Documentation Status and Reviews

2005-01-24 Thread Shaun McCance
During the last release cycle, we worked on a number of the documents collaboratively. We got quite a few new writers involved, and that was really nice. But there was often confusion as to the status of all the documentation, and this hurt our efforts to have community-build docs. I'm proposing

Re: Documentation Status and Reviews

2005-01-25 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 10:27 +, Stuart Ellis wrote: > On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:27:44 -0600, "Shaun McCance" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: > > During the last release cycle, we worked on a number of the documents > > collaboratively. We got quite a few new writers

Re: unclear wording, mentioning the gerund doesn't help

2005-01-28 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 20:17 +, Alan Horkan wrote: > The documentation style guide said this was the place to send feedback > http://developer.gnome.org/documents/style-guide/titlepage.html > > The following section of the Documentation style guide concerns me: > > http://developer.gnome.org/d

Re: [Usability] HIG Clarification for "Close Without Saving" button

2005-02-01 Thread Shaun McCance
On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 22:00 -0400, Steven Garrity wrote: > I'm working on evaluating (and hopefully improving) the consistency of > save confirmation dialogs in Gnome [1] and there's a bug in the HIG that > is holding me up. [2] > > As the comments on the bug explain, the problem is that the "Cl

Re: [Usability] HIG Clarification for "Close Without Saving" button

2005-02-01 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 11:41 +, Patrick Costello wrote: > > Shaun McCance wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 22:00 -0400, Steven Garrity wrote: > > > >>I'm working on evaluating (and hopefully improving) the consistency of > >>save confirmation dialogs

Re: Request for UI freeze breakage

2005-02-18 Thread Shaun McCance
The impact is low enough. I'd say go for it. -- Shaun On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 09:39 -0500, Luis Villa wrote: > I can't comment on the doc implications, but it seems like a useful > fix to me and would make the foot menu more useful than it currently > is. > Luis > > > On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:13:0

Re: Sun-updated docs submitted to /contrib

2005-02-26 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 14:57 +0900, Ryan McDougall wrote: >On Fri, 2005-25-02 at 10:44 +1300, Glynn Foster wrote: >> Hey, >> >> > As you know, the Sun docteam has been updating and creating >> > documentation for the Sun release of the Java Desktop System. I have put >> > the following tarballs i

Re: release notes - translating "next" and "previous"

2005-03-07 Thread Shaun McCance
s there is a l10n.xml file in ../style/ that we should translate. >> Is there any plan for this? > >I'm CCing gnome-docs list because I think Shaun McCance created the >stylesheet for us. Maybe he has an idea. > >However, this will probably need to wait for 2.12. Oh gosh,

Re: Patch to remove distro-specific references in Evolution docs

2005-03-09 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 15:54 -0500, Dave Malcolm wrote: >(Cross-posting to evolution-patches and to gnome-doc-list) > >Attached is a first-pass at a patch to the Evolution documentation. >Doesn't yet have a ChangeLog since I'd like feedback from the Evolution >and GNOME docs people. [snip] I'll l

gnome-2-10 branch for gnome-doc-utils

2005-04-03 Thread Shaun McCance
Stable is gnome-2-10, all the fun happens on HEAD. -- Shaun ___ gnome-doc-list mailing list gnome-doc-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-doc-list

Yelp branched

2005-05-01 Thread Shaun McCance
So I've actually released a Yelp 2.10.0, despite the fact that accessibility regressions prevent it from being in the Gnome 2.10 release set. It has come to my attention that distros have been shipping 2.9.x from CVS, and that nothing I say or do is going to stop them. So I might as well release

Re: changing yelp font

2005-06-25 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 08:33 -0400, Alexander Kirillov wrote: > Quick question: what determines the main font used by yelp? And how it > can be changed? Hey Sasha, As of the non-existant 2.10 release, Yelp has font preferences for the normal document font and the monospace font. By default it use

Re: sugested doc license

2005-07-07 Thread Shaun McCance
On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 08:35 +0200, Stefan Kost wrote: > hi, > > (reposting as the first post never came thru) > > I'd like to work on the user-documentation for gtk-doc. The current bits > are under FDL and several people said that does not go well with the > GPL/LGPL. > What is the suggested

gnome-doc-devel-list

2005-07-08 Thread Shaun McCance
In an effort to open up the development process, I've just created [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-doc-devel-list This is a technical list, where we'll discuss the *development* of Yelp, gnome-doc-utils, and any other documentation utilities that might come along (l

gnome-doc-utils string change

2005-07-12 Thread Shaun McCance
Regrettably, I had to change the string ", " in gnome-doc-utils to the more obscure ", ". That extra msgstr wrapper is ignored by my i18n stylesheets. Its only purpose is to prevent intltool from mangling the very important trailing whitespace. On the plus side, I put in a much better comment ex

