Re: [GNC] Upgrade to 4.14

[Adrien Monteleone]

That's good to know Stan.

That would be some good info for the FAQ on upgrading if you have the 
time to add it.


If not, maybe someone else here can.

Regards,
Adrien

On 8/6/23 11:33 AM, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) wrote:

On 2023-08-04 17:05, Stan Brown (using GC 2.6.21/3.11/4.14) wrote:

The main point of this is a possible solution to a problem someone else
reported a few days ago. [Namely, upgrading to 4.14 from 3.x, then running 4.14 
and having GC not

open the last-used book. I'm in Windows 10 and Windows 11.]

The solution I described on 4 August -- opening 4.14 for the first time,
getting the "you might like help setting up" message, closing 4.14 and
then reopening it -- worked on my virtual machine.

When I moved files to my real PCs( desktop and laptop), I exported
%APPDATA%\GnuCash and HKCU\Software\GSettings from the virtual machine
and imported them to desktop real machine, _then_ installed 4.14.
Everything opened without a problem. I then repeated the process --
import files and Registry settings -- on my laptop, and again everything
opened properly.


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Re: [GNC] Accounting period on a per-file basis?

[Michael or Penny Novack]

To Michael's point, setting specific dates, that's not as convenient,
but maybe saving one report with two sets of options will reduce the
amount of date selection I have to do, even if it doesn't reduce it to
zero.


Perhaps lack of clarity what is meant by "saved report"

Thus for any entity, I would (at least) be running a "Statement of 
Revenues and Expenses" (the business world would call P) and a balance 
sheet quarterly). I would be SAVING these by exporting from gnucash into 
the "financial reports" folder of the organization using a file name 
incorporating the Julian date (the effective date as opposed to real 
time date when run. All that I would have SAVED of the report in gnucash 
would be the display preferences, accounts excluded if any, etc.. I 
would expect to EACH TIME enter the effective dates of the run. I would 
find things like "current year", "current quarter", etc. not terribly 
useful as what those mean would depend on the real time date when the 
report was run.


Understand? Am I running the year end reports the night of Jan 31st? 
Probably not. Probably not until a few days into the next year. But 
maybe, depending on how New Years fell, I would be running before the 
end of the year (say the 31st was a Monday -- well the 30th would not be 
a "business day" and the 29th the last day for external transactions ). 
In other words, the meaning of "current year, current quarter, etc. is 
unclear. Explicit dates are clear.


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] finance Quote Not working

[David H]

Ah of course it is Michael, thanks for the correction/  I'm sitting in
front of my iMac at present so that didn't even register with me at the
time :-)

Cheers David H.


On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 at 07:41, Fross, Michael  wrote:

> As an FYI, on my windows 11 installation, the default location where
> GNUCash installs itself is:
>
> "C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash"
>
> and the full path to the CLI executable is:
>
> "C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin\gnucash-cli.exe"
>
> For command line guys like me, these paths are just crazy
>
> Michael
>
> On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 4:23 PM David H  wrote:
>
>> On windows you'll need the double quotes around the .exe path because of
>> the space in "Program Files"
>>
>> i.e.   "C:\Program Files\GnuCash\gnucash-cli.exe" -V --quotes dump
>> nseindia
>> RELIANCE
>>
>> OR
>>
>> you can also open a command prompt and change directory to C:\Program
>> Files\GnuCash end then just run the command without the full path name
>> i.e.
>> gnucash-cli.exe -V --quotes dump nseindia RELIANCE
>>
>> Cheers David H.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 at 05:36, Jim DeLaHunt  wrote:
>>
>> > Paras:
>> >
>> > On 2023-08-06 01:21, Paras Desai wrote:
>> > > ...I tried to run the command prompt, and I received the following
>> > > message.
>> > >
>> > > I run command from as an administrator,  the same message received as
>> > > below.
>> > >
>> > > gnucash-cli' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
>> > > operable program or batch file.
>> > >
>> > This message indicates a problem not with GnuCash or Perl, but of
>> > learning how to use the command prompt. The message says that Windows
>> > cannot find a file named "gnucash-cli" in the current directory. You fix
>> > the problem by using the full path and exact filename for the GnuCash
>> > command.
>> >
>> > Use File Explorer to find the directory where GnuCash is installed, and
>> > a file named something like "gnucash-cli.exe" in that directory. Note
>> > the full file path to that directory.
>> >
>> > Suppose that path is:
>> >
>> > C:\Program Files\GnuCash\gnucash-cli.exe
>> >
>> > (I don't use GnuCash on Windows, so I am not sure what the exact path
>> > and file name are.)
>> >
>> > Then in place of "gnucash-cli", use that full path and file name. For
>> > instance:
>> >
>> > C:\Program Files\GnuCash\gnucash-cli.exe -V --quotes dump nseindia
>> RELIANCE
>> >
>> > That should give you the output similar to my example. If you get the
>> > same error message as before, then there is probably something wrong in
>> > the path or the file name.
>> >
>> > Learning more about using the Windows command prompt is a separate task,
>> > and one that will probably help you for more things than just GnuCash.
>> > According to a brief web search, here are a couple of pages that explain
>> > the Windows Command Prompt:
>> >
>> > <
>> >
>> https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/a-beginners-guide-to-the-windows-command-line/
>> > >
>> > <
>> >
>> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/windows-commands
>> > >
>> >
>> > Teaching details about the Windows command prompt is out of the scope of
>> > this list. A Windows support group would be a better place to learn
>> > about it.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >   —Jim DeLaHunt
>> >
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Re: [GNC] finance Quote Not working

