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Re: [Goanet] Countdown to global propaganda
Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People with severe mental problems have minds that are captivated by a warped sense of reality. We are trying to bring freedom and democracy to their minds. Mario replies: Santosh describes himself as a researcher in mental health who wants to bring freedom and democracy to mental health patients but not to the Iraqis. Talk about a warped sense of reality. We have a saying here, Those who can (do the job), do. Those who can't, do research. Hey, Santosh, lay off the Prozac, huh? It's for the patients.
[Goanet]Health... and transport in glamorous Goa
Last evening, a local businessman had just shared with us very enthusiastically about the potential of that new-found craze called 'medical tourism'. Obviously, the wonky conversion rate between the rupee and foreign currencies can be leveraged to earn substantially, if you know how to play your cards. He compared how much an extraction of a tooth costs in the UK, and outlined how a hotel property could be converted into a place with medical facilities for those desiring it. Maybe an hour later, my friend and ex-journalist colleague from Miramar, Elston Soares, who leaves back for Singapore (where he's based) tonight, narrated how his mum, three-year-old and he himself were down with gastro -- even while the newspapers were playing down the situation, and making it seem as if only a few people were affected. He narrated his tale of woe, as he struggled with Goa's hopelessly inadequately medical system. And we're talking about private hospitals here... forget about the Goa Medical College! In between, we had also exchanged opinions on how doctors sometimes turned into businessmen once they set up their own capital-intensive hospitals, and how sometimes frightened patients into doing tests, procedures and operations they probably never needed in the first place. Elston has promised to put down his travails on paper, once he gets back to his base. Let's hope he does... one can only emphatise with him, when a ten-day holiday home turns into a series of extended stays in hospitals! Another e-friend, Nand Wadhwani, managed to make it from Cavelossim to Saligao yesterday morning... after catching as many as nine buses. It was my mistake to assume that he wouldn't risk Goa's notorious public transportation system, plagued as it is with both inefficiencies compounded by a lack of information. Nand, who is based in Costa Rica, had a story to tell of how he had to change nine buses to get across the distance of approx 60 kms or less! This included some 'wrong' buses, since there are hardly any maps or guidance needed in a tourist-oriented state to guide you to your destination! It's so badly broken, he said, referring to the public transport system. The emphasis was on the word *broken*. For someone who has a background in IT, Nand described the situation quite well. I couldn't help agreeing. Most of Goa's middle-classes (and this includes journalists) have simply seceeded from the problems this system faces. They mostly travel on their own vehicles, whether two or four-wheelers, and simply forget this side of 'the best state in the country'. Just thought of sharing some pictures from the 'other side' of glamorous Goa. Your comments would be welcome. -FN Frederick Noronha (FN)Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia Freelance Journalist P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436 http://fn.swiki.net http://fn-floss.notlong.com http://goabooks.swiki.net * Reviews of books on Goa... and more
Re: [Goanet]Goan Catholics - who are they ?
Dear Gilbert , Could you please explain what exactly you mean by the phrase in brackets. ie non-twice born .Has the expression anything to do with the Hindu philosophy of re-incarnation.ie being born again as a new physical being ?
Re: [Goanet]President Bush and I...
Cornel DaCosta writes from grimy London: I refer to the statement by Mario Goveia, 25/1/05, This is exactly what President Bush and I stand for, which is freedom and democracy for all... The closeness and seeming elevation of Mario to the most powerful man in the world, as his statement might suggest, surely deserves some recognition on Goanet, even if most posts have been anti the Mario line. If credit is indeed due to Mario, for being propelled upwards, let us not hesitate for a moment longer to give it please! I for one, am bracing myself for any possible invective/vitriol, despite my best intentions. Mario replies: Cornel, first let me acknowledge with appreciation that you finally let slip a surname. I thought you wanted to be known by just one name like the Brazilian soccer players. Or like my other adversary/buddy, Goenkarboy, who hides his identity behind a nom de plume. Very mysterious and also very curious. However, you disappoint me, bro. Please come out from under the table. When was the last time I hurled any invective/vitriol at you, even when you well deserved it? I thought we had declared a cease-fire long ago. Did you forget? And, I'm proud to take on all my adversaries single-handedly. It's the least I can do when my young countrymen are voluntarily shedding their blood to bring freedom and democracy to 50 million Muslims previously brutalized by Muslim dictators. You remember the Sticks and stones... ditty, don't you? Anyway, thank you for noticing that President Bush and I are on the same page, though I thought that was pretty obvious by now. This is America, man. Not the UK. Obviously you and Tony Blair are not on the same page. Thank God. I wish we could meet sometime when I could show you the personalized Christmas Card that many of us got from the President, the one that confounded his secular critics because he was the first US president in history who used a passage from Scripture in his official card. And the subsequent letter to thank me for helping get him re-elected, which got me on Haroon Siddiquis verbal-bomb target list. You remember, Haroon Siddiqui is the gutless jihadi who masquerades as a Canadian journalist for the anti-American Toronto Star and throws verbal bombs before running and hiding under his desk. Some of our Goan-Canucks, Mervyn Lobo and Bosco D'Mello, love this guy because they think he's a real journalist. I think he's a patronizing and sanctimonious propagandist myself. Bosco has an interesting theory. Apparently one can vilify America, demonize its leaders, hurl ad hominem insults at them, attack its core values, insult its entire electorate, and yet, be somehow pro-American. Wow! I think President Bush answered this one in his speech on 9/14/2001 when he said, You are either with us, or you are with the terrorists. Sorry, Bosco, that's how 52% of us feel, at least on this one issue, right from the top, take it or leave it. Many of the remaining 48% feel the same as well, but think they have a better plan on what to do. You can fulminate all you like from the safety of the UK or Canada, both probably one mis-step from having their own versions of 9/11, but you cannot have it both ways, not after 9/11, not if you're American, Brit, Canadian or anyone else. That does not mean you cannot say what you like as loudly as you like as often as you like. You may not even be anti-American. You just cannot be considered pro-American. See, Cornel? I wasn't vitriolic towards you at all now, was I?
