Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread David Cousens
Wm, I admit freely I do not have a clear understanding of how the reports (and much else inside GnuCash) do work in detail and I doubt if I am alone in that apart from maybe the core development team. GnuCash for whatever historical reasons is only sparsely documented which increases the

Re: [GNC-dev] Building 3.4 on Mint 18.3

2019-02-24 Thread Geert Janssens
Ok, good luck! Geert Op zondag 24 februari 2019 23:55:01 CET schreef Jacob Larsen: > Hi Geert > > I'm starting a backup now to prepare for upgrade, I don't think I will > do more in this direction. I tried this in both Ubuntu Mate 18.04 and > Mint 19.1 in VMs, and both looked fine. So just

Re: [GNC-dev] Building 3.4 on Mint 18.3

2019-02-24 Thread Jacob Larsen
Hi Geert I'm starting a backup now to prepare for upgrade, I don't think I will do more in this direction. I tried this in both Ubuntu Mate 18.04 and Mint 19.1 in VMs, and both looked fine. So just backing up and running a long overdue upgrade instead. I'm pretty sure Mate runs on X11

Re: [GNC-dev] Building 3.4 on Mint 18.3

2019-02-24 Thread Geert Janssens
Hi Jacob, I don't think the missing gwengui-gtk3 package is related. We anticipated it would not be available on several distros by the time gnucash 3 would be released. So if that package is not found, gnucash will be built with an internal copy of this package. So regardless of whether your

Re: [GNC-dev] Building 3.4 on Mint 18.3

2019-02-24 Thread Jacob Larsen
Hi Geert This is Mint on the Mate desktop. I found this from the configure log that seems related: "No package 'gwengui-gtk3' found" This package is not available in the Ubuntu 16.04 base, but was introduced in 18.04. If this package is critical to GnuCash then it seems the configure script

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 16:51, Geert Janssens wrote: Op zondag 24 februari 2019 12:54:35 CET schreef Wm via gnucash-devel: On 24/02/2019 02:25, David Cousens wrote: Wm, David, I appreciate your efforts as peacemaker, don't give up on all of us yet, most of us are trying to be good, promise :) If you

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Geert Janssens
Op zondag 24 februari 2019 19:36:37 CET schreef Wm via gnucash-devel: > On 24/02/2019 17:08, Geert Janssens wrote: > > You do like misinterpreting other peoples words to your benefit... > > Only if necessary. I have never seen you like this before. > > > I never said it was a requirement to get

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 17:08, Geert Janssens wrote: You do like misinterpreting other peoples words to your benefit... Only if necessary. I have never seen you like this before. I never said it was a requirement to get gnc implemented on Windows. I said gnucash chose to better integrate with each

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Geert Janssens
Op zondag 24 februari 2019 16:23:24 CET schreef Wm via gnucash-devel: > On 24/02/2019 01:06, David Carlson wrote: > > No, it is the name calling and digression from real subject matter. > > I had to do the name calling because no-one was paying attention. The more name calling you do the less

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Geert Janssens
Op zondag 24 februari 2019 17:19:09 CET schreef Wm via gnucash-devel: > On 24/02/2019 03:12, David Cousens wrote: > > Wm > > > > You could have a startup script which copied a common user config file for > > GnuCash from a backup or other central location to each users home > > directory and then

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Geert Janssens
Op zondag 24 februari 2019 14:50:27 CET schreef Wm via gnucash-devel: > On 24/02/2019 08:44, Geert Janssens wrote: > > Completely agree in today's context. There have been reasons in the past > > it > > was done as it is. If someone has spare time and epxerience I gladly > > accept > > patches to

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Geert Janssens
Op zondag 24 februari 2019 12:54:35 CET schreef Wm via gnucash-devel: > On 24/02/2019 02:25, David Cousens wrote: > > Wm, > > David, I appreciate your efforts as peacemaker, don't give up on all of > us yet, most of us are trying to be good, promise :) > > > If you draw a diagram from the

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 03:12, David Cousens wrote: Wm You could have a startup script which copied a common user config file for GnuCash from a backup or other central location to each users home directory and then copied it back on exit. On Linux the files would be those in the directories:

