[Goanet] FROM GOA: Mando festival ... live this week (Thurs-Fri)

2021-12-08 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
The 54th All Goa State Level Mando Festival 2021 will be held on 9th & 10th December 2021 at 7.00 pm at Menezes Braganza Hall, Panaji organised by Goa Cultural and Social Centre. This year it gets even bigger as we go hybrid with limited attendance and LIVE online on our YouTube channel and Faceboo

[Goanet] VEM CANTAR: FINALS 27SEPT2014: Osler Dias, Sherwyn Correia, Kelly Ribeiro, Larissa Carvalho, Fatima Convent, Vozes Radicais and Vozes de Vasco de Gama win! [Community Video, sharable]

2014-09-28 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
>From the event held on Sept 27, 2014 at the Taleigao Community Centre, Goa: Category I: 8-11 years - FIRST: Osler Ben Dias [Fadinho Serrano] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyFAWz6jiT8 SECOND: Beverly Marie Mendonca [Lisboa de Fernao] https://www.youtube.com

[Goanet] GOA BUS-RIVER TRAGEDY: Some rather saddening visuals from Calvim (Aldona)...

2012-02-18 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
[Initial reports put the deaths at 15. The number of bodies recovered by late Saturday was 7. But it is not clear if more persons are still missing...] The uploader (selvinaabraham) of these videos, who was at the venue, has commented: I am afraid of political people. they got a chance to blame ea

Re: [Goanet] Update on Kandhamal

2011-12-24 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
This one read more credible to me: http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/columns/Harsh_Mander/article2723257.ece Three cheers to the reality that there are still some staunchly secular and concerned citizens around. Who will not pretend to be asleep (and thus refuse to be woken up) when confronted by ug

Re: [Goanet] Dan Driscoll fearlessly leaks his Christmas brag-letter. . .

2011-12-24 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Dan, thanks for that lovely, long and charming "report"! I can surely understand your decision, but people like me will definitely miss your presence here. My one regret will be that though I ran into Germana (at the Betim ferry) many years ago, I actually got to know you closely only very recentl

Re: [Goanet] No Development works in Goa for next 10 months

2011-12-24 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
I wish politicians could take a break from wanton and wasteful spending for five years at a stretch! And follow it up with successive terms. FN On 24 December 2011 20:30, SHANTARAM NAIK wrote: > NO DEVELOPMENT WORKS IN GOA FOR NEXT 10 MONTHS > > Mr Shantaram Naik M.P while welcoming the announcem

[Goanet] Goa, 1961 and Beyond... some images from a seminar

2011-12-24 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Goa, 1961 and Beyond... some images from a seminar http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157628542752335/ Please help to place captions below the photos (in the comments section). A couple of other audio links that might be of interest: Goa 1961 Aspirations and Testimonies http://www.archiv

Re: [Goanet] Goa, 1961 and beyond... themes and topics from Goa (long)

2011-12-23 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Dear Braz, You're right. There's a wide range of scholarship, on interesting topics, out there. I'm not sure what the organisers' plans are... the idea was to also have the full-text of the papers available online at iias.org. In fact, the abstracts are there already; but my hunch is that fewer pe

[Goanet] CALL FOR ARTICLES: Sod, research bulletin from Goa

2011-12-23 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Sod, the research bulletin of the Thomas Stevens Konknni Kendra, invites articles for *Sod 16*. Ideally, articles for this issue should be well-written and thought-provoking pieces dealing with the Konknni language, literature, culture or wider research articles related to Goa, its history and cult

Re: [Goanet] Public Domain !

2011-12-22 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Dear Dr Eric, My understanding is as follows: * There is no such thing as a "site that lies in the public domain". How would you define one? Just because a site is publicly accessible, it doesn't mean it is "in the public domain". * There question of "material consideration (or compensation)" is

[Goanet] Any idea why the Goa Telecom online directory is non-functional?