[Fross, Michael]

As an FYI, on my windows 11 installation, the default location where
GNUCash installs itself is:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash"

and the full path to the CLI executable is:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin\gnucash-cli.exe"

For command line guys like me, these paths are just crazy

Michael

On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 4:23 PM David H  wrote:

> On windows you'll need the double quotes around the .exe path because of
> the space in "Program Files"
>
> i.e.   "C:\Program Files\GnuCash\gnucash-cli.exe" -V --quotes dump nseindia
> RELIANCE
>
> OR
>
> you can also open a command prompt and change directory to C:\Program
> Files\GnuCash end then just run the command without the full path name i.e.
> gnucash-cli.exe -V --quotes dump nseindia RELIANCE
>
> Cheers David H.
>
>
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 at 05:36, Jim DeLaHunt  wrote:
>
> > Paras:
> >
> > On 2023-08-06 01:21, Paras Desai wrote:
> > > ...I tried to run the command prompt, and I received the following
> > > message.
> > >
> > > I run command from as an administrator,  the same message received as
> > > below.
> > >
> > > gnucash-cli' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
> > > operable program or batch file.
> > >
> > This message indicates a problem not with GnuCash or Perl, but of
> > learning how to use the command prompt. The message says that Windows
> > cannot find a file named "gnucash-cli" in the current directory. You fix
> > the problem by using the full path and exact filename for the GnuCash
> > command.
> >
> > Use File Explorer to find the directory where GnuCash is installed, and
> > a file named something like "gnucash-cli.exe" in that directory. Note
> > the full file path to that directory.
> >
> > Suppose that path is:
> >
> > C:\Program Files\GnuCash\gnucash-cli.exe
> >
> > (I don't use GnuCash on Windows, so I am not sure what the exact path
> > and file name are.)
> >
> > Then in place of "gnucash-cli", use that full path and file name. For
> > instance:
> >
> > C:\Program Files\GnuCash\gnucash-cli.exe -V --quotes dump nseindia
> RELIANCE
> >
> > That should give you the output similar to my example. If you get the
> > same error message as before, then there is probably something wrong in
> > the path or the file name.
> >
> > Learning more about using the Windows command prompt is a separate task,
> > and one that will probably help you for more things than just GnuCash.
> > According to a brief web search, here are a couple of pages that explain
> > the Windows Command Prompt:
> >
> > <
> >
> https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/a-beginners-guide-to-the-windows-command-line/
> > >
> > <
> >
> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/windows-commands
> > >
> >
> > Teaching details about the Windows command prompt is out of the scope of
> > this list. A Windows support group would be a better place to learn
> > about it.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >   —Jim DeLaHunt
> >
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Re: [GNC] finance Quote Not working

[David H]

On windows you'll need the double quotes around the .exe path because of
the space in "Program Files"

i.e.   "C:\Program Files\GnuCash\gnucash-cli.exe" -V --quotes dump nseindia
RELIANCE

OR

you can also open a command prompt and change directory to C:\Program
Files\GnuCash end then just run the command without the full path name i.e.
gnucash-cli.exe -V --quotes dump nseindia RELIANCE

Cheers David H.


