Steven Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
using :make
This will run make and if you have error(s) in your code you can move
through those using vim.
How automatic is this? Will vim parse the make and compiler output
and move you to the correct file and line number? Can the user fix
one
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 08:20:00AM -0500, Kevin D. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Steven Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
using :make
This will run make and if you have error(s) in your code you can move
through those using vim.
How automatic is this? Will vim parse the make and
In a message dated: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:59:36 EST
Derek D. Martin said:
Can you relate this to my supercalifragilisticexpeialidocious
example before?
Vim can do command completion, but I'm not sure about searching
buffers/files for text insertion completion. OTOH, from what I've
seen
Screen has been around forever, which accomplishes the same thing.
And, vim also supports this functionality.
Well, I guess for relatively small values of 'forever' :)
Here, just FYA, is a pretty good representation of history to help
you calculate an upper bound for possible values of
Just to be picky, the MkLinux timeline ends with DR-3, the last release
backed by Apple Computer. It totally ignores stuff that the community
has been doing since. This matters to me because I use MkLinux Pre-R1 on
my web server.
Maybe I should let the person responsible for the site know
In a message dated: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:41:14 EST
Michael O'Donnell said:
Here, just FYA, is a pretty good representation of history to help
you calculate an upper bound for possible values of 'forever'
http://www.levenez.com/unix/history.html#01
Outstanding! This seems to be an extension
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Geez. *Light* has some latency issues, too. I spent years at 2400 baud
on dialup systems where colored text was considered an advanced feature.
And I'm just a young'un. There are people on the list who remember when
teletypes really did *type*.
I'm only 32 (well
Since screen depends on pseudo-ttys it's
unlikely that it was around before they
were first implemented...
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In a message dated: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:47:41 EST
Tom Buskey said:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 03:57:29PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(granted, I don't do this often, and more times than not, I ssh to
the remote machine, co the file from RCS, vi it, etc.)
emacs works well with RCS/CVS too. I
In a message dated: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:16:53 EST
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Footnotes
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[1] Plain Old Telephone Service. The technical term (really!) for what
most people think is the only kind of phone line.
You mean it isn't? ;)
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Seeya,
Paul
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It may look like I'm just
In a message dated: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:06:29 EST
John Abreau said:
As for invoking it, it turns out to be fairly straightforward. I had to
download ange-ftp-over-ssh.tar.gz, move the nftp.pl script into
my PATH, and add a line to my .emacs:
I had a lot of trouble getting ange-ftp to work
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Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 10:01 PM
To: Greater NH Linux User Group
Subject: Re: Humor: Cargo Cult Programming
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, at 6:17pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I've said before, I suspect
In a message dated: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:08:39 EST
Derek Martin said:
At some point hitherto, Jerry Feldman hath spake thusly:
Before the widspread use of windowing systems, emacs provided the multi-
windows support.
Screen has been around forever, which accomplishes the same thing.
And, vim
(Amusingly, I seem to break every generalization you mention :)
In a message dated: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:00:32 EST
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, at 6:17pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I've said before, I suspect that emacs- and perl-users are actually the
higher life forms ...
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From: Derek Martin [mailto:gnhlug;sophic.org]
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 11:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Humor: Cargo Cult Programming
You ain't a young'un... ;-) Ben's in his early-mid 20's. Even
that's not really a young'un to me
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Jason Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My first 'net connection was over a 2400 baud modem to a Unix server. I
used that modem for 3 years before I could afford a 14400 modem. I used
that for
John Abreau said:
My first connection was via an old thermal-print teletype with a built-in
110/300 baud acoustic coupler, dialed into a Vax/VMS system at Northeastern
University. Took about four seconds to print a single line. Now *that*
was painful!
A TI Silent 700? I used to use one to
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 05:14:40PM -0500, Kevin D. Clark wrote:
This message isn't intended to start an emacs vs. vi flamewar --
really, I'm just looking to understand how other people using
different editors handle these situations.
