Re: cURL author receives rude LogJ4 security inquiry

On 2022-02-25 00:45, Jean Louis wrote: * Alfred M. Szmidt [2022-02-25 10:47]: Please stop thinking you know what someone misunderstood or not, specially when they are not on this list and can respond. Allow me to think what I think as I have went through the book, and it is my impression

Re: cURL author receives rude LogJ4 security inquiry

On 2022-02-24 21:02, Richard Stallman wrote: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > That Linus Torvalds had serious

Re: cURL author receives rude LogJ4 security inquiry

On 2022-01-30 20:32, Akira Urushibata wrote: LogJ4 Security Inquiry - Response Required https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/01/24/logj4-security-inquiry-response-required/ On Friday January 21, 2022 I received this email. I tweeted about it and it took off like crazy. The email comes from a

Re: Judge declares zoom of iPhone image unacceptable in court

On 2021-11-15 13:36, Akira Urushibata wrote: I work on image processing software. I may, one day, be summoned to court to testify on the technology in use here. Software that enlarges images add pixels, but generally this is done by interpolation. A new pixel between an existing red pixel and

Re: "Freedom" is really the wrong word

On 2021-11-04 17:31, dick wrote: Got it. Companies aren't upfront about their motives. Got it. Companies maneuver to eliminate competitors, free or otherwise. Heaven forbid capitalist entities should resort to that kind of unconscionable gamesmanship. Dale Carnegie, you've been put on

Re: "Freedom" is really the wrong word

On 2021-11-04 10:06, dick wrote: There is nothing insidious with such a paint And yet, free software rhetoric emphatically characterizes nonfree as "causing harm in a way that is gradual or not easily noticed," which is Merriam-Webster's definition of "insidious." The paint in the example

Re: Continuation of my previous mail

On 2021-05-04 00:06, Rohit Dutt via General GNU project and free software discussions wrote: Just to get things straight and end the matter, what exactly is this "joke about _abortion_"??!! I don't find abortion anything to joke about. Someone tell me please. There was never any joke about

Re: police report against the petition mob

On 2021-03-28 17:49, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote: Daniel Pocock wrote: : host eggs.gnu.org[209.51.188.92] said: 550 bad domain - email sysad...@fsf.org for details (in reply to RCPT TO command) : host eggs.gnu.org[209.51.188.92] said: 550 bad domain - email sysad...@fsf.org for details

Re: Truth matters when writing software and selecting leaders

On 2021-03-25 18:57, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote: Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) wrote: On 2021-03-24 19:55, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote: Does there appear to be some form of hidden coordination behind these articles? As I understand, RMS always thought that proprietary software companies would make

Re: Truth matters when writing software and selecting leaders

On 2021-03-24 19:55, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote: Does there appear to be some form of hidden coordination behind these articles? As I understand, RMS always thought that proprietary software companies would make some kind of large legal attack on the GNU project, so he was very particular about

Re: Truth matters when writing software and selecting leaders

On 2021-03-24 19:13, Akira Urushibata wrote: Richard Stallman recently announced at LibrePlanet that he would return to the FSF board. Soon after this announcement, many articles appeared online stating strong objection to his return. I have read several of them and I do not like what I see.

Re: It is not easy to tell people about freedom

On 2020-11-07 14:49, Akira Urushibata wrote: Interesting story. Thank you. Does the current translation of www.gnu.org show anywhere inconsistencies in that context? https://www.gnu.org/home.ja.html The current Japanese translations of GNU documents uses "jiyuu" throughout. The

Re: Gow, Cygwin alternative refers to GNU programs as open source UNIX tools

On 2020-10-27 14:24, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice wrote: Jean Louis 写道： I did not notice it. There are no sources on Github, just binaries They take some effort to miss: . The situation here is that - gow-utilities-src-0.8.0.tar contains the

Re: Gow, Cygwin alternative refers to GNU programs as open source UNIX tools

On 2020-10-27 12:43, Jean Louis wrote: * Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) <936-846-2...@kylheku.com> [2020-10-27 22:13]: On 2020-10-27 07:43, Jean Louis wrote: > On this page accessible with LibreJS turned on: > https://github.com/bmatzelle/gow/wiki > > There is useful tool

Re: Gow, Cygwin alternative refers to GNU programs as open source UNIX tools

On 2020-10-27 07:43, Jean Louis wrote: On this page accessible with LibreJS turned on: https://github.com/bmatzelle/gow/wiki There is useful tool Gow that runs GNU programs on Windows, quote: Gow - The lightweight alternative to Cygwin There is a case to be made here that the project is GPL

Re: Concerns about GNU Bison maintenance.