On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 at 05:36, Jim DeLaHunt  wrote:

> Paras:
>
> On 2023-08-06 01:21, Paras Desai wrote:
> > ...I tried to run the command prompt, and I received the following
> > message.
> >
> > I run command from as an administrator,  the same message received as
> > below.
> >
> > gnucash-cli' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
> > operable program or batch file.
> >
> This message indicates a problem not with GnuCash or Perl, but of
> learning how to use the command prompt. The message says that Windows
> cannot find a file named "gnucash-cli" in the current directory. You fix
> the problem by using the full path and exact filename for the GnuCash
> command.
>
> Use File Explorer to find the directory where GnuCash is installed, and
> a file named something like "gnucash-cli.exe" in that directory. Note
> the full file path to that directory.
>
> Suppose that path is:
>
> C:\Program Files\GnuCash\gnucash-cli.exe
>
> (I don't use GnuCash on Windows, so I am not sure what the exact path
> and file name are.)
>
> Then in place of "gnucash-cli", use that full path and file name. For
> instance:
>
> C:\Program Files\GnuCash\gnucash-cli.exe -V --quotes dump nseindia RELIANCE
>
> That should give you the output similar to my example. If you get the
> same error message as before, then there is probably something wrong in
> the path or the file name.
>
> Learning more about using the Windows command prompt is a separate task,
> and one that will probably help you for more things than just GnuCash.
> According to a brief web search, here are a couple of pages that explain
> the Windows Command Prompt:
>
> <
> https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/a-beginners-guide-to-the-windows-command-line/
> >
> <
> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/windows-commands
> >
>
> Teaching details about the Windows command prompt is out of the scope of
> this list. A Windows support group would be a better place to learn
> about it.
>
> Best regards,
>   —Jim DeLaHunt
>
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Re: [GNC] finance Quote Not working

[Jim DeLaHunt]

Paras:

On 2023-08-06 01:21, Paras Desai wrote:
...I tried to run the command prompt, and I received the following 
message.


I run command from as an administrator,  the same message received as 
below.


gnucash-cli' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

This message indicates a problem not with GnuCash or Perl, but of 
learning how to use the command prompt. The message says that Windows 
cannot find a file named "gnucash-cli" in the current directory. You fix 
the problem by using the full path and exact filename for the GnuCash 
command.


Use File Explorer to find the directory where GnuCash is installed, and 
a file named something like "gnucash-cli.exe" in that directory. Note 
the full file path to that directory.


Suppose that path is:

C:\Program Files\GnuCash\gnucash-cli.exe

(I don't use GnuCash on Windows, so I am not sure what the exact path 
and file name are.)


Then in place of "gnucash-cli", use that full path and file name. For 
instance:


C:\Program Files\GnuCash\gnucash-cli.exe -V --quotes dump nseindia RELIANCE

That should give you the output similar to my example. If you get the 
same error message as before, then there is probably something wrong in 
the path or the file name.


Learning more about using the Windows command prompt is a separate task, 
and one that will probably help you for more things than just GnuCash. 
According to a brief web search, here are a couple of pages that explain 
the Windows Command Prompt:





Teaching details about the Windows command prompt is out of the scope of 
this list. A Windows support group would be a better place to learn 
about it.


Best regards,
 —Jim DeLaHunt

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Re: [GNC] Today's search....for .lck

[David T. via gnucash-user]

Yeah, that request has been around at least since 2008...

⁣David T. ​

On Aug 6, 2023, 7:00 PM, at 7:00 PM, Adrien Monteleone 
 wrote:
>I can see the benefit to having logs and backup files together with the
>
>data, but I'd prefer if they were in their own sub-directories 
>automatically.
>
>Regards,
>Adrien
>
>On 8/6/23 6:28 AM, Chris Green wrote:
>> At least someone agrees with me! :-)
>> 
>> I've been muttering about this, on and off, for quite a while!  There
>> should be a way to move the clutter of logs and backup files out of
>> the way, away from where the main GnuCash xml or database file is.
>> (By 'move' I mean a configuration option that allows one to keep them
>> out of the way, I know files can be moved 'by hand')
>> 
>
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Re: [GNC] Today's search....for .lck

[Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)]

On 8/6/23 11:14 AM, Chris Green wrote:
> Having all the GnuCash log files and such cluttering up the directory
> is a nuisance.

On 2023-08-06 09:23, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> I'll add for those who are risk takers, there is:
> 
> Preferences > General > Retain log/backup files > 'Never'
> 
> or 'For' a short period of days, I think the default is '30' which might
> be a bit much. ('Forever' is just mean, but I guess some folks need/want
> that option)

On that same Preferences » General screen there's a setting for how
often GC should autosave. I think the default is every 5 minutes.
I've set it to 10, which reduces the clutter by 50% without much
increasing the risk, in my judgment.

Maybe I've just been lucky, but I've never once needed to look at a log
file or autosave file, in almost six years of using GC. The bad news is,
I have no practice in looking at them, so if ever I need to I won't
exactly be hitting the ground running.