Re: Latest CVS version of User Guide

2005-07-12 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 00:09 +1000, Andrew Burton wrote: > G'day all > > Where can I download the latest CVS version of the Desktop User Guide > (http://www.gnome.org/learn/users-guide/2.10/index.html)? cvs.gnome.org > doesn't seem to have it (or it's hiding somewhere!) > > I've noticed quite a fe

Re: Evolution contact editor title changes

2005-07-22 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 14:36 +0530, Arunprakash wrote: > Hi, > > The patch for UI bug #235830 sets the title of the > contact editor as "Contact Editor - ". > > This is set while opening existing contacts also. > This was not earlier. > > The is the file name of the contact. Does the i18n team

gnome-doc-utils string addition

2005-08-01 Thread Shaun McCance
I've added an xref formatter to gnome-doc-utils for prefaces. The default formatting is exactly the same as for glossaries. <_msg> preface.xref -- Shaun ___ gnome-doc-list mailing list gnome-doc-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listi

Re: ui and string changes in gnome-volume-manager

2005-08-19 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 11:04 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: > any update on this? > > Vincent Untz wrote: > > Le mercredi 17 août 2005 à 09:55 -0600, Elijah Newren a écrit : > > > > > On 8/17/05, Jeffrey Stedfast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > The attached patch changes most of t

The User Guide Needs You

2005-09-04 Thread Shaun McCance
In the last few release cycles, our documentation has rotted. It's been incredibly difficult to get new contributors hacking docs quickly, in part due to a high barrier to entry. In order to encourage collaborative editing, I've placed an outline for the User Guide on the wiki: http://live.gnome

Re: Sarma: Live Documentation Editor (was Re: The User Guide Needs You)

2005-09-05 Thread Shaun McCance
On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 08:48 +0200, Danilo Šegan wrote: > Hi Shaun, > > Yesterday at 23:19, Shaun McCance wrote: > > > In the last few release cycles, our documentation has rotted. It's been > > incredibly difficult to get new contributors hacking docs quickly, in &

yelp and gnome-doc-utils branched

2005-09-17 Thread Shaun McCance
Subject says it all. 2.12 work continues on the gnome-2-12 branch. New hotness happens on HEAD. -- Shaun ___ gnome-doc-list mailing list gnome-doc-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-doc-list

Re: String review

2005-09-21 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 20:49 +0200, Christian Persch wrote: > Hi, > > For quite some time, the general inconsistency of strings in the various > GNOME modules has irritated me. For example, let's just look at some > strings in GNOME: [snip] > You'll notice: > - the varying messagestyle: "[do] it?

Re: Making our documentation more cohesive

2005-10-16 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sun, 2005-10-16 at 10:15 -0400, Alexander Kirillov wrote: > On 10/15/05, Brent Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 2) Standardize the titles of each document by removing version numbers, > > fixing capitalization, removing unnecessary articles and adding a type > > to the title such as "Man

Re: yelp not picking ne locale from omf file

2005-11-16 Thread Shaun McCance
I'm CCing gnome-i18n. Translators, there's a special message to you at the bottom. On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 21:57 +0545, Pawan Chitrakar wrote: > i have copied user-guide-C.omf file to user-guide-ne.omf file and > changed the location of docbook file and language code to ne then i > updated scrollk

Re: yelp not picking ne locale from omf file

2005-11-16 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 11:37 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote: > ScrollKeeper is hosted on SourceForge. I haven't seen > any of the maintainers around in a long while, and the > ChangeLog shows no updates in the last seven months. > But hopefully we'll find a way to get Nepali

Re: gnome-utils ported to gnome-doc-utils

2005-12-05 Thread Shaun McCance
On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 18:39 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > Hi all, > > It's with great pleasure that I announce that gnome-utils HEAD has > been > ported to gnome-doc-utils. > > I've never really did this, so I'm not sure that everything is working > as it should: I've followed the GnomeDocUtils

