royalty bearing codecs sucks.
That includes BSD, Hurd, Minux, Android, MeeGO, etc.
md
I've already heard of people running an emulator on
top of an emulator inside of a VM solely to keep some old application
alive.
One or two years ago I was at a small technical college someplace and
the professors (knowing I had worked for DEC) offered to show me an
ancient PDP-11 running RSX-11
ugly pants carrying Windows laptops around.
I must admit I never related ugly pants with Windows laptops.
I sense a follow-up study, but firstwhat is the definition of ugly
pants?
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Hi,
I am doing some consulting about Why Linux is good for cloud
computing (and for that matter Software as a Service (SaaS), which I
consider more or less one and the same).
I am going to start with the fact that Unix systems were designed
(almost) from the beginning to be multi-tasking and
O.K., I will wade in here. :-)
For the most part, Ben is right. Vendors who completely control both
hardware and software can make the best products, if your definition
of best is a limited market of items, and you are willing to pay for
them. MVS, VMS, Digital Unix. Rock solid, stable,
Virtualization?
Well, I did not mention virtualization before, since there are so many
answers for virtualization for different operating systems, but there is
an element of efficiency in virtualization and
Too many choices.
A good point, but I think it is overblown for uber cloud computing
Tom,
Networking Linux can do vlans, VPN, firewalls in the base install. Its
very flexible in what you allow to be exposed.
AWESOME with the networking mention.
The BSD guys often said in the early days that they had a better
networking stack, but I am fairly sure that Linux has caught up. :-)
Mark,
There is still some good stuff happening with VMS, for example if you
are an hp software partner, you can get ssh access to a virtual
machine running OpenVMS 8.4 EFT.
I did not mean to imply that there was not good stuff happening with
VMSbut VMS is and was not DECnet.
Even when I was
Ralph,
While I agree with some things you said:
Not one Linux distro I've seen does a convincing job with consumer
media, an absolutely basic requirement, and something we ought to be
able to get right.
Well, please ask the DVD people not to used royalty bearing patents in
their codecs, and
... which has me wondering: how does Ubuntu get away with shipping all
of the stuff necessary to do DVD-authoring!?
Ahhh, what does it meant to do DVD-authoring? Moving encoded bits on
a DVD? No problem! Taking video bits from my video camera (encoded
into Mpeg) and putting it onto my DVD? No
Ralph,
So what it really comes down to is not who is in compliance with the
patent but who the patent-holders permit to violate their patent, how
well the patent holder was compensated to look the other way, and
whether at some future date the organization in this state of grace
manages to
I will play the Devil's advocate here:
No gaming support - Mandriva has an entire product line devoted to
gaming, but the gaming developers didn't work with it and the end users
didn't try it out. It was subsequently dropped.
Yes, and It was subsequently dropped is the issue. Linux just does
Lori,
A good list of game issues.
Now add the fact that most Linux people are:
o Open Source (and typically games aren't)
o quite a few don't believe in paying for anything (and game makers have
to eat)
o game making is more of a science combined with art these daysfew
people would be happy
... and I was trying to remember where I saw an analogous off-the-cuff
flowchart for Windows. I just found it:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vLES3KKBdaM/Sjsptq1kkCI/AGU/yITp1qKuHOU/s1600-h/windowsaudio.png
Yes, and it is true that Windows probably has as much a mess in this as
Linux
I have created an opinion piece in my blog at the Linux Pro Magzine
site that addresses the actions of the United States Trade
Representative in placing Indonesia, Brazil and India on the 301 Watch
List because those countries advocate use of FOSS:
The link is here:
After you use it to create the next generation Cupcake, can I have
this one?
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Drew,
With selective Googling I found this posting about the Radeon HD 3650 in
Ubuntu Linux:
http://blog.vinceliu.com/2009/02/setting-dual-head-displays-with-radeon.html
And the link to the ATI site in the article seems to show that they are
still supporting the board.
md
Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for; I did not think to
include rotated in my googling, which was silly of me. 1050x1680
(order matters) code-editing screen, here I come!
Well, in this case selective googling was a case of less(1) giving
more(1).I just googled for HD 3650 linux,
The only `issue' I have in reading your response is where you write:
Who loses in a true FOSS environment? The investors.
Jason, I really do not want to start a discussion of capitalism here,
but I do want to answer your question.
I will be more careful in the upcoming document addressing
Bill Sconce, PySIG Fearless Leader, may not be able to attend tonight,
as a propane truck accident has him evacuating his home.
See: http://www.wmur.com/news/22668406/detail.html#
Brings new meaning to the old song:
There will be a hot time in the old town tonight.
md
Everyone's going to have a gas.
The real problem with that much propane being released at one time is
that, being heavier than air, you have pockets of
Cascading sheets of propane styles.