I use GC almost every day. I keep the retention period short, at 3 days.
Since I use GC almost every day, I figure any problem would show up
while I still had backup files available. And there's also my own weekly
backups of my whole disk.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
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Re: [GNC] finance Quote Not working

[Paras Desai]

Thank you Jon

I do try .

Very much appreciate your kind help
Paras

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From: john 
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 9:09:05 PM
To: Paras Desai 
Cc: Jim DeLaHunt ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org 

Subject: Re: [GNC] finance Quote Not working

Paras,

If you're on Windows or Mac you need to give the full path.
Windows:
 " C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin\gnucash-cli"
***Including the quotes!***
Mac:
  /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Aug 6, 2023, at 01:21, Paras Desai  wrote:
>
> Hello Jim,
>
> Thanks for your suggestion and efforts to test finance quote  for me !
>
> I tried to run the command prompt, and I received the following message.
>
> I run command from as an administrator,  the same message received as below.
>
> gnucash-cli' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
> operable program or batch file.
>
>
> I also tried to use Perl Command Line but without success, the same message 
> as above was diplayed.
>
>
> I am not sure, If I am making any mistake, in running command line !!
>
> With regards
>
> Paras
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Re: [GNC] Upgrade to 4.14 (was: Upgrade to 3.11: question)

[Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)]

On 2023-08-04 17:05, Stan Brown (using GC 2.6.21/3.11/4.14) wrote:
> The main point of this is a possible solution to a problem someone else
> reported a few days ago. [Namely, upgrading to 4.14 from 3.x, then running 
> 4.14 and having GC not
open the last-used book. I'm in Windows 10 and Windows 11.]

The solution I described on 4 August -- opening 4.14 for the first time,
getting the "you might like help setting up" message, closing 4.14 and
then reopening it -- worked on my virtual machine.

When I moved files to my real PCs( desktop and laptop), I exported
%APPDATA%\GnuCash and HKCU\Software\GSettings from the virtual machine
and imported them to desktop real machine, _then_ installed 4.14.
Everything opened without a problem. I then repeated the process --
import files and Registry settings -- on my laptop, and again everything
opened properly.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
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Re: [GNC] Today's search....for .lck

[Adrien Monteleone]

I'll add for those who are risk takers, there is:

Preferences > General > Retain log/backup files > 'Never'

or 'For' a short period of days, I think the default is '30' which might 
be a bit much. ('Forever' is just mean, but I guess some folks need/want 
that option)


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/6/23 11:14 AM, Chris Green wrote:

Having all the GnuCash log files and such cluttering up the directory
is a nuisance.


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Re: [GNC] Accounting period on a per-file basis?

[Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)]

On 8/5/23 4:34 PM, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) wrote:
> My own accounting period is the calendar year, but a nonprofit I'm
> keeping books for uses a fiscal year ending July 31st. Accounting period
> seems to be a per-user setting, not a per-book setting. Is there
> actually a way to have different accounting periods for different books.
> (Yes, I know I could create another Windows user, but that seems like a
> lot of overhead.)

On 2023-08-05 17:14, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> Not yet. I think there is a bug filed for that change though.

Thanks, Adrien. I didn't really expect there to be a way, but I'd have
felt like an idiot if I didn't ask and then later found out I could have
done this the easy way.

To Michael's point, setting specific dates, that's not as convenient,
but maybe saving one report with two sets of options will reduce the
amount of date selection I have to do, even if it doesn't reduce it to
zero. (I might have to do that anyway; I have no idea what would happen
when a saved report configuration that selected all of the accounts in
one book is run on another book that has completely different accounts.
But I'll be finding out shortly.)

My workload's already less than it was, because I no longer have to fire
up a VM to do the nonprofit's bookkeeping. (Plus, the books open and
save much faster, and reports come up faster.) While I was at GC 2.6.19,
it was at GC 4.13; now both are at GC 4.14. And when 5.4 comes out
they'll both be at 5.4.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com/

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Re: [GNC] Placement of autosaves and log files

[Adrien Monteleone]

I agree an option would be best with sub-folders as what I'd call a 
'sane default'.


As for the OPs files, I suspect the search wasn't required, but maybe 
seemed to be useful for a directory with *lots* of files. (It also might 
be a case of familiarity with search and limited familiarity with 
sorting and arranging views in File Explorer to quickly find things)


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/6/23 11:10 AM, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) wrote:

If I had a binary choice to put autosaves and logfiles "in same folder"
or "in a sub-folder", I'd vote for Adrien's solution. But I'd prefer to
see it configurable, so that everyone can have it as they wish.

As for the lock file, to me it seems most useful if it's in the same
folder as the database, as it is now. That makes it a bit easier to
notice. Why the OP had to "search for" it is a mystery to me.