Re: Repost, really need help: Need to know where the Gnome User manual resides in CVS

2005-12-07 Thread Shaun McCance
Hey Alexander, Very sorry for the late reply. The fact is, nobody really knows how everything works at this point. The Documentation Project is in complete disarray. On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 16:32 +0200, Alexander Shopov wrote: > Please guys, > I really need help. > > I have a Bulgarian translati

Re: mouse actions

2005-12-09 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2005-12-09 at 20:58 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > Looking at gosbasic.xml... > > What's the difference between 'grab' and 'click and > hold'? I don't see any. Either one should be removed, > or if doc writers use both, one should be picked as > the entry in the table, with the other ment

Re: GNOME 2.4 Screenshots Web page is broken - who's responsible?

2005-12-13 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2005-12-13 at 00:17 -0500, Fred Koschara wrote: > All of the screenshot links on the Web site at > http://www.gnome.org/start/2.4/screenshots.html > are broken. > > I would have sent this message to an email address associated with Web site > maintenance, but if there *is* such an a

Re: Gnome User Guide - Avances - 21/DIC/2005

2005-12-28 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 23:07 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > --- Daniel Espinosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is to help in the improviment of the > > documentation avariable, and to > > the manager of the page above to use, comment or > > modify this work, and > > finaly to include in the so

Re: My Introduction

2005-12-28 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 18:36 +0200, Yavor Doganov wrote: > At Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:05:21 + (GMT), > Manish Chakravarty wrote: > > 2) Will i be assigned credit for the docs i write? or will the > > maintainer keep the copyright/credit? > > Do you really care about this? Put youself as "author" a

Re: The scope of gnome-doc-list

2005-12-28 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 18:13 +, Manish Chakravarty wrote: > Hello everyone, > I thank everyone for such a warm welcome for my last > email. I have got the hand of DocBook and its time for > me to do my bit. > Before i begin (and raise any more unnecessary > questions) i want to ask: > > 1)What

Re: The scope of gnome-doc-list

2005-12-28 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 19:11 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > --- Manish Chakravarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Sorry if my questions bug you, but i assure this is > > the sort of questions many newbies are having. This > > question is not answered in > > http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gdp

Re: Nautilus documentation update

2005-12-28 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sun, 2005-12-25 at 23:37 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > --- karderio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Joachim, what files are you working on, or planning > > to work on, in > > gnome-user-docs ? > > - submitted a patch for the mouse preference panel > (not yet been committed, AFAIK) > - working

Re: Nautilus documentation update

2005-12-28 Thread Shaun McCance
On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 02:33 +0100, karderio wrote: > Should there not be more screenshots in the docs ? From the GNOME > Handbook of Writing Software Documentation I understand there should be > a screenshot for each window described. Screenshots are overrated. Help files should generally be writ

Re: Nautilus documentation update

2005-12-28 Thread Shaun McCance
On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 17:32 +0100, karderio wrote: > > Lastly, the image you've submitted for the link emblem > > doesn't match what I have on my system. Emblems change > > with system theme. Which are you using (and which icon > > theme is GNOME default?). I'm using the icon theme > > called 'GNOM

Re: Nautilus documentation update

2005-12-28 Thread Shaun McCance
On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 17:44 +0100, karderio wrote: > > I know from Shaun that part1.xml and part2.xml are > > officially deprecated, but I don't know what the > > status of the others is. > > How does something get "officially deprecated" ? I noticed that several > screenshots are no longer useful

Re: Nautilus documentation update

2005-12-28 Thread Shaun McCance
On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 16:55 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > --- karderio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I noticed .../gnome-user-docs/gnome-users-guide is > > the 1.4 > > documentation, is that because GNOME 1 is still > > maintained in CVS ? > > There's a lot of weird stuff in CVS. > One time I f

Re: Gnome User Guide

2005-12-28 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2005-12-08 at 23:07 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > --- Shaun McCance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The User Guide is horribly out of date. And without > > an > > active community of good technical writers, I can't > > make > > any guarantees

Re: mouse actions

2005-12-28 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sat, 2005-12-10 at 17:37 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > Is the Style Guide available in CVS? > I've spotted one or two mistakes in it. It also has > bit about 'Eliminate Superfluous Information... > Over-exposed legal information, Over-exposed author > information', which the guide itself doesn