2011-12-22 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
http://210.212.176.226/namesearch.php?selssa=GOA -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Saligao Goa IN http://fn.goa-india.org Skype: fredericknoronha --- Protect Goa's natural beaut

[Goanet] AUDIO: Goa 1961 Aspirations and Testimonies

2011-12-21 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Goa 1961 Aspirations and Testimonies http://www.archive.org/details/Goa1961AspirationsAndTestimonies Recordings from a programme held on December 18, 2011, the eve of the 50th anniversary of the end of Portuguese rule in Goa. Organised as part of the wider Goa 1961 And Beyond converence (organised

Re: [Goanet] Portuguese propaganda

2011-12-21 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Cry? There are rivers of tears still flowing outside my home... FN PS: Your humorous choice of words sent me dashing for the dictionary... online: ve·he·ment   [vee-uh-muhnt] Show IPA adjective 1. zealous; ardent; impassioned: a vehement defense; vehement enthusiasm. 2. characterized by rancor

Re: [Goanet] VIVA-RE-GOA presented by late NOLASCO DIAS

2011-12-20 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Interesting. Does it date back to 1980s then? If not mistaken, this is also described in some sociological texts... FN On 18 December 2011 02:48, Domnic Fernandes wrote: > While I was digging into my storage cartons to locate Christmas Carol > oldies' audio cassettes, I found one of Nolasco Dias

Re: [Goanet] "Shinning bowl" debate Was: 50 YEARS FROM A SHINNING BOWLTO A DUST BIN

2011-12-19 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Floriano, You're mixing up issues and shifting goalposts here... We can certainly debate about whether Goa has become a "dust bin" over the course of 50 years, what kind of changes have taken place, whom it benefits and how. But my questions are about this attempt to show colonial Goa as some ki

[Goanet] "Shinning bowl" debate Was: 50 YEARS FROM A SHINNING BOWL TO A DUST BIN

2011-12-19 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Overall comment: ridicule and abuse is no argument! > It has only taken 50 years to turn a shinning bowl into a dust > bin. Jai Hind! Jai Bharat! - Soter D'souza Do you mean that Goa was a "shinning bowl" after 451 years of colonialism in 1961? If so, could you care to explain how exactly? What

Re: [Goanet] 50 YEARS FROM A SHINNING BOWL TO A DUST BIN

2011-12-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
When was it a "shinning bowl" and how? FN On 18 December 2011 22:56, SOTER wrote: > It has only taken 50 years to turn a shinning bowl into a dust bin. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty

Re: [Goanet] Goa - Hawaii.

2011-12-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
On 18 December 2011 18:04, eric pinto  wrote: > > Goa and Hawaii  are on the same latitude - 15 Degrees North  ! > -- > Hawaii & Goa are both tourist destinations and exotic fruit would do well > here in Goa to

Re: [Goanet] Thank God Its Friday

2011-12-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Moral of the story: you can blame Goanet for *your* mistakes! Thanks for having the courage of admitting this (at least the first part) publicly. FN On 19 December 2011 01:48, wrote: > Knew it was a mistake the moment I clicked 'Send'. Was surprised to actually > see it on GN two days later! >

Re: [Goanet] So much for independent Goa !

2011-12-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Floriano, You are getting caught up in your rhetoric! Please tell us if you have any reasons or logical argument to question the arguments of Antonio Menezes. Just cursing his supposed "slavish mentality" or what you claim to be "no iota of self-esteem and pride" doesn't convince me that you are r

Re: [Goanet] Thank God Its Friday

2011-12-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Didn't appreciate this one! At least, if I wanted this kind of humour I wouldn't visit Goanet, but go elsewhere. Kitem reh baba Roland? You're capable of much better. Leave cheap cut-and-paste to acknowledged 'experts' like me! FN On 17 December 2011 01:57, Roland Francis wrote: > A woman arriv

Re: [Goanet] Goa - 50 years of colonization

2011-12-17 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Was it this say -- what's the word? -- colonization that gave you access to an engineering education and a passport to move on to greener pastures? Or would you have done it anyway via Lisboa even if Uncle Salazar was immortal in Goa? Has the Goan-distrusts-Goan reality been any less acute, right

Re: [Goanet] WENDELLL WE SHOULD DO IT OURSELVES: MEMORIAL TO MARIO MIRANDA

2011-12-17 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
The other rich one was never awarding Alfred Rose officially in Goa, ostensibly on the claim that he did not live in Goa (if I recall right!) FN On 17 December 2011 10:44, Venantius J Pinto wrote: > Forget mining blood, meaning that before one even gets there, think of the > fact (pretty sure of