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Re: [GNC] Today's search....for .lck

[Chris Green]

On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 10:58:55AM -0500, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> On 8/6/23 6:28 AM, Chris Green wrote:
>
> > At least someone agrees with me! :-)
> > 
> > I've been muttering about this, on and off, for quite a while!  There
> > should be a way to move the clutter of logs and backup files out of
> > the way, away from where the main GnuCash xml or database file is.
> > (By 'move' I mean a configuration option that allows one to keep them
> > out of the way, I know files can be moved 'by hand')
> > 
>
> I can see the benefit to having logs and backup files together with the 
> data, but I'd prefer if they were in their own sub-directories 
> automatically.
> 
Yes, exactly! :-)

I use GnuCash as treasurer of a PCC (Parochial Church Council).  I
have a sub-directory on my system called (very originally!) pcc and
that has a further sub-directory for each year. So, in the ~/pcc/2023
directory I have the GnuCash database file, and various other items
like correspondence, the odd PDF file from the diocese and so on.
Having all the GnuCash log files and such cluttering up the directory
is a nuisance.

-- 
Chris Green
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Re: [GNC] Today's search....for .lck

[Adrien Monteleone]

On 8/6/23 6:23 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:

Quite correct

For a very long time I have had an issue that when I click the app, it 
loads, but after the perl stuff it says"cannot find the file - open 
anyway?" 
The lock file message occurs when there is a lock file (.lck) on the 
last used file.


Lock files are created when GnuCash opens a file and they are deleted 
when GnuCash cleanly exits.


Thus, the presence of a lock file means one of two things:

1. The file is indeed open already. (maybe the app is minimized, or 
maybe the window for it is on an external monitor)


2. GnuCash did not cleanly shut down the last time it was used and the 
lock file remained.


Only if you know for a fact that you are dealing with case #2 is it okay 
to proceed with "open anyway".


From time to time, seemingly randomly, it opens the (presumably 
last used) file and away I go. 


I don't think I've ever seen GnuCash continue to do anything unless I've 
chosen an option from the lockscreen warning. If you are observing 
different behavior, I'd call that a bug.



I am always careful.


Apparently not if you 'presume' the file that gets opened is the last 
used one without making sure. (the file name is in the window title bar) 
And by the names and counts of the files you've provided so far, it 
indeed wasn't the last used file, but a backup. And this has happened 
many times.


But no matter. While you weren't very clear, It appears you are opening 
the app via an app shortcut, and NOT double-clicking the data file. If 
you instead double-click the file, please advise.


Let's move on to cleaning this up. It looks like you started yet another 
thread (not sure why) with a screenshot showing a File Explorer list, 
but it didn't come through. If you can get that screenshot to upload 
(JPG, BMP should work) and we can see the full file list with modified 
and created dates, we can help you sort the mess.


Regards,
Adrien

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[GNC] Placement of autosaves and log files (was: Today's search....for .lck)

[Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)]

On 2023-08-06 08:58, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> I can see the benefit to having logs and backup files together with the
> data, but I'd prefer if they were in their own sub-directories
> automatically.

If I had a binary choice to put autosaves and logfiles "in same folder"
or "in a sub-folder", I'd vote for Adrien's solution. But I'd prefer to
see it configurable, so that everyone can have it as they wish.

As for the lock file, to me it seems most useful if it's in the same
folder as the database, as it is now. That makes it a bit easier to
notice. Why the OP had to "search for" it is a mystery to me.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com

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Re: [GNC] Files in adminisitrato/documents

[Adrien Monteleone]

I'm guessing there was supposed to be an attachment, but it didn't come 
through.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/6/23 8:38 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:

Is this what you need??


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Re: [GNC] Today's search....for .lck

[Adrien Monteleone]

I can see the benefit to having logs and backup files together with the 
data, but I'd prefer if they were in their own sub-directories 
automatically.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/6/23 6:28 AM, Chris Green wrote:

At least someone agrees with me! :-)

I've been muttering about this, on and off, for quite a while!  There
should be a way to move the clutter of logs and backup files out of
the way, away from where the main GnuCash xml or database file is.
(By 'move' I mean a configuration option that allows one to keep them
out of the way, I know files can be moved 'by hand')



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Re: [GNC] gnucash complaining about libdbi version

[john]

Joost,

My Friday post included a link to the bug report. You can comment there if you 
have anything useful to add. "Me too" isn't useful. Ability to dig into 
MariaDB's behavior to figure out what's going on and explaining it would be.

