NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 14 June 2011 Lisp NYC Amphibious Operation, Paddy Mullen Head of Team

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
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  what=unofficial Lisp NYC announcement
  edits=one address suppressed

 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 15:40:14 -0400
 From: Paddy Mullen
 To: management managem...@lispnyc.org
 Subject: [Management] June Meeting Description

 Hello Lispers,

 We will hold our June 14th social meeting at the Manhattan Sailing
 Club floating clubhouse, which is anchored off of Ellis Island.  There
 is a bar at the clubhouse, and a great view of New York Harbor, more
 information here:
 http://myc.org/Clubhouse/default.htm .

 Launches start departing from North Cove marina (located on the Hudson
 behind the world financial center) at 6:00 pm, and leave on the half
 hour, the cost is $10 for a round trip.  If the weather is bad, then
 the meeting will be moved to PJ Clarke's in the world financial
 center.

 From
 Paddy
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Distributed poC TINC:

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LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization.
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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread Alexander Terekhov
The farce is over.

http://terekhov.de/204.pdf

regards,
alexander.

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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread Hyman Rosen

On 6/15/2011 8:35 AM, Alexander Terekhov wrote:

The farce is over.
http://terekhov.de/204.pdf


On this page, http://insigniaproducts.com/support.html, we have

Open Source Software

For OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE information
refer to the on-screen display on your
product. If you require additional
information or you wish to receive the
complete corresponding GPL or LGPL
licensed source code, please call the
Insignia support line at 1-877-467-4289.
This source code is available for a period
of three (3) years from the date of the
distribution of this product by Insignia.

The manual for the NS-WBRDVD player says:
http://insigniaproducts.com/cms/documents/NS-WBRDVD%20UM%20EN%20V4.pdf

PUBLIC LICENSE

This product contains software that is subject to the GNU Public
License Version 2 (GPL2). You can obtain a copy of the GPL
License from
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html.

If you require additional information or you wish to receive
source code, please call the Insignia support line at
1-877-467-4289. The source code is available for a period of
three (3) years from the date of the distribution of this product
by Insignia.

And this is then followed by the full text of the GPL2.

So Insignia at least appears willing to carry out the terms of the
GPL, even if it's not managing to actually accomplish that for some
of its products. As in most of these cases, there's no anti-GPL
prejudice going on, merely neglect and incompetence at getting it
right.
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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread Hyman Rosen

On 6/15/2011 3:17 PM, RJack wrote:

The GPL license was dead the day it was stillborn.


The GPL is in wide use, so you are wrong.
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No source code for Hyman - was: Re: Sharing the GPL source code, with value addition by vendor specific to his hardware?

2012-03-28 Thread Alexander Terekhov

Hyman Rosen wrote:
 
 On 10/13/2010 8:17 AM, Alexander Terekhov wrote:
  Hey Hyman how is the progress to get the source code for a refurbished
  Insignia player you so badly needed some time ago, silly?
 
  chuckles
 
 Nothing yet. This is, of course, why the SFLC is still pressing
 its suit against Insignia. If it gets to trial, Insignia will be
 in the rather odd position of having promised to comply with the
 GPL in its manual. Sounds like promissory estoppel to me.

On 06/14/2011 it was ordered to dismiss the claims against Insignia
(the defendant was Best Buy) WITH PREJUDICE per stipulation filed by
Busybox Plaintiffs and Insignia (the defendant was Best Buy).

http://terekhov.de/204.pdf

(In exchange Best Buy agreed that its counter claims against Busybox
plaintiffs be dismissed as well).

Forget the source code, Hyman.

Oh mighty mighty GPL...

chuckles

regards,
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Re: No source code for Hyman - was: Re: Sharing the GPL source code,with value addition by vendor specific to his hardware?

2012-03-28 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Hyman Rosen wrote:

[... blah blah ...]

Stop being silly and instead try to get the source code for Insignia
player that you reportedly needed so badly for so long time...

Then post here the results.

regards,
alexander.

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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread Alexander Terekhov

Hyman Rosen wrote:

[... blah blah ...]

Stop being silly and instead try to get the source code for Insignia
player that you reportedly needed so badly for so long time...

Then post here the results.

regards,
alexander.

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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread RJack

On 6/15/2011 3:32 PM, Hyman Rosen wrote:

On 6/15/2011 3:17 PM, RJack wrote:

The GPL license was dead the day it was stillborn.


The GPL is in wide use, so you are wrong.


Yep. And pigs hold hands while flapping their wings
ROFL.
Reality will eventually bite you in the ass Hyman.
LMAO.

Sincerely,
RJack :)
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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread Hyman Rosen

On 6/16/2011 3:57 PM, RJack wrote:

On 6/15/2011 3:54 PM, Hyman Rosen wrote:

On 6/15/2011 3:45 PM, RJack wrote:

On 6/15/2011 3:32 PM, Hyman Rosen wrote:

On 6/15/2011 3:17 PM, RJack wrote:

The GPL license was dead the day it was stillborn.


The GPL is in wide use, so you are wrong.


Yep. And pigs hold hands while flapping their wings ROFL. Reality
will eventually bite you in the ass Hyman. LMAO.


In reality, the GPL is in wide use. Even Insignia makes GPLed
sources available for at least one product, here:
http://insignia.chumby.com/pages/source_code


Yeah -- dismissal WITH PREJUDICE and forking over $75,000 in
attorneys' fees to Best Buy Inc. counsel ia a real victory Hyman.


According to the document that AT posted, http://terekhov.de/204.pdf:
Pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 41, plaintiffs
Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc. and Erik Anderson and defendant
BEST BUY CO.,INC hereby dismiss their claims against each other from
within this action WITH PREJUDICE with respect to any past claims for
certain Insignia Blu-ray products (NS-WBRDVD, NS-BRDVD3, NS-BRHTIB,
NS-BRDVD3-CA, NS-WBRDVD2, NS-BRDVD4, NS-BRDVD4-CA, NS-BRDVD, NS-2BRDVD,
and NS-BDLIVB01) and without costs to any party. Plaintiffs maintain
this action against all other defendants.

Why do you claim, in contradiction to this document, that SFLC
paid any costs to Best Buy?


The blithering idiots at SFC and SFLC can't even file a proper
copyright registration certificate. How would they ever defend
the use of an obviously unenforceable, crackpot license like the GPL?


Insignia provides GPLed code for its Chumby device
(http://insignia.chumby.com/pages/source_code)
and indicates its intention of compliance with the GPL in its DVD manuals
(e.g., 
http://insigniaproducts.com/cms/documents/NS-WBRDVD2-WBRDVD2-CA_10-0920_MAN_ENG_V5_Final%20press.pdf)
so it does not regard the GPL as either crackpot or unenforceable. It does
seem to have trouble coming into actual as opposed to claimed compliance.
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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread Hyman Rosen

On 6/15/2011 3:45 PM, RJack wrote:

On 6/15/2011 3:32 PM, Hyman Rosen wrote:

On 6/15/2011 3:17 PM, RJack wrote:

The GPL license was dead the day it was stillborn.


The GPL is in wide use, so you are wrong.


Yep. And pigs hold hands while flapping their wings
ROFL.
Reality will eventually bite you in the ass Hyman.
LMAO.


In reality, the GPL is in wide use. Even Insignia makes GPLed
sources available for at least one product, here:
http://insignia.chumby.com/pages/source_code
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NYC LOCAL: Thursday 16 June 2011 UNIGROUP: Anthony Ferrara on Preventing SQL Injection Attacks with MySQL

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
blockquote
  what=official UNIGROUP announcement
  rsvp=registration requested, see below
  entrance-fee=yes, see http://www.unigroup.org/unigroup-fees.html;
  location=The Cooper Union School of Engineering, see below
  info=http://www.unigroup.org;
  personal=Today, despite much press in computer journals, the
Theory of Types is hardly applied where it would do the most
good, namely in the design of more secure computer
communications systems.  Most 'command injection' attacks are
made possible by an absurd unconscious conflation of code and
input.  As all Lispers know, code is data, and data code, but we
decide when and where to apply the code == data functors.
  more=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_Types
[page was last modified on 20 May 2011 at 07:32]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_system
[page was last modified on 11 June 2011 at 04:55]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffer_overrun
[page was last modified on 11 April 2011 at 19:46]
  lisp-to-php:Tamreen Khan's Lisp to PHP compiler:
   http://scriptor.github.com/pharen/;
  edits=some paragraphs removed so notice fits in mailboxen

 Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:44:04 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Unigroup_of_NY unil...@unigroup.org
 Subject: UNIGROUP 16-JUN-2011 (Thu): Preventing SQL Injection Attacks with 
MySQL


 Unigroup is THIS THURSDAY...
 Please RSVP if you will be attending...

 =
 UNIGROUP OF NEW YORK - UNIX USERS GROUP - JUNE 2011 ANNOUNCEMENTS
 =

---
 1. UNIGROUP'S JUNE 2011 MEETING NOTICE
---

   When:  THURSDAY, June 16th, 2011(** Regular 3rd Thursday **)

  Where:  The Cooper Union  http://www.cooper.edu
  School of Engineering  (*** New Building ***)
  41 Cooper Square  (3rd Avenue @ 7th St, between 6th  7th Streets)
  East Village, Manhattan
  New York City, 10003
  Meeting Room: LL101_CS   (** LL=Lower Level **)
  ** Please RSVP **

   Time:  6:15 PM - 6:30 PM  Registration
  6:30 PM - 6:45 PM  Ask the Wizard, Questions,
 Answers and Current Events
  6:45 PM - 7:00 PM  Unigroup Business and Announcements
  7:00 PM - 9:30 PM  Main Presentation

   Cost:  See the Meeting+Membership Fee Schedule Below.

  ---
  Topic:  Preventing SQL Injection Attacks with MySQL
  ---

Speaker:  Anthony Ferrara,
  Senior PHP developer,
  NBC Universal.

---

INTRODUCTION:
-

Unigroup is pleased to announce our June 2011 meeting on Preventing
SQL Injection Attacks with MySQL.  Our speaker Anthony Ferrara has
presented to Unigroup twice before, on Serving High Performance Web
Sites - Where Apache Fails and Web Development: The Joomla! Content
Management System.

Unigroup's meeting calendar currently looks like:
  16-JUN-2011:  SQL Injection Attacks  MYSQL (Anthony Ferrara).
  21-JUL-2011:  Intel x86-32/64 Architecture, Part 2 (INTEL/Charles Milo).
  15-SEP-2011:  NFS and NFS Caching (Alacritech).
  17-NOV-2011:  OpenAFS (Jeff Altman).

Reserve the dates!  (No regular meeting in August.)

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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread RJack

On 6/15/2011 3:54 PM, Hyman Rosen wrote:

On 6/15/2011 3:45 PM, RJack wrote:

On 6/15/2011 3:32 PM, Hyman Rosen wrote:

On 6/15/2011 3:17 PM, RJack wrote:

The GPL license was dead the day it was stillborn.


The GPL is in wide use, so you are wrong.


Yep. And pigs hold hands while flapping their wings ROFL. Reality
will eventually bite you in the ass Hyman. LMAO.


In reality, the GPL is in wide use. Even Insignia makes GPLed
sources available for at least one product, here:
http://insignia.chumby.com/pages/source_code


Yeah -- dismissal WITH PREJUDICE and forking over $75,000 in
attorneys' fees to Best Buy Inc. counsel ia a real victory Hyman.

The blithering idiots at SFC and SFLC can't even file a proper
copyright registration certificate. How would they ever defend
the use of an obviously unenforceable, crackpot license like the GPL?

Sincerely,
RJack :)
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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread Alexander Terekhov

David Kastrup wrote:
 
 Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de writes:
 
  Hyman Rosen wrote:
 
  [... attorneys' fees to Best Buy Inc. counsel ... ]
 
  According to the document that AT posted, http://terekhov.de/204.pdf:
   Pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 41, plaintiffs
   Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc. and Erik Anderson and defendant
   BEST BUY CO.,INC hereby dismiss their claims against each other from
   within this action WITH PREJUDICE with respect to any past claims for
   certain Insignia Blu-ray products (NS-WBRDVD, NS-BRDVD3, NS-BRHTIB,
   NS-BRDVD3-CA, NS-WBRDVD2, NS-BRDVD4, NS-BRDVD4-CA, NS-BRDVD, 
  NS-2BRDVD,
   and NS-BDLIVB01) and without costs to any party. Plaintiffs maintain
   this action against all other defendants.
 
  Why do you claim, in contradiction to this document, that SFLC
  paid any costs to Best Buy?
 
  Not in contradiction. Court costs != attorney's fees. Apples and
  oranges, Hyman.
 
 So the payments are just your personal fantasies again, made up to match
 your impressively off-skew view of legal matters.