Re: Nautilus documentation update

2005-12-28 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 12:20 -0700, Brent Smith wrote: > I think string freeze starts January 2nd, with the release of > 2.13.4 - If we want modifications to be translated, we will > have to commit the patches before that deadline, right? While an admirable goal, the GDP has yet to follow string fr

Re: Nautilus documentation update

2005-12-29 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 10:28 +0100, karderio wrote: > On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 14:07 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 17:32 +0100, karderio wrote: > > > > Lastly, the image you've submitted for the link emblem > > > > doesn't mat

Re: Nautilus documentation update

2005-12-29 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 10:37 +0100, karderio wrote: > On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 14:11 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote: > > > I noticed .../gnome-user-docs/gnome-users-guide is the 1.4 > > > documentation, is that because GNOME 1 is still maintained in CVS ? > > > > The int

Re: how to commit string changes

2006-01-07 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 07:44 +0530, Manish Chakravarty wrote: > Hi, > I am a newbie to this list. I want to help out with the GNOME > documentation project > Last few days i have been reading that many people have been > "committing" changes to some packages (eg evolution). > I would like to help ou

Re: Yelp Help documents

2006-01-12 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 23:44 -0700, Brent Smith wrote: > I've written a manual for Yelp that uses gnome-doc-utils. > Please let me know if it works for you and if you think > certain sections need addressed or additional topics need > added. Hi Brent, Thanks, we've needed some Yelp documentation f

String Change Announcements

2006-01-12 Thread Shaun McCance
A few release cycles back, the documentation team began asking for announcements of UI and string changes. We already had a string change announcement period in place for the benefit of the translators, so the release team just made it all coincide. Easy, no problems. Unfortunately, people tend

Re: String Change Announcements

2006-01-12 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 20:16 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > --- Shaun McCance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A few release cycles back, the documentation team > > began > > asking for announcements of UI and string changes. > > We > > already

Documentation Love Day

2006-01-12 Thread Shaun McCance
The feature freeze is nigh, and that means it's time for our intrepid writers to dig into our documentation. As valiant as they are, they can't do this alone. We need your help. Sunday, January 15 will be the first Documentation Love Day of the 2.14 release cycle. This is an excellent opportuni

string change in gnome-doc-utils

2006-01-16 Thread Shaun McCance
Every translator I heard from supported this change, so I did it. The string 'ltr' has been changed to 'default:LTR'. This is the same string GTK+ uses, so it should help with translation memory and such. -- Shaun ___ gnome-doc-list mailing list gnom

Re: Can I work in the Wiki for GNOME User Guide or I for got it?

2006-01-20 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 20:09 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > --- Daniel Espinosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm trying change the contents and order in the > > Gnome User Guide, and > > becouse I don't have enough time, for the moment, to > > study the XML DocBook > > and how to create or edi

Re: Updating the Accessibility Guide

2006-01-21 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 23:17 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > --- Don Scorgie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2. In section 2.1.1.3, about changing the size of > > the cursor. It > > currently says: > > "Select one of the following cursor size options: > > Small > > Medium > > Large" > > Cursor or p

Re: How to make css customisations in yelp

2006-01-24 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 11:46 +, Don Scorgie wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 17:53 +, Matthew East wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I wanted to make some distro-specific customisations to the css in Yelp > > recently, so I tentatively modified data/default.css and copied it > > to /usr/share/y

Re: Small change in the clock applet

2006-01-25 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 19:05 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > --- Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, January 25, 2006 16:24, Joachim Noreiko > > wrote: > > > > > > --- Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> However, in some locales, it's not even possible > > to > > >> sho

Re: scrollkeeper categories will put new users off the documentation

2006-01-25 Thread Shaun McCance
On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 17:56 +, Matthew East wrote: > Dear doc-lists, > > I just noticed a new category has come into Yelp: GNU Info files. > > While I applaud the fact that more information is available from Yelp, > it now means that there are two categories on the front page of our > GNOME h

String addition in yelp

2006-01-30 Thread Shaun McCance
I've just added the string "Command Line Help" to Yelp. If man or info are enabled (which they both are now by default), this is used as an extra node under which the man and info page nodes are placed. -- Shaun ___ gnome-doc-list mailing list gnome-d

Re: What's the plan for the user guide?