Re: [Goanet] Countdown to global propaganda
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, in retrospect, my previous misunderstanding was due to your post in which you said I owe my livelihood to research funds devoted to give freedom and democracy to minds held captive by a warped sense of reality. That caused a communications issue, because we obviously disagree on what constitutes a warped sense of reality. People with severe mental problems have minds that are captivated by a warped sense of reality. We are trying to bring freedom and democracy to their minds. Maybe you are expressing a personal not professional view when you seem to believe 100% of what the environmental activists say, whose minds are captive to at least a partially warped sense of reality in the light of all the complex and contradictory evidence, How does this guy know he is right? Does he understand the complex and contradictory evidence? Does he really care about science? Is he interested in a genuine scientific discussion/debate? Can he explain what is meant by a greenhouse effect? Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet]Re: [Goanet-news]NEWS-GOA: Goa Carbon profits, Interpol on lookout for 'gutka' kings
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, neil rangel wrote: COMMENT Its such an insult to our Goan Catholic culture that the term Goa should be used to name a gutka packetGoa Gutka. Chewing beetel/paan is not part of our culture and this foul habit is nothing short of filthy, uncivilized, uncultured and offensive. Who would like to be associated with it? Besides being carcinogenic... Dr. Neil de Jesus Rangel. Otherwise from Sao Estevao, Ilhas. Dr Rangel, I think you're unfairly stereotyping somebody else's food/cultural practices and then using prejorative labels to describe it. What one accepts or not is intrinsically linked to what one is used to over the generations. I don't believe that there is any superior or inferior culture. It's just different! Your comments come across, to me, as much like those of people who castigate the Goan Catholic for eating the unclear meat of the pig. Actually, I think it's more than unfortunate the the 'gutka' sought to cash-in on the brand-image of Goa, while having nothing remotely connected with this State. Yet this is not an issue of religion. (People do chew gutka here; probably less now due to government laws and other steps brough on, in part, due to the campaigns of concerned citizens and NGOs like the late Dr Sharad G Vidya and the National Organisation of Tobacco Erradication.) FN
[Goanet]A celebration by Casa de Goa - Lisbon , Portugal - Unity in Diversity ........ Correction
Friends , I refer to a post I made on the 23rd of Jan 2005 - under subject *A celebration by Casa de Goa - Lisbon , Portugal - Unity in Diversity * http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/2005-January/023499.html In that post , I had omitted the word * music * before the name of Mr.Jeronino Silva . My sincere apologies To Mr. Jeronimo Silva , I am posting an amended version Thank you rene barreto 000 The new Casa de Goa anthem Goyonn : View it at : http://community.webshots.com/photo/41541835/256266128AWFxBm music (Jeronimo Silva) and lyrics (Jorge de Abreu Noronha) - was sung in public for the 1st time, by Group Ekvat. The authors offered the 1st copy to the President of Casa de Goa and the anthem was very much appreciated by all those who were present. 00 rene barreto www.goaday.com
[Goanet]Re: [Goanet-news]NEWS-GOA: Goa Carbon profits, Interpol on lookout for 'gutka' kings
COMMENT Its such an insult to our Goan Catholic culture that the term Goa should be used to name a gutka packetGoa Gutka. Chewing beetel/paan is not part of our culture and this foul habit is nothing short of filthy, uncivilized, uncultured and offensive. Who would like to be associated with it? Besides being carcinogenic... Dr. Neil de Jesus Rangel. Otherwise from Sao Estevao, Ilhas. *** --- Goanet-News Service [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ## # Don't just read the news... discuss it. Learn more about Goa via Goanet# # Goanet is a 10-year-old network launched by Herman Carneiro in 1994. # # See all archives http://news.gmane.org/gmane.culture.region.india.goa/ # # To join, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask to join GoanetDigest. # ## GOA Carbon Q3 net at Rs 1.62 crore Myiris.com - India Goa Carbon (Q, N,C,F)* Ltd. (GCL), the second largest manufacturer of Calcined Petroleum Coke (CPC) in the country, has reported ... http://www.myiris.com/newsCentre/newsPopup.php?fileR=20050124180043011dir=2005/01/24secID=livenews INTERPOL'S Red Corner Notice against gutkha kings Rediff - Mumbai,India ... Interpol has issued a Red Corner Notice against businessmen Rasiklal Dhariwal and Jagdish Prasad Joshi, owners of Manikchand Gutkha and Goa Gutkha, respectively ... http://us.rediff.com/news/2005/jan/24interpol.htm See all stories on this topic: http://news.google.com/news?ie=utf8oe=utf8persist=1num=30hl=enclient=googlencl=http://us.rediff.com/news/2005/jan/24interpol.htm INDIA Trek Awes and Enlightens HarBus.org - USA ... After the speed of Mumbai, the trek moved to Goa where we spent New Year's Eve on the beach. Goa is the place to be on New Year's ... http://www.harbus.org/news/2005/01/24/News/India.Trek.Awes.And.Enlightens-839644.shtml CONFIDENT Mahindra United take on Dempo in NFL tie: New Kerala - Ernakulam,Kerala,India ... 1-0 win over Kolkata giants Mohun Bagan, local outfit Mahindra United will be looking for their second win when they take on Dempo Sport Club, Goa, in the ONGC ... http://athens-olympics-2004.newkerala.com/?action=fullnewsid=64021 SC sends Governor removal petition to constitution bench:- Webindia123 - India ... The Congress-led UPA Government removed the Governors of Haryana, Uttar Pradesh, Goa and Gujarat after it assumed power at the Centre. ... http://www.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=62378n_date=20050124cat=India Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony
