Re: [Goanet] Konknni Talkies : the Tom Bhembre Show

2007-11-17 Thread Sebastian Borges
Mogall Miguel bab,
Nobody would tolerate a slur on his / her credibility
nor expect others to doubt his / her honesty.  But
they say, you reap as you sow.  So, if you cast slurs
on the credibility of others and doubt their honesty
and that too in a harsh language, you could not
possibly expect anything but retaliation in kind. 
Though I do not doubt your honesty, I had to use your
own medicine to make you realize what you are doing to
the feelings of others.  Now that you have realized
it, no hard feelings! 

You say you do not belong to any CAMP.  But your
crusading spirit gets the better of you and thus you
end up being more loyal to the monarchy than