On 2020-08-06 13:20, a...@gnu.org wrote: The GNU system, and GNU project is entierly volunteer based, and it is up to each maintainer to decide what features to work on and include. Though that seems like a nice abstraction, what if a situation arises that nobody wants to package newer

Re: Concerns about GNU Bison maintenance.

On 2020-08-06 01:35, a...@gnu.org wrote: What Jose mentioned, but also -- this all reads as if the GNU Bison maintainer is doing an excellent job adding new features and moving Where can I see a "product management roadmap" of Bison features: who are the stakeholders? Who is asking for what

Concerns about GNU Bison maintenance.

Hello everyone, Without a doubt, GNU Bison is an a cornerstone piece of the GNU system, relied upon by many programs. Developers rely on Bison to be stable. What I mean by this is that a project which has a mature Bison grammar file that changes very little or not at all over a long period of

Re: Bandwidth-hungry services burden the internet

On 2020-05-26 22:33, a...@gnu.org wrote: I have been through some strange experiences recently. Certain web pages take seconds to load. In some instances the communication fails with a time-out. This sounds like an issue with your ISP -- and not a general issue. Could be an issue with

Re: one-paragraph comments on s/w freedom being more important than tech niftiness

On 2020-05-08 17:40, Mark Galassi wrote: Dear GNU folk, Long ago I had a conversation with a fellow long-time GNU developer. We were talking about how we had come upon free software in the 1980s and early 1990s. We were discussing how sometimes we had felt exhilerated by, for example, the

Re: Shannon Dosemagen and the FSF

On 2020-03-02 11:01, Leo Famulari wrote: I am familiar with the Public Lab (2 words) and I think their work will be quite interesting to free software hackers. I don't have a shred of interest in it; I must not be a free software hacker. collaborations, not just over email. It makes sense to

Re: GNU/Guix

On 2020-02-27 17:25, I wrote: On 2020-02-27 13:46, a...@gnu.org wrote: I was wondering if it would be better to call GUIX GNU/GUIX. I was reading the wikipediea page of GUIX and there is a large dispute over its naming in the project. Are you saying that this dispute is described in the

Re: GNU/Guix

On 2020-02-27 13:46, a...@gnu.org wrote: I was wondering if it would be better to call GUIX GNU/GUIX. Why is that? The GUIX home page has "GNU Guix" plastered all over the place. Is that not good enough with the space instead the slash? People usually don't pronounce the slash in GNU/Linux

Re: Why the "social contract" should not be endorsed

On 2020-02-24 19:36, Alexandre François Garreau wrote: Le samedi 22 février 2020, 20:48:43 CET Andreas Enge a écrit : If anything, this message shows how much a code of conduct is needed. I’ve just read https://wiki.gnu.tools/wiki:code-of-conduct Note that there has been no initiative to

Re: ru...@mrbrklyn.com: Please remove me from your hang...@nylxs.com or vill...@mrbrklyn.com mailing lists

On 2020-02-24 17:34, J.B. Nicholson wrote: Alexandre François Garreau wrote: It was, and it is not “tolerated”, this is bad faith: it is simply impossible to do anything about that. gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org list owners could remove ru...@mrbrklyn.com from the list and make it clear that he

Re: State of the GNUnion 2020

On 2020-02-25 06:22, Andreas Enge wrote: On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 08:56:24AM -0500, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: The text circulated is not a text by or for the GNU project, so this is indeed not the best place for discussion of it Quite on the contrary, it is a text by members of the GNU Project

Re: Endorsing the GNU social contract

On 2020-02-23 01:34, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Per the request offered by email, I am offering my support for the GNU social contract. I, maintainer of package LilyPond, endorse version 1.0 of the GNU Social Contract, available at https://wiki.gnu.tools/gnu:social-contract. Did you read it

Re: Why the "social contract" should not be endorsed

On 2020-02-22 18:58, Amin Bandali wrote: "Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)" <936-846-2...@kylheku.com> writes: [...] You are sick. I urge you to consider the GNU Kind Communications Guidelines [0] when posting to GNU lists, as well as keeping this list's guidelines [1] in m

Re: lese majeste

On 2020-02-23 00:32, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: John Darrington writes: Hello John, On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 07:14:44PM +0100, Alexandre Fran?ois Garreau wrote: Le samedi 22 f??vrier 2020, 18:41:48 CET Ludovic Court??s a ??crit : > PS: It???s telling that yet another insulting message passed