I made no claims regarding payments, silly. I just pointed out that such
payments are not in contradiction.

regards,
alexander.
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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread Alexander Terekhov

Hyman Rosen wrote:

[... attorneys' fees to Best Buy Inc. counsel ... ]

 According to the document that AT posted, http://terekhov.de/204.pdf:
  Pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 41, plaintiffs
  Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc. and Erik Anderson and defendant
  BEST BUY CO.,INC hereby dismiss their claims against each other from
  within this action WITH PREJUDICE with respect to any past claims for
  certain Insignia Blu-ray products (NS-WBRDVD, NS-BRDVD3, NS-BRHTIB,
  NS-BRDVD3-CA, NS-WBRDVD2, NS-BRDVD4, NS-BRDVD4-CA, NS-BRDVD, NS-2BRDVD,
  and NS-BDLIVB01) and without costs to any party. Plaintiffs maintain
  this action against all other defendants.
 
 Why do you claim, in contradiction to this document, that SFLC
 paid any costs to Best Buy?

Not in contradiction. Court costs != attorney's fees. Apples and
oranges, Hyman.

regards,
alexander.
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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread Alexander Terekhov

Hyman Rosen wrote:
 
 On 6/17/2011 9:35 AM, Alexander Terekhov wrote:
  SFLC claimed settlements without documentation and you were
   agreeingly happy with such claims. Why the difference now, Hyman?
 
 Because . . . [blah blah]

From google:

Another BusyBox victory for SFLC - SPTechWeb
7 Mar 2008 ... High-Gain Antennas had been sued by the SFLC in the U.S.
District Court for the Southern District of New York, on behalf of
BusyBox ...
www.sysmannews.com/SearchResult/31807 - Cached
BusyBox Developers Agree To End GPL Lawsuit Against Verizon ...
17 Mar 2008 ... The Software Freedom Law Center (SFLC) today announced
that ... Actiontec has agreed to appoint an Open Source Compliance
Officer within its ...
www.softwarefreedom.org/news/2008/.../busybox-verizon/ - Cached -
Similar
BusyBox Developers and Xterasys Corporation Agree to Settle GPL ...
17 Dec 2007 ... BusyBox is a lightweight set of standard Unix utilities
...
www.softwarefreedom.org/.../busybox-xterasys-settlement/ - Cached -
Similar
Show more results from softwarefreedom.org
BusyBox developers reach settlement with Xterasys
18 Dec 2007 ... In an announced yesterday, the SFLC reveals that the
BusyBox ... appoint an internal open source compliance officer to
oversee the company's ...
arstechnica.com/.../busybox-developers-reach-settlement-with-xterasys.ars
- Cached
Best Buy, Samsung, And Westinghouse Named In SFLC Suit Today [LWN.net]
14 Dec 2009 ... The SFLC confirmed BusyBox violations in nearly 20
separate products  to appoint a GPL compliance officer so it doesn't
happen again. ...
lwn.net/Articles/366467/ - Cached - Similar

Stop being utter idiot, Hyman.

regards,
alexander.

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Re: GPL'd utilities of libc6

2012-03-28 Thread Andrew Haley
Developer012000 brian.kyckelh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On my Ubuntu system, /usr/share/doc/libc6/copyright states that
 Most of the GNU C library is under the following copyright (which
 is LGPL'd) but that The utilities associated with GNU C library is
 under the following copyright (which is GPL'd). Would someone tell
 me which shared objects constitute these utilities?

Surely the utilities are the programs you run from the command line
whereas the library is the part you link to.  But that's just my
guess, and you'll have to have a look at the actual licences to know
for sure.

Andrew.
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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread Hyman Rosen

On 6/17/2011 8:47 AM, Alexander Terekhov wrote:

The contradiction would be if the court would order not to pay
attorney's fees.


Do you believe that at the conclusion of a case, one party pays
the attorney fees of another unless a court instructs them not
to do so? How odd.
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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread Alexander Terekhov

Hyman Rosen wrote:

[...]

 Have a nice day, Hyman! 
   _ _ 
  |A|   |A| 
  |L|   |L| 
  |E|   |E| 
  |X|   |X| 
  |A|   |A| 
  |N| /^^^\ |N| 
 _|D|_  (| o |)  _|D|_ 
   _| |E| | _(_---_)_ | |E| |_ 
  | | |R| ||-|_| |_|-|| |R| | | 
  |  |   / \   |  | 
   \/  / /(. .)\ \  \/ 
 \/  / /  | . |  \ \  \/ 
   \  \/ /||Y||\ \/  / 
\__/  || ||  \__/ 
  () () 
  || || 
 ooO Ooo 

regards,
alexander.

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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread Hyman Rosen

On 6/17/2011 10:07 AM, Alexander Terekhov wrote:


Hyman Rosen wrote:


On 6/17/2011 9:35 AM, Alexander Terekhov wrote:

SFLC claimed settlements without documentation and you were

agreeingly happy with such claims. Why the difference now, Hyman?

Because . . . [blah blah]


 From google:

(SFLC) today announced
the SFLC reveals
The SFLC confirmed

Stop being utter idiot, Hyman.


A statement by one of the parties to a suit is different from a
statement by a third party who has no inside knowledge of the case.
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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread Alexander Terekhov

 Have a nice day, Hyman! 
   _ _ 
  |A|   |A| 
  |L|   |L| 
  |E|   |E| 
  |X|   |X| 
  |A|   |A| 
  |N| /^^^\ |N| 
 _|D|_  (| o |)  _|D|_ 
   _| |E| | _(_---_)_ | |E| |_ 
  | | |R| ||-|_| |_|-|| |R| | | 
  |  |   / \   |  | 
   \/  / /(. .)\ \  \/ 
 \/  / /  | . |  \ \  \/ 
   \  \/ /||Y||\ \/  / 
\__/  || ||  \__/ 
  () () 
  || || 
 ooO Ooo 

regards,
alexander.

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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread Alexander Terekhov
RJack wrote:
 
 On 6/17/2011 8:55 AM, Hyman Rosen wrote:
  On 6/17/2011 8:47 AM, Alexander Terekhov wrote:
  The contradiction would be if the court would order not to pay
  attorney's fees.
 
  Do you believe that at the conclusion of a case, one party pays the
  attorney fees of another unless a court instructs them not to do so?
  How odd.
 
 How else do you believe a badly losing plaintiff gets a winning
 defendant to agree to a stipulated Rule 41 voluntary dismissal WITH
 PREDJUDICE?

David Leichtman 

Defendant  
Best Buy Co., Inc.  represented by David Leichtman 
Robins, Kaplan, Miller  Ciresi, LLP (NYC) 
601 Lexington Avenue, Suite 3400 
New York, NY 10022 
(212) 980-7400 
Fax: (212) 980-7499 
Email: dleicht...@rkmc.com 
LEAD ATTORNEY 
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED

(TERMINATED: 06/14/2011)

strikes again... 

The PACER reports:

06/30/2011 207  NOTICE OF APPEARANCE by David Leichtman on behalf of
ZYXEL Communications Inc. (Leichtman, David) (Entered: 06/30/2011)

regards,
alexander.

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NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 21 June 2011 NYLUG Hack Workshop

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
blockquote
  what=official NYLUG Hack Workshop announcement
  edits=

 From: NYLUG Announcements i...@nylug.org
 To: NYLUG Announcements nylug-annou...@nylug.org
 Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:20:01 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: [nylug-announce] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society, (Smalltalk, C++, 
Python) TOMORROW June 21 6:00PM-8:00PM
 Reply-To: Announcements from NYLUG nylug-annou...@nylug.org

 This is a reminder for the event detailed below.

 WORKSHOP / HACKFEST
 Date: Tuesday, June 21, 2011
 Time: 6:00pm
 Duration: 2 hours
 Location: NY Public Library Hudson Park Branch, 66 Leroy St., NY NY 10014

 Topics:
   Currently, we're working on the following topics and activities:

   * TeX and LaTeX teachings; Programming Basics (hosted by David Bristow)
   * Linux for Newcomers (hosted by Robert Menes and Stefanie Schulte)
   * Hardware Hacking projects (hosted by Jonas Arnoldo)

   Bring something to discuss! There's a blackboard, chalk, and Internet
   access.  Notebook computers are helpful but not required. Bring books!
   Bring hardware! Bring software! Bring friends!
   All levels of experience from totally new to experienced welcome!

   After workshops, the coordinators go out for dinner at Out of the
   Kitchen, located at 420 Hudson Street, just down the block from the
   library. Feel free to join us for some lively dinner conversations!

 Resources:
   *  LaTeX project homepage:
   http://www.latex-project.org/

   *  Ubuntu homepage:
   http://www.ubuntu.com/

   * Hack a Day:
   http://hackaday.com/

   *  NYLUG-Talk list
  http://nylug.org/listinfo/nylug-talk/

 Map  Directions:
   http://nylug.org/hackcalendar

   We meet in the basement. Enter the library and head to the back. If the
   door is closed when you arrive you can ask the manager of the library for
   the keys to the room if you're comfortable opening up the basement, or
   you can wait for some of the others to arrive.

 Description:
   We will continue meeting on a bi-weekly basis at the Hudson Library at
   66 Leroy St New York, NY 10014.

   It is helpful, but not necessary to have a notebook computer.  
   There's WiFi in the library for your convenience.  

 Mailing List:
   We have a mailing list!  Join it here:
   http://nylug.org/mailman/listinfo/hack

   or send mail to: hack-requ...@nylug.org
   with a Subject: subscribe

   There is also an RSS feed for the workshop mailing list at:
   http://nylug.org/mlist/hack.rss

 IRC Channel:
   On Freenode, in #nylug-hack .  Stop by #nylug also.
 The Next Meeting After This Meeting:
   The following Workshop will be held on: Tuesday, July 5, 2011 at 6:00 PM
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NYC LOCAL: Thursday 21 July 2011 UNIGROUP: Charles Milo on Intel Architecture and Processor Roadmap

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
blockquote
  what=official UNIGROUP announcement
  rsvp=registration requested, see below
  entrance-fee=yes, see http://www.unigroup.org/unigroup-fees.html;
  location=The Cooper Union School of Engineering, see below
  info=http://www.unigroup.org;
  edits=some paragraphs removed so notice fits in mailboxen

 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:19:48 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Unigroup_of_NY unil...@unigroup.org
 Subject: Reminder: UNIGROUP 21-JUL-2011 (Thu): Intel Architecture  Processor 
Roadmap - Part 2

 INTEL @ Unigroup is THIS Thursday...
 Please RSVP if you will be attending and have not already done so...

 Updated announcement...

 =
 UNIGROUP OF NEW YORK - UNIX USERS GROUP - JULY 2011 ANNOUNCEMENTS
 =

---
 1. UNIGROUP'S JULY 2011 MEETING NOTICE
---

   When:  THURSDAY, July 21st, 2011(** Regular 3rd Thursday **)

  Where:  The Cooper Union  http://www.cooper.edu
  School of Engineering  (*** New Building ***)
  41 Cooper Square  (3rd Avenue @ 7th St, between 6th  7th Streets)
  East Village, Manhattan
  New York City
  Meeting Room: 506_CS   (Note: Room Changes Month-to-Month)
  ** Please RSVP **

   Time:  6:15 PM - 6:30 PM  Registration
  6:30 PM - 6:45 PM  Ask the Wizard, Questions,
 Answers and Current Events
  6:45 PM - 7:00 PM  Unigroup Business and Announcements
  7:00 PM - 9:30 PM  Main Presentation

   Cost:  See the Meeting+Membership Fee Schedule Below.

  ---
  Topic:  Intel Architecture  Processor Roadmap - Part 2
  ---

Speaker:  Charles Milo,
  Enterprise Technical Specialist, Enterprise Solution Sales
  Intel Corporation http://www.intel.com

---

INTRODUCTION:
-

About a year ago, Charles Milo from Intel wow-ed Unigroup with
his Intel Processor Roadmap presentation... and now its finally time
for an update.  So, once again we announce:
  Intel is Coming! ... Intel is Coming!

This is a going to be another must-attend Intel meeting!

Note: We are going to try to start the Intel presentation as close
  to 6:30pm as possible.  Arrive early if you can.

Unigroup's meeting calendar currently looks like:
  21-JUL-2011:  Intel Architecture, Part 2 (INTEL/Charles Milo).
  15-SEP-2011:  NFS and NFS Caching (Alacritech).
  17-NOV-2011:  OpenAFS (Jeff Altman).

Reserve the dates!  (No regular meeting in August.)

---

SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS:
-

To REGISTER for this event, please RSVP by using the Unigroup
Registration Page:
  http://www.unigroup.org/unigroup-rsvp.html

This will allow us to automate the registration process.
(Registration will also add you to our mailing list.)
Please avoid Emailed RSVPs.

Please continue to check the Unigroup web site and meeting page,
for any last minute updates concerning this meeting.  If you
registered for this meeting, please check your Email for any last
minute announcements as the meeting approaches.  Also make sure
any anti-spam white-lists are updated to _ALLOW_ Unigroup traffic!
If you block Unigroup Emails, your address will be dropped from
our mailing list.