But I am fairly sure that by the end of PySIG tonight (or after the
beers at the
Yes, we know that it is crap and we know that FOSS is commercial
software, but the enemies of FOSS (and this includes free information)
have lots of money, hire lots of lobbyists, who takes lots of people to
dinner and whisper things in their ear.
It all sounds on the up-and-up. The Business
Man. If FOSS is so great, how come *we* don't have all of that money
to do all of those things?
Very simple. Proprietary software is written for investors by
non-users. FOSS, for the most part, is written by the customers for
the customers.
FOSS is written by the people that have the itch
and
Education run by Bryant Patten:
http://ncose.org/
Now I will shut up and let others have their say.
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It is easier and faster for me to get to Manchester from Amherst over Rt
101 than it is to get to Nashua over Rt 101A, particularly around rush
hour.
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It is a sad situation, but one that happens every once in a while, and
particularly when a profit-making company heads up a FOSS project.
In 2008 Sun bought MySQL for 1 Billion dollars, 800 million in cash and
200 million in options. Someone got a lot of money, and quite a few
people probably
Joshua,
First of all, let me say it was good to see you again last night at the
15th Anniversary of GNHLUG.
Secondly, what you say is true about the signed images. The only way
you could get an unlocked, unsigned G1 was to join the Google
Developer's program ($25.) and then you could buy *one*.
My personal opinion is this would be a good time for Verizon to come
in and buy back the lines. They will get it cheaper than what they
sold it for.
Verizon would not want the lines back if you gave them to Verizon.
Verizon does not want the rural land-line business. They have been
selling it
A furious race! Neck-and-neck between Milly's Tavern and La
Carreta, both with a staggering three votes each! Followed up closely
by Strange Brew, with a tremendous two votes! What a contest! What a
drama! Oh, the humanity!
Well, I do not know what happened, but I voted already in
* Milley's Tavern (www.milleystavern.com)
The URL is http://www.millystavern.com/
No e in this millys.
I remember it was a big place, and on a Monday night we might tend to
have it to ourselves.
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I also think it would be neat to have the gathering on the anniversary
date.
Well, to throw a little gasoline into the discussion:
o The date you mention is the date of the first meeting of
what-would-become the GNHLUG meeting. I still remember sitting around a
few weeks later trying to discuss
Hi,
I have been watching this conversation for the past couple of days, and
I would just like to throw in a small observation.
People like Apple because of their design, because things plug together
seamlessly, because everything works well.
One simple reason for this is that Apple controls, to
LOL. What a fantastic idea! I'm gonna have to design a PCI card to
do that... oh, wait. That would be better implemented as a USB
device, wouldn't it? That way your smells would be mobile, and the
device could be of arbitrary size.
I think you should freely publish the hardware design of
I think this is a good idea, but in reality your hearing is nowhere near
as sensitive as your nose.
I believe a good product for sysadmins would be SmellTrouble(TM),
where systems that are in good shape would generate smells like
chocolate, soda or good coffee, and systems that are in bad shape
It is not often that I ask for your help, and this help is not even for
me, but for a young Brazilian friend of mine named Hugo Corbucci.
Hugo is doing his Master's degree and is doing a survey of software
tools that a developer and his team of people might use in doing
communicationswell,
Ben,
Thanks for that email and those links.
I got curious about the fact that MAC was the first high order computer
language, so I started searching for that and found this link:
http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2009/07/17/236650/apollo-11-the-computers-that-put-man-on-the-moon.htm
which
You don't even need to make your own rope memory.
Now he tells me! :-)
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Yup, and I remember paying $25. for ONE of those serial line
connectors (not the cable, just the connector). And that was $25 back
in 1977.
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Ahhh, Slashdot!
Let no good article go unpunished.
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Hi,
The Telegraph story whose prequel started the whole topic of license
plates is at:
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090517/STYLE/305179976dsq=9478385#comment-9478385
Thought you might like to know.
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Hi,
In going to the airport from Nashua I normally take a private car, but
today I decided to take the bus that leaves from Exit 8.
Not only is it much cheaper, but it has free WiFi on board, and I am
typing this as we speed down Rt. 3.
md
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In general, I find complaining through sales is sometimes effective
for non-responsive companies.
I knew of many, many issues of non-responsive companies that were
solved quickly by contacting your sales representativeparticularly
one that was commission based.
Unfortunately this happens
will be able to reschedule it. I will have to discuss
that with the
other organizers.
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budget, two elements in today's society that we do not hear that much.
Another announcement will be going out as we get closer to the meeting.
Yes, I filled in the Wiki page.
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a better
camera, particularly one with a separate microphone input, it would be
great if we could borrow it.