Re: Why the "social contract" should not be endorsed

On 2020-02-22 19:38, Mike Gerwitz wrote: On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 20:48:43 +0100, Andreas Enge wrote: On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 10:26:22AM -0800, Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) wrote: On 2020-02-22 01:22, Andreas Enge wrote: > And another ad-hominem attack. Can you substantiate the claim of

Re: The General Public Licence (GPL) as the basic governance tool

On 2020-02-21 13:40, Mark Wielaard wrote: These are good questions and my apologies we didn't make this more clear. The GNU Social Contract is important because it defines what the GNU project stands for. How can you say that, when the GNU project has issued official statements disavowing it?

Re: State of the GNUnion 2020

On 2020-02-22 12:43, Samuel Thibault wrote: Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss), le sam. 22 févr. 2020 10:22:55 -0800, a ecrit: But does it? If inexperienced people are a protected class, then it doesn't matter how the blocking is done. The blocking violates the social contract and that's

Re: Why the "social contract" should not be endorsed

On 2020-02-22 12:31, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Andreas Enge, 22/02/20 21:48: If anything, this message shows how much a code of conduct is needed. Or maybe it shows there's a language barrier. Let's not rush to judge non-native English speakers, especially after having admitted that the

Re: Why the "social contract" should not be endorsed

On 2020-02-22 11:48, Andreas Enge wrote: On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 10:26:22AM -0800, Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) wrote: On 2020-02-22 01:22, Andreas Enge wrote: > And another ad-hominem attack. Can you substantiate the claim of us > being > powermongers? https://wiki.gnu.tools/

Re: State of the GNUnion 2020

On 2020-02-22 01:50, Samuel Thibault wrote: Really, not including the next generations in a project is running the risk of the project just dying with its leaders. Project "liveness" is not the ultimate value. If nobody is found who will maintain it the way it ought to be, then let it die. If

Re: Why the "social contract" should not be endorsed

On 2020-02-22 01:22, Andreas Enge wrote: And another ad-hominem attack. Can you substantiate the claim of us being powermongers? You have a Code of Conduct, the bulk of which is about how people will be kicked out. https://wiki.gnu.tools/wiki:code-of-conduct "Enforcement", "Ban",

Re: State of the GNUnion 2020

On 2020-02-22 01:50, Samuel Thibault wrote: Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss), le jeu. 20 févr. 2020 13:55:37 -0800, a ecrit: On 2020-02-20 11:42, Andreas R. wrote: > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 02:45:02PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > On the flip side, an argument is made that you

Re: State of the GNUnion 2020

On 2020-02-20 10:06, a...@gnu.org wrote: I'm not saying that GNU will necessarily stop growing and decline. What I'm afraid is that it might just become insignificant compared to others, and thus its voice for the 4 freedoms become less and less heard. I think everyone would agree that

Re: State of the GNUnion 2020

On 2020-02-20 11:42, Andreas R. wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 02:45:02PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > On the flip side, an argument is made that your initiative might make GNU > more exclusionary because of the extra conditions on what it takes to be a > part of it. At some point you have

Re: The General Public Licence (GPL) as the basic governance tool

On 2020-02-20 02:07, Dmitry Gutov wrote: On 20.02.2020 11:47, Ludovic Courtès wrote: I think it’s important for GNU hackers as a group to be able to reflect on the project’s procedures and discuss whether/how to improve them. So what GNU hackers who disagree with you lot on this or other

Re: Endorsement of the Social Contract 1.0

On 2020-02-20 05:43, Ludovic Courtès wrote: Hello, I, co-maintainer of GNU Guix, GNU Guile, the GNU Shepherd, and GNU Guile-RPC, and a contributor to other GNU packages, endorse version 1.0 of the GNU Social Contract, available at: https://wiki.gnu.tools/gnu:social-contract This endorsement

Re: State of the GNUnion 2020

On 2020-02-17 12:37, Andy Wingo wrote: Thought experiment: what would GNU be if all of its packages stopped developing? Dead, right? The immediate effect would become more of a stable base for the vast amount of material that depends on it. Nothing that depends on GNU Anything would

Re: The General Public Licence (GPL) as the basic governance tool

On 2020-02-18 04:55, Ludovic Courtès wrote: As a GNU user, you may not know it but GNU maintainers do not currently agree to uphold the free software values that we care about; they merely This is misleading. The situation is that GNU maintainers can *think* whatever they want, but in the