Emacs has a scheme for handling compilation of
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 04:57:44PM -0500, Steven Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Emacs has a general scheme for auto-completing keywords. Let's say
that I have three files loaded into Emacs, two locally and one
remotely (via a ssh connection, for example). Let's say that the file
on the
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 05:08:46PM -0500, Bob Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Suppose I decide that this looks horrible, and I want to clean this
up. In Emacs I can type a few keys and transmorgify things thusly:
snip
Out of curiosity, does VIM do anything like this?
I'm not sure
That explains a few problems I had with it. Fortunately, I already
had a
copy of Turbo Pascal at the time, and was able to reduce my usage of the
Apple Pascal to a minimum.
I miss Turbo Pascal. :)
So, buy Kylix. I have. Hell: you can even download a free,
As I've said before, I suspect that emacs- and
perl-users are actually the higher life forms;
it's just that I don't know how to use them and so
keep falling back on vi and the other tools that I
already know...
As a general answer to pll's queries: vi can't
necessarily do all the goofy things
I think the choice of emacs or vi (or vim) is much of a mater of personal
preference. I come from a shop originally that was entirely emaics
oriented. You edited, emailed, compiled, tested and debugged with emacs.
Before the widspread use of windowing systems, emacs provided the multi-
windows
OTOH, the fact that vi and vim seem to treat some characters as
magical (like '#' and especially '%') really louses me up sometimes,
at which point I scramble back to emacs.
(I can't :'a,.! perl -pe 's/^/#/' in vim, for example)
Heh. All it takes is one additional backslash:
In a message dated: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:17:01 EST
Derek Martin said:
As for the first one, while it's neat and can be convenient, if you
can ssh into the system then you can ssh in and run vi(m), with very
little extra effort.
Well yes, but when you're editing several different files at the
In a message dated: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:36:36 EST
Jerry Feldman said:
It is all a matter of personal preference.
Agreed. Before anyone accuses me of attempting to re-kindle
the age-old holy war, I was simply responding to Derek with a
list of things I do constantly in Emacs for which I was
In a message dated: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:02:30 EST
mike ledoux said:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 03:57:29PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well yes, but when you're editing several different files at the same
time, it's very convenient to have different emacs buffers with
several different
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Derek Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The probable cause was not latency, but packet loss. If your dial-up
connection doesn't suck, you shouldn't have a problem.
By that metric, I've never experienced
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Earlier I wrote:
By that metric, I've never experienced a non-local network connection
that didn't suck. Not just on dialup, but on attbi, on many corporate
networks at various contract jobs where
John Abreau said:
By that metric, I've never experienced a non-local network connection
that didn't suck. Not just on dialup, but on attbi, on many corporate
networks at various contract jobs where both offices were on T1 lines
in separate cities.
I was lucky enough to work at Genuity for
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, at 6:06pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm on a 56K dialup now, and it's not all that much better. I still get
frequent lags of anywhere from a few seconds to occasionally a minute or
two where the connection simply sits there frozen.
That's bogus. I'm on what I think has
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, at 6:17pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I've said before, I suspect that emacs- and perl-users are actually the
higher life forms ...
I really don't think the choice of tool has much to do with the
sophistication of the user. I think it mostly comes down to personal
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, at 9:58pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I bet today's modem's have similar issues. Is there a market for
upscale modems? Like the old USR Courier that could do 19,200 when
14,4 was the fastest speed?
I think the market for such modems has largely been eliminated.
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, at 11:08am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I miss Turbo Pascal. :)
So, buy Kylix.
Oh, I love Delphi and Object Pascal and the VCL, too, and would be more
interested in Kylix if I was still doing application programming. But
they're just not the same as TP. :-)
--
Ben
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, at 5:08pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is OFTEN easier in Python to try it than to guess.
(Also, easier to try it than to RTFM... :)
While I agree with you, it is with some trepidation. Learning a system
without learning the hows and whys
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, at 10:26pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... cargo cult programming ...
I like that term.
Just to prevent any mistaken impressions, let me state that it is not
original to me. See:
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/cargo-cult-programming.html
See also:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, at 10:26pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... cargo cult programming ...
I like that term.
Just to prevent any mistaken impressions, let me state that it is not
original to me. See:
Noted.
When I was in High School I tried to learn UCSD Pascal on
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