Re: [Goanet] WENDELLL WE SHOULD DO IT OURSELVES: MEMORIAL TO MARIO MIRANDA

2011-12-16 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Wouldn't a better tribute be a school for cartooning bearing Mario's name, which would not only celebrate his achievements, but also give a chance for talent to grow out of Goa? FN On 16 December 2011 18:43, Gerald Fernandes wrote: > I find myself in agreement with the thoughts expressed by Wende

[Goanet] The article that changed history

2011-12-16 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
On 16 December 2011 19:12, J. Colaco < jc> wrote: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16207201 > Anthony Mascarenhas July 1928: Born in Goa, 1930s: Educated > in Karachi A post from May 2006: *** BRIEfnCOUNTERS: A Legacy of Blood ... in Dhaka Frederick Noronha (FN) fred at bytesforall.org S

[Goanet] A collage of public interest ad campaigns... by Sanjay

2011-12-15 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Ansuni, a collage of public interest ad campaigns by Sanjay, at Ruchika's ... now underway in Goa: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6517046487/sizes/l/in/photostream/ -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org -

[Goanet] An international conference... Goa 1961 and Beyond (Goa Univ, Dec 18-20, 2011)

2011-12-14 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE: GOA 1961 AND BEYOND An Intellectual Appreciation and Celebration of Fifty Years of the Liberation of Goa Co-organised by Indian Institute of Advanced Study, Shimla India Goa University Goa, India Centro de Estudos Sociais Universidade de Coimbra, Portugal

[Goanet] NEW BOOK: Goan Pioneers in Bombay... by Dr Teresa Albuquerque

2011-12-14 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Dear all: Some details from the table of contents of a new book by historian Dr Teresa Albuquerque (incidentally the grand-daughter of B.X. Furtado, well known for his early and pioneering work in printing and publishing, and the sister of the prominent editor late Frank Moraes) was released at a f

Re: [Goanet] Re; Goanet

2011-12-14 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
No question of senility. Albert has many plays to write yet, and Alfred has so much more to pen down too. FN On 14 December 2011 15:06, Alfred de Tavares wrote: > > Perhaps the Chacha Senility Syndrone is getting on to a virulent virus? > >> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:59:23 +0530 >> From: tonyde.

Re: [Goanet] Re; Goanet

2011-12-14 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Dear Tony, Nothing will be held against Albert! We were neighbours in Saligao (and good ones at that!) In my younger days, we even served Mass together as altar-boys. Such relations go deep :-) FN On 14 December 2011 11:59, Tony de Sa wrote: > Are you getting Fredparanoia Albert? Check your mail

[Goanet] Portugal in Salazar-times

2011-12-13 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
PORTUGUESE FASCIST PROPAGANDA (WITH TRANSLATION) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYKEKwWYmJE&feature=related Wonder if anyone saw this in Goa in those times, and what they thought of it then? (1940s). FN ---

[Goanet] William de Curtorim

2011-12-11 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
An unusual photo of William de Curtorim... http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/100774626/ FN -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Saligao Goa IN http://fn.goa-india.org Skype: fredericknoronha ---

[Goanet] Mario Miranda, noted Goan cartoonist, is no more

2011-12-11 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Mario Miranda, noted Goan cartoonist, is no more. He passed away at 86. Mario, apart from being a very popular cartoonist, defined the way in which Goa was perceived by the outside world too. More about him here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Miranda An earlier tribute to his work here: http:/

Re: [Goanet] (no subject)

2011-12-10 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Error subscribing: - alizadeso...@hotmail.com -- Already a member On 10 December 2011 22:07, Albert Desouza wrote: > I wish to subsrcibe to goanett,. my email address is > alizadeso...@hotmail.com. My name is albert de Souza Mapuca Goa Albert de > souza > -