Re: Endorsing the GNU Social Contract

On 2020-02-16 11:28, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: The goal of the GNU Social Contract is to state the core values GNU maintainers who have endorsed it are committed to uphold. It is both an agreement among us, GNU contributors, and a pledge to the broader free software community. Thank you all

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

On 2020-02-16 11:42, Ruben Safir wrote: Richard Stallman was bullied from his position at MIT and FSF and the FSF should take the couragous move of reinstating Richard as President of the FSF The FSF minus Stallman is a rotten organization; simply adding Stallman back is not enough. It could

Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] duplicated messages and NYLXS cross-posting

On 2020-02-16 05:20, Alexandre François Garreau wrote: Le dimanche 16 février 2020, 10:43:44 CET Alfred M. Szmidt a écrit : Is FSF censoring gnu-misc-discuss and other GNU lists and are these other things an attempt to circumvent that? The FSF is not handling moderation of GNU project

Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] duplicated messages and NYLXS cross-posting

On 2020-02-16 05:29, Alexandre François Garreau wrote: Le dimanche 16 février 2020, 12:20:07 CET Daniel Pocock a écrit : Users who control their own mail servers probably have tactical solutions they can use, e.g. /etc/postfix/access Overkill, it’s not made for that, you’d better use

Re: GNU Social Contract 1.0: "level of experience" rhetoric

On 2020-02-14 15:58, Phil Maker wrote: Ludovic, ..., Re the Social Contract I'm sure greater minds than mine have looked at it but I feel obliged to make some sort of response of which the next paragraph is the only important one. Here is a problem: "[The GNU Project] welcomes all

Re: avoiding the bias in vocabulary

On 2020-02-15 09:56, Daniel Pocock wrote: There are a lot of words used in various discussions today that have some bias. For example, the word /ban/ is quite disparaging to the victim. Simply using the word continues the bias. Note that this word is quite central in the "Code of Conduct"

Re: GNU Social Contract 1.0 - doubts

On 2020-02-15 10:10, Andreas Enge wrote: thanks for thinking about the options and sharing your opinion! Speaking strictly logically, a third option is not possible "If you're not with us, you're against us, comrade." You may wanna brush up on logic, there, buddy. It's quite a broad field,

Re: Endorsing version 1.0 of the GNU Social Contract

On 2020-02-14 17:33, Mark Wielaard wrote: The goal of the GNU Social Contract is to state the core values GNU maintainers who have endorsed it are committed to uphold. It is both an agreement among us, GNU contributors, and a pledge to the broader free software community. You

Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] security alert... worth noting

On 2020-02-13 20:52, Marcel wrote: Hello Ruben, Yesterday I received a couple of hundred repeat emails similar to the one I am responding to (sometimes twice each, when I had already received another original from the gnu-misc-discuss list). All of them bear the [Hangout - NYLXS] label. When

Re: GSC 1.0 endorsement

On 2020-02-12 15:19, I wrote: The GNU project should also critically evaluate externally imposed requirements and reject bad ones, including ones coming from standards bodies like ISO and IEE. Turns out, this is basically covered in the GNU Coding Standards.

Re: Endorsing version 1.0 of the GNU Social Contract

On 2020-02-13 13:26, Daniel Pocock wrote: I, Frederic Y. Bois, maintainer of package GNU MCSim, endorse version 1.0 of the GNU Social Contract, available at . By the way, I'm offended by the sexual innuendo in this domain name. It's not okay to use

Re: Endorsing version 1.0 of the GNU Social Contract

On 2020-02-14 02:04, John Darrington wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 09:26:03PM +, Daniel Pocock wrote: Could it be better to work from the ground up, to document the points which almost everybody agrees on before talking about the points that are controversial? We have already done that.

Re: GSC 1.0 endorsement

On 2020-02-10 13:13, Ludovic Courtès wrote: Hi Werner, Werner Koch skribis: I, maintainer of the packages GnuPG and Libgcrypt, endorse version 1.0 of the GNU Social Contract, available at . There no such thing "GNU Social Contract" as of today.

Re: Endorsing version 1.0 of the GNU Social Contract

On 2020-02-10 07:32, Mark Wielaard wrote: There were several pieces of feedback that were either not sent to the public list, or are still held up in moderation. Maybe that contract should include a few clauses about not engaging in deceptive and illegal behavior. You should not be using the

Re: Endorsing version 1.0 of the GNU Social Contract

On 2020-02-06 09:32, Andrej Shadura wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/02/2020 13:39, fredomatic wrote: I, Frederic Y. Bois, maintainer of package GNU MCSim, endorse version 1.0 of the GNU Social Contract, available at .

