--- Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The bigger danger now is Indians buying out Goa. At
least the white man has good civic habits and SOME
social conscience.
The biggest dangers are self-hatred and servility.
Fortunately, these are dying traits among us, Indians.
Cheers,
--- Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sound the bugles! Finally Dr. Santosh
White-man-knows-more-about-Goan-culture-than-Goans
Helekar gets it !
Lashing out is always a weak emotional response and a
sign of insecurity. But the good thing here is this
remark is also an indication of
--- J. Colaco jc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wonder what the above means.
Does it mean
1: Goans resident in India are not Indians
2: Goa is not a part of India
.
6: If there are - only the white Indians (Varna
reborn) have good
civic habits and SOME
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--- Fr. Ivo da C. Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
**It has to be investigated. I found an explanation
in
http://www.boloji.com/hinduism/064.htm and in
http://people.howstuffworks.com/reincarnation4.htm.
I am not discussing it here.
I do accept the teaching of the Bible on the
resurrection
The inclusion of genetic manipulation and morally
debatable experiments in the list of new sins is an
outrageous new example of a conflict between science
and religion. It amounts to the demonization of a vast
majority of biologists and medical scientists who are
involved in developing novel
The stated causes of a declining female/male sex ratio
do not seem to explain the data. The biggest drop of
this ratio is seen between 1960 and 1971. Ultrasound
diagnosis was not available in Goa at that time, so
the gender of the fetus could not be determined.
Consequently, sex-selective
--- Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As to what he does through his inflammatory
talk against migrants and poor people and his
repeated statements branding entire communities as
'savages' 'filthy', etc. and characterising the whole
of India beyond Goa as a 'stinking toilet' -- let us
I am yet to see a single post by Gilbert whose object
is not to demean or belittle others, by making
self-serving bogus assumptions about them. In this
thread alone he now has 4 gratuitous and unprovoked
posts of this nature.
Ignoring the abusive garbage in his latest post
appended below, I
We in IRC will not remain quiet if a foreigner or
insurgent like you attacks our citizens and tells them
to get out of our country. We will surge against you.
Our surge is working. Our painter will take your photo
when you are doing dirty things in public. What
business are you doing on the
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Global temperatures in 2007 were essentially back to
where they were in 1900, which has left the global
warming crowd scratching their heads and threatening
us with higher temperatures in the future.
The above is pure nonsense. The mean global
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. UK's Hadley Climate Research Unit [HadCRUT]
2. Remote Sensing Systems of Santa Rosa, CA [RSS]
3. University of Alabama, Huntsville [UAH]
4. NASA's Goddard Institute of Space Studies.[GISS]
Neither the above institutions nor John Christy of
--- Fr. Ivo C da Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It provides knowledge about the scientific
reasearch which is going on to know how the first
parents, man and woman, came to inhabit the world.
The above confusing statement and the morass of
confusion evident in the rest of Fr. Ivo's latest post
It is important for people to never forget that
reliable and accurate information about scientific
findings can only be obtained from the publications of
responsible scientific institutions, not from
newspaper reports, internet blogs, opinion editorials
or material published by ideological
It is embarrassing to see people once again trying to
defend the caste system by equating it with race and
nationality. It is telling that some of the same
people are also in favor of other types of narrow
domestic walls within India. Perhaps, Narayan and
Romlo will join Goanet one of these days
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It looks like Gabe has overlooked the scientific
information about global cooling since January 2007,
expected to continue well into 2008 as mentioned in
the following link:
To correct the above misguided statement let me point
out that the global
--- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree that caste, trap an individual in them for
life. So does the pigment of one's skin, if one
lives in a 'white' society. So does one's religion if
one belongs to a minority group.
I always thought race was genetically determined and
religion a
An internet blog is hardly the place to look for an
impartial assessment about a scientific issue.
Perhaps, Helga or Joachim who have comprehensively
weighed the scientific evidence on all sides in an
informed and unbiased manner in their professional
capacity, would tell us whether or not it
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have they really? That's good. It is high time
that Goans knew about the furious debate going on
among climate scientists.
I am not exactly sure. But there may be another Goan
or two who would also have a similar serious problem.
Believing that Goan
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which is why I did not ask Helga and Joachim to
evaluate the personal opinions on climate change of
political bloggers and web masters.