Also, if you have an interest in Unigroup, be sure to receive
Unigroup information DIRECTLY from Unigroup, via direct receipt
of Emails and by visiting the Unigroup Web Site.  NO OTHER SOURCE
provides timely, accurate and complete Unigroup information.

Please RSVP as soon as possible, preferably at least 2-3 days
prior to the meeting date, so we can plan the food order.
RSVP deadline is usually the night before the meeting day.

Note: RSVP is requested for this location to make sure the guard
  will let you into the building.  RSVP also helps us to
  properly plan the meeting (food, drinks, handouts,
  seating, etc.) and speed up your sign-in at the meeting.
  If you forget to RSVP prior to the meeting day, you may
  still be able to show up and attend our meeting, however,
  we cannot guarantee what building security will do if
  you are not on the list.

---

MAIN PRESENTATION
-

Topic:  Intel Architecture and Processor Roadmap - Part 2

Introduction  Description of Talk:
---

Charles Milo will be 

Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread RJack

On 6/17/2011 8:35 AM, Hyman Rosen wrote:

On 6/17/2011 6:53 AM, Alexander Terekhov wrote:

Why do you claim, in contradiction to this document, that SFLC
paid any costs to Best Buy?


Not in contradiction. Court costs != attorney's fees.


The document does not order either side to pay attorney's fees.


I would refer you to earlier claims concerning undocumented settlement
agreements as described by legal expert Hyman Rosen
who posts to this group.

Sincerely,
RJack :)
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Re: SFLC won a motion

2012-03-28 Thread Alexander Terekhov

Homer wrote:
[...]
 You don't /seriously/ expect fascist nuts like Terekhov to understand
 value in terms other than money, do you?

The entire point of copyright law is to give intangible work monetary
value by imposing monopoly on certain acts.

The German copyright law is very explicit in this respect:

http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/urhg/__32.html

Der Urheber hat für die Einräumung von Nutzungsrechten und die
Erlaubnis zur Werknutzung Anspruch auf die vertraglich vereinbarte
Vergütung. Ist die Höhe der Vergütung nicht bestimmt, gilt die
angemessene Vergütung als vereinbart. 

Back in 2000, 'free' software folks went to German Parliament asking to
add exemption to that rule (aka Linux-Klausel):

Der Urheber kann aber unentgeltlich ein einfaches Nutzungsrecht für
jedermann einräumen.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux-Klausel

Hintergrund und Geschichte [Bearbeiten]

Am 22. Mai 2000 hat das Bundesjustizministerium einen Gesetzesvorschlag
eingereicht, der das Urheberrecht modernisieren sollte. Dabei wurde in
den Bestimmungen zur angemessenen Vergütung des Urhebers festgelegt,
dass dem Schöpfer eines Werkes eine angemessene Beteiligung an den
Einnahmen gebührt.[2] In der Open-Source-Bewegung wurde dieser Vorschlag
stark kritisiert, da er das Geschäftsmodell von freier Software und
anderen auf Lizenzen wie der GPL beruhenden Werken unmöglich machen
würde. Dies führte dazu, dass auf Vorschlag des Instituts für
Rechtsfragen der Freien und Open Source Software die heute gültige
Bestimmung im Gesetzesentwurf vom 26. Juni 2001 von Fraktionen des
Bundestags aufgenommen wurde.[3] In der Begründung hieß es dazu:

„Der gesetzliche Vergütungsanspruch ist im Interesse des Urheberschutzes
im Voraus unverzichtbar, soweit der Urheber nicht jedermann
unentgeltlich ein einfaches Nutzungsrecht einräumt (Absatz 4 Satz 1).
Die aufgenommene Einschränkung beugt einer befürchteten
Rechtsunsicherheit für „Open Source“ Programme und anderem „Open
Content“ vor; im Bereich derartiger Lizenzbeziehungen, bei denen der
Urheber sein Werk der Allgemeinheit unentgeltlich zur Verfügung stellt,
kann weder eine zu Lasten des Urhebers gestörte Vertragsparität
vorliegen, noch sind insofern Missbrauchsmöglichkeiten denkbar.[4]“
Dieser Vorschlag wurde ins verabschiedete Gesetz aufgenommen. Er stellt
die Verwendung freier Lizenzen wie der GNU General Public License in
Deutschland auf eine rechtlich abgesicherte Basis.

regards,
alexander.

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Re: SFLC won a motion

2012-03-28 Thread Andrew Haley
In gnu.misc.discuss Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote:
 
 Homer wrote:
 [...]
 You don't /seriously/ expect fascist nuts like Terekhov to understand
 value in terms other than money, do you?
 
 The entire point of copyright law is to give intangible work monetary
 value by imposing monopoly on certain acts.
 
 The German copyright law is very explicit in this respect:
 
 http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/urhg/__32.html
 
 Der Urheber hat f?r die Einr?umung von Nutzungsrechten und die
 Erlaubnis zur Werknutzung Anspruch auf die vertraglich vereinbarte
 Verg?tung. Ist die H?he der Verg?tung nicht bestimmt, gilt die
 angemessene Verg?tung als vereinbart. 

I'm not proficient in German, but does this really say that the only
purpose of copyright is to deliver remuneration to an author?

WIPO is clear: The purpose of copyright and related rights is
twofold: to encourage a dynamic creative culture, while returning
value to creators so that they can lead a dignified economic
existence, and to provide widespread, affordable access to content for
the public.

Andrew.
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NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 9 August 2011 Lisp NYC: Stuart Sierra on The Expression Problem

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
blockquote
  what=official Lisp NYC announcement
  personal-remarks=David John Wheeler once said:
  'All problems in computer science can be solved
   by another level of indirection...
   Except for the problem of too many layers of indirection.'
   (above taken from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wheeler_%28computer_scientist%29
[page was last modified on 21 July 2011 at 17:20])
   For a large attempt on the general problem of indirection see
http://www.math.ias.edu/sp/univalent;
  edits=

 From: Brian Gruber lispnyc@brian.iheardata.com
 Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 12:19:18 -0400
 To: lisp-annou...@lispnyc.org
 Subject: [Lisp-announce] Next week: Stuart Sierra - The Expression Problem

 Hello Lispers,

 Please join us Tuesday, August 9th at 7pm for our monthly meeting.
 Direct from UeberConf, Stuart Sierra will speak about Clojure and the
 Expression Problem.

 ---

 What is the Expression Problem? The question is far from academic: any
 programmer working in mainstream object-oriented languages is bound to
 encounter it. As a young language on the JVM, Clojure has the
 opportunity to step back from mainstream approaches to object-oriented
 design, and get back to core concepts like type and polymorphism. As a
 Lisp, Clojure can offer features to achieve the goals of OOP with far
 greater flexibility than a traditional Object Oriented language ever
 could.

 Stuart Sierra is an actor/writer/coder who lives in New York City. He
 is a member of the Clojure/core team at Relevance, Inc. Stuart is the
 co-author of Practical Clojure (Apress, 2010). He received an M.S. in
 Computer Science from Columbia University and a B.F.A. in Theatre from
 New York University.

 ---

 The meeting will be at Meetup HQ, 632 Broadway, 3rd floor. Pizza and
 beer (and soft drinks) provided, courtesy of Meetup. RSVP at
 http://www.meetup.com/LispNYC/events/17577440/.

 RSVPing is not strictly required but is politely requested, as the
 amount of pizza will be determined by the number of members who RSVP.

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NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 25 October 2011 NYLUG Hack Workshop

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
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  what=official NYLUG Hack Workshop announcement
  edits=

 From: NYLUG Announcements i...@nylug.org
 To: NYLUG Announcements nylug-annou...@nylug.org
 Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:25:02 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: [nylug-announce] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society (Smalltalk, C++, 
Python) Tuesday October 25 6:00PM-8:00PM
 Reply-To: Announcements from NYLUG nylug-annou...@nylug.org

 WORKSHOP / HACKFEST
 Date: Tuesday, October 25, 2011
 Time: 6:00pm
 Duration: 2 hours
 Location: NY Public Library Hudson Park Branch, 66 Leroy St., NY NY 10014

 Topics:
   Currently, we're working on the following topics and activities:

   * TeX and LaTeX teachings; Programming Basics (hosted by David Bristow)
   * Linux for Newcomers (hosted by Robert Menes and Stefanie Schulte)
   * Hardware Hacking projects (hosted by Jonas Arnoldo)

   Bring something to discuss! There's a blackboard, chalk, and Internet
   access.  Notebook computers are helpful but not required. Bring books!
   Bring hardware! Bring software! Bring friends!
   All levels of experience from totally new to experienced welcome!

   After workshops, the coordinators go out for dinner at Out of the
   Kitchen, located at 420 Hudson Street, just down the block from the
   library. Feel free to join us for some lively dinner conversations!

 Resources:
   *  LaTeX project homepage:
   http://www.latex-project.org/

   *  Ubuntu homepage:
   http://www.ubuntu.com/

   * Hack a Day:
   http://hackaday.com/

   *  NYLUG-Talk list
  http://nylug.org/listinfo/nylug-talk/

 Map  Directions:
   http://nylug.org/hackcalendar

   We meet in the basement. Enter the library and head to the back. If the
   door is closed when you arrive you can ask the manager of the library for
   the keys to the room if you're comfortable opening up the basement, or
   you can wait for some of the others to arrive.

 Description:
   We will continue meeting on a bi-weekly basis at the Hudson Library at
   66 Leroy St New York, NY 10014.

   It is helpful, but not necessary to have a notebook computer.  
   There's WiFi in the library for your convenience.  

 Mailing List:
   We have a mailing list!  Join it here:
   http://nylug.org/mailman/listinfo/hack

   or send mail to: hack-requ...@nylug.org
   with a Subject: subscribe

   There is also an RSS feed for the workshop mailing list at:
   http://nylug.org/mlist/hack.rss

 IRC Channel:
   On Freenode, in #nylug-hack .  Stop by #nylug also.
 The Next Meeting After This Meeting:
   The following Workshop will be held on: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 at 6:00 PM
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NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 30 August 2011 NYLUG Hack Workshop

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
blockquote
  what=official NYLUG Hack Workshop announcement
  edits=

 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:20:01 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: [nylug-announce] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society, (Smalltalk, C++, 
Python) TOMORROW August 30 6:00PM-8:00PM
 Reply-To: Announcements from NYLUG nylug-annou...@nylug.org

 This is a reminder for the event detailed below.

 WORKSHOP / HACKFEST
 Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011
 Time: 6:00pm
 Duration: 2 hours
 Location: NY Public Library Hudson Park Branch, 66 Leroy St., NY NY 10014

 Topics:
   Currently, we're working on the following topics and activities:

   * TeX and LaTeX teachings; Programming Basics (hosted by David Bristow)
   * Linux for Newcomers (hosted by Robert Menes and Stefanie Schulte)
   * Hardware Hacking projects (hosted by Jonas Arnoldo)

   Bring something to discuss! There's a blackboard, chalk, and Internet
   access.  Notebook computers are helpful but not required. Bring books!
   Bring hardware! Bring software! Bring friends!
   All levels of experience from totally new to experienced welcome!

   After workshops, the coordinators go out for dinner at Out of the
   Kitchen, located at 420 Hudson Street, just down the block from the
   library. Feel free to join us for some lively dinner conversations!

 Resources:
   *  LaTeX project homepage:
   http://www.latex-project.org/

   *  Ubuntu homepage:
   http://www.ubuntu.com/

   * Hack a Day:
   http://hackaday.com/

   *  NYLUG-Talk list
  http://nylug.org/listinfo/nylug-talk/

 Map  Directions:
   http://nylug.org/hackcalendar

   We meet in the basement. Enter the library and head to the back. If the
   door is closed when you arrive you can ask the manager of the library for
   the keys to the room if you're comfortable opening up the basement, or
   you can wait for some of the others to arrive.

 Description:
   We will continue meeting on a bi-weekly basis at the Hudson Library at
   66 Leroy St New York, NY 10014.

   It is helpful, but not necessary to have a notebook computer.  
   There's WiFi in the library for your convenience.  

 Mailing List:
   We have a mailing list!  Join it here:
   http://nylug.org/mailman/listinfo/hack

   or send mail to: hack-requ...@nylug.org
   with a Subject: subscribe

   There is also an RSS feed for the workshop mailing list at:
   http://nylug.org/mlist/hack.rss

 IRC Channel:
   On Freenode, in #nylug-hack .  Stop by #nylug also.
 The Next Meeting After This Meeting:
   The following Workshop will be held on: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 at 6:00 
PM
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MICROSOFT ALERT!

2012-03-28 Thread Mark S Bilk
For more than ten years, there's been a huge flood of lying
anti-Linux propaganda posts sent to COLA, about 500,000 of
them.  Almost all have been posted via anonymous false
identities, like Lt Cmdr. Gaston J. Feeblebunny.