2006-02-04 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sat, 2006-02-04 at 14:52 +, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > On Sat, 2006-02-04 at 14:06 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > > --- Simos Xenitellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I spoke to Brent on IRC who said Shaun has a plan > > > to > > > > rewrite the guide from scratch so it can be under > >

Re: What's the plan for the user guide?

2006-02-07 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 12:40 +, Calum Benson wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 16:06 -0500, Alexander Kirillov wrote: > > On 2/4/06, karderio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Has anybody asked the copyright holders if they wouldn't mind > releasing > > > under a new license ? I don't see what

Re: Gnome-utils branched to gnome-2-14

2006-02-07 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 10:20 +0100, Luca Ferretti wrote: > Il giorno lun, 06/02/2006 alle 10.26 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi ha scritto: > > On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 08:50 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > > > Le lundi 06 février 2006 à 00:26 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit : > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I've

Re: What's the plan for the user guide?

2006-02-07 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 14:43 +0200, Alexander Shopov wrote: > I am very strongly opposed to changing the license of Gnome Documentation. > > I have very little compassion to the Debian hypocrites that had to think > of a stupid and erroneous reason to be against GFDL. > > If a part of Debian deve

Re: building GNOME vs writing docs

2006-02-07 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 12:07 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > Our situation is that we need writers. We need to > lower the barriers to entry, and one of them is > expecting new doc writers to build themselves a > complete GNOME from CVS before they can write > documentation. > > My experiences woul

Re: our online docs

2006-02-07 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 13:34 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > I've just noticed that the most recent version of the > gnome manual online at http://www.gnome.org/learn/ is > 2.10. > > Also, while on the subject of docs online, could we do > something about the masses of dross we have at the top > o

Re: smart quotes in docbook - GDP handbook

2006-02-07 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 21:28 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > I'm looking at the GDP handbook's > crossreferencing.xml. > Both the online version and the yelp version show > smart quotes, making it impossible to copy and paste > examples of docbook code. > This is the docbook source: > > >

Re: our online docs

2006-02-07 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 21:15 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > --- Shaun McCance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If we used my stylesheets, this stuff would > > automatically > > be put onto a separate title page. > > Can we? Absolutely. If any issues come up, th

Re: building GNOME vs writing docs

2006-02-07 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 21:29 +, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > O/H Shaun McCance έγραψε: > > On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 12:07 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > > > >> Our situation is that we need writers. We need to > >> lower the barriers to entry, and one of them is

Re: smart quotes in docbook - GDP handbook

2006-02-08 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 09:58 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > --- Shaun McCance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When straight quotes (U+0022) are required by some > > syntax, > > the quote element should absolutely, positively not > > be used. > > > Joachim

Re: What's the plan for the user guide?

2006-02-08 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 11:03 -0500, Alexander Kirillov wrote: > On 2/7/06, Shaun McCance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Also, I know it's become popular lately on Planet Gnome > > and desktop-devel-list to be hostile and accusational, > > and to call thing

Re: What's the plan for the user guide?

2006-02-08 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 11:42 +0200, Alexander Shopov wrote: > > I am neither a Debian developer nor a Debian user. > Neither am I. > > > Although > > I often try out various distributions, just to see how Gnome > > looks across the board, > > As I am the committer of the Bulgarian Gnome translatio

Re: our online docs

2006-02-08 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 12:30 +, Calum Benson wrote: > On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 15:41 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote: > > > I generally try to avoid bringing my employer into > > these threads, to make it clear that my involvement > > with Gnome is entirely my own. But I can

Re: What's the plan for the user guide?

2006-02-08 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 22:14 +, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > O/H Shaun McCance έγραψε: > > In fact, there's absolutely no way a DocBook document can > > guarantee its compliance with the FDL, given how much leeway > > processing applications have with DocBook. For ins

Re: Spicing up stylesheets

2006-02-10 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 15:35 +1030, Clytie Siddall wrote: > On 09/02/2006, at 8:16 AM, Matthew East wrote (in introduction): > > > I've been looking at the possibility of spicing up the yelp look a > > bit. I've > > only done a bit of brief experimentation, I thought I'd ask first > > and see i

Re: Spicing up stylesheets

2006-02-11 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sat, 2006-02-11 at 16:56 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > --- Shaun McCance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But somehow, somebody thought it would be a good > > idea > > to mark hyperlinks with underlines, seriously > > hurting > > readability. It's be