Helga and Joaquim were asked to do something even
worse - to take a $150,000 challenge offered by some
Misconceptions such as those in the post appended
below are still seen among a few people, despite the
fact that tnewspaper editorials, ideological op-eds,
lobbyist websites, internet wagers and political
pamphlets cannot and have not been able to refute the
scientific evidence and rationale for
Hi Frederick,
Please see if you can place a PayPal donation link on
the site for a nursing scholarship fund or something.
Regards,
Santosh
--- Frederick [FN] Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Dear all, I thank you all very much for the kind
sentiments and
emotional support offered during
--- Goanet Events [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Research shows that the application of Vedic
mathematics makes use of both parts of the brain. So
versatile is this science that it has been
incorporated in the educational syllabi of many
countries worldwide.
Not only is the above claim about
Frederick [FN] Noronha wrote:
It might just be another way of doing things,
inadequately recognised by (mostly) Western-shaped
science and maths.
Science and mathematics are universal. There is no
western-shaped and eastern-shaped science or
mathematics. Narlikar, Dani and many other scholars
--- Frederick [FN] Noronha
[EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote:
Maths has gender bias (one only needs to google).
And race bias too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-racist_mathematics
It is hard to imagine how invocation of race and
gender, and other spurious postmodernist political
notions
--- Pravin Sabnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All the three medical practices of Allopathy,
Ayurveda and Homeopathy are presently driven by
market forces of an evergrowing industry. But the
alarming thing about the latter two is that they
refuse to be put to test by saying that they are
above
--- Frederick [FN] Noronha
[EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote:
You're assuming it's eastern pride and then asking
why it doesn't work! Could we call this western
arrogance? But that would be as misleading an
approach.
I don't understand what Frederick is trying to say
here. But I know that both pride
--- Frederick [FN] Noronha
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Definitely not a good idea. It would give an excuse
for malafide interests to argue that people fight
communalism in Goa because funds come in from
overseas.
It is not a good idea for other reasons as well.
Organized opposition to any kind of
Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We have to begin the process of telling and
retelling our history as history, not as a grievance,
a open sore to be nursed perpetually by a sense of
victim-hood. To this extent, I think there is a lot
to be done in sponsoring speakers, writers,
magazines,
websites that
The comments quoted below reveal a misguided belief
that all goencars think alike, and that there is only
one xenophobic solution to the problems of Goa. A
little thought and some knowledge of Goan history
should tell us otherwise.
Goencars have varied opinions about what is good for
Goa. Some
Satyawan is speaking the satya. He reminded me that I
should have added the following prescription to
Rajan's list for serious consideration by Anesimo and
others:
p) Evict all non-Goan bhatkars who have stolen the
land of the original settlers of Goa.
Cheers,
Santosh
P.S. BTW, all these
--- Arwin Mesquita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stop selling off your ancestral property, and stop
emigrating when you should have been fighting to
raise the standard of our motherland.
*JOSE C LOBO, Mapusa*
So here is another important prescription to preserve
all our superior Goan
I thank Florianobab for carrying this dialog forward.
We need to think through all the legal options.
Unless, of course, we do not mind being regarded as
fools by all reasonable people who cherish democracy
and freedom (including economic freedom), and those
who respect such a thing as the
This should be fairly obvious to everybody. But I
guess one has to spell it out on Goanet from time to
time.
On matters of health and sickness, please do not rely
on information spread through chain emails and spam.
Please also do not trust opinions of sundry folk on
the internet. Please consult
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
See, all Cardinals are not pompous idiots. This one
has figured out that you all have a hidden God
operating behind the scenes that you are not aware
of.
Try disproving THAT scientifically:-))
Science can only attempt to prove or disprove what
--- On Sun, 9/28/08, Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What has surprised and saddened me is the lack of open and
vigorous condemnation of the anti-Christian actions by the
otherwise moderate Hindus on Goanet. Perhaps their silence
is a manifestation of their embarrassment.
There
--- On Wed, 10/1/08, Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Santosh Helekar had a message rejected recently (as he disclosed) and he has
concluded who the moderator was. However he fails to mention that he was
provided an explanation in the rejection note but did not follow through
This is indeed a balanced view, which lays bare the whole truth, and
suggests requisite actions. Please see the following quote:
Reports that Bajrang Dal and VHP goons have been intimidating
Christians of Kandhamal to convert back to Hinduism by threatening
them with economic cleansing and worse
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Fr. Ivo C da Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
***I do not understand the logic of Dr.Santosh.
This inability to understand is understandable given the evident lack
of clarity about what constitutes genuine science, scientific facts
and scientific explanations.