There is one, and only one, entity that has attacked Linux
over and over again, by many different means, including
anonymous propaganda messages, false advertising, fraudulent
lawsuits, etc., for fifteen years, and that is the Microsoft
Corporation.  It has spent well over $100,000,000 doing this.

In 1998, it was found that a flood of pro-Microsoft propaganda
messages with fake identities were being posted to Usenet
actually from within the microsoft.com domain, by paid Microsoft
employees:

http://everything2.com/title/Microsoft+grassroots+support

The flood of propaganda messages, mostly attacking Linux, using
every variety of lie, obscenity, personal attack, etc, has
never stopped.  But the senders have since employed various
techniques to prevent the messages from being traced back to
their source.

I've compiled a page of links to articles detailing Microsoft's
years of attacks on Linux (which have used many more techniques
than just propaganda messages):

http://cosmicpenguin.com/linux/MICROSOFTS_WAR_AGAINST_LINUX.html

If you read through the sites linked on that page, you'll get
an idea of the extent of evil perpetrated by the Microsoft
Corporation, even though I've only referenced its attacks on
Linux; the company has done many other bad things as well.

Seeing all the references together on one page has a powerful
effect.  One can't say, That's just a single incident.  You
can see that it's a WAR.

Apparently the Microsoft Corporation really doesn't want people
to read that information, because it has posted through one of
its anonymous identities a totally false warning that my site
is dangerous.  It's not.  I don't use Javascript, Flash, or PHP,
just simple HTML.  Microsoft has anonymously posted similar
bogus warnings against http://techrights.org , a site run by
Roy Schestowitz that exposes Microsoft's crimes in great detail.

Microsoft really is evil.  It's hard to accept that at first,
but if you read the evidence, and think about all of it together,
the conclusion is inescapable.

On Dec 6, 10:51 am, Lt Cmdr. Gaston J. Feeblebunny
feeblebu...@invalid.wrong wrote:
 Mark S Bilk m...@cosmicpenguin.com schreef in 
 berichtnews:4b4a872e-9430-42a7-913d-f725d34e1...@l19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...

  Microsoft Attacks Linux Organization In New York

  Both Foster and A. van der Berigheid are identities
  created by the Microsoft Corporation for the purpose of
  attacking Linux and its users in Usenet.  This has been
  going on for many years:

 http://XXX.com/linux/MICROSOFTS_WAR_AGAINST_LINUX.html

 Mark S Bilk tries to steal your private data from your PC or infest Android
 devices and older Windows machines,
 *please avoid the urls* on his website!!!
 His website is reported for further investigation to the 
 FBI:http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

  On Dec 5, 4:40 pm, Foster frankfoste...@yahoo.com wrote:
  On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 23:03:03 +0100, A. van der Berigheid wrote:
   secret...@lxny.org schreef in bericht
  news:jbhj4c$22s$1...@panix5.panix.com...
   NYLUG will meet at 6:00 pm in the
   basement of the
   ^^

   Hi Jay,
   Are you the sys admin over there?
  http://fandomscaresus.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/basementdweller.jpg

  You're giving those oddballs too much credit.
  I'll bet the library has them hide in the basement
  so they don't stink up the main room and scare the
  more socially and hygienically normal patrons away.
  --
  foster

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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread Alexander Terekhov

RJack wrote:
[...]
 Let the games begin anew with an amended complaint.

LOL.

http://www.terekhov.de/224.pdf

At the time of the original complaint, Plaintiffs had only registered
their copyright in one version of BusyBox, version 0.60.3. Compl. ¶ 31.
However, Plaintiffs did not limit their complaint to just that
registered copyright, but instead asserted their unregistered copyrights
as well. Plaintiffs believe they are entitled to assert their
unregistered copyrights along with the assertion of their registered
copyright in order to seek an injunction against infringement of those
unregistered copyrights, even if they may not be entitled to seek
damages for infringement of those copyrights when unregistered.
Nevertheless, Plaintiffs have since registered or submitted applications
for registration of their copyrights in additional versions of BusyBox
and seek leave to file an Amended Complaint setting forth details of
those registrations and applications for registration. Declaration of
Daniel B. Ravicher in Support of Plaintiffs' Motion to Amend Complaint,
Ex. 1 (proposed Amended Complaint) (“Am. Compl.”), ¶¶ 10, 21.

The SDNY bar should be ashamed of INCOMPETENT 'lawyers' such as Dan
Ravicher and all others SFLC 'lawyers' who already left the ship:

05/19/2011 197  MOTION for Michael Andrew Spiegel to Withdraw as
Attorney. Document filed by Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc..(Spiegel,
Michael) (Entered: 05/19/2011) 
06/10/2011 202  MOTION for Mishi Choudhary to Withdraw as Attorney.
Document filed by Erik Andersen, Software Freedom Conservancy,
Inc..(Ravicher, Daniel) (Entered: 06/10/2011) 
06/20/2011 205  MOTION for Aaron Kyle Williamson to Withdraw as
Attorney. Document filed by Erik Andersen, Software Freedom Conservancy,
Inc..(Ravicher, Daniel) (Entered: 06/20/2011) 

regards,
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NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 13 September 2011 Lisp NYC: John Cowan on R7RS

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
blockquote
  what=official Lisp NYC announcement
  more=http://www.schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/
http://www.r6rs.org/
http://www.r7rs.org/;
  and=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheme_%28programming_language%29
   [page was last modified on 6 September 2011 at 20:01]
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALGOL
   [page was last modified on 28 August 2011 at 19:27]
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BASIC
   [page was last modified on 11 September 2011 at 05:38]
  personal-remark=I use with satisfaction Aubrey Jaffer's SCM:
   http://people.csail.mit.edu/jaffer/SCM;
  rsvp=Yes, please, see below.
The amount of pizza is finely calculated.
  edits=

 From: Brian Gruber lispnyc@brian.iheardata.com
 Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:08:15 -0400
 To: lisp-annou...@lispnyc.org
 Subject: [Lisp-announce] Next week: What's new in R7RS with John Cowan

 Hello Lispers,

 Please join us next Tuesday, September 13th at 7pm for our monthly
 meeting. This month, we focus our attention on Scheme with John
 Cowan's much-anticipated talk on R7RS.

 ---

 Scheme is undergoing another revision cycle. Because of widespread
 dissatisfaction with and resistance to R6RS, the Scheme Steering
 Committee (Will Clinger, Marc Feeley, Chris Hanson, Jonathan Rees, and
 Olin Shivers) decided to standardize two Schemes: a small language,
 the direct successor to R5RS; and a large language, potentially larger
 than R6RS or even ANSI Common Lisp.

 Two Working Groups called WG1 and WG2 respectively were selected by
 the Committee from volunteers. WG1 has been working busily, enhancing
 R5RS with new features and improvements on existing features, with
 reference to the consistency of the language and consistency with
 existing implementations. The completion of that process is now in
 sight with the publication of the third working draft of the small
 language.

 John Cowan is a member of both WGs and the chair of WG2. His talk will
 discuss the goals of small Scheme, what WG1 has done, what it has left
 to do, and (time permitting) something of WG2's work and plans to
 date.

 ---

 This month's meeting will be at Meetup HQ, 632 Broadway, 3rd floor. Pizza and
 beer (and soft drinks) provided, courtesy of Meetup. RSVP at
 http://www.meetup.com/LispNYC/events/18481411/

 RSVPing is not strictly required but is politely requested, as the
 amount of pizza will be determined by the number of members who RSVP.

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NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 11 October 2011 NYLUG Hack Workshop

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
blockquote
  what=official NYLUG Hack Workshop announcement
  edits=

 From: NYLUG Announcements i...@nylug.org
 To: NYLUG Announcements nylug-annou...@nylug.org
 Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:20:01 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: [nylug-announce] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society, (Smalltalk, C++, 
Python) TOMORROW October 11 6:00PM-8:00PM
 Reply-To: Announcements from NYLUG nylug-annou...@nylug.org

 This is a reminder for the event detailed below.

 WORKSHOP / HACKFEST
 Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2011
 Time: 6:00pm
 Duration: 2 hours
 Location: NY Public Library Hudson Park Branch, 66 Leroy St., NY NY 10014

 Topics:
   Currently, we're working on the following topics and activities:

   * TeX and LaTeX teachings; Programming Basics (hosted by David Bristow)
   * Linux for Newcomers (hosted by Robert Menes and Stefanie Schulte)
   * Hardware Hacking projects (hosted by Jonas Arnoldo)

   Bring something to discuss! There's a blackboard, chalk, and Internet
   access.  Notebook computers are helpful but not required. Bring books!
   Bring hardware! Bring software! Bring friends!
   All levels of experience from totally new to experienced welcome!

   After workshops, the coordinators go out for dinner at Out of the
   Kitchen, located at 420 Hudson Street, just down the block from the
   library. Feel free to join us for some lively dinner conversations!

 Resources:
   *  LaTeX project homepage:
   http://www.latex-project.org/

   *  Ubuntu homepage:
   http://www.ubuntu.com/

   * Hack a Day:
   http://hackaday.com/

   *  NYLUG-Talk list
  http://nylug.org/listinfo/nylug-talk/

 Map  Directions:
   http://nylug.org/hackcalendar

   We meet in the basement. Enter the library and head to the back. If the
   door is closed when you arrive you can ask the manager of the library for
   the keys to the room if you're comfortable opening up the basement, or
   you can wait for some of the others to arrive.

 Description:
   We will continue meeting on a bi-weekly basis at the Hudson Library at
   66 Leroy St New York, NY 10014.

   It is helpful, but not necessary to have a notebook computer.  
   There's WiFi in the library for your convenience.  

 Mailing List:
   We have a mailing list!  Join it here:
   http://nylug.org/mailman/listinfo/hack

   or send mail to: hack-requ...@nylug.org
   with a Subject: subscribe

   There is also an RSS feed for the workshop mailing list at:
   http://nylug.org/mlist/hack.rss

 IRC Channel:
   On Freenode, in #nylug-hack .  Stop by #nylug also.
 The Next Meeting After This Meeting:
   The following Workshop will be held on: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 at 6:00 PM
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BusyBox and the GPL... LMAO

2012-03-28 Thread me


LMAO... A BSD replacement for BusyBox under a BSD license.

From ROB LANDLEY no less:
Toybox is released under a simple 2-clause BSD-style license.

http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Controversy-around-Busybox-alternative-1426119.html

http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/52496-busybox-replacement-project-fuels-animated-verbal-spat

http://www.landley.net/toybox/about.html

Sincerely,
RJack :)
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NYC LOCAL: Wednesday 4 January 2012 NYCBUG: Matthew Story on AWK

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
blockquote
  what=official NYC*BUG announcement
  and=Tuesday 10 January 2012 NYC Lisp will meet.
   There may be discussion of the fact that if your distributed
   Lisp program and test suite are insufficiently circular,
   then running them on quantum computers gets you nothing more.
  edits=some oddly placed equals signs removed

 Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 12:01:35 -0500
 To: annou...@lists.nycbug.org
 From: NYC*BUG Announcements annou...@lists.nycbug.org
 Subject: [announce] NYC*BUG This Wednesday: AWK
 Reply-To: annou...@lists.nycbug.org

 Onward into the ninth year of NYC*BUG!

 *  Wednesday January 4th Meeting

 *  February Meeting Call for Presentations

 *

 January 04, 2012
 Matthew Story on AWK

 6:45 PM, Suspenders Restaurant backroom
 111 Broadway in Manhattan

 Your developers came to you wanting to use a new programming framework

 they just saw on MTV.

 It only builds on Ubuntu, and requires some bleeding-edge ports only

 available as .deb packages, as well as some large rpm`s which for some

 reason only install via yum. Not to mention you run a largely *BSD

 environment, with a few Linux, Solaris, UNIX etc=85 boxes in the mix.

 This is the moment when you whip out awk(1), on any of your UNIX

 systems, and proceed to blow their minds.

 Bio

 Matthew Story is a software developer at Tablet Hotels, who regularly

 abuses tcp services for fun and profit.

 *

 Our February meeting will be on BSD Networking Topics.

 We are looking for additional contributions on anything relevant to the

 day-to-day grind of using the BSDs in production network environments.

 Topics are expected to be short presentations on anything from useful

 scripts or configuration tweaks.