[Goanet]Goa Children's Art to Aid Tsunami Survivors
Goa Children's Art to Aid Tsunami Survivors Students Aged 5-14 Invited To Participate, Paintings Will Be Shown in New York PORVORIM, Jan. 25: Schoolchildren from Goa who were deeply moved by the recent tsunami disaster are invited to join a painting session to be held at the Bal Bhavan, Panaji, from 10 a.m. to 12 noon on Sunday, January 30. A similar session was held at the Dona Leonor Rangel-Ribeiro High School, ACDIL, Alto Porvorim, on January 23. The painting sessions are being sponsored by SARAR International, a nonprofit organization based in New York; SARAR is planning to exhibit a selection of children's drawings from Goa, to help raise funds for the relief and rehabilitation effort. Dr. Lyra Srinivasan, the founder of SARAR International who is currently on a brief visit to our state, believes that the children of Goa could make an invaluable contribution to this humanitarian effort through their drawings of different aspects of the tragedy. Parents who would like their children to be involved are asked to bring them to Bal Bhavan well before 10 a.m. on Sunday, January 30. Participants should be between 5 and 14 years old; parents and art teachers will be permitted to provide advice and encouragement. Children who show up will be provided with paper but should bring their own drawing materials including paints and brushes. Children who turn in completed paintings will sign them, and will be awarded a colourful certificate of participation. All the paintings will be taken back to New York where a panel of artists will choose the best to be displayed at the exhibit. Dr. Srinivasan, a native of Porvorim now settled in the United States, has had a long association with social causes in Goa and other parts of the world, working in close partnership with her sisters, the late Dr. Camila da Costa of Porvorim, and the late Leonor Rangel-Ribeiro of Miramar, founder of ACDIL. The activities are being coordinated by noted Mapusa artist Rajendra Usapkar, mobile no. 9822 878 219. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please contact him for further information. ==
[Goanet]Re: Threat to Feast of Our Lady of Springs - Anjediv 2/2/2005
Were really looking forward to attend the feast ( this year, in an organised manner). Would appreciate if our CM could comment on this.(also wrote to him separately). --- godfrey gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Union Minister for Defence Ministry of Defence Govt of India NEW DELHI Union Minister for Home Affairs Ministry of Home Govt of India NEW DELHI Rear Admiral Shekar Sinha Flag Officer Commanding Goa Vasco da Gama Goa Station Commander Sea Bird Project Binaga Karwar Sir, After Mr S K Sinha took over as Flag Officer Commanding Goa Area on 16.4.2004 he had kindly announced in July 2004 that the Navy has permitted (albeit with security considerations) the visit to the Island and celebration of the Feast of Our Lady of Springs (Nossa Senhora de Brotas) on 2nd February, at Anjediv Island (near Karwar) off the coast of Canacona Goa as per the agreed terms of transfer of island by the Govt of Goa. This news was welcome by all and sundry. This year too the customary Feast will be celebrated on 2nd February, 2004 As per a communique from the Archdiocese of Goa Daman, dated 15.1.2005, to Station Commander Sea Bird, this year it is decided that two masses will be held one at 1000 hrs and the other at 1300 hrs to regulate the crowd participating in the Feast. However it is noted as per reports on the local (Karwar) Kannada daily dated 23.1.2005 and confirmed by this writer that one Mr Pramod Mutalik General Secretary Vishwa Hindu Parishad South India has once again threatened to prevent conduct of the Feast on this Island. On an earlier ocassion too on 21.10.2004 on the eve of Dusserha he had threatened to enter the island and conduct religious rites at an ancient temple believed to be on the Island but this move was averted due to the timely intervention of the District Magistrate Karwar and the Navy It may be noted that until 1987 the Island was in the revenue taluka of Canacona Goa and the only Feasts celebrated by the people of Goa and attended by the people of Binaga and Karwar were the above Feast and the Feast of St Francis de Assisi on 4th October. Therefore the attempts of the VHP to disrupt the festivities is uncalled for and needs to be put on check. It may be recalled that the BJP led Goa Government had donated Rs 25,000 to the repairs of this Church and also ensured the smooth conduct of the Feasts in the past years. Therefore the devoutees feel that the State machinery both in Karnataka Goa and the Defence Ministry and Home Ministry Govt of Goa should take all necessary steps to ensure the smooth conduct of the customary Feast and ensure the safety of all those visiting from Goa. The sacred Constitution of India provides for a secular democratic society and therefore any attempts to create a law and order situation should be nipped in the bud. The people of Goa who have maintained a tolerance towards all communities will not be cowed down by such threats . This year they have promised to attend in large numbers as they are delighted that the Sea Bird authorities at its own cost have now (18th May, 2004 repaired the Church and restored it to its pristine glory to the satisfaction of all. GODFREY J I GONSALVES Borda Margao Goa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony = for NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ for SFX Expo cheap Goa flights info.. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/LetsGotoGoa/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
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[Goanet]President Bush and I...