[Goanet] Research... and writing on Goa

2011-12-10 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
http://iias.org/goa/contents.html Abstracts CONTENTS Language Dynamics in the Classroom: the Agency of the Teacher and Language Planning AFONSO BOTELHO Rosary College of Commerce and Arts, Navelim, Goa Vistas on the Road from Portuguese Civil Code to Family Laws of Goa ALBERTINA ALMEIDA Advocat

Re: [Goanet] CLEARING THE POLITICAL GARBAGE

2011-12-09 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Looks like just a case of ageism to me (on Aires' part, while the good doctor seems guilty of provocatively overdiagnosing here). It might seem tough to legally disallow "more than one in a family" from contesting. But what with the reality of politicians here bringing in their brothers, sons, dau

Re: [Goanet] Should the Church or Priest dabble in politics? response to Nisser Dias

2011-12-08 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
The word "dabble" is a loaded word. It presumes ab initio that the priest is doing something wrong by being where he is not meant to be. How would we respond to a question such as: should the common man dabble in the elections? (We would think this is a bizarre question, and rightly so.) My views

Re: [Goanet] Lisbon’s rule over Goa unacceptable

2011-12-08 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Eric, this is not 2011! FN On 8 December 2011 19:19, eric pinto wrote: > I believe the official were either misquoted or misinterpreted. They are > in a struggle to survive, and are more likely to ask India for assistance, > rather than damage the amity of several decades. Little justifies th

[Goanet] FS: Boarding Party: The Last Action of the Calcutta Light Horse, by James Leasor, WWII espionage

2011-12-07 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
-- Forwarded message -- From: Rachel Jagareski Date: 8 December 2011 01:04 Subject: [b] FS: Boarding Party: The Last Action of the Calcutta Light Horse, by James Leasor, WWII espionage To: Bibliophile Dear Biblians: Today we are pleased to offer: Boarding Party: The Last Actio

[Goanet] PHOTO: Goan diaspora youth... at Porvorim

2011-12-06 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
NRI Affairs Commissioner Eduardo Faleiro with 11 youth from the Goan diaspora, drawn from various countries, currently on the Fourth Know Goa Programme, at the Assembly Complex, Porvorim, on December 6, 2011. Also seen are chief secretary Sanjay Srivastava, NRI Affairs Director UD Kamat, OEAG chair

[Goanet] Photos of 1961...

2011-12-06 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Would anyone have photos of the end of Portuguese rule in Goa in 1961? Or if you know where these could be accessed, kindly let me know. Thanks! FN -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Saligao Goa IN http://fn.goa-india.org Skype: fredericknoronha

Re: [Goanet] Fwd: MOI- will Kangress dare put their preference for English in the election manifesto?

2011-12-05 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
About the MGP supporters I cannot speak, because I do not know the circumstances of the case. Was it a caste or class battle? To me, your disdain for diversity is reflected in your criticism of networks where The Other (however these be defined) seem to predominate. If you had to make such commen

[Goanet] FW: Invitation to Canning House, Belgrave Square: Friday 16

2011-12-05 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Talk: "From Invisibility to Visibility: Africans in Portuguese Space" "From Invisibility to Visibility: Africans in Portuguese Space", by Shihan de Silva, author of 'African Identity in Asia'

[Goanet] Goa and the Gramophone

2011-12-05 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Goa and the Gramophone India almost missed the hallowed Gramophone at the 54th Grammys this year. Not a single Indian artiste or one of Indian origin living abroad has been nominated. There is, but one desi connection, even though it may not be the proudest moment for Indian music. London folk out

Re: [Goanet] To add to the debate on English : Why can't we all just get along?

2011-12-05 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
This is getting both boring and childish. (i) I have a name, so please use it, if you wish. (ii) As I see it, I do not need either "honorifics" or patronisingly-bestowed prefixes or suffixes to my name. JC has also been using the word "patracar" in a similar vein. (iii) When I take part in Goane

Re: [Goanet] Secularism, Goan Style...

2011-12-05 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
extremist propaganda constitute > "Secularism, Goan Style"? Do you regard Hindu Janajagruti Samiti as a Goan > secular organization? > > Cheers, > > Santosh > > P.S. > * - Please let me know if you are not a Goanet Administrator. > > 2011/12/3 Frederick

Re: [Goanet] IFFI clashing with St. Xavier feast: GCWU petitions Sonia Gandhi.