 Email your submission to admin@ to discuss further.  We particularly

 encourage:

 * speakers who have not presented at NYC*BUG before

 * utilization of Unix as a tool kit of interoperability
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Re: Stallmanism.com

2012-03-28 Thread Andrew Haley
nore...@z505.com wrote:
 Hello, can someone tell me if this site is correct?
 
 http://www.stallmanism.com/

I'd quibble with parts of it.  For example: Stallmanism embraces
those who worship other texts, so long as they are Free Software
Licenses as defined the FSF.  I don't think this is true: only GPL-
compatible Free Software Licenses are included.  ;-)

Andrew.
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NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 27 March 2012 Richard Stallman will speak on A Free Digital Society

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
blockquote
  what=official FSF announcement
  time=Note that the talk begins at 1:30 pm.
  edits=many, including reformatting, and adding information

 Subject: For a Free Digital Society -- Free Software Foundation -- working 
together for free software
 X-URL: http://www.fsf.org/events/20120327-newyork

  ... /

 Free Software Foundation

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 For a Free Digital Society

by Jeanne Rasata Contributions -- Published on Feb 20, 2012 12:47 PM

Richard Stallman will speak, starting at 1:30 pm,
on Tuesday 27 March 2012 in
room 630 of Haaren Hall, at
John Jay College, which is at
899 Tenth Avenue between 58th and 59th Street,
on the Island of the Manahattoes.

This is a speech by FSF president and founder, Richard M. Stallman.

See a list of all upcoming talks by Richard M. Stallman or help promote
the event by downloading posters for Stallman events
When Mar 27, 2012
from 01:30 PM to 03:30 PM
Where New York, NY
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rights, whether digital inclusion is good or bad depends on what kind of
digital world we are to be included in. If we wish to work towards
digital inclusion as a goal, it behooves us to make sure it is the good
kind.

Please fill out this form, so that we can contact you about future events
in and around New York City.
The form may be found on the page:
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NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 13 March 2012 NYLUG Workshop and Hacking Society

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
blockquote
  what=official NYLUG announcement
  edits=

 From: NYLUG Announcements i...@nylug.org
 To: NYLUG Announcements nylug-annou...@nylug.org
 Date: Fri,  9 Mar 2012 09:25:02 -0500 (EST)
 Subject: [nylug-announce] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society (Smalltalk, C++, 
Python) Tuesday March 13 6:00PM-8:00PM
 Reply-To: Announcements from NYLUG nylug-annou...@nylug.org

 This is a reminder for the event detailed below.

 WORKSHOP / HACKFEST
 Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2012
 Time: 6:00pm
 Duration: 2 hours
 Location: NY Public Library Hudson Park Branch, 66 Leroy St., NY NY 10014

 Topics:
   Our coordinators will be showing off basic hardware hacks and electronics
 projects, and there will be lessons in Python by David Bristow.

   Bring something to discuss! There's a blackboard, chalk, and Internet
   access.  Notebook computers are helpful but not required. Bring books!
   Bring hardware! Bring software! Bring friends! Bring tales and stories!
   All levels of experience from totally new to experienced welcome!

   After workshops, the coordinators go out for dinner at Out of the
   Kitchen, located at 420 Hudson Street, just down the block from the
   library. Feel free to join us for some lively dinner conversations!

 Resources:
   *  LaTeX project homepage:
   http://www.latex-project.org/

   *  Ubuntu homepage:
   http://www.ubuntu.com/

   * Hack a Day:
   http://hackaday.com/

   *  Python homepage:
  http://www.python.org/

   *  Squeak Smalltalk homepage:
  http://www.squeak.org

   *  Retro Thing homepage:
  http://www.retrothing.com

   *  Arduino homepage:
  http://www.arduino.cc

   *  NYLUG-Talk list
  http://nylug.org/listinfo/nylug-talk/

 Map  Directions:
   http://nylug.org/hackcalendar

   We meet in the basement. Enter the library and head to the back. If the
   door is closed when you arrive you can ask the manager of the library for
   the keys to the room if you're comfortable opening up the basement, or
   you can wait for some of the others to arrive.

 Description:
   We will continue meeting on a bi-weekly basis at the Hudson Library at
   66 Leroy St New York, NY 10014.

   It is helpful, but not necessary to have a notebook computer.  
   There's WiFi in the library for your convenience.  

 Mailing List:
   We have a mailing list!  Join it here:
   http://nylug.org/mailman/listinfo/hack

   or send mail to: hack-requ...@nylug.org
   with a Subject: subscribe

   There is also an RSS feed for the workshop mailing list at:
   http://nylug.org/mlist/hack.rss

 IRC Channel:
   On Freenode, in #nylug-hack .  Stop by #nylug also.
 The Next Meeting After This Meeting:
   The following Workshop will be held on: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 at 6:00 PM
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Re: SFLC won a motion

2012-03-28 Thread Homer
Verily I say unto thee that Hyman Rosen spake thusly:
 On 8/15/2011 4:31 PM, Alexander Terekhov wrote:
 http://terekhov.de/211.pdf

 Because WD has not met its burden of demonstrating that its use of
 the BusyBox software would not affect the value of plaintiffs'
 copyright...

 What the FUCK Judge SCHEINDLIN is talking about regarding affect the
 value of plaintiffs' copyright...?

 Hey dak and Hyman, any ideas?(%^$%*^%#$@@#(PO(*_)^%

 Certainly. The copyright holders wish to use their exclusive rights
 granted to them by copyright law to encourage growth of free software.
 They do this by granting permission to copy and distribute their
 copyrighted work only to those who comply with the GPL, in the belief
 that such compliance accomplishes what they wish. Copying and
 distributing BusyBox in violation of the GPL will not, in the
 plaintiffs' opinion, encourage the growth of free software, and
 therefore their copyright is being devalued.

You don't /seriously/ expect fascist nuts like Terekhov to understand
value in terms other than money, do you?

The value of Free Software is its freedom, including the Freedom to
make money from it, as Red Hat, Google and others have done, provided
the beneficiaries extend that same freedom to others. WD took all the
benefits, but didn't extend them to others, and so violated the GPL.

It's not a difficult concept to grasp, unless you're the sort of thug
that drools over monopolistic subjugation, like Terekhov.

-- 
K.   | Everything that should be is working.
http://slated.org| ~ Vostok 1 designer and chief engineer,
Fedora 8 (Werewolf) on šky   | Sergei Korolev, to Yuri Gagarin, during
kernel 2.6.31.5, up 84 days  | the first manned space mission.
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NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 17 January 2012 NYLUG General Meeting on New Charter

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
blockquote
  what=official NYLUG announcement
  edits=

 From: Sunny Dubey i...@nylug.org
 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:30:20 -0500
 To: NYLUG nylug-t...@nylug.org, nylug-annou...@nylug.org
 Subject: [nylug-announce] Tonight! NYLUG Workshop Special meeting: Charter 
Drafting Round Table - 6:00PM-8:00PM
 Reply-To: Announcements from NYLUG nylug-annou...@nylug.org

 Date: Tuesday, January 17th
 Time: 6:00pm
 Duration: 2 hours
 Location: NY Public Library Hudson Park Branch, 66 Leroy St, NY NY 10014

 Topics:
 The upcoming Hack Workshop will be hosting a community meeting for the
 New York Linux Users Group (NYLUG).

 NYLUG needs to draft and define a charter. This charter will give
 NYLUG the ability to operate and provide official membership to its
 members.

 The charter in its current form is here:

 http://spinoza.opsrealist.info/charter/index.php/Charter

 The discussion about the charter is here:

 http://spinoza.opsrealist.info/charter/index.php/Talk:Charter

 All are invited to participate. NYLUG is nothing without you.

 We can also continue talks at the Village Tavern nearby after the
 library closes:

 http://villagetavernnyc.com/
 46 Bedford Street  New York, NY 10014

 Map  Directions:
 http://nylug.org/hackcalendar

 We meet in the basement. Enter the library and head to the back. If
 the door is closed when you arrive you can ask the manager of the
 library for the keys to the room if you're comfortable opening up the
 basement, or you can wait for some of the others to arrive.

 It is helpful, but not necessary to have a notebook computer.
 There's WiFi in the library for your convenience.

 Hack Mailing List:
 We have a mailing list!  Join it here:
 http://nylug.org/mailman/listinfo/hack

 or send mail to: hack-request at nylug.org
 with a Subject: subscribe

 There is also an RSS feed for the workshop mailing list at:
 http://nylug.org/mlist/hack.rss

 NYLUG Hack IRC Channel:
 On Freenode, in #nylug-hack .  Stop by #nylug also.
 The Next Meeting After This Meeting:
 The following Workshop will be held on: Tuesday, January 31st, 2012 at 6:00 PM
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Re: Another new subsciber

2012-03-28 Thread Alan Mackenzie
jt...@cs.mtsu.edu wrote:
 Woo! I have just set up gnus for news.gnus.org! It has been fun leaning
 a linux based system. I hope this place will be full with discussion!

Hi, there!  I do hope you're holding it so that it won't fall over.  ;-)
A linux based system?  Would that be GNU/Linux or Android or something
else?

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

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Re: NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 21 June 2011 NYLUG Hack Workshop

2012-03-28 Thread Ezekiel

secret...@lxny.org wrote in message news:itnoi7$gap$1...@panix3.panix.com...

 Map  Directions:
   http://nylug.org/hackcalendar

   We meet in the basement. Enter the library and head to the back.

Why the basement?




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NYC LOCAL: Wednesday 3 August 2011 NYCBUG: BSD Networking Topics

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
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  what=official NYC*BUG announcement
  lambda-the-forbidden=Stuart Sierra will speak about
Clojure and the Expression Problem
at Lisp NYC on
Tuesday 9 August 2011:
http://lispnyc.org

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-clojure-protocols/
http://stuartsierra.com/;
  upcoming=First Bitcoin Conference
Island of the Manahattoes
19-21 August 2011
http://bitcoinme.com/index.php/bitcon-2011/;
  edits=

 Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 11:38:19 -0400
 To: annou...@lists.nycbug.org
 From: NYC*BUG Announcements annou...@lists.nycbug.org
 Subject: [announce] NYC*BUG Wednesday: BSD Networking Topics
 Reply-To: annou...@lists.nycbug.org

 This Wednesday will be another session of several BSD networking topics.

 August 03, 2011
 BSD Networking Topics

 6:45 PM, Suspenders Restaurant backroom
 111 Broadway in Manhattan
 http://www.suspendersbar.com/

 Our August meeting will feature another series of short presentations 
 related to BSD Networking.

 Topics will include:

 * Bruno on packet tagging with pf
 * Bill on fun with tcpdump

 And possibly a GEOM-related talk.

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Re: BusyBox and the GPL... LMAO

2012-03-28 Thread Ivan Shmakov
 landley writes:

[Dropped news:comp.os.linux.advocacy for nntp://aioe.org/ is
against such a cross-post.]

[…]

  They never resulted ina single line of code added to the busybox
  repository.  They HAVE resulted in more than one company exiting
  Linux development entirely and switching to non-Linux operating
  systems for their embedded products, and they're a big part of the
  reason behind Android's No GPL in userspace policy.  (Which is
  Google, not Sony.)

I like this one.  Earlier, we've had proprietary solutions, from
a variety of vendors (including, but not limited, to a certain
corporation based in Redmond), which weren't based on Linux.

Then, we've (allegedly) had proprietary solutions, from another
host of vendors, which were based Linux.

Now, they say that we're going to have proprietary solutions
which aren't based on Linux once again.

Doesn't it seem like a complete disaster for those of us who
/love/ to tinker much more than to play new shiny toys, or do
our respective full time jobs?

[…]

-- 
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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread RJack


Erik Andersen has registered BusyBox 1.00 with the Copyright Office:



BusyBox, version 1.00.
Type of Work:   Text
Registration Number / Date: TX0007412131 / 2011-09-06
Application Title:  BusyBox, version 1.00.
Title:  BusyBox, version 1.00.
Description:Electronic file (eService)
Copyright Claimant: Erik Andersen, 1971- . Address: 352 N 525 East,

SPRINGVILLE, UT, 84663-1579, United States.
Date of Creation:   2004
Date of Publication:2004-10-13
Nation of First Publication:United States
Authorship on Application:  Erik Andersen, 1971- ; Domicile: United

States; Citizenship: United States. Authorship: text, compilation, editing,

computer program.
Previous Registration:  2008, TX 6-869-051.
Pre-existing Material:  text, computer program.
Basis of Claim: text, compilation, editing, computer program.
Rights and Permissions: Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc., 137

MONTAGUE ST STE 380, BROOKLYN, NY, 11201, United States

*

Let the games begin anew with an amended complaint.

Sincerely,
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NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 7 June 2011 NYLUG Hack Workshop

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
blockquote
  what=official NYLUG Hack Workshop announcement
  edits=

 From: NYLUG Announcements i...@nylug.org
 To: NYLUG Announcements nylug-annou...@nylug.org
 Date: Fri,  3 Jun 2011 09:25:02 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: [nylug-announce] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society (Smalltalk, C++, 
Python) Tuesday June 7 6:00PM-8:00PM
 Reply-To: Announcements from NYLUG nylug-annou...@nylug.org

 This is a reminder for the event detailed below.