President Bush and I... This is just a very innocent inquiry whether we Goanetters are being fair and giving due credit to those for whom it might be most deserving? I refer to the statement by Mario Goveia, 25/1/05, This is exactly what President Bush and I stand for, which is freedom and democracy for all... The closeness and seeming elevation of Mario to the most powerful man in the world, as his statement might suggest, surely deserves some recognition on Goanet, even if most posts have been anti the Mario line. If credit is indeed due to Mario, for being propelled upwards, let us not hesitate for a moment longer to give it please! I for one, am bracing mysef for any possible invective/vitriol, despite my best intentions. Cornel DaCosta (London)
[Goanet]Air One, new budget airline, to fly from May
Headline: Air One, new budget airline, to fly from May Source: Rediff.com. January 25, 2005 15:59 IST at http://inhome.rediff.com/money/2005/jan/25airone.htm Full text: Air One plans to launch services from May to link cities on India's western coast and is positioning itself as a clear differentiator in the low cost airline market. Air One, promoted by former Indian Airlines officials and headed by an entrepreneur, will fly 50-seater Brazilian Embraer ERJ jets, linking small towns to major cities, but will avoid the highly competitive trunk routes. The Bangalore-based Air One has raised Rs 14 crore (Rs 140 million) as equity, with investors from Kerala and Mangalore, besides a few non-resident indians, Air One chairman and managing director J W Lobo said. He said the airline is holding talks with institutions to raise additional capital for the over Rs 20 crore (Rs 200 million) it plans to invest in the operations. Lobo said Air One would be targeting the full fare paying business commuters and offer reduced rates under 'visiting friends and relatives' fare category, aimed at individuals. Air One plans to sell a majority of its tickets, paid in advance by passengers on the Internet, replicating the success of India's first budget airline Air Deccan, which does not offer credit even to its travel agents. Lobo said Air One will begin with one leased aircraft and by the year-end plans to fly five Embraer jets in the country. We are not competing with any one. There is a niche market, which can be tapped, Lobo said. ===
[Goanet]Countdown to global catastrophe (re: jose colaco's original post)
The following Reuters article briefly discusses how China is using environment rules to help cool the economy. To read the entire article, simply click on the following link: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/PEK272894.htm Regards, GKB __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet]U.S.A should be spreading freedom
Gabe Menezes wrote: U.S.A Should not be adventurous Mario replies: Gabe, I'm not sure what exactly a Brit like you is talking about, whose country is one of the US's most reliable and steadfast allies, along with Australia, two countries we Yanks would die to defend without thinking twice about it. I think the US has not been adventurous enough. In Rwanda, Sudan, Ethiopia, Sierra Leone, Liberia, we should have been very aggressive not just adventurous. If you are talking about the new US policy of seeking out and supporting liberty around the world, why would a Brit like you be concerned, unless you have a problem with encouraging freedom and liberty? The only countries that need to be concerned are those who oppress their own people, have no intentions of giving them more liberty, and are a menace to their neighbors. The US has often been forced to intervene, without it being official policy. The difference is that Bush has taken it to another, more proactive level. The US has always provided immediate aid when Mother Nature is on the attack. Why should the aid be restricted only to Mother Nature's attacks and not when people are being attacked by others? Does anyone with half a brain dispute the fact that there will be more world peace and more free trade and prosperity the more countries there are where liberty prevails for all the citizens? Because of the realities of Cold War geopolitics the US has dealt with several right wing dictatorships over the years because of the the enemy of my enemy is my friend kind of theory. The Cold War is now officially over, and President Bush is going to up the ante with our friends as well. Egypt and Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are prime examples. That being said, this is a long-term policy, no one is going to go nuts overnight, common sense priorities will prevail, force will continue to be the last option, we are not going to destabilize a Musharraf if the alternative worse, like some al Qaeda jihadi who believes as Abu Musab al Zarqawi does that democracy is evil. How would that make any sense? Freedom and democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan will soon speak for itself, in a region that has never experienced such exhiliration. Why do you think the jihadis are committing suicide and fighting to the death? They can't stand the thought that they will no longer be able to brutalize people at will. If Iran wants a home grown internal revolution against the brutal repression of the Mullahs, so much the better. The US hopes that there are more countries that feel that way. Saves us the trouble and the expense. In Kuwait we kicked Iraq out, then went home. In Germany and Japan we had to rebuild what we had broken. Now they are our friends and allies. No one of goodwill who believes that people deserve to live free has anything to worry about. If you believe otherwise, you should be very concerned.