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
RESPONSE: FALSE!! The moderator did the right thing and asked the poster to
direct his questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
This is quite a mystery! The above is a response to my following statement:
Regarding
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:48 AM, Fr. Ivo C da Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I said that I do not understand his logic means that he is not
answering the problem raised by the phenomenon.
The above reveals the crux of the lack of understanding that I have
been talking about - the
--- On Sun, 10/5/08, Bosco - Goanet Volunteer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
RESPONSE: No! Goanet moderators are individuals who moderate Goanet; Goanet
Admin manage and run different aspects of Goanet - its members can moderate
Goanet too. The names of Goanet moderators have not been
published
--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Bosco - Goanet Volunteer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
#1) You publicly stated what was not true about your rejected message.
I publicly stated that I was asked to send my questions to the Goanet
moderators, not knowing that the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] did not refer to
--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
RESPONSE: Yes, unfortunately, the receiving end just happen
to be Christians and the dishing end happen to be Hindus.
The receiving end of communal violence are innocent people of all faiths,
persuasions and perspectives. It is
--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good to see another broader perspective on this problem
being posted here.
I am sorry, I just realized that S. Gurumurthy's perspective is also a partisan
and political perspective. His organization appears to be affiliated
--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
QUESTION: Are you calling my assertions as being partisan?
I have to go through all your posts on this issue to determine whether any of
them are partisan. But here is an example of a partisan statement:
COMMENT: My commiserations
--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my opinion, the only perspective that counts is that we
are seeing once again that anarchy lurks just below the
surface in certain segments of Indian society, ready to
erupt into wholesale violence at the slightest provocation,
--- On Tue, 10/14/08, Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
RESPONSE: Come off it man! No one who has commented on this
forum, has stated that there is a wide spread Hindu put down of the
Christian community or for that a Muslim one. You are insinuating
what has not been stated on this
--- On Thu, 10/16/08, George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Aires cares for Goa and I know he and Prajal will emerge well from this
injustice with greater strength. Our best wishes to them, the good fight has
a few causalities but good triumphs in the end.
The attacks on Aires and Prajal are
--- On Thu, 10/16/08, Rina Mukherji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*Mind you, not all Christian churches are into such proselytization, but
there is a new crop of missions that makes this their agenda. It is this
that must be opposed-in the cause of secularism and peace!*
There is nothing wrong or
--- On Thu, 10/16/08, Monica Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2. Some Christian radical sects may be resorting to
conversion but one cannot assume all Christian sects are the same and
punish all the Christians. For instance, Rajni Mahsi, the poor girl who
was burnt to death, was a Hindu
--- On Sat, 10/18/08, Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As the whole truth is claimed to be not known, one can engage in 'Pious
Bigotry'.
I never knew Gilbert had such low respect for the whole truth and such low
opinion of pious people or piety.
Cheers,
Santosh
What the following post says about genetics, homosexuality, biology and human
behavior is utter nonsense.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Sun, 10/19/08, Averthan D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is Homosexuality genetically conditioned ?
Another untenable argument being adduced for
--- On Sun, 10/19/08, Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The principle is: When one cannot argue the facts,
(through ignorance or bigotry) blame the questioner ... and
sound intelligent with a questioning mind.
Gilbert cannot bear the fact that I drew attention to the truth that
--- On Mon, 10/20/08, Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
These, wit names and documentary evidence will be duly submitted to
legitimate investigators, if the Indian Government (not to be confused with
a *Orissa govt.' if any exists,) ever seriously sets up an impartial
commission of
--- On Tue, 10/21/08, Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do not know whether to laugh or to cry about YOUR desire for facts.
It is troubling to note that Gilbert cannot decide to laugh or cry when he is
presented with the fact of a horrible and tragic death of an innocent human
--- On Wed, 10/22/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And that is why I feel disappointed when our intellectuals
who should be the catalysts for such action become armchair
discussion groups trying to put on airs of objectivity.
I am disappointed that activists fail to recognize
--- On Wed, 10/22/08, Gabriel de Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No wonder nobody believes Indians anymore. There appear to be more rotten
apples than good ones at present.
To the extent that there are Goanetters who hold this low opinion of their
fellow Indians, I wonder what they
--- On Thu, 10/23/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All apologists for the sangh parivar may treat this report as 'partisan
propaganda' and / or 'rumour mongering'
A man who demonizes those who disagree with him on the need for objectivity,
skepticism and levelheadedness
--- On Thu, 10/23/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
P.S. Statutory Warning: all apologists for the sangh parivar may treat this
report as 'partisan propaganda' and/ or ' rumour mongering'
I would like to kindly request Marshall Mendonza not to keep repeating this
derisive
--- On Fri, 10/24/08, Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are right indeed to give a health warning; Catholic Goans need to be
afraid, very afraid indeed, I can see the VCD attack on the CM as a start
to be destabilisation process.