2011-12-05 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Juino, is this part of the pro-BJP pre-poll campaign? FN PS: Not that I think Congress is any better! On 5 December 2011 10:14, juino desouza wrote: > The Goan Catholic Welfare Union > J.B. Villa, Park Street, B.B. Borkar Road, Alto Porvorim- Goa 403521 > Tel: 2420394 , Mob: 09923133412 > > > IF

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Say it... in Konkani (FN, in GT)

2011-12-04 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Hi Angela, Agreed with what you say. Goa might be a better place from where to pick up such movies and music CDs. (Video-films or CD-based films are more popular and widespread than mainstream films here, for the obvious reason that few of the latter get produced.) JoeGoaUk has been compiling usef

Re: [Goanet] Why Goa-related books sell and do not sell - personal impression

2011-12-04 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
On 4 December 2011 19:25, J. Colaco < jc> wrote: > There were a number of stalls. During our 2 hours in stalls' area, not > a fly visited the book stall whereas the sausages and pickles were > selling like hotcakes (so to speak). Assuming your experience reflects a wider reality, at best you cou

[Goanet] Translations...

2011-12-04 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Can someone help me to build this list of translators, please? It is so important for a multilingual society like Goa. We are currently discussing it at http://groups.google.com/group/goa-book-club : * Sometime back, I had got a quote for Spanish-English translations from Delhi Minni Shawhney minn

[Goanet] Wanted: translators

2011-12-04 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Wanted, contacts of literary translators who can translate novels from any Indian language into foreign languages (including Portuguese or Spanish). Or translate even English literary texts into foreign languages.  If interested, please contact Anupama Raju raju.anup...@gmail.com -- FN +91-832-2409

Re: [Goanet] MOI- will Kangress dare put their preference for English in the election manifesto?

2011-12-04 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Dear Dr Desai, I like the way you marshalled your facts to lead upto a certain point. I would still think your labelling some institutions as "Catholic dominated" and others as "not Hindu dominated" does indeed betray bias. Why does the average Goan (and the highly educated Goan too) continue to t

Re: [Goanet] Lies and video-tape by our Goans

2011-12-04 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Melvyn, If you really want to go beyond imputations and allegations and do something positive for *The Sixth Night*,why not write a review of it and post it to Goanet? Eddie mentioned something about you submitting a review to GoanVoice.org.uk. As we known, the Goan Voice model is to compile point

[Goanet] Secularism, Goan style...

2011-12-03 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Hate-speech [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech] is not free-speech! Time for history to be left to historians, and for the State to take action against this obnoxious violation of Sec 153(A) of the Criminal Procedure Code [Section 153A. Promoting enmity between different groups on grounds of

[Goanet] Overillumination ...

2011-12-03 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Even in our villages, we have an over-illumination problem. At Sonarbhat (Saligao, where I live), some roads have been flooded with halogen. Others are dark, and some weeks back we've been facing daily half-hour powercuts. Talk of priorities! This is what Chryselle D'Silva wrote on Facebook: QUOT

Re: [Goanet] Why Goa-related books sell and do not sell - personal impression

2011-12-03 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
JC, Thanks for conferring me on expertise in a field where I don't claim to have it. Yes, I have been a longtime collector of Goa-related books (if given the license to brag a bit, over 1500 in my home collection when I last stopped counting, but far fewer than Eddie Fernandes of course). In additi

Re: [Goanet] To add to the debate on English

2011-12-02 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
May I say it here too, that neither "Admin" nor "FN" is my first name. FN are my initials (which I use sometimes *instead* of my name and definitely don't mind if people call me that), and as for what "honorofic titles" I deserve is best left to someone who can disagree less disagreeably in public.

Re: [Goanet] MOI - will Kangress dare put their preference for English in the election manifesto?