Re: [Goanet] Countdown to global propaganda
Santosh Helekar writes: I owe my livelihood to research funds devoted to helping people who have mental, neurological and sensory problems. I am a brain scientist supported by the National Institute of Mental Health and the National Institute of Deafness and Other Communication Disorders. Mario replies: Very impressive. I'm glad you cleared that up. I must remember to never challenge you in the areas of mental health and deafness and other communications disorders. However, in retrospect, my previous misunderstanding was due to your post in which you said I owe my livelihood to research funds devoted to give freedom and democracy to minds held captive by a warped sense of reality. That caused a communications issue, because we obviously disagree on what constitutes a warped sense of reality. Maybe you are expressing a personal not professional view when you seem to believe 100% of what the environmental activists say, whose minds are captive to at least a partially warped sense of reality in the light of all the complex and contradictory evidence that exists, and you also seem to oppose the reality of the situation in Iraq, where the US is trying to help 80% of the population to be free and get the 35 year old Baathist yoke off their necks.
[Goanet]For those interested in the saga of Low Cost Carriers ...
Check out: http://www.reason.com/0501/fe.mw.fly.shtml Fly the Frugal Skies How low-cost airlines have transformed Europe-and what it means for America Matt Welch
[Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP (THOUGHT FOR TODAY) Jan 25, 2005!
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[Goanet]25 JAN 2005: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 25 January, 2005 THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: Hanso ek upai khontik ani niraxek. To koronddaiechea otmeank dhadosponn haddta ani luksanni kallzank sori korta. (Laughter is a remedy for sorrow and despair. It brings joy to troubled souls, to damaged hearts - repair.) domnic fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] RIVER PRINCESS TO GO: Tourism Minister Matanhy Saldanha announced on January 24 that the UK-based company Cross-Chem International Limited had been awarded the tender for the removal of MV River Princess. Saldanha noted, It was the mandate of the people that the River Princess must go and we have worked in that direction. CrossChem had been awarded the contract and is required to remove the stranded vessel within 110 days staring 24 January. The main clause of the contract is that the ship must go and it has to be floated and taken. The contract is on a 'no cure, no pay' basis, Saldanha said. CrossChem has deposited a sum of Rs.1 crore as a bank guarantee and would stand to lose the same if they failed to complete the task. If the vessel is successfully salvaged, the company will pay a sum of Rs.85.41 to the owner, he said.The Chief Minister said that the salvagers would first have to patch up the holes, refloat the ship and then dredge a channel to remove it from its present location. (GT) SALGAOCAR FILES PLEA IN HC: Salgaocar Mining Industries Private Limited, the original charterer of River Princess was quick to react to the government' s move to award the tender by filing a writ petition before the Bombay High Court at Panaji. The petition prayed for a stay on the removal of the vessel in the wake of the Gomantak Times reported dated 19 January. It termed the government decision as malafide, a well-guarded secret and lacking in transparency. (GT) GOA IS THE BEST: Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar on January 24 claimed that the financial position of the State was sound and that it had been able to reduce its debt by an impressive 9 percentage points of Gross State Domestic Product between 1997 and 2002. Parrikar produced copies of 'A study of debt sustainability' by the Reserve Bank of India to substantiate his claim. (GT) COP SHOOTS SELF: A 24-year-old police constable, Sajan Dasu Vaghurmekar, committed suicide by shooting himself with his service rifle near the All India Radio transmitter centre, Bambolim, on January 24 morning. A suicide note found in his trousers stated that he was taking the drastic step since he was disillusioned with lire and that nobody should be held responsible for his death. He also stated that all his property should go to his mother, and in the event of her death, to his uncle Tulshidas Naik. (GT) FOG IN THE 'LAND OF THE SUN': Dense fog created havoc at Dabolim International Airport where flights waiting to take off were grounded and those wanting to land were kept in holding, over the past two days. According to reliable sources, at least two early morning charter flights had their take-off delayed by at least two hours due to poor visibility. (GT) NUVEM OPPOSES INCLUSION IN MPDA: Tucked away on the Margao-Panaji highway and witness to frequent traffic jams, Nuvem village has been in the news for steadfastly opposing its inclusion in the Margao Planning and Development Authority. It forms a part of those panchayats in Salcette, 18 in number, who have formed a united front to maintain their identity - and, in effect, withstand all efforts to dissolve them into the MPDA. (GT) ONE ARRESTED: Maina Curtorim police arrested a labourer, Jose Borges (27), from Nuvem, for allegedly outraging the modesty of a young lass by trespassing her house at Anos in Nuvem. (H) REPUBLIC DAY CELEBRATIONS: Goa will join the rest of the country in celebrating India's Republic Day on 26 January. The main function will be held at Parade Ground, Campal, Panaji, when the Governor, SC Jamir, will unfurl the National Flag and give the National salute. He will review the parade and present President Medals to outstanding personalities at 8.45 am. Functions will also be organized at Fatorda and Kranti Maidan, Ponda. (GT) INOX PROVES SUCCESSFUL: The INOX draws an average of 3,000 viewers daily which goes upto 3,500 on weekends. For Goans, 24 shows are screened daily in the multiplex which has a capacity of 1,200 plus seats.At any given time, only 4 per cent of the total crowd comprises of tourists while the balance is overwhelmingly Goan. Judging the response so far, we are on the right track and our efforts will definitely turn successful, says Rajan Singh, the marketing manager. The daily collection at the multiplex is a whopping Rs.2 lakh. (GT) HAZARDOUS WASTES: One year after it was set up, India's Supreme Court monitoring committee on hazardous wastes, set up in November 2003, by the apex court to monitor the disposal of hazardous wastes in this country, said it had been pursuing certain serious and chronic situations relating to the management of hazardous wastes...In
[Goanet]NOTICE: TEMPLE TRANSFERS, February 11-12
Hopefully of interest to those in the Tri-State area. venantius __ Dear friends, I am delighted to invite you to attend the Barbara Stoler Miller Conference for 2005 at Barnard College and Columbia University. The subject this year is TEMPLE TRANSFERS. It begins with an evening lecture by Vasudha Narayanan at 6 pm on Friday, February 11, and concludes at 5 pm the following afternoon. We we will be thinking especially of Julia Leslie of SOAS, who passed away this last fall; certain segments of the conference will be devoted especially to her memory. Full particulars, including a link for registration, can be found at: http://www.barnard.edu/temple_conference. Speaking for all the organizers--Laurie Patton, Rachel McDermott, the Barnard Migration Forum, and the Southern Asian Institute at Columbia--let me say how much we hope you will be able to join us. With best wishes, Jack Hawley
[Goanet]Minority education bill, who will benefit?