How does this unprovoked comment promote the cause
--- On Sun, 10/26/08, Gabriel de Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is it that makes them so? Is it their genes,
upbringing, caste, color of the skin or religion?
Ah! you're the scientist. This sort of analysis is your
forte, I should think.
I am not the one who believes that
--- On Sun, 10/26/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am intrigued how Santosh finds articles and news items exposing hindutva
activities communal.
What I find ill-advised from the standpoint of promoting communal harmony in
public forums are over-heated rhetoric, flame baits
--- On Sun, 10/26/08, Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is the bigots that have been making the case (directly and indirectly)
that the violent Hindutva extremists are the 'good guys' and there is
absolutely no scientific proof and no logical reason to paint them the 'bad
guys'.
--- On Sun, 10/26/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. Santosh has arrogated to himself the right to pass
judgement on others, label or brand those who hold contrary
views from his and decide what is the truth and what is not.
False. Most of the times, I try to question the
--- On Mon, 10/27/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Finally, I must say that I am disappointed that Santosh lacks the
intellectual honesty and humility to accept where he is wrong but would
continue to flog and grind an issue until the other party gives up in
exhaustion.
Quite
Earlier Gilbert had claimed that there are bigots on Goanet who stated that
violent Hindu extremists are good guys, and that this fact somehow contradicts
the following assertion of mine:
This article was forwarded to me by a level-headed mainstream Goan who rightly
believes that the best way
The failed attempts at deception in Marshall’s latest propaganda piece against
me in this thread are:
1. He falsely implies that my short general comments on an Ingrid Albuquerque
article that I posted are somehow different from a general comment that I made
on a Gurumurthy article posted by
--- On Sat, 11/1/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is a typical christian response to the violence
unleashed against them. Love thy enemy. No hate, no
hypocrisy, no intellectual airs.
How are typical Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Buddhist, Jain, Parsi or other
non-Christian
I give below latest examples of partisan chauvinistic remarks, the likes of
which are unlikely to promote communal harmony in this secular public forum.
I repeat again, my old advice to you: Become Christian and immediately U will
have been 'Enlightened'!!! Your perception of everything even
If the low information voters elect Obama even after reading the highly
rational and independent analysis below then they would have committed treason.
Some indisputable facts that were inadvertently left out from this insightful
missive are that this Osama is a Muslim and an anti-American
--- On Tue, 11/4/08, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Even though he was listed as a Muslim as a small child on a
school registration form in Indonesia, Obama has been a
practicing Christian for the last twenty years, courtesy his
mentor and close family friend, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sometimes our personal equations take precedence over objectivity.
What? Now objectivity is a good thing? When did this change of mind occur?
I am here to contribute positively and constructively.
I hope the above assertion
--- On Wed, 11/5/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He is as human like us with the same weaknesses and failings as any
of us. He too trips at times.
The above is an accurate characterization of what I am, biologically and
psychologically. I wouldn't want to be any different.
Let me try to be objective and measured in expressing my thoughts at this
incredible moment in our time.
Nah! What the heck! This is my chance to be hyperbolic.
This is the dawn of a new age in the glorious history of a great nation, in the
unwritten destiny of this planet of sentient
--- On Wed, 11/5/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The greatness of a person lies not in proving others
wrong but in accepting and acknowledging one's own
wrongs- Annonymous
A man who is happy to have human failings has no illusions of possessing
greatness - Lame Dukor
--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Chris Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Attempts are being made by a cabal on this forum in the form of a steady
drumbeat to muzzle the conservative point of view by intolerant and hateful
rethoric. We must guard against any such attempts against an open and honest
--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While supporting Obama and his policies, Marlon obviously
likes McCain because McCain is more like a Democrat than
most Republicans. Which is one reason he may have lost.
Many voters said, Why vote for a Democrat-like
Republican -
--- On Fri, 11/7/08, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marlon heads some anti-conservative contingent
on Goanet? Oh, really? That may come as a shock to him,
who was last heard from pretending to be a Libertarian:-))
What a comedian, that Marlon:-))
Everybody is conspiring against
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--- On Sat, 11/8/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In an earlier posting when I had posted George Menezes'
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preface that it was a typical christian reaction to
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