 WORKSHOP / HACKFEST
 Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011
 Time: 6:00pm
 Duration: 2 hours
 Location: NY Public Library Hudson Park Branch, 66 Leroy St., NY NY 10014

 Topics:
   Currently, we're working on the following topics and activities:

   * TeX and LaTeX teachings; Programming Basics (hosted by David Bristow)
   * Linux for Newcomers (hosted by Robert Menes and Stefanie Schulte)
   * Hardware Hacking projects (hosted by Jonas Arnoldo)

   Bring something to discuss! There's a blackboard, chalk, and Internet
   access.  Notebook computers are helpful but not required. Bring books!
   Bring hardware! Bring software! Bring friends!
   All levels of experience from totally new to experienced welcome!

   After workshops, the coordinators go out for dinner at Out of the
   Kitchen, located at 420 Hudson Street, just down the block from the
   library. Feel free to join us for some lively dinner conversations!

 Resources:
   *  LaTeX project homepage:
   http://www.latex-project.org/

   *  Ubuntu homepage:
   http://www.ubuntu.com/

   * Hack a Day:
   http://hackaday.com/

   *  NYLUG-Talk list
  http://nylug.org/listinfo/nylug-talk/

 Map  Directions:
   http://nylug.org/hackcalendar

   We meet in the basement. Enter the library and head to the back. If the
   door is closed when you arrive you can ask the manager of the library for
   the keys to the room if you're comfortable opening up the basement, or
   you can wait for some of the others to arrive.

 Description:
   We will continue meeting on a bi-weekly basis at the Hudson Library at
   66 Leroy St New York, NY 10014.

   It is helpful, but not necessary to have a notebook computer.  
   There's WiFi in the library for your convenience.  

 Mailing List:
   We have a mailing list!  Join it here:
   http://nylug.org/mailman/listinfo/hack

   or send mail to: hack-requ...@nylug.org
   with a Subject: subscribe

   There is also an RSS feed for the workshop mailing list at:
   http://nylug.org/mlist/hack.rss

 IRC Channel:
   On Freenode, in #nylug-hack .  Stop by #nylug also.
 The Next Meeting After This Meeting:
   The following Workshop will be held on: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 at 6:00 PM
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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread Alexander Terekhov

Hyman Rosen wrote:
[...]
 Do you believe that at the conclusion of a case, one party pays
 the attorney fees of another unless a court instructs them not
 to do so? How odd.

http://reason.com/archives/1995/06/01/civil-suits

How could the middle class--not to mention the lower class--use the
courts if people who lost on a fluke had to pay their opponents' legal
fees? Wouldn't they drop even valid suits?

. . . 

Loser-pays is the standard in England, so it is sometimes known as the
English Rule. It is thus often spoken of as if it were some
Beefeaters-and-warm-beer eccentricity of the Sceptered Isle. But it has
no special connection with England. It has prevailed for millennia in
Europe, developing early in Roman law and spreading from there to the
civil law systems that evolved all over the continent and became
codified in France, Germany, and elsewhere around the time of Napoleon.
It even developed in the church courts. Scandinavia, like England, does
not trace its civil procedure to the Romans but nonetheless has
loser-pays.

regards,
alexander.

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Re: SFLC won EVERYTHING

2012-03-28 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Back in August 2011:

08/08/2011 211  OPINION AND ORDER: For the aforementioned reasons
stated above, plaintiffs' motion to hold WD in contempt of this Court's
earlier injunction against WDE pursuant to Rule 65( d) is granted.
Counsel is ordered to submit information regarding WD's ability to pay
and plaintiffs' lost profits within fifteen (15) days of the issuance of
this Opinion and Order. Plaintiffs are directed to submit a fee
application by the same date. The Clerk of the Court is directed to
close this motion (docket # 172). (Signed by Judge Shira A. Scheindlin
on 8/8/2011) (js) Modified on 8/9/2011 (jab). (Entered: 08/09/2011) 

08/08/2011 211  OPINION AND ORDER:

http://terekhov.de/211.pdf

Now in 2012:

01/05/2012 232  ORDER: The August 8, 2011 Order in this matter is
hereby vacated. The Clerk of the Court is directed to withdraw this
entry (Docket No. 211) from the docket. So Ordered (Signed by Judge
Shira A. Scheindlin on 1/5/2012) (js) (Entered: 01/06/2012)

01/05/2012 232  ORDER:

http://terekhov.de/232.pdf

Hmmm... sounds not good for GNUtards...

regards,
alexander.

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Re: NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 28 February 2012 NYLUG Charter Drafting Round Table

2012-03-28 Thread DFS

On 2/28/2012 1:55 AM, secret...@lxny.org wrote:


We meet in the basement.



bwaaa!!!  It never gets old!

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NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 13 September 2011 NYLUG Hack Workshop

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
blockquote
  what=official NYLUG Hack Workshop announcement
  other-meeting=Puppet Meeting, Wednesday 14 September 2011,
 for information see:
 http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-nyc;
  and-another-meeting=UNIGROUP Meeting, Thursday 15 September 2011,
 for information see:
 http://www.unigroup.org/unigroup-next.html;
  edits=

 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:20:01 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: [nylug-announce] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society, (Smalltalk, C++, 
Python) TOMORROW September 13 6:00PM-8:00PM

 This is a reminder for the event detailed below.

 WORKSHOP / HACKFEST
 Date: Tuesday, September 13, 2011
 Time: 6:00pm
 Duration: 2 hours
 Location: NY Public Library Hudson Park Branch, 66 Leroy St., NY NY 10014

 Topics:
   Currently, we're working on the following topics and activities:

   * TeX and LaTeX teachings; Programming Basics (hosted by David Bristow)
   * Linux for Newcomers (hosted by Robert Menes and Stefanie Schulte)
   * Hardware Hacking projects (hosted by Jonas Arnoldo)

   Bring something to discuss! There's a blackboard, chalk, and Internet
   access.  Notebook computers are helpful but not required. Bring books!
   Bring hardware! Bring software! Bring friends!
   All levels of experience from totally new to experienced welcome!

   After workshops, the coordinators go out for dinner at Out of the
   Kitchen, located at 420 Hudson Street, just down the block from the
   library. Feel free to join us for some lively dinner conversations!

 Resources:
   *  LaTeX project homepage:
   http://www.latex-project.org/

   *  Ubuntu homepage:
   http://www.ubuntu.com/

   * Hack a Day:
   http://hackaday.com/

   *  NYLUG-Talk list
  http://nylug.org/listinfo/nylug-talk/

 Map  Directions:
   http://nylug.org/hackcalendar

   We meet in the basement. Enter the library and head to the back. If the
   door is closed when you arrive you can ask the manager of the library for
   the keys to the room if you're comfortable opening up the basement, or
   you can wait for some of the others to arrive.

 Description:
   We will continue meeting on a bi-weekly basis at the Hudson Library at
   66 Leroy St New York, NY 10014.

   It is helpful, but not necessary to have a notebook computer.  
   There's WiFi in the library for your convenience.  

 Mailing List:
   We have a mailing list!  Join it here:
   http://nylug.org/mailman/listinfo/hack

   or send mail to: hack-requ...@nylug.org
   with a Subject: subscribe

   There is also an RSS feed for the workshop mailing list at:
   http://nylug.org/mlist/hack.rss

 IRC Channel:
   On Freenode, in #nylug-hack .  Stop by #nylug also.
 The Next Meeting After This Meeting:
   The following Workshop will be held on: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 at 6:00 
PM
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Re: NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 6 December 2011 NYLUG: General Meeting

2012-03-28 Thread A. van der Berigheid

secret...@lxny.org schreef in bericht
news:jbhj4c$22s$1...@panix5.panix.com...

NYLUG will meet at 6:00 pm in the
basement of the

^^



Hi Jay,
Are you the sys admin over there?
http://fandomscaresus.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/basementdweller.jpg
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Re: BusyBox and the GPL... LMAO

2012-03-28 Thread RJack

On 2/1/2012 6:45 PM, me wrote:


LMAO... A BSD replacement for BusyBox under a BSD license.

From ROB LANDLEY no less: Toybox is released under a simple 2-clause
BSD-style license.

http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Controversy-around-Busybox-alternative-1426119.html



http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/52496-busybox-replacement-project-fuels-animated-verbal-spat



http://www.landley.net/toybox/about.html

Sincerely, RJack :)


From Rob Landley:

December 16, 2011...

The FSF is its own worst enemy, and it has comprehensively fragmented
and FUDded its greatest achievement. The graph in the above article
estimates that GPL usage in open source software will fall below 50%
next year, and anybody familiar with network effects can expect it to
retreat to a niche pretty quickly after that.

The silver lining in all this is it reduces the FSF to complete
irrelevance, allowing the open source developers to get on with their
work without distraction from religious zealots.
http://landley.net/notes-2011.html#16-12-2011

Sincerely,
RJack :)





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NYC LOCAL: Wednesday 7 December 2011 NYCBUG: Holiday Gathering and Early Winter Rants

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
blockquote
  what=official NYC*BUG announcement
  further-rants=On Tuesday 13 December 2011 Lisp NYC and NYLUG
 will meet in the Back Room of Suspenders, near
 Liberty Park on the Island of the Manahattoes.
  edits=

 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 22:30:10 -0500
 To: annou...@lists.nycbug.org
 From: NYC*BUG Announcements annou...@lists.nycbug.org
 Subject: [announce] NYC*BUG Holiday Meeting
 Reply-To: annou...@lists.nycbug.org

 We are looking forward to beginning the 9th year of NYC*BUG with our 
 next holiday meeting.

 The meeting is sure to be entertaining, with several short but technical 
 talks lined up.

 Also note that we now have a web page dedicated to our cabinet:

 http://www.nycbug.org/index.php?NAV=Colo

 We are aiming to get some mirrors up in the near future.  We'll keep 
 everyone posted.

 *  *   *   *

 December 7, 2011
 NYC*BUG Holiday Meeting

 6:45 PM, Suspenders Restaurant backroom
 111 Broadway in Manhattan

 This year will feature a few technical and fun topics.

 Ike Levy on A Footnote on Inappropriate Cloud Use Don`t believe the 
 hype... - Public Enemy

 Adam David Alan Martin on Alcohol and the Art of Development

 Boris Kochergin on Bastard Users from Hell: Tales of Sysadmin Perseverance

 Come celebrate the holiday season and the beginning of the ninth year of 
 NYC*BUG.

 We are open to additional light, fun yet technical talks.

 *  *   *

 The January 2012 meeting will feature Matthew Story on AWK.

 For February, we will return to the short presentation format on BSD 
 Networking topics.  Let us know if you're interested in presenting.  New 
 speakers are strongly encouraged to take the leap.  Feel free to ping 
 admin@ for guidance if needed.  Take a look at the past topics on the 
 left side bar of the site to get an idea of potential topics.
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SFLC won a motion

2012-03-28 Thread Alexander Terekhov
http://terekhov.de/211.pdf

Because WD has not met its burden of demonstrating that its use of
the BusyBox software would not affect the value of plaintiffs' 
copyright...

What the FUCK Judge SCHEINDLIN is talking about regarding affect the 
value of plaintiffs' copyright...?

Hey dak and Hyman, any ideas? (%^$%*^%#$@@#(PO(*_)^%

regards,
alexander.

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Stuttgar 21 again

2012-03-28 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote:

 Alan Mackenzie wrote:
 [...]

 Hey Alan, on a side note, do you recall our controversy regarding
 Stuttgart 21?

Yes, though the controversy is hardly our property - it belongs to entire
Baden Wuerttemberg.  I live in Nuremberg, not Boeblingen.

 Take this:

 http://www.thelocal.de/national/20110721-36455.html

Come on, Alex.  Give us a quick summary of what that link says.  You know
you have been known to send people on wild goose chases with the links
you've cited.

 regards,
 alexander.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

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Knowledge Base Software

2012-03-28 Thread michael moody
Our easy to us Knowledge Base Software allows you to get free user
generated content, organize data, share information and increase
search engine traffic.

Knowledge Base Software  | Knowledgebase software
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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread Alexander Terekhov
BTW...

 06/30/2011 207  NOTICE OF APPEARANCE by David Leichtman on behalf of
 ZYXEL Communications Inc. (Leichtman, David) (Entered: 06/30/2011)

in contrast to (from PACER):


05/19/2011 197  MOTION for Michael Andrew Spiegel to Withdraw as
Attorney. Document filed by Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc..(Spiegel,
Michael) (Entered: 05/19/2011) 
06/10/2011 202  MOTION for Mishi Choudhary to Withdraw as Attorney.
Document filed by Erik Andersen, Software Freedom Conservancy,
Inc..(Ravicher, Daniel) (Entered: 06/10/2011) 
06/20/2011 205  MOTION for Aaron Kyle Williamson to Withdraw as
Attorney. Document filed by Erik Andersen, Software Freedom Conservancy,
Inc..(Ravicher, Daniel) (Entered: 06/20/2011) 

chuckles

regards,
alexander.