I would like to thank Thalmann Pereira for posting the article on the above subject. The author of the article, K K Ragesh, has cogently argued the pitfalls of the proposed legislation. It seems to me that the organisation that Ragesh represents, namely the Students Federation of India, is well headed. The problem has been compounded by a recent ruling of the Supreme Court that a minority institution should have minimum 50% of its students from the community other than the one the management represents. Under the circumstances, the institution is not really obliged to take even a single member of the minority community. In fact, it can admit only Hindus and still maintain the Supreme Court ruling. The ruling came when the BJP-led NDA government was in power, and the government pleaders argued in favour of what the Supreme Court finally decided. I wonder if there was a sinister programme of the BJP to dilute the benefits of these institutes to the people who are really deserving, and so take forward their communal agenda. I also wonder why the managements of the minority institutions did not vociferously argue that the the obligation should actually be that minimum 50% of the students should be from the minority community that runs the institute. Sachin Phadte. _ The real power of teamwork. Experience it in real time. http://www.microsoft.com/india/office/experience/ Experience MS Office System.
Re: [Goanet]Cuncolim Chiefs !!
How far is the assessment of T. Souza correct? There will be an other historian with an other story. The truth is that Goa lies rotting in the past 40 years. I hope Armstrong and co would pay a visit to the GMC in Bambolium to face the contemprary issues of Goa or is it Goa now? B. Colaco Such a hue and cry for a bunch of crooks , who didn't hesitate to murder Jesuit Priests in cold blood . Armstrong Vaz , you and whoever supports you should be ashamed of your selves. You seem to have no idea of what to be proud of and what to be ashamed of. Some recent interpretations of history seek to show just about any protest in colonial times as linked to 'nationalism', 'patriotism', 'fighting-for-freedom', etc. This obviously is an exaggeration, and maybe a politically-convenient one at that. Likewise, Dominic Fernandes' interpretation hardly does justice to understanding the issue. Here's an interesting interpretation of Cuncolim: http://www.goacom.com/culture/history/cuncolim.html Excerpts: -- WHY CUNCOLIM MARTYRS? An historical re-assessment By: Teotonio R. de Souza ___ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet]goan catholics - who are they ?
Dear Antonio, I found your note of interest.but the exact meaning of the description non twice born hindus in line 5 of your noteseems to be a bit confusing ! Is this something to to do with the re-incarnation belief that Hindus espouse..that is , coming back to this physical world in a rebirth ? Could you please elaborate ? Thanks ! J.Lobo - Original Message - From: Antonio Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 1:03 AM Subject: [Goanet]goan catholics - who are they ? many MRGs i.e. non resident goans who come to goa on holiday during the christmas season from the u.k. and canada ask me the same quesion: who were we , before we became catholics. the answer is: a minority of todays catholics has a hindu ancestor( non twice born hindus, the brahmins having left the area with idols in their hands ) who lived in the velhas conquistas i.e. ilhas, bardez, salcete and mormugao at the time of the portuguese conquest. ( original gaumkares ? ) the majority of the goan catholics are, however, descended from the non twice born hindus who had made a decision , for better or for worse, to leave their homes and settle down in the velhas conquistas . this migration took place in the 17th century. it could be unequivocably said that by the end of the 17 th century, the population of the velhas conquistas was 99.9% catholic from 18th century onwards more hindus started migrating to velhas conquistas but they did not have to change religio n as the portuguese has lost the zeal for conversion and more because they were being constantly harassed by the british, dutch and french navies in the indian ocean. the portuguese were so busy trying to safeguard their profitable trade in spices that they had no time to get involved in the missionaries' cause. but why did the hindus who later became catholics migrate to velhas conquistas in the 17th century and hindus who remained hindus from the 18th century onwards did the same ? the answer is simple.- for economic reasons. in the 17th and 18th centuries lisbon ( in smaller scale, though ) was what today new york is, a commercial captital of the then known world. but the prosperity of lisbon depended upon their golden emporium in the east i.e. goa. as the old saying goes : ' if one had seen old goa, there was no need to see lisbon ' now the time has come for us to pay tribute to our distant ancestor, a humble hindu ( say, from somewhere near the sanquelim area ) who made that difficult decision to move to velhas conquistas in order to provide decent support to his family members but also to escape the manusmriti prescribed indignities which were his lot, from the womb to the tomb. i simply shudder to think of my fate, had my hindu ancestor decided to stay put in sanquelim area. his descendants gradually improved their lot and he has teachers, doctors, lawyers, priests, engineers, IT professionals, etc., to honour his memory not to speak of thick wallet carrying shippees, gulfees, and NRI s. antonio