2011-12-01 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Dear Dr Desai, While ignoring the flame-baits and all attempts to personalise the debate, I would like point to the politics of your language. * "Pseudo-secularist" has been effectively used as a cover for communalism by the majoritarian party which is today blocking dissent space by claiming to b

Re: [Goanet] To add to the debate on English

2011-12-01 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
This is a good duck doc! You were eloquent in your reluctance to answer... FN On 1 December 2011 04:34, J. Colaco < jc> wrote: > re #2: While I try not to involve anyone else's children or > grandchildren (or spouse) in GN discussions - unless they are public > figures, I will answer your questi

Re: [Goanet] MOI - will Kangress dare put their preference for English in the election manifesto?

2011-11-30 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
On 1 December 2011 00:00, Carvalho wrote: > Dear Frederick, > You are being a contrarian for the sake of it. This brings > to mind a Konkani saying loosely translated to mean, > "you can't change the tail of a dog not even if you > shoot it through a cannon." > > I have run out of steam to debate

Re: [Goanet] MOI - will Kangress dare put their preference for English in the election manifesto?

2011-11-30 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
On 30 November 2011 22:47, anil desai wrote: > I suggest to you that one way of making that decision > democratic would be to put it in the party manifesto for the next elections > in Goa. We would all then know if a majority of Goans support this idea. Doctor, Are you suggesting that such issues

Re: [Goanet] MOI - will Kangress dare put their preference for English in the election manifesto?

2011-11-30 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
On 30 November 2011 16:48, Carvalho wrote: > Having said that, I fully understand your indignation at Anil Desai's post. > To corrupt my argument with his usual saffroni masala and tumeric paste > is not a new trick. > For the record, I fully support the Goan Catholic's desire to learn > in the E

Re: [Goanet] To add to the debate on English

2011-11-30 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
On 30 November 2011 04:27, J. Colaco < jc> wrote: > c: Interesting that FN asks, in one breath: 'What makes English a > "foreign language"?' and then refers us to the TOEFL scores 'specially > in places like Goa'. As arguments, these are good... but I don't know where this logic takes us. One q

[Goanet] Gonzaga Coutinho from Lisbon ... via YouTube

2011-11-30 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Feedback to Gonzaga Coutinho: gonz...@netcabo.pt Gonzaga Coutinho - Shangrilá http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvfXBkAPg-U Gonzaga Coutinho e Sónia Shirsat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj9zvqWpOTk Don Kallzam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8ZXBmucINE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8ZXBmucINE

Re: [Goanet] MOI - will Kangress dare put their preference for English in the election manifesto?

2011-11-30 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
This is really where all that contempt for neo-learners of English and "foreign languages" lead us to... willy-nilly. FN On 30 November 2011 13:00, anil desai wrote: > This was reported in the Herald today. > Anil Desai > BBSM demands govt’s dismissal for violating High Court order >  BBSM demand

Re: [Goanet] I bees childish but I want to know...

2011-11-29 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Selma, I don't want to get into a dog-fight over this one. My actions are out there for everyone to see; if someone feels it is inconsistent, so be it! In addition, I don't want to go about justifying my stands re. Venita Coelho, Jerry Pinto or Cecil Pinto. Personally, I don't feel the need to be

Re: [Goanet] To add to the debate on English

2011-11-29 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
All good arguments, but veering off the point. A few issues struck me while reading this: * What makes English a "foreign language"? National boundaries? Its origins? How does this tie up with its current position in India, where it is used as an associate national language? * Also, what about th

Re: [Goanet] To add to the debate on English

2011-11-29 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Hi Eugene, I think this entire engineered debate was a conspiracy to get unsuspecting you to read Selma's book. Finally! If that was really the case, I would definitely give full marks to Selma, and withdraw all my charges, insinuations, allegations, aspersions, etc, etc about her possibly being el

Re: [Goanet] OLDPHOTO:MUMBAI: Mohammadi Mahal at the Junction of Kalbadevi Road & Girgaon

2011-11-28 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Thanks for that Desmond! Please note, it is not my work though. Over the years, my expertise in cut-and-paste is growing (not that I necessarily look down on this field of creative endeavour). Just yesterday, at the esteemed Cafe Prakash, we were wondering if an apt translation for this kind of wo

[Goanet] Why this Kolaveri di? Or, the shape of English to come in India today and tomorrow....