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NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 8 November 2011 Lisp NYC: Scott Ostler on Building Dump.fm Using Clojure

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
blockquote
  what=official Lisp NYC announcement
  what-is-dump.fm=http://dump.fm;
  info=http://clojure.org/;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clojure
[page was last modified on 29 October 2011 at 12:16]
http://java.ociweb.com/mark/clojure/article.html#Concurrency;
  edits=one blank line removed

 Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:08:51 -0400
 From: Heow Goodman li...@alphageeksinc.com
 To: l...@lispnyc.org, lisp-annou...@lispnyc.org
 Subject: [Lisp-announce] Lisp Meeting, Tue Nov 8th at Google

 Join us Tuesday, November 8th, 7:00 at Google

  RSVP for Google: http://lispnyc.org/meeting/rsvp
   http://www.meetup.com/LispNYC/

 Scott Ostler on Dump.fm

 dump.fm is a live image chatroom for visual conversations, written in
 Clojure by Scott Ostler and Tim Baker. Since its start in late 2009,
 it's become a home for internet artists and their work. It was presented
 at the NYTM, used as a live image feed for concerts, and showcased by
 dump irl, an exhibit of art pieces made by dump users.

 Scott will give an experience report of building and running a web site
 with Clojure. Topics will include what worked and what didn't, Clojure
 as a prototyping language, growing a community on custom software, and
 keeping a side project healthy.

 Bring your favorite gifs!

 Location:
   Google, 9th Ave Entrance
   76 Ninth Ave
   on the 4th floor in the Baker Field room

 Google RSVP:
   http://lispnyc.org/meeting/rsvp
   http://www.meetup.com/LispNYC/
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Re: SECURITY ALERT - SECURITY ALERT

2012-03-28 Thread Lt Cmdr. Gaston J. Feeblebunny
Mark S Bilk m...@cosmicpenguin.com schreef in bericht 
news:4b4a872e-9430-42a7-913d-f725d34e1...@l19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...

Microsoft Attacks Linux Organization In New York

Both Foster and A. van der Berigheid are identities
created by the Microsoft Corporation for the purpose of
attacking Linux and its users in Usenet.  This has been
going on for many years:

http://XXX.com/linux/MICROSOFTS_WAR_AGAINST_LINUX.html


Mark S Bilk tries to steal your private data from your PC or infest Android 
devices and older Windows machines,

*please avoid the urls* on his website!!!
His website is reported for further investigation to the FBI: 
http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx


On Dec 5, 4:40 pm, Foster frankfoste...@yahoo.com wrote:

On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 23:03:03 +0100, A. van der Berigheid wrote:
 secret...@lxny.org schreef in bericht
news:jbhj4c$22s$1...@panix5.panix.com...
 NYLUG will meet at 6:00 pm in the
 basement of the
 ^^

 Hi Jay,
 Are you the sys admin over there?
http://fandomscaresus.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/basementdweller.jpg

You're giving those oddballs too much credit.
I'll bet the library has them hide in the basement
so they don't stink up the main room and scare the
more socially and hygienically normal patrons away.
--
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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread Hyman Rosen

On 6/17/2011 10:39 AM, Alexander Terekhov wrote:

   |N| /^^^\ |N|
  _|D|_  (| o |)  _|D|_
_| |E| | _(_---_)_ | |E| |_


An inchoate rage-filled response is also different from a
statement by a party to a suit.
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Re: NYC LOCAL: First Bitcoin Conference, New York City, 19-21 August 2011

2012-03-28 Thread David H. Lipman
From: secret...@lxny.org

 The First Bitcoin Conference will take place in New York City starting on
 Friday 19 August 2011 and will run through Sunday 21 August 2011:


I hope they discuss BitCoin data miners.  I am seeing numerous instances of 
BitCoin data 
miner trojans.



-- 
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Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp 


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NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 6 March 2012 UNIGROUP: Sun Solaris Kernel Engineers on Zones/Mgmt

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
blockquote
  what=official UNIGROUP announcement
  assurance=there will be giveaways and food
  rsvp=registration requested, see below
  entrance-fee=yes, see http://www.unigroup.org/unigroup-fees.html;
  location=The Cooper Union School of Engineering, see below
  info=http://www.unigroup.org;
  edits=some paragraphs removed so notice fits in mailboxen

 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 18:32:54 -0500 (EST)
 From: Unigroup_of_NY unil...@unigroup.org
 Subject: Reminder: UNIGROUP 06-MAR-2012 (SPECIAL 1st TUESDAY): Sun Solaris 
Kernel Engineers on Zones/Mgmt

 **Unigroup is holding a SPECIAL 1st TUESDAY meeting TOMORROW...
 Please RSVP if you will be attending, and have not done so already.

 [contains new info below]

 ==
 UNIGROUP OF NEW YORK - UNIX USERS GROUP - MARCH 2012 ANNOUNCEMENTS
 ==


 1. UNIGROUP'S MARCH 2012 MEETING NOTICE


   When:  TUESDAY, March 6th, 2012(*** SPECIAL 1st TUESDAY ***)

  Where:  The Cooper Union  http://www.cooper.edu
  School of Engineering  (*** New Building ***)
  41 Cooper Square  (3rd Avenue @ 7th St, between 6th  7th Streets)
  East Village, Manhattan
  New York City
  Meeting Room: 806_CS (8th Floor)
  ** Please RSVP **(Note: Room Changes Month-to-Month)

   Time:  6:15 PM - 6:30 PM  Registration
  6:30 PM - 6:45 PM  Ask the Wizard, Questions,
 Answers and Current Events
  6:45 PM - 7:00 PM  Unigroup Business and Announcements
  7:00 PM - 9:30 PM  Main Presentation

   Cost:  See the Meeting+Membership Fee Schedule Below.

  ---
  Topic:  Oracle/Sun Solaris Kernel Engineers Meeting
  on Solaris Zones and Systems Management
  ---

   Speakers:  Panel of Sun Solaris Kernel Engineers,
  Oracle/Sun

---

INTRODUCTION:
-

The Unigroup March 2012 General Meeting is being held a week
earlier than normal, to take advantage of a group of Oracle/Sun
Solaris Kernel Engineers, who are in town only for next week.

To avoid NYLUG's new 2nd Thursday meeting date (and to avoid a
holiday also next week), we set this meeting up for TUESDAY.
Please reserve the special date: TOMORROW/TUESDAY.

Unigroup's January 2012 meeting was our Sun Solaris 11 Launch
Event, so this month's meeting is a perfect followup to that
meeting.  Unigroup has been addressed by various Sun Kernel
Engineers over the years, and those meeting have been great
and must-attends!  Remember to bring your Solaris and Solaris 11
questions to the meeting!

We hope you can make it for our special Solaris Zones meeting.

---

SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS:
-

To REGISTER for this event, please RSVP by using the Unigroup
Registration Page:
  http://www.unigroup.org/unigroup-rsvp.html

This will allow us to automate the registration process.
(Registration will also add you to our mailing list.)
Please avoid Emailed RSVPs.

Please continue to check the Unigroup web site and meeting page,
for any last minute updates concerning this meeting.  If you
registered for this meeting, please check your Email for any last
minute announcements as the meeting approaches.  Also make sure
any anti-spam white-lists are updated to _ALLOW_ Unigroup traffic!
If you block Unigroup Emails, your address will be dropped from
our mailing list.

Also, if you have an interest in Unigroup, be sure to receive
Unigroup information DIRECTLY from Unigroup, via direct receipt
of Emails and by visiting the Unigroup Web Site.  NO OTHER SOURCE
provides timely, accurate and complete Unigroup information.

Please RSVP as soon as possible, preferably at least 2-3 days
prior to the meeting date, so we can plan the food order.
RSVP deadline is usually the night before the meeting day.

Note: RSVP is requested for this location to make sure the guard
  will let you into the building.  RSVP also helps us to
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Re: Blowhard Bradley Kuhn and his fraud

2012-03-28 Thread RJack

On 6/17/2011 8:55 AM, Hyman Rosen wrote:

On 6/17/2011 8:47 AM, Alexander Terekhov wrote:

The contradiction would be if the court would order not to pay
attorney's fees.


Do you believe that at the conclusion of a case, one party pays the
attorney fees of another unless a court instructs them not to do so?
How odd.


How else do you believe a badly losing plaintiff gets a winning
defendant to agree to a stipulated Rule 41 voluntary dismissal WITH
PREDJUDICE?

Sincerely,
RJack :)
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NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 21 February 2012 NYLUG Charter Drafting Round Table

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
blockquote
  what=official NYLUG announcement
  edits=

 From: Sunny Dubey su...@audiowiki.org
 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:34:25 -0500
 Message-ID: 
CAEZZuic2aP83HOLafwvvunYdd=kw7-mb2bfv+3mgt-inuqu...@mail.gmail.com
 To: NYLUG Announce nylug-annou...@nylug.org, NYLUG nylug-t...@nylug.org
 Subject: [nylug-talk] NYLUG Charter Drafting Round Table - Tomorrow! 
6:00PM-8:00PM
 Reply-To: NYLUG Technical Discussion nylug-t...@nylug.org

 Date: Tuesday, February 21th
 Time: 6:00pm
 Duration: 2 hours
 Location: NY Public Library Hudson Park Branch, 66 Leroy St, NY NY 10014
 Room: Downstairs

 NYLUG needs to draft and define a charter. This charter will give
 NYLUG the ability to operate and provide official membership to its
 members.

 The charter in its current form is here:

 http://spinoza.opsrealist.info/charter/index.php/Charter

 The discussion about the charter is here:

 http://spinoza.opsrealist.info/charter/index.php/Talk:Charter

 All are invited to participate. NYLUG is nothing without you.

 We can also continue talks at the Village Tavern nearby after the
 library closes:

 http://villagetavernnyc.com/
 46 Bedford Street  New York, NY 10014

 Map  Directions:
 http://nylug.org/hackcalendar

 It is helpful, but not necessary to have a notebook computer.
 There's WiFi in the library for your convenience.

 Sunny Dubey

 NYLUG Officer
 _
 Participate in drafting NYLUG's charter: 
http://spinoza.opsrealist.info/charter/
 The nylug-talk mailing list is at nylug-t...@nylug.org
 The list archive is at http://nylug.org/pipermail/nylug-talk
 To subscribe or unsubscribe: http://nylug.org/mailman/listinfo/nylug-talk
  
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Re: NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 21 June 2011 NYLUG Hack Workshop

2012-03-28 Thread flatfish+++
On 20 Jun 2011 11:21:43 -0400, secret...@lxny.org wrote:

 blockquote
   what=official NYLUG Hack Workshop announcement
   edits=
 
  From: NYLUG Announcements i...@nylug.org
  To: NYLUG Announcements nylug-annou...@nylug.org
  Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:20:01 -0400 (EDT)
  Subject: [nylug-announce] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society, (Smalltalk, C++, 
 Python) TOMORROW June 21 6:00PM-8:00PM
  Reply-To: Announcements from NYLUG nylug-annou...@nylug.org

  Map  Directions:
http://nylug.org/hackcalendar
 
We meet in the basement. Enter the library and head to the back. If the
door is closed when you arrive you can ask the manager of the library for
the keys to the room if you're comfortable opening up the basement, or
you can wait for some of the others to arrive.

Meet in the basement?

How appropriate for freetards.

Well I suppose it will at least make some of them feel more comfortable
in a social setting.


-- 
flatfish+++
Please visit our hall of Linux idiots.
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

Watching Linux Fail:
http://limuxwatch.blogspot.com/

Linux's dismal desktop market share:

http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/05/12/the-top-20-strongholds-for-desktop-linux/
 
Desktop Linux: The Dream Is Dead
By the time Microsoft released the Windows 7 beta 
in January 2009, Linux had clearly lost its chance at desktop glory.
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/207999/desktop_linux_the_dream_is_dead.html
 

Desktop Linux on Life Support:

http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/is-linux-on-the-desktop-dead--961508
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Re: FSF associate membership

2012-03-28 Thread Alexander Terekhov

Ivan Shmakov wrote:
 
  marsup  arasu@gmail.com writes:
  On Jul 21, 6:53 pm, Ivan Shmakov i...@gray.siamics.net wrote:
 
 […]
 
   -- FSF associate member #7257
 
   By the way what is all about FSF membership number?  I am curious to
   know for learning and contributing to FSF.
 
 This should be more on-topic for gnu.misc.discuss, so I'm
 cross-posting and setting Followup-To: there.  (Beware of the
 troll there, though; for some newsgroups, killfiles are a must.)
 
 The idea is to provide funding for the FSF (and thus, partly,
 for the GNU project.)  The “basic” associate membership is $120
 per year (or half that price for currently enrolled students.)
 