At this point we don't know if support for MariaDB 11 is even possible: One of 
the participants in the bug report used the latest version of MariaDB connector 
and it still tells libdi that numbers are strings so libdbi is unable to use 
query results.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Aug 6, 2023, at 02:21, Joost van Hooren  wrote:
> 
> Yes.
> After sending my issue, I realized I did upgrade to MariaDB 11 a while a
> go, but just haven't used GnuCash since.
> I've just tested and it does work on MariaDB 10, so I'll need to downgrade
> for now.
> Is support for MariaDB 11 in the works? Anywhere I should submit such a
> request?
> 
> On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 11:14 AM Maf. King  wrote:
> 
>> See the post fron Friday by John Ralls "MySQL Backend"
>> 
>> does that accurately describe your problem?
>> 
>> Maf.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sunday, 6 August 2023 08:21:11 BST Joost van Hooren wrote:
>>> Dear GnuCash community,
>>> 
>>> for years I've been happily using GnuCash on Windows, storing my data in
>>> mariadb. Unfortunately it now started complaining about the version of
>>> libdbi and I can't use my data anymore. I didn't change anything and even
>>> tried upgrading from 4.13 to 5.3, but to no avail. Removed the program
>> and
>>> reinstalled, but alas. Nothing seems to fix the issue. Can someone help?
>>> 
>>> The error:
>>> The library "libdbi" installed on your system doesn't correctly store
>> large
>>> numbers. This means GnuCash cannot use SQL databases correctly. Gnucash
>>> will not open or save to SQL databases until this is fixed by installing
>> a
>>> different version of "libdbi". Please see
>>> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=611936 for more information.
>>> 
>>> Thank you!
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Re: [GNC] finance Quote Not working

[john]

Paras,

If you're on Windows or Mac you need to give the full path.
Windows:
 " C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin\gnucash-cli"
***Including the quotes!***
Mac:
  /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Aug 6, 2023, at 01:21, Paras Desai  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jim,
> 
> Thanks for your suggestion and efforts to test finance quote  for me !
> 
> I tried to run the command prompt, and I received the following message.
> 
> I run command from as an administrator,  the same message received as below.
> 
> gnucash-cli' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
> operable program or batch file.
> 
> 
> I also tried to use Perl Command Line but without success, the same message 
> as above was diplayed.
> 
> 
> I am not sure, If I am making any mistake, in running command line !!
> 
> With regards
> 
> Paras
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Re: [GNC] QIF Import Problem

[Brenda Leudke]

Hi David:

Thx for the reply.

 

The qif file is not coming from a financial institution. It is being created 
from a 3rd party software. I was trying to determine if the file was created 
incorrectly or if gnucash wasn’t reading it properly. That’s why I was editing 
the file to see if I could “fix” the qif file to work right in gnucash.

 

Thank u for the link though because it helped me figure out the qif contents. I 
made some changes to the pluses and minuses in the file and was able to get the 
file to work right in gnucash.

So I have contacted the support person for this 3rd party software to let him 
know that it appears to me that the qif file he is creating is not right.

 

Thx again for your help. It did point me in the right direction to resolve 
this. I will wait for a reply from the guy who creates the qif file.

 

Brenda

 

From: David Carlson  
Sent: August 5, 2023 12:27 PM
To: Brenda Leudke 
Cc: Gyle McCollam ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] QIF Import Problem

 

Brenda,

 

It appears that you are editing the QIF file incorrectly.  It should not need 
to be edited at all if it is coming from a financial institution.  I have not 
used that format for income accounts so I cannot tell you exactly what is wrong 
in your case but I think that one side should be appearing in an income 
account, and the other side in a bank account.  If you go to 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quicken_Interchange_Format you will see some 
examples of how the format is used, but I think that it is not 100% correct.  
Try to find a more authoritative source for exact usage.

Also, I see that you are in a jurisdiction that has HST, which we do not have 
in the US.  Others in this maillist may be able to better guide you. 

 

On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 10:55 AM Brenda Leudke mailto:leu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi David:

I was instructed to import into Assets. But I have tried everything – Bank, 
cash, accountsreceivable, accountspayable. The results are all the same.

Here is my import (my last try I used AccountsPayable) as a last ditch attempt. 
I think I have tried everything else.