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Colin Law
On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 at 15:21, Wm via gnucash-devel wrote: > > That is the point, dear, you may not have said a swearword but what you > are supporting is shameful. Please don't call me dear. That is almost as bad as labelling me a Trump supporter. I don't understand what it is you think I am

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 01:06, David Carlson wrote: No, it is the name calling and digression from real subject matter. I had to do the name calling because no-one was paying attention. I'd prefer it if I was listened to the first time, promise. -- Wm ___

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 09:19, Colin Law wrote: On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 at 23:28, Wm via gnucash-devel wrote: ... You, Colin Law, seem to be the sort of person that votes for Trump because you aren't bothered if a black women gets shot. I fail to see what I have done to be so vilely abused as to be

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 08:44, Geert Janssens wrote: Yes, unfortunately this isn't very user friendly. I'm sure it can be improved. Again it requires someone with time available and coding experience to implement it. Not really, 2. was better than 3. in this regard; let's just go back is my

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 08:44, Geert Janssens wrote: Completely agree in today's context. There have been reasons in the past it was done as it is. If someone has spare time and epxerience I gladly accept patches to fix this technical debt. There was nothing to fix in this regard in gnc 2.x gnc 3.x

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 10:45, David T. via gnucash-devel wrote: Adrien, Using configuration files as a mechanism for working around the significant shortcomings of the reports ecosystem in Gnucash is tortured logic, at best. To be clear, I understand the challenges facing the team-- as well as accept

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 09:11, Geert Janssens wrote: Op zondag 24 februari 2019 05:05:21 CET schreef David Cousens: Adrien, You beat me to it. I was about to also suggest making it a user preference to be able to store the report configurations either with the book or as a user location. Then the user

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 04:05, David Cousens wrote: Adrien, You beat me to it. I was about to also suggest making it a user preference to be able to store the report configurations either with the book or as a user location. Then the user could choose what suits their circumstances and configuration.

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 03:44, Adrien Monteleone wrote: One might want the same configuration in many respects and the same options on various reports to be ’saved’ (since there is no other way to accomplish this task) as user configured defaults to be useful across various books. Some people have

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 02:53, David T. via gnucash-devel wrote: While I take exception to Wm's tone and language, I agree with his overall assessment of the reports and configuration management. I am happy to apologize to you if someone eventually takes notice. I will do this by paying for a meal

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 02:25, David Cousens wrote: Wm, David, I appreciate your efforts as peacemaker, don't give up on all of us yet, most of us are trying to be good, promise :) If you draw a diagram from the information in the wiki page https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations where

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread David T. via gnucash-devel
Adrien, Using configuration files as a mechanism for working around the significant shortcomings of the reports ecosystem in Gnucash is tortured logic, at best. To be clear, I understand the challenges facing the team-- as well as accept that I am unable to effect change in these areas. 

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Colin Law
On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 at 23:28, Wm via gnucash-devel wrote: > ... > You, Colin Law, seem to be the sort of person that votes for Trump > because you aren't bothered if a black women gets shot. I fail to see what I have done to be so vilely abused as to be accused of being a Trump supporter or

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Geert Janssens
Op zondag 24 februari 2019 05:05:21 CET schreef David Cousens: > Adrien, > > You beat me to it. I was about to also suggest making it a user preference > to be able to store the report configurations either with the book or as a > user location. Then the user could choose what suits their

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Geert Janssens
Op zondag 24 februari 2019 03:53:52 CET schreef David T. via gnucash-devel: > While I take exception to Wm's tone and language, I agree with his overall > assessment of the reports and configuration management. > > > Storing configuration data separately from the financial data and on a user >

Re: [GNC-dev] Building 3.4 on Mint 18.3

2019-02-24 Thread David Cousens
Jacob, I build GC 3.4 on Linux Mint Tara (19) and don't see any problems with the summary bar or status bar if I open or close them. There were a few slight visible differences moving from gtk-2 to gtk-3 as Geert mentioned. It may also be worth looking at the dependencies for the gtk3 library and