 To join, one can use the form at:
 
 https://my.fsf.org/associate/support_freedom/join_fsf
 
 To join and ask FSF to thank me for that:
 
 https://my.fsf.org/associate/support_freedom/join_fsf?referrer=7257
 
 --
 FSF associate member #7257

What percentage of collected funds is spend on writing code for the GNU
project and not on fat salaries to the FSF crooks not writing any code
for the GNU project?

regards,
alexander.

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be infinitely looped as GNGNGNGNG...NGNGNG... and can be said backwards 
too, whereas GNU cannot.)
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NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 12 July 2011 Lisp NYC Eating and Drinking

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
blockquote
  what=official Lisp NYC announcement
  note=change in where official announcements are posted; see below
  edits=

 From: Brian Gruber lispnyc@brian.iheardata.com
 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 10:38:13 -0400
 To: l...@lispnyc.org, lisp-annou...@lispnyc.org
 Subject: [Lisp] Next week: Social Hour(s) at PG's

 Hello Lispers,

 Join us next Tuesday, July 12 starting at 7pm for drinks and lispy
 discussion. We'll be meeting at PG's at 380 Columbus Ave (at 78th
 Street). Hope to see you there!

 Also, please note that following this meeting, we will be posting all
 announcements to the new lisp-announce mailing list and not to the
 l...@lispnyc.org discussion list. Please subscribe to the announcement
 list at http://www.lispnyc.org:8080/mailman/listinfo/lisp-announce or
 by sending email to lisp-announce-subscr...@lispnyc.org.

 /brian
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NYC LOCAL: Tuesday 27 September 2011 NYLUG Hack Workshop

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
blockquote
  what=official NYLUG Hack Workshop announcement
  edits=

 From: NYLUG Announcements i...@nylug.org
 To: NYLUG Announcements nylug-annou...@nylug.org
 Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 09:20:02 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: [nylug-announce] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society, (Smalltalk, C++, 
Python) TOMORROW September 27 6:00PM-8:00PM
 Reply-To: Announcements from NYLUG nylug-annou...@nylug.org

 This is a reminder for the event detailed below.

 WORKSHOP / HACKFEST
 Date: Tuesday, September 27, 2011
 Time: 6:00pm
 Duration: 2 hours
 Location: NY Public Library Hudson Park Branch, 66 Leroy St., NY NY 10014

 Topics:
   Currently, we're working on the following topics and activities:

   * TeX and LaTeX teachings; Programming Basics (hosted by David Bristow)
   * Linux for Newcomers (hosted by Robert Menes and Stefanie Schulte)
   * Hardware Hacking projects (hosted by Jonas Arnoldo)

   Bring something to discuss! There's a blackboard, chalk, and Internet
   access.  Notebook computers are helpful but not required. Bring books!
   Bring hardware! Bring software! Bring friends!
   All levels of experience from totally new to experienced welcome!

   After workshops, the coordinators go out for dinner at Out of the
   Kitchen, located at 420 Hudson Street, just down the block from the
   library. Feel free to join us for some lively dinner conversations!

 Resources:
   *  LaTeX project homepage:
   http://www.latex-project.org/

   *  Ubuntu homepage:
   http://www.ubuntu.com/

   * Hack a Day:
   http://hackaday.com/

   *  NYLUG-Talk list
  http://nylug.org/listinfo/nylug-talk/

 Map  Directions:
   http://nylug.org/hackcalendar

   We meet in the basement. Enter the library and head to the back. If the
   door is closed when you arrive you can ask the manager of the library for
   the keys to the room if you're comfortable opening up the basement, or
   you can wait for some of the others to arrive.

 Description:
   We will continue meeting on a bi-weekly basis at the Hudson Library at
   66 Leroy St New York, NY 10014.

   It is helpful, but not necessary to have a notebook computer.  
   There's WiFi in the library for your convenience.  

 Mailing List:
   We have a mailing list!  Join it here:
   http://nylug.org/mailman/listinfo/hack

   or send mail to: hack-requ...@nylug.org
   with a Subject: subscribe

   There is also an RSS feed for the workshop mailing list at:
   http://nylug.org/mlist/hack.rss

 IRC Channel:
   On Freenode, in #nylug-hack .  Stop by #nylug also.
 The Next Meeting After This Meeting:
   The following Workshop will be held on: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 at 6:00 PM
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Re: NYC LOCAL: Wednesday 18 January 2012: Rally for Freedom of the Net, Official Name: Rally for the Future of Tech

2012-03-28 Thread Hyman Rosen

On 1/17/2012 9:09 AM, JohnF wrote:

That is, rather than just ranting about it, propose an
acceptable alternative.


Thank you for your concern, but in fact it is not necessary to propose
an alternative law when protesting a proposed law which is both harmful
and useless for its claimed purpose.
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Re: Framework Licensing Questions

2012-03-28 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Tim tim-proje...@sentinelchicken.org wrote:

 Hello,

 I have a moderately complex licensing scenario that I was hoping
 someone could help me navigate.  Here is what I *want* to do, though
 it may not work:

 A. Build a framework which is licensed under the LGPLv3

 B. Write wrapper plugins for the framework which link various
   third-party libraries having multiple different open source
   licenses, including CPL, IBM Public, old BSD, and GPL v2/v3

 C. Write proprietary, closed-source plugins for the framework which
   are sold to help support development of the framework


 The most likely distribution model for each component, is that the
 framework and wrapper plugins would be distributed by me in one
 package; the third-party libraries would be distributed by Linux
 distributions in a standard way; and the proprietary plugins would be
 distributed in a separate package by me.  However, it may make sense
 to distribute all components together as a VM or something similar to
 make deployment easier.

 My questions are:

The obvious answer is you need to consult a specialist lawyer; nobody in
this mailing list is known to be such.  However...

 1. Which of the above scenarios could cause licensing problems?
   1.A. Does the use of a GPLv2 or GPLv3 third-party library create a
condition where the framework itself must be considered
GPLed such that the proprietary modules or other third-party
libraries are then incompatible?

Must be considered doesn't exist in this area.  You license your
software as you see fit, and whatever license you choose will place
restrictions on what it can be combined with.  It sounds like you want to
create a non-GPL derived work of GPL'd works.  Doing this is clearly
contrary to the aims of free software, and you can be certain that the
authors of the GPL took your strategy into account when formulating it.

   1.B. Does the method of distribution of each components make a
difference?  If I strictly distribute each component
separately (or rely on OS distributions to distribute the
third-party libraries) does this help me avoid some issues?

Unlikely to make a difference.  Does a pair of shoes cease to be a pair
if you pack it in two separate boxes?  (A pair of trousers would,
though.  :-)

 2. The plugins I write for my framework would be adhering to a
   published API that is part of the framework.  Does this help me
   satisfy any System Library clauses or something similar to avoid
   license conflicts?

If your library is a legitimately licensed bona fide system library, then
there won't be a problem.  If, on the other hand, it's a
subterfuge to assist in the violation of the GPL, it won't work.

 Any other issues I should consider?  I just want to make sure I
 understand the implications of this approach and what restrictions I
 might be under if I try to push this as an open source development
 model.

What you're proposing isn't an open source development model.  It's a
closed source one where you intend to subvert the GPL for your purposes.
You're not the first person to dream up schemes like this, not by a long
way.  So far, none of them have come to anything.  That might be a guide
to the answers to your questions.

Why don't you just avoid GPL'd works altogether?  There's plenty of
imprisonable software available with licenses like the BSDs.  Or,
alternatively, write the missing bits yourself.

 Thank you,
 tim

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Re: Hi!

2012-03-28 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Jose E. Marchesi jema...@gnu.org wrote:
 
 Hi gnudists!
 Just subscribed :D

Hi to you, too!  I'm afraid there's not much going on here at the moment,
but you're welcome nevertheless.

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NYC LOCAL: Thursday 12 January 2012 UNIGROUP: Isaac Rozenfeld on Oracle Sun Solaris 11 Release

2012-03-28 Thread secretary
blockquote
  what=official UNIGROUP announcement
  assurance=there will be giveaways and food
  rsvp=registration requested, see below
  entrance-fee=yes, see http://www.unigroup.org/unigroup-fees.html;
  location=The Cooper Union School of Engineering, see below
  info=http://www.unigroup.org;
  edits=some paragraphs removed so notice fits in mailboxen

 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 08:18:49 -0500 (EST)
 From: Unigroup_of_NY unil...@unigroup.org
 Subject: UNIGROUP 12-JAN-2012 (2nd Thu): Solaris 11 Release Meeting

 Unigroup is next week (Special 2nd Thursday)...
 Please RSVP if you will be attending...

 
 UNIGROUP OF NEW YORK - UNIX USERS GROUP - JANUARY 2012 ANNOUNCEMENTS
 

--
 1. UNIGROUP'S JANUARY 2012 MEETING NOTICE
--

   When:  THURSDAY, January 12th, 2011(*** SPECIAL 2nd Thursday ***)

  Where:  The Cooper Union  http://www.cooper.edu
  School of Engineering  (*** New Building ***)
  41 Cooper Square  (3rd Avenue @ 7th St, between 6th  7th Streets)
  East Village, Manhattan
  New York City
  Meeting Room: LL101_CS   (LL=Lower Level)
  ** Please RSVP **(Note: Room Changes Month-to-Month)

   Time:  6:15 PM - 6:30 PM  Registration
  6:30 PM - 6:45 PM  Ask the Wizard, Questions,
 Answers and Current Events
  6:45 PM - 7:00 PM  Unigroup Business and Announcements
  7:00 PM - 9:30 PM  Main Presentation

   Cost:  See the Meeting+Membership Fee Schedule Below.

  -
  Topic:  Oracle/Sun Solaris 11 Release Meeting
  -

   Speakers:  Isaac Rozenfeld,
  Oracle

---

INTRODUCTION:
-

Unigroup is pleased to announce our January 2012 meeting on
Oracle/Sun Solaris 11.  Our speaker is Isaac Rozenfeld,
Unigroup's primary Oracle/Sun Solaris contact.  Oracle
recently held the NYC Solaris 11 launch event back in
November 2011, and it was well attended.  This month's
Unigroup meeting will be a great opportunity to learn about
the new features found in this new Solaris Unix release.

Note: We are still awaiting further topic details and meeting
room confirmation, so stay tuned for updates.  Also note we
are planning to meet on the 2nd Thursday, 1 week earlier than
usual, due to scheduling issues at our meeting location.

Unigroup Elections: Unigroup holds Board of Director Elections
every January.  If you are a Unigroup Member and would like to
run for the Unigroup Board, please contact us on or before our
January 2012 meeting.  Board members are expected to regularly
attend Unigroup General and Board Meetings, and basically help
the rest of the board run Unigroup.  If you would like to help
out Unigroup, but not join the board officially, please let us
know.  Unigroup needs your help!  Unigroup is a not-for-profit
volunteer organization, and has been serving the Greater NYC
Metro Unix Users Community for 30 years!

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This will allow us to automate the registration process.
(Registration will also add you to our mailing list.)
Please avoid Emailed RSVPs.

Please continue to check the Unigroup web site and meeting page,
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If you block Unigroup Emails, your address will be dropped from
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Also, if you have an interest in Unigroup, be sure to receive
Unigroup information DIRECTLY from Unigroup, via direct receipt
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Re: FSF associate membership

2012-03-28 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote:

 Ivan Shmakov wrote:

  marsup  arasu@gmail.com writes:
  On Jul 21, 6:53 pm, Ivan Shmakov i...@gray.siamics.net wrote:

 [???]

   -- FSF associate member #7257

   By the way what is all about FSF membership number?  I am curious to
   know for learning and contributing to FSF.

 This should be more on-topic for gnu.misc.discuss, so I'm
 cross-posting and setting Followup-To: there.  (Beware of the
 troll there, though; for some newsgroups, killfiles are a must.)

You've just met one of these trolls.  (There are more than one.)

 The idea is to provide funding for the FSF (and thus, partly,
 for the GNU project.)  The ???basic??? associate membership is $120
 per year (or half that price for currently enrolled students.)

 To join, one can use the form at:

 https://my.fsf.org/associate/support_freedom/join_fsf

 To join and ask FSF to thank me for that:

 https://my.fsf.org/associate/support_freedom/join_fsf?referrer=7257

 --
 FSF associate member #7257

 What percentage of collected funds is spend on writing code for the GNU
 project and not on fat salaries to the FSF crooks not writing any code
 for the GNU project?

A lot of the funds will be spent on maintaining GNU infrastructure -
premises, servers, and bandwidth all have to be paid for.  And yes, fat
salaries will be paid to FSF crooks, such as sys-admins,
administrative staff, and so on.  Few, if any, of these FSF crooks will
be writing code for a GNU project.

 regards,
 alexander.

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Re: Hi!

2012-03-28 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
Hi gnudists!
Just subscribed :D

   Hi to you, too!  I'm afraid there's not much going on here at the moment,
   but you're welcome nevertheless.

FYI, the news to mail gateway was down for some considerable time.
The admins just got it back up today; hence the unslaught of mail.

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