[Goanet]Re: Can three left wingers represent a Canadian View
Mario writes: These are you (Mervyn), a committed anti-American left-winger, Haroon Siddiqui, an anti-American left-wing columnist in the anti-American left- wing Toronto Star, and some anti-American guy who wrote a Letter to the Editor in the anti-American left-wing Toronto Globe Mail. RESPONSE: Marioon the flip-side you are a committed American patriot who can see the world the way only you can see it.you are blinded to every other view!! I'm certain...you've done a fair amount of research on Haroon Siddiqui (other than suggesting he is related to Tariq).and would hope somebody from the press like Eugene Correia can tell you more about him. I think he manages the Editorial space on Toronto Star and I'm glad he did not dignify you with a response.something that many Goanetters have. If you had taken the time to read Haroon Siddiqui's screed in the anti- American left-wing Toronto Star you would know he was doing a lot more than politely expressing his doubts about the programs of President Bush, RESPONSE: So the editorials in leading US newspapers and other media are 'polite' is expressing their views in rebutting Presidential policies ?? Yawn-yawn !! whom you continue to try to insult by calling him Georgie. Haroon Siddiqui not only insulted President Bush but the entire US electorate. RESPONSE: And what do Leno, Letterman, Stewart and the rest do every night ?? I guess they too insult the Prez and the entire US electorate by potraying the Prez as a(choose your adjective here).have you tried writing to Leno ? I'm sure you know this, but I'll repeat it nonetheless.there are millions of Canadians who loathe Dubya just like the Canadian Conservatives that loathe the Liberal Canadian PM.but that does not make them anti-American nor anti-Canadianget my drift !! Similarly when people oppose your point of view on US involvement in Iraq it does not mean they oppose democracy and liberation for Iraqis.a point you have repeatedly made for the last 3 months. All you have done is repeat yourself ad nauseaum over and over and over again..on this issue. You've lost credibility albeit you make a good effort to articulate yourself. Millions of Americans voted Dubya for Prez.again. Millions of Americans have given Dubya the lowest rating of any Prez (in history) at the time of his inaugration ? Do you consider the second group of Americans as being anti-Americans because they hold a view other than one of their divine leader ?? Whatever you choose as your answer will end this discussion thread. Best wishes - Bosco --- Goanet - http://www.goanet.org - Goa's premier mailing list is 10 years old
[Goanet]Goan Catholics - who are they ?
GL responds: Good article! As I study the post, I wondered how this explanation ties in with the caste of the Catholic Goans after their conversion. Would you say that the majority of Goan Catholics were non-Brahmins and non-Chardo (non-twice born)? How does the demographic distribution of Goans by caste of say 19th and 20th century Goans compare to the demographic distribution of the 17th and 18th century Goans? Thanks for the response. Antonio Menezes: Many NRGs i.e. non resident Goans who come to Goa on holiday during the Christmas season from the U.K. and Canada ask: who were we, before we became Catholics? Answer: A minority of today's Catholics has a Hindu ancestor (non twice born Hindus, the Brahmins having left the area with idols in their hands) who lived in the Velha conquistas i.e. Ilhas, Bardez, Salcete and mormugao at the time of the Portuguese conquest. (original gaumkares) The majority of the Goan Catholics are, however, descended from the non twice born Hindus who had made a decision, for better or for worse, to leave their homes and settle down in the Velha conquistas. This migration took place in the 17th century. It could be unequivocally said that by the end of the 17th century, the population of the Velha conquistas was 99.9% catholic from 18th century onwards more Hindus started migrating to Velha conquistas but they did not have to change religion as the Portuguese has lost the zeal for conversion and more because they were being constantly harassed by the British, Dutch and French navies in the Indian ocean. the Portuguese were so busy trying to safeguard their profitable trade in spices that they had no time to get involved in the missionaries' cause. But why did the Hindus who later became Catholics migrate to Velha conquistas in the 17th century and Hindus who remained Hindus from the 18th century onwards did the same? The answer is simple: for economic reasons. in the 17th and 18th centuries Lisbon (in smaller scale, though) was what today New York is, a commercial capital of the then known world. but the prosperity of Lisbon depended upon their golden emporium in the east i.e. Goa. as the old saying goes: 'if one had seen old Goa, there was no need to see Lisbon' Now the time has come for us to pay tribute to our distant ancestor, a humble Hindu (say, from somewhere near the Sanquelim area) who made that difficult decision to move to Velha conquistas in order to provide decent support to his family members but also to escape the manusmriti prescribed indignities which were his lot, from the womb to the tomb. I simply shudder to think of my fate, of my Hindu ancestor that decided to stay put in Sanquelim area. His descendants gradually improved their lot and he has teachers, doctors, lawyers, priests, engineers, IT professionals, etc., to honour his memory not to speak of thick wallet carrying shippees, Gulfees, and NRIs. Antonio