Bugzilla and documentation

2006-02-11 Thread Shaun McCance
Most of you are probably familiar with the fake accounts we have in bugzilla. They have account names along the lines of [EMAIL PROTECTED] These are really handy, because they don't tie your bugs to any particular person. This is especially useful when you have a high turnover, like we do in the

Re: Author credit & blowing our own trumpet

2006-02-12 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 13:11 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > At what point should we add ourselves to the author > list in the docbook? Does this happen just prior to > release and we count all work done since 2.12 as one > new revision? Add yourself now. You've already made significant contributi

Re: Bugzilla and documentation

2006-02-12 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sun, 2006-02-12 at 11:06 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 1. Is there a tendency to standartize the directories > of the documentation in all official Gnome modules - > similarly to the position of translations - in po* > directories? (I do remember some of the Gnome modules > having different

Re: Bugzilla and documentation

2006-02-12 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sun, 2006-02-12 at 18:35 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > Le dimanche 12 février 2006 à 17:28 +, Joachim Noreiko a écrit : > > --- Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Le dimanche 12 février 2006 à 00:11 -0600, Shaun > > > McCance a écrit :

Re: Preferences headings

2006-02-13 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sat, 2006-02-11 at 17:21 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > I went through the headings in the Preferences and > tidied them up a bit. > I removed the initial verbs that didn't really add any > meaning and took up most of the navigation pane: > 'Configuring', 'Setting', 'Choosing' etc. > Now they a

Re: user guide update

2006-02-13 Thread Shaun McCance
Big thanks to Joachim, Daniel, and everybody else who's taken the initiative to Get Stuff Done. On Sat, 2006-02-11 at 20:14 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > Just a quick update of what I'm doing... > > I've just added the section 'Giving Focus to a Window' > to CVS. Thanks Daniel for your work on

Re: Sound Juicer UI changes

2006-02-13 Thread Shaun McCance
On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 13:20 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: > On 2/13/06, Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Attached is a patch that makes some minor changes to the SJ UI > > (following a UI review with Calum etc): > > > > * add accelerator labels to main window artist/title/genre

Re: bugzilla components

2006-02-14 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 22:42 +0200, Victor Osadci wrote: > Hi > > În data de Mi, 08-02-2006 la 17:37 +, Joachim Noreiko a scris: > > --- Joachim Noreiko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > But in general, where in bugzilla should problems in > > > the handbook and style guide be reported? Is there

Re: Bugzilla and documentation

2006-02-14 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 15:10 +0100, Paolo Maggi wrote: > Hi, > > > gedit/docs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Is it ok for you if we create a [EMAIL PROTECTED] alias? Sure. It's entirely up to the module maintainers. Maintainers are perfectly free to use accounts or aliases specific to their project, ra

Re: [Usability] Mini UI reviews

2006-02-16 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 16:34 +, Calum Benson wrote: > On 16 Feb 2006, at 14:43, Victor Osadci wrote: > > > > Any chance of having a review for Epiphany ? There was a lot of > > work on > > the bookmarks system, toolbars, preferences, etc., and a review > > would be > > quite useful for the u

gnome-user-docs and gnome-doc-utils

2006-02-18 Thread Shaun McCance
I've just migrated gnome-user-docs to gnome-doc-utils. It works: builds, installs, passes distcheck, all that fun stuff. Do we want to convert the documents to use XInclude instead of SYSTEM entities? (Joachim, this question is mostly to you.) -- Shaun _

GNOME User Documentation 2.13.1

2006-02-19 Thread Shaun McCance
As it is written in the Book of Gnome: And in the final days of the First Steward, the people will have grown weary, and the kingdom shall be barren. But from the Majestic Isles, there shall come a hero, and through him the people will be galvanized. From death, there shall come life. On behal

Re: Does String Freeze apply to Documentation?

2006-02-20 Thread Shaun McCance
On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 10:43 +, Matthew East wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a quick question about the string freeze: does it apply to > documentation? By the sound of the activity on the list, it doesn't: so > when is documentation freeze? Or is there no freeze? Obviously, > translators will work

gnome-user-docs 2.13.1.1

2006-02-21 Thread Shaun McCance
Matthias pointed out that the OMF files in gnome-user-docs weren't being installed. In fact, there were no OMF files, because I forgot to add the .omf.in files to CVS. I've added them and rolled a new release. Since there were no real changes, aside from build stupidity, I've versioned it at 2.13.