 

!Type:Cash

D07/29'23

U0.00

T0.00

PCustomer1

MCottage #4 Bkg 1047 07/29/2023-08/05/2023

L

SIncome:Business Income:Cottage Rental:Cottage #4

ECottage #4 Bkg 1047 07/29/2023-08/05/2023

$1300.00

SIncome:Business Income:HST Collected

ECottage #4 Bkg 1047 HST

$169.00

SAPayable:Accounts Payable

ECottage #4 Bkg 1047 07/29/2023-08/05/2023

$-1469.00

^

D07/31'23

U1469.00

T1469.00

PCustomer1

MCottage #4 Bkg 1047 Payment bank draft

L

SAPayable:Accounts Payable

ECottage #4 Bkg 1047 Payment bank draft

$1469.00

^

 

From: David Carlson mailto:david.carlson@gmail.com> > 
Sent: August 5, 2023 11:40 AM
To: Gyle McCollam mailto:gmccol...@live.com> >
Cc: Brenda Leudke mailto:leu...@gmail.com> >; 
gnucash-user@gnucash.org  
Subject: Re: [GNC] QIF Import Problem

 

Brenda,

 

GnuCash also supports QIF imports as they are exported from many financial 
institutions.  Is there a chance that one of your GnuCash accounts has an 
incorrect account type?

 

On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 9:58 AM Gyle McCollam mailto:gmccol...@live.com> > wrote:

Brenda,
Are you using Quicken or QuickBooks?  The Quicken file import used by Gnucash 
is QFX, not QIF?  I don't know anything about the format of the import file, 
but I did a quick download of a QFX file and the layout looks very different.  
I hesitated to respond, because I don't know much about how it works, I just 
know it works fine for me and the only difference was QIF vs QFX.  Gnucash will 
also import OFX and CSV files if you want to try a different format.  I didn't 
see any responses to your question, so I decided to offer what little help I 
could.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com   >   email


From: gnucash-user mailto:gmail@gnucash.org> > on behalf of Brenda Leudke mailto:leu...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2023 3:12 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org   
mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> >
Subject: [GNC] QIF Import Problem

Good afternoon:

I am a first time poster, long time user of gnucash...

I am trying to import a QIF file into gnucash. Gnucash is entering
everything as a debit. I can't verify this but am being told that it works
with Quicken. Is there a problem with the file or is there a problem with
gnucash? I would appreciate any help.

Here is the qif file (an attachment is also included):

!Type:Cash

D06/10'23

U0.00

T0.00

PCustomer1

MCottage #3 Bkg 1032 06/10/2023-06/17/2023

L

SIncome:Cottage Rental:Cottage #3

ECottage #3 Bkg 1032 06/10/2023-06/17/2023

$1075.00

SIncome:HST Collected

ECottage #3 Bkg 1032 HST

$139.75

SAssets:TD Business

ECottage #3 Bkg 1032 06/10/2023-06/17/2023

$-1214.75

^

Re: [GNC] Accounting period on a per-file basis?

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 8/5/2023 5:34 PM, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) wrote:

My own accounting period is the calendar year, but a nonprofit I'm
keeping books for uses a fiscal year ending July 31st. Accounting period
seems to be a per-user setting, not a per-book setting. Is there
actually a way to have different accounting periods for different books.
(Yes, I know I could create another Windows user, but that s4ems like a
lot of overhead.)


Also, as a temporary work around, keep in mind that "accounting period" 
is in effect a short cut. You can use gnucash without reference to 
accounting period by assigning specific effective dates to reports, etc. 
In other words, if you like being able to reference relative to current 
accounting period, you might use that for your own books but explicit 
date specification for the non-profit. Since at one time I was keeping 
books for several non-profits, a more obvious solution for me.


Michael D Novack


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[GNC] Files in adminisitrato/documents

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Is this what you need??

Barry
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Re: [GNC] Today's search....for .lck

[Chris Green]

On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 01:23:33PM +0200, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:
[snip]
> 
> With the greatest of respect, I have always found the plethora of files 
> that appear around Gnucash locations hard to decipher. I'm sure there is 
> a reason for  that, but.
> 
At least someone agrees with me! :-)

I've been muttering about this, on and off, for quite a while!  There
should be a way to move the clutter of logs and backup files out of
the way, away from where the main GnuCash xml or database file is.
(By 'move' I mean a configuration option that allows one to keep them
out of the way, I know files can be moved 'by hand')

-- 
Chris Green
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Re: [GNC] Today's search....for .lck

[Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user]

Quite correct

For a very long time I have had an issue that when I click the app, it 
loads, but after the perl stuff it says"cannot find the file - open 
anyway?" From time to time, seemingly randomly, it opens the (presumably 
last used) file and away I go. I am always careful, because of that 
issue I 'quit' and 'save' religiously, even though I am not religious.


In the configuration locations there is a whole spectrum of places, I'll 
try sending the list if you want it?


With the greatest of respect, I have always found the plethora of files 
that appear around Gnucash locations hard to decipher. I'm sure there is 
a reason for  that, but.


On 02/08/2023 17:56, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

I know Michael. That's the whole point. Have you read the other 
threads from this OP? Their files appear to be a mess of backup files 
used as their book.


And the OP still hasn't answered *how* they open their book, by app 
shortcut, or by clicking the file. I suspect clicking the file. And I 
suspect not paying attention while doing so. Just as you noted.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/2/23 9:24 AM, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:

"GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash.20210219151108.gnucash.LCK"


And while that is a file from gnucash it is almost certainly NOT the 
name the user assigned to the file that is their books << and yes, it 
is a gnucash internal backup file >> The presence of that lock means 
that this backup file was left open. So while OK to delete the lock 
(if you know that gnucash is not running) it is NOT  the file you 
want to open when you start gnucash. Note that if one did 
accidentally open this file could be on the "recently open" list and 
if on the top if the list, will be reopened when you start gnucash. 
THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT.


So LOOK at what gets opened when you start gnucash (the bar should 
show the file name). If NOT the right file, use file=>open to specify 
the correct file name and then once open, shut down. Now wen you 
reopen gnucash will be on top of the list (most recently opened)


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Re: [GNC] gnucash complaining about libdbi version

[Joost van Hooren]

Yes.
After sending my issue, I realized I did upgrade to MariaDB 11 a while a
go, but just haven't used GnuCash since.
I've just tested and it does work on MariaDB 10, so I'll need to downgrade
for now.
Is support for MariaDB 11 in the works? Anywhere I should submit such a
request?

On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 11:14 AM Maf. King  wrote:

> See the post fron Friday by John Ralls "MySQL Backend"
>
> does that accurately describe your problem?
>
> Maf.
>
>
> On Sunday, 6 August 2023 08:21:11 BST Joost van Hooren wrote:
> > Dear GnuCash community,
> >
> > for years I've been happily using GnuCash on Windows, storing my data in
> > mariadb. Unfortunately it now started complaining about the version of
> > libdbi and I can't use my data anymore. I didn't change anything and even
> > tried upgrading from 4.13 to 5.3, but to no avail. Removed the program
> and
> > reinstalled, but alas. Nothing seems to fix the issue. Can someone help?
> >
> > The error:
> > The library "libdbi" installed on your system doesn't correctly store
> large
> > numbers. This means GnuCash cannot use SQL databases correctly. Gnucash
> > will not open or save to SQL databases until this is fixed by installing
> a
> > different version of "libdbi". Please see
> > https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=611936 for more information.
> >
> > Thank you!
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Re: [GNC] gnucash complaining about libdbi version

[Maf. King]

See the post fron Friday by John Ralls "MySQL Backend"

does that accurately describe your problem?

Maf.


On Sunday, 6 August 2023 08:21:11 BST Joost van Hooren wrote:
> Dear GnuCash community,
> 
> for years I've been happily using GnuCash on Windows, storing my data in
> mariadb. Unfortunately it now started complaining about the version of
> libdbi and I can't use my data anymore. I didn't change anything and even
> tried upgrading from 4.13 to 5.3, but to no avail. Removed the program and
> reinstalled, but alas. Nothing seems to fix the issue. Can someone help?
> 
> The error:
> The library "libdbi" installed on your system doesn't correctly store large
> numbers. This means GnuCash cannot use SQL databases correctly. Gnucash
> will not open or save to SQL databases until this is fixed by installing a
> different version of "libdbi". Please see
> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=611936 for more information.
> 
> Thank you!
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[GNC] finance Quote Not working

[Paras Desai]

Hello Jim,

Thanks for your suggestion and efforts to test finance quote  for me !

I tried to run the command prompt, and I received the following message.

I run command from as an administrator,  the same message received as below.

gnucash-cli' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.


I also tried to use Perl Command Line but without success, the same 
message as above was diplayed.



I am not sure, If I am making any mistake, in running command line !!

With regards

Paras
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[GNC] gnucash complaining about libdbi version

[Joost van Hooren]

Dear GnuCash community,

for years I've been happily using GnuCash on Windows, storing my data in
mariadb. Unfortunately it now started complaining about the version of
libdbi and I can't use my data anymore. I didn't change anything and even
tried upgrading from 4.13 to 5.3, but to no avail. Removed the program and
reinstalled, but alas. Nothing seems to fix the issue. Can someone help?

The error:
The library "libdbi" installed on your system doesn't correctly store large
numbers. This means GnuCash cannot use SQL databases correctly. Gnucash
will not open or save to SQL databases until this is fixed by installing a
different version of "libdbi". Please see
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=611936 for more information.

Thank you!
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