[Goanet]Fri., Feb. 4: BLACK MASCULINITIES CONFERENCE at CUNY Graduate Center
For those in NY area. venantius Black Masculinities Conference Friday, February 4, 2005 CUNY Graduate Center 365 Fifth Avenue at 34th Street New York, NY To register for the conference please call 212-817-8215 or e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Provide your name, e-mail, institutional affiliation, phone number, and mailing address. 9:30-9:45- Welcome-Kevin McGruder, Jonathan Gray, Bill Kelly. 9:45-10:45- Keynote 11:00- 12:30- Concurrent Panel Session I Proshansky Auditorium Abolition and Black Masculinity, David Reynolds, moderator John Stauffer, Harvard Interracial Friendships and Freedom in Moby-Dick and The Heroic Slave; Timothy Patrick McCarthy, UNC-Chapel Hill, (Race) Rebels With a Cause: Antislavery Fiction and Black Masculinity, Judith Mulcahy, CUNY Graduate Center, Power from the People: Williams Wells Brown, Thomas Jefferson and the Yardwork of Nation-Building. Masculinity, Gender and Sexuality, Tyler Schmidt moderator Shane Vogel, Indiana, Re-Reading DuBois Reading McKay, Vincent Woodward, University of Colorado, Researching Black Homoeroticism in the 19th Century, Frank Leon Roberts, NYU, 'How Does it Feel?' Frantz Fanon, D'Angelo and the Matrixes of Black (male) Visuality Transgressive Masculinities, Mychel Namphy, moderator Sterling Bland, Rutgers-Newark Parody, Transgression and Black Masculinity in Percival Everetts Erasure, Rosamond King, LIU-Brooklyn Sexual Healing Black Men Write Interracial Relationships, Richard Perez, CUNY Graduate Center Defacing Race, Inscribing Blackness: Afro-Latino Identity in Piri Thomas Down These Mean Streets Masculinity and War, Geoffrey Jacques, moderator David Duckworth, Home of the Brave: WWII Trauma as Expressed through the Male Subject, Chad Williams, Hamilton College, African-American Soldiers and Constructions of Black Masculinity during WWI, Louis Woods, Howard University, On Leave: Black Soldiers in Belfast during WWII Revising Gender, Transforming Masculinity, David Kazanjian, moderator Mark Anthony Neal, Duke, Post-Nigga Identity and the Queering of Hip Hop, Arin Hill, Texas-Austin, Toward s a Critical Cartography: Queer/Black/Female Masculinities, Marla Stewart, Georgia State, Renegotiating our Queer Black Masculinities Trickster Figures, Nick Powers, moderator Tyrone Stewart, Maryland, Taking Black Male Depression Back to the Lab, William Fisher, Columbia, Blowing Our Image Richard Pryor and the Possibilities of Black Masculinities, Anoop Mirpuri, University of Washington Why Cant Kobe Pass (the Ball) Multinational Masculinities, Ammiel Alcalay, moderator Stacie McCormick, Raritan Valley Community College The Limits of Patriarchal Agency in Arrow of God and Nervous Conditions, Andrea Davis, York University-Toronto, Translating Narratives of Masculinity Across Borders: A Jamaican Case Study, Cary Alan Johnson, Africa Regional Director, Planned Parenthood Male Involvement in HIV/AIDS Care in Zimbabwe 12:30-1:30- Lunch 1:45-3:15- Concurrent Panel Session II Proshansky Auditorium Black Masculinity in Art and Movement, LeRonn Brooks, moderator Harry Allen, media assassin, Body Language: African-American Masculine Movement as Dance Vernacular, Derrick Brooms, Loyola-Chicago, Black Masculinities on Display: Representations and Cultural Images in Exhibits, Winston Kennedy-Howard University, emeritus African American Male Imagery in Fine Art and Popular Prints. On The Down Low, Cleo Manago, moderator Jeffrey Quinn McCune, Northwestern University A Good Masculinity is Hard to Find: Towards a more transgressive politics, David Malebranche, Emory, Black Masculinity and HIV Risk among Black Men who have sex with Men, William Gordon, Rutgers, Self Representation, Self Oppression: African-American Men on the Down Low Reproducing Their Own Marginality Prisons and Masculinity, Yasser Payne moderator T.J. Obi, Baruch College, Fighting Sweet Masculinity and the 52 Combat Aesthetic, Talitha LeFlouria, Howard University, Stranger in the Camp: An Examination of the Southern Convict Lease System, Dennis Tyler, UCLA, Iron City: Black Masculinity and Prisons Maculinity and Performance, Glenda Carpio, moderator David Andrew Jones, Queens College, The Representation of Black Masculinity in Les Negres, Julie Godin, Univeristy of Ottowa,Cool to Cold: Urban Space, Masculine Self-Fashioning and Barber Shop Books, Quincy T. Mills, University of Chicago, Race, Entrepreneurship and Respectability: Color-Line Barbers and the Question of Manhood, Expressions of Bondage and Freedom, James DeJongh, moderator Rolando Jorif, CUNY Graduate Center, Reciprocal Ambivalences: Harriet Jacobs and Frederick Douglass. Victoria Chevalier, Cornell, Tracking the Man, Moses: Ritual Productions of Black Masculinity in David Bradleys Chaneysville Incident Maha Marouan, Nottingham, Representations of Black Masculinity in David Bradleys Chaneysville Incident
