[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues (Stevan Harnad)

2015-08-19 Thread MIGUEL ERNESTO NAVAS FERNANDEZ
-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 18:36:25 +0200 From: Nicolas Pettiaux nico...@pettiaux.be Subject: [GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) goal@eprints.org Message-ID: 0dc964714b6dac8a8128979b61ec6...@pettiaux.be Content-Type: text

[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

2015-08-17 Thread Stevan Harnad
Dear Mr Pettiaux, I seem to have been archivangelizing for almost as long as you have been teaching. If there is one thing I can say with near-certainty it is that the slow progress toward green and (fair) gold OA has not been because of their names, nor because of their complexity, because it

[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

2015-08-17 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
Dear Mr Harnad, It has taken me some days, even though I had been gently warned, to digest your mail and to compose a response. Without any doubt, you have been an important and long time actor of and around open access. I am indeed a newcomer to this list, but not completely a newcomer to

[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

2015-08-17 Thread Heather Morrison
hi Nicolas, It is a very good thing to see that works of scholars whose careers are ended are being made freely available online; thanks for your efforts on the Gilbert and other digithèques. My question for you, if the authors have passed away and the heirs are not interested in exploiting

[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

2015-08-14 Thread Hélène . Bosc
- Original Message - From: Danny Kingsley To: goal@eprints.org Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 6:56 PM Subject: [GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues Hi all, There is some appetite it seems for looking at definitions at the moment. In the last couple of weeks I have

[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

2015-08-14 Thread Danny Kingsley
: http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/pipermail/goal/attachments/20150814/8a94cdff/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 16:28:01 +0200 From: H?l?ne.Bosc hbosc-tcher...@orange.fr Subject: [GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

2015-08-14 Thread Couture Marc
Access List (Successor of AmSci) Objet : [GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues I strongly agree with Jeffrey Beall ... journals, like 'ACS Central Science', that provide OA without author charges need to be recognized and applauded! Dana L. Roth Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32 1200 E

[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

2015-08-14 Thread Beall, Jeffrey
To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Subject: [GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues Hi all, Well, I don't know exactly what part of Jeffrey Beall's post Dana Roth agrees with, but I'm wondering about that part of the same post: most peer-reviewed open access journals

[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

2015-08-14 Thread Stevan Harnad
: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Danny Kingsley Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 8:56 AM To: goal@eprints.org Subject: [GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues Thanks Helene, Yes you are not the first to be confused which was which because I put

[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

2015-08-14 Thread Dana Roth
(Successor of AmSci) Subject: [GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues 1. Green OA means OA provided by the author (usually by self-archiving the refereed, revised, accepted final draft in an OA repository) 2. Gold OA means OA provided by the journal (often for a publication fee) 3

[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

2015-08-14 Thread Lucie Burgess
Dear Stevan and all I am very engaged by the GOAL open access list and I find reading it informing, educating, stimulating, and inspiring by turn. The debate it engenders is laudable. But I have never posted to the list. May I say I thought this comment below was a rather inappropriate way to

[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

2015-08-14 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Patience, Stevan. Patience, please... jc -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée Université de Montréal Le vendredi 14 août 2015 à 12:28 -0400, Stevan Harnad a écrit : Perhaps it’s time for our newcomer, Nicolas Pettiaux, to stop posting for a while and do a little

[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

2015-08-14 Thread Stevan Harnad
Perhaps it’s time for our newcomer, Nicolas Pettiaux, to stop posting for a while and do a little reading to inform himself about OA and its (short) history. Otherwise he is just making us recapitulate it for him. On Aug 14, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Nicolas Pettiaux nico...@pettiaux.be wrote: Dear

[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

2015-08-14 Thread Beall, Jeffrey
, August 14, 2015 3:40 PM To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Subject: [GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues According to DOAJ, 67.6% of journals listed (6,283 journals), while 32.3% (2,999 journals) do not have article processing charges. This information is historical

[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

2015-08-14 Thread Couture Marc
: RE: [GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues Dr. Couture is correct that the passage I cited does not itself cite the 2012 SOAP study, and I apologize for this error. Here is what I really should have included: The overwhelming majority (nearly 70%) of OA journals charge no APCs

[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

2015-08-14 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
[mailto:jeffrey.be...@ucdenver.edu] Envoyé : 14 août 2015 15:30 À : Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Cc : Couture Marc Objet : RE: [GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues Dr. Couture is correct that the passage I cited does not itself cite the 2012 SOAP study

[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

2015-08-14 Thread Hélène . Bosc
Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) goal@eprints.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 7:33 PM Subject: [GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues Dear Stevan and all I am very engaged by the GOAL open access list and I find reading it informing, educating, stimulating, and inspiring by turn

[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

2015-08-14 Thread Beall, Jeffrey
: Thursday, August 13, 2015 6:56 PM Subject: [GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues Hi all, There is some appetite it seems for looking at definitions at the moment. In the last couple of weeks I have tweeted about the following: a.. COAR has a 'Resource Type

[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

2015-08-14 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
Dear I appreciate these discussions and clarifications. For me, and for most people who are nex to the subjects and I meet, Gold open access and green open access are confusing terms, even though they have been used for a long time in official documents. Green refers to nature and gold to

[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

2015-08-13 Thread Danny Kingsley
Hi all, There is some appetite it seems for looking at definitions at the moment. In the last couple of weeks I have tweeted about the following: * COAR has a 'Resource Type Vocabulary Draft' - standard naming of items in repositories available for comment -