Re: about the GNU promise

On 2020-02-03 07:28, Benno Schulenberg wrote: The second sentence says: "The GNU Project provides a software system..." The word "system" is both too vague and too all-encompassing; it sounds as It's just missing "operating" in front of it. if it wants to be a single, massive block of

Re: A summary of some open discussions

On 2020-01-11 21:52, Jean Louis wrote: * Thompson, David [2020-01-10 10:53]: The problem is that when he chooses to step in, GNU is worse off because of it. See the glibc abort "joke", "kind communication guidelines" vs. code of conduct, etc. - Dave It is not abort joke, it never was

Re: A GNU “social contract”?

On 2019-11-15 11:20, a...@gnu.org wrote: All in all, this should first be discussed with RMS before brought to > public discourse. It has been discussed with him and he has been told that these kind of discussions and decisions need to be made in public. I haven't seen you CC RMS,

Re: A GNU “social contract”?

On 2019-11-10 08:40, Ludovic Courtès wrote: Hello, "Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)" <936-846-2...@kylheku.com> skribis: By the way, "contract" seems like a misnomer, because a contract is a signed-off agreement between two parties (or more) in which they e

Re: Why "GNU/Linux" is not accepted: an observation

On 2019-11-09 11:10, Alexandre François Garreau wrote: Actually a lot of “high-level” user-end utilities are indeed not GNU… now even more so as Gnome is not anymore (and doesn’t want to be associated to) GNU. An unfortunate thing is that GNU project lacks indeed any full-featured server.

Re: Why "GNU/Linux" is not accepted: an observation

On 2019-11-08 00:29, Marcel wrote: On 11/8/19 3:01 PM, Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) wrote: A typical GNU/Linux distribution include more than just GNU userland on top of Linux. It can be argued that the name GNU/Linux is incomplete and excludes contributions from other sources, the same way

Re: Why "GNU/Linux" is not accepted: an observation

On 2019-11-07 14:36, Akira Urushibata wrote: The ordinary computer user who has been educated through Microsoft's marketing propaganda is likely to see the operating system as one entity. Note that the ordinary computer user of some BSD Unix variant also been thus "indoctrinated". The user

Re: Will RMS be back to Programming now?

On 2019-11-07 22:58, Jean Louis wrote: Dear Nala, Greetings to China. I am eating here with chopsticks... * Nala Ginrut [2019-11-07 15:03]: Hi Jean! Yes, I totally agreed. And I actually meant RMS's health status, personally I don't think the fame was hurt by the recent comments

Re: A GNU “social contract”?

By the way, "contract" seems like a misnomer, because a contract is a signed-off agreement between two parties (or more) in which they exchange something of value; the contract requires a contribution from at least two parties. A statement of promises to behave in some ways toward some group

Re: list moderation

On 2019-11-05 02:59, Ludovic Courtès wrote: A bit more than 24 hours later, two things have become clear to me: that Mark and Carlos were indeed doing a good moderation job, and that by not doing any moderation, you’ve opened the flood gates and silenced the rest of us. Funny though, I'm

Re: Women and GNU and RMS (was Re: something else)

In light of the changing shape of the list's moderation, the following is a re-post of a message that was previously rejected as being flamey or whatever. Well, is it? There is no hot temper behind it; I had it in draft form overnight, mulled over and reworded some things the next day. If

Re: A GNU “social contract”?

On 2019-10-28 13:06, Ruben Safir wrote: On 10/28/19 2:41 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: Jean Louis, le lun. 28 oct. 2019 21:54:00 +0530, a ecrit: Virgin joke is a joke Now that I have read about it, I can definitely say that it is a completely inappropriate "joke". Sure, it'll get a lot of people

Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization

On 2019-10-21 08:08, Mark Wielaard wrote: Hi, In practice GNU already is mostly a bottom-up organization, where the GNU hackers that do the actual work shape the project, but it would be nice to make it more formally so. That instinctively has me wondering what a "recursive descent"

New Lisp dialect: TXR Lisp.

Hi Gnumancers, Since around August 2009, I've been developing a language called TXR which consists of: * a pattern language (the TXR Pattern Language) for matching whole text documents/streams and scraping their contents. * an original Lisp dialect called TXR Lisp. page: