Re: [GNC] how to record tax credit for capital loss

2024-01-27 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
Thank you Geoff! Yours is probably closer to what I had in mind when I started the thread. Thank you in particular for your precise screenshot, that's very helpful. I'll try to decide what's effectively best for me now, since it's not so obviously clear. On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 6:36 AM Geoff

Re: [GNC] how to record tax credit for capital loss

2024-01-24 Thread Patrick James
> If I run out of past credits then that's a final gain, that's taxable > the moment it's realized (and some brokers straightly withold it from > the selling price!), it's not possible to offset with a future loss > within the same year. It should be total obvious that to minimize taxes if you

Re: [GNC] how to record tax credit for capital loss

2024-01-24 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 08:26:02AM -0800, Patrick James wrote: > So if you have a DR balance in your Brokerage 1 2020 account, then > you'd credit that account if you sold for a gain today, until the > account balance is zero, and then you'd credit 2021 for the leftover > CR amount, up to the 2021

Re: [GNC] how to record tax credit for capital loss

2024-01-24 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
Ah. I missed the carryover part. That does complicate things. Sorry for the noise. ⁣David T.​ On Jan 24, 2024, 6:55 PM, at 6:55 PM, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: >Here we don't do LT/ST, but it's only possible to offset losses up to >the end of the 4th year after the loss was realized. Meaning that

Re: [GNC] how to record tax credit for capital loss

2024-01-24 Thread Patrick James
You mention picking the earliest year to minimize the tax liability (i.e. maximize the loss matching), but within a window of time. > On 01/24/2024 7:53 AM PST Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > > Besides, one offests losses by fist pickin the > furtherst year first, so it's good to know how much is

Re: [GNC] how to record tax credit for capital loss

2024-01-24 Thread R Losey
I also should add that I am not an accountant. Having said that... I'd do like David said... since the category is called Capital "Gains", I'd make it an Income category, with sub-categories for each broker (hopefully there aren't too many), and maybe every year. I say "maybe" because if you

Re: [GNC] how to record tax credit for capital loss

2024-01-24 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
(and the attachemnt) On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 04:53:57PM +0100, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > Here we don't do LT/ST, but it's only possible to offset losses up to > the end of the 4th year after the loss was realized. Meaning that 2019 > losses are now in stone. Besides, one offests losses by fist

Re: [GNC] how to record tax credit for capital loss

2024-01-24 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
Here we don't do LT/ST, but it's only possible to offset losses up to the end of the 4th year after the loss was realized. Meaning that 2019 losses are now in stone. Besides, one offests losses by fist pickin the furtherst year first, so it's good to know how much is left to offset from each

Re: [GNC] how to record tax credit for capital loss

2024-01-24 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
Likewise not an accountant. In the US (my tax authority), gains are taxed at two rates (long term and short term), and gains and losses offset each other. I maintain separate income accounts for short term and long term gains/losses (income accounts because I'm an optimist!). These are placed

Re: [GNC] how to record tax credit for capital loss

2024-01-24 Thread Patrick James
Again keeping in mind that I am NOT a tax authority. Now that we're on the equity side, let's move forward with your tracking. I very much doubt that you need two separate accounts for the losses and gains; from what you're suggesting, you need to match some gains with some losses. I would

Re: [GNC] how to record tax credit for capital loss

2024-01-24 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
Thank you Patrick for your suggestion! I see what you are suggesting here… Mh. It could easily become very messy as the rules for offsetting gains is fairly annoying here: gains some financial instruments can offset losses only from some other particular financial instruments (i.e., "gains" from

Re: [GNC] how to record tax credit for capital loss

2024-01-23 Thread Patrick James
Let's start with your best bet is to work with your tax professional as to how best to keep track of what's needed for taxes. In the US, what you call a "credit" generally would not be an asset account. The "credit" would be a potential offset to some future gain, if there is any future gain,

[GNC] how to record tax credit for capital loss

2024-01-23 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
Hello, I'd like some input on how to best record a tax credit due to capital loss, and possibly the following usage of such credit. Disclaimer: I'm not doing this for anything worth, it's a personal book that nobody but me sees, so I can take a few liberties and not follow whatever regulation to