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. government will give us a bailout to study this
issue.
Who will join me as we watch the time of UNIX line up?
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a luxury, but a necessity) that can be cut off?
Venezuela and other countries are making the same move, and for a lot of
the same reasons.
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to that discussion that night because
he was too busy scribbling down notes on a piece of paper.
Later, when Mike had written and published his book The UNIX
Philospophy, he gave me an autographed copy.
And now you know the REST of the story.
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foils.
Scanned in and put up on the web, they can be found here:
http://www.usenix.org/events/bsdcon/tech.html
along with another great Mashey talk:
Software Army On the March
We stand on the shoulders of giants.
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Look at its wirth instead.
Ahhh, Niklaus Wirth...another giant!
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sizes, that is another issue.
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(R
is a design philosophy',
is one common usage.
You forgot to mention that is is also a standard, the Single UNIX
Specification.
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of our
members.
Thanks for your input.
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(R)Linux
At 11:31:30pm UTC on Feb 13, 2009, Unix time will reach 1,234,567,890.
Where will you be at this momentous second? - from Bell Labs
This will be Friday, February 13th at 1831 and 30 seconds EST (1531 and
30 seconds PST).
Now if there was any reason to fear Friday the 13th, I think this is it.
Greg,
Martha's has WiFi, so we can hook up to a time server.
...this will be useful for the 13th!
Thanks,
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Jon sent gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org a message on Facebook.
Y2K in the Unix Erawhere will your computer be?
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me.and Ben is going to buy me a drink!
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be interested in the source.
The real GNHLUG event notice followed soon after, using the normal
mailing lists.
If thine eye offend thee, pluck it outif you don't like Facebook,
don't look at it.
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with minimal
tinkering.)
Bayard
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I
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or slower for you, I do not know.
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this behavior for a while.
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you to include as many customer headers as you want.
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it as it was with MH.
And that is about the only thing I don't like about it.
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I have been asked to nominate some people and products for the most or
the best for 2008.
Now I am happy to do this, but I also am a firm believer in the concept
that (for the most part) a group of people usually gives a better answer
than a single person, so I am going to open this up to the
Evolution supports IMAP, POP and local mail.
It also supports multiple identities.
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In the case of the hardware, I do prefer the term open to separate
freedom from the concept of being gratis. :-)
The G1 from Google's developer program is actually 474 USD (399. plus
the 75 dollars it costs to join their developers program), and only
available in low quantities. For larger
(and to be fair, it is easier to show
in a video than to write about left mouse-push swish).
Stay tuned.
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I will write the article, pass it past my friend for his o.k. on
accuracy and some URLs, and when I get it posted I will let you know.
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Oh Great!
Now that you tell them there will be coffee and donuts, they will come
out of the woodwork!
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Excellent :-)
Can you give a link to where you got these?
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=206821006adid=17070dcaid=17070
They are actually cheaper than the $238., because you get a $20. rebate
on one of themassuming you order them today, September 30th.
And by wiggling my
This from the guy who brought core memory to a LUG show-and-tell.
You always end up topping all the I remember when conversations. No
fair starting them, too. ;-)
Sorry Ben, I really don't mean it to be a contest. I just do it every
once in a while to put some reality back into what has
for
'searching', capacity vs speed. Even today there are many
applications that simply need to have the data online for that one weird
old guy who would like to see it again every ten, fifteen or thirty
years.
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per buck.
I will warn everyone that the rebates on both of these offers are only
one per household, and with rebates Let the buyer beware, as well as
this is not an endorsement of these drives, so do your own analysis.
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You might not really have 1024 GB in your disks :-/
Well, actually I would be happy to have only 1000 GB on my disk to have
a Terabyte, but then we get to the whole discussion of what is a GB,
and it is too early in the morning for that discussion and I have too
much real work to do.
Warmest
It's about 6 Mb/s or just shy of 1MB/s. The entire data contents of
RP06 then could have been fetched in about 200s (let's say 3min),
compared to 1TB at 300MB/s and thus approx. 3000s or close to 1h.
All of that would assume that you were reading sequentially and not
waiting for disk head
Did the computer you were hooking it up to even have 16MB of main
memory in it?
Of course not.
I had it hooked up to a VAX 11/780 that was running Unix System 3 from
Bell Labs. At first we only had 1 MB of RAM, but I upgraded that to 4
MB (the max you could have with that system).
If I had
(and that was when $23K was a lot of money).
8000 times the capacity for 1/80th of the price.
So it goes.
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several instances of Linux being used in Lottery systems,
both the terminals and the server systems.
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that are on
their way.
People comparing the software to the iPhone are, by this very
definition, going to be disappointed.
On the other hand, developers who want a truly open platform to develop
some great applications on should have what they need.
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