2011-11-28 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
... or the shape of English to come in India today and tomorrow (regardless of the wagging fingers of a Selma or a Santosh)... My belief is we shoot ourselves in our collective foot, with arguments like (i) the standard of English used in Goa is abysmal or worse than it was (ii) don't use English

Re: [Goanet] To add to the debate on English

2011-11-27 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Hey doc, your class bias is showing! I wouldn't judge anyone on their ability (or lack of it) to speak English. Or any other language for that matter. Guess there are other, deeper qualities which we need to look for in decent human beings! FN On 28 November 2011 03:45, J. Colaco < jc> wrote: >

Re: [Goanet] To add to the debate on English

2011-11-27 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Lest some of our readers feel they're becoming victims, once again, to Goan exclusionism and snobbery in its varied forms, permit me to do a creative and freewheeling translation of the text below: 2011/11/28 Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا : > Dotorbab, M

[Goanet] LINK: An early Goan lithographer in Bombay... Jose M Gonsalves

2011-11-27 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Lithograph of the Marine Battalion at the Esplanade by Jose M. Gonsalves (fl. 1826-c.1842). Plate 4 from his 'Lithographic Views of Bombay' published in Bombay in 1826. Gonsalves, thought to be of Goan origin, was one of the first artists to practice lithography in Bombay and specialised in topogra

Re: [Goanet] To add to the debate on English

2011-11-27 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
On 27 November 2011 22:53, Santosh Helekar wrote: > Jia munxeank tanchi avoibas soddun English ulovnk zai tanni sarki > English xikpachi ani ulovpachi dhasdus korunk zai. Komitkomi tanni > aaplea bhurgeank bori English xikovnk zai. Dotorbab, Maka tuji preskripshun somzona! Ami sogle Ingliss shikl

Re: [Goanet] To add to the debate on English

2011-11-27 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Selma, I don't want to personalise this debate, because it is not about Selma or Venita, Goans or expats. It's about perceptions and arguments based on accuracy. Just some responses: (1) I disagree with Venita's view that Goans need to know better Hindi. Why? Those who need it will learn it, othe

Re: [Goanet] To add to the debate on English

2011-11-27 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Selma, you're shifting the goalposts to justify your earlier post. These are two very different issues here: Jerry Pinto is faulting India's bestselling author for writing in sloppy English. You are targetting the underdog (a subaltern Goan, and most likely a first-generation learner of English, o

Re: [Goanet] To add to the debate on English

2011-11-26 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Cecil, The debate below is about obscenely best-selling authors twisting the English language out of their laziness, or without any method to their madness. The debate on English in today's Goa is quite another thing. If I'm being accurate here, it saw Selma faulting Goans back in Goa (probably fi

[Goanet] Independence? Was: GOVERNMENT OF INDIA TO ISSUE POSTAL STAMP TO MARK 50 YEARS OF GOA?s INDEPENDENCE

2011-11-26 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Independence? Goodness gracious! That would make Mr Naik sound like a certain Colaco in Macau! Since the word "independence" has connotations of its own (e.g. India or Kenya became independent from Britain), wouldn't a more accurate term just be the end of Portuguese colonial rule in Goa? FN >

Re: [Goanet] re Foo will titch our chillren English?

2011-11-26 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Eugene, I'm sorry, but I did not realise you were asking the question without checking the imprint. If I had, I would have not made you go "into the wilderness". Anyway, ghara yo baba, Goa needs you! FN On 26 November 2011 16:32, Eugene Correia wrote: > The answer to my quest as to who edited Se

[Goanet] OLDPHOTO:MUMBAI: Mohammadi Mahal at the Junction of Kalbadevi Road & Girgaon

2011-11-26 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Between St Xavier’s College and Metro Cinema is a Grade-III heritage structure known as Jer Mahal. A cluster of six buildings and an annexe, it represents the finest example of a whole style of vernacular Indian architecture. It has even been called ‘Bombay’s most beautiful chawl’. A Goan cultural

[Goanet] Postal services and rates... some pointers from Goa

2011-11-25 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
* List of post offices with PIN (postal index number) code and telephone numbers in Goa http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6402151299/sizes/l/in/photostream/ * Rs 12 for a speedpost letter (anywhere in Goa), within 50 gms Also phone contacts of the main post office http://www.flickr.com/pho