Re: Updated Nautilus Section

2006-02-21 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 01:34 +1300, John Stowers wrote: > Hey Everyone, > > I have attached my first pass at the updated nautilus documentation. > Please comment on what you think of this. > > I am sorry I did not submit a patch against the old gonautilus docs, > It was very large so I thought it

Re: Avoiding the name of an application in Menus?

2006-02-21 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 16:34 +, Calum Benson wrote: > On 21 Feb 2006, at 14:12, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > > > > I can *sort of* see the reason for this, because you > > get simpler items in the menu, eg 'Archive Manager'. > > But the policy isn't carried through system wide, > > because when you

Re: What's the plan for the user guide?

2006-02-21 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sat, 2006-02-04 at 20:22 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > I would like to help a little on the User Guide. I have more experience now > than the last time I worked on GNOME 2.8. Let me know what I could do. > Sincerely, > Angela Boyle Hi Angela! How are things going for you in the r

Re: Avoiding the name of an application in Menus?

2006-02-22 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 17:43 +1030, Clytie Siddall wrote: > On 22/02/2006, at 5:01 AM, Shaun McCance wrote: > > > Now, I'm all for saying what an application is in the > > menu, regardless of whether we use the real name. I > > have no problems with items like "

Re: gnome-screensaver use circles in password field

2006-02-22 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 12:03 -0500, William Jon McCann wrote: > Hey Elijah, > > Elijah Newren wrote: > > Does this affection documentation at all? If not, this is simple > > enough so here's one of two approvals. > > I'm not really sure if there is any documentation that refers to or > shows ast

Re: Gnome2 User Guide: translate it!

2006-02-24 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 09:54 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > --- Danilo Å egan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Today at 20:46, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > > > > > Is there any way we can mark a whole docbook > > section > > > as not worth translating because it's going to get > > > rewritten complet

Re: What's down, doc? Standartize - standartize ...

2006-02-28 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 14:37 +0200, Alexander Shopov wrote: > Hi guys, > > This will certainly wait for the months after the March release and > subversion migration but I *do* think that we should all press to get > the structure for the documentation of packages heavily standardized. > The main

Re: Translator credits in docs - HOW to do it

2006-02-28 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 13:04 +0100, Danilo Šegan wrote: > Hi Al, > > (this is more of a question for gnome-doc-devel-list) > > Yesterday at 15:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > 4. This obviously does not apply to the credits for translations of docs, > > for > > there is a special syntax: > > N

Re: What's down, doc? Standartize - standartize ...

2006-03-01 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 09:17 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > --- Shaun McCance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree. In fact, I generally push for a > > two-directory layout, > > like so: > > > > /sound-juicer/help/sound-juicer/C/sound-juicer.xml > &g

Re: Translator credits in docs - HOW to do it

2006-03-01 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 09:15 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > --- Shaun McCance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > In the Bulgarian Gnome translation team we have > > standartized on the following > &g

Re: What's down, doc? Standartize - standartize ...

2006-03-01 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 15:25 +1030, Clytie Siddall wrote: > On 28/02/2006, at 11:07 PM, Alexander Shopov wrote (in part): > > > 1. We have po* subdirectories to hold the translations. We should > > expect the help to always be in help* > > I can definitely represent the less-experienced doc. tra

Re: What's down, doc? Standartize - standartize ...

2006-03-01 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 23:17 +0100, Danilo Šegan wrote: > For gnome-doc-utils using modules, a minimal commit setup might be: > > module/help/Makefile.am (to add your language to DOC_LINGUAS) > module/help/ChangeLog > module/ChangeLog (if there is no former) > module/help/vi/ > > where you

Re: PDFs for user-guide, accessibility-guide and system-admin-guide

2006-03-08 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 14:14 +0200, Victor Osadci wrote: > Hi, > > Brent Smith wrote:[Wed Mar 08 2006, 07:57:49AM EET] > > I've been working on generating some new PDFs for the documentation in > > the gnome-user-docs package. I've come up with some build scripts[1] > > that generate some dec

Re: PDFs for user-guide, accessibility-guide and system-admin-guide

2006-03-08 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 09:54 +0200, Sean Wheller wrote: > On Wednesday 08 March 2006 07:57, Brent Smith wrote: > > I've been working on generating some new PDFs for the documentation in > > the gnome-user-docs package. I've come up with some build scripts[1] > > that generate some decent output us

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