[Goanet] History Hour | Awakening to the Indian Film Theory | Gaston Roberge

2011-11-23 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
History Hour | Awakening to the Indian Film Theory | Gaston Roberge Time 30 November ·2011 17:30 - 19:30 Location Xavier Centre of Historical Research B B Borkar Road, Alto-Porvorim, Goa 403521. Created by: Xavier Centre of Historic

[Goanet] Digital stories ... from Siolim

2011-11-23 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Just in case you didn't see it earlier http://gocreat.blogspot.com/ -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Saligao Goa IN http://fn.goa-india.org Skype: fredericknoronha --- Protect

[Goanet] Advani, BJP, a former BJP man, and mining... (Tehelka)

2011-11-23 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
AS ADVANI drives from one state to the next, his message is the same. He gives gathered crowds facts on the stash of black money lying in overseas accounts. These are facts he claims to have got from a Washington, DC, based think-tank. He urges the throng to take a vow to eschew black money and bri

Re: [Goanet] ......And BTW When and Where is the Next GOANETTERS DAY in Goa

2011-11-22 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Tony, I have absolutely no issues with what you suggest. Please consult with Goanet chair Herman Carneiro and Bosco and take the plans forward. They are very easy to work with, I can assure you. FN 2011/11/22 Tony de Sa : > Would I have a free hand in selecting my team to make arrangements and do

Re: [Goanet] ......And BTW When and Where is the Next GOANETTERS DAY in Goa

2011-11-22 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Tony, would you take on the initiative for making this happen please? Remember the first law of volunteering: if we suggest something, we should be willing to do what is needed to make ithappen. FN On 22 November 2011 12:42, Tony de Sa wrote: > The month of December is round the corner and time f

[Goanet] Queen's English... from the slums of Mumbai?

2011-11-21 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
--- Goanet Classifieds --- Enescil, a Brazilian engineering firm requires Engineers, Architects and Draftsmen, p

Re: [Goanet] I wonder what words are banned on GoaNet

2011-11-21 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
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[Goanet] Konkani music on German radio (Thursday, Nov 24, 2011)

2011-11-21 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
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Re: [Goanet] Foo will titch our chillren English?

2011-11-20 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
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Re: [Goanet] Foo will titch our chillren English?

2011-11-20 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
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[Goanet] Karwar, on Wikipedia

2011-11-20 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
--- Goanet Classifieds --- Enescil, a Brazilian engineering firm requires Engineers, Architects and Draftsmen, p

Re: [Goanet] Foo will titch our chillren English? (Surely not Selma!)

2011-11-20 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
--- Goanet Classifieds --- Enescil, a Brazilian engineering firm requires Engineers, Architects and Draftsmen, p

Re: [Goanet] Foo will titch our chillren English?

2011-11-20 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
--- Goanet Classifieds --- Enescil, a Brazilian engineering firm requires Engineers, Architects and Draftsmen, p

[Goanet] Two book related items : LL and the reading habit

2011-11-20 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
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Re: [Goanet] The new ‘smell’ of success- Goan feni in an odourless avtar

2011-11-20 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
--- Goanet Classifieds --- Enescil, a Brazilian engineering firm requires Engineers, Architects and Draftsmen, p

Re: [Goanet] Foo will titch our chillren English? (Surely not Selma!)

2011-11-20 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
--- Goanet Classifieds --- Enescil, a Brazilian engineering firm requires Engineers, Architects and Draftsmen, p

Re: [Goanet] One of the posts doing the rounds on Facebook...

2011-11-19 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
--- Goanet Classifieds --- Enescil, a Brazilian engineering firm requires Engineers, Architects and Draftsmen, p

Re: [Goanet] Foo will titch our chillren English? (Surely not Selma!)

2011-11-19 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
--- Goanet Classifieds --- Enescil, a Brazilian engineering firm requires Engineers, Architects and Draftsmen, p

Re: [Goanet] One of the posts doing the rounds on Facebook...

2011-11-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
--- Goanet Classifieds --- Enescil, a Brazilian engineering firm requires Engineers, Architects and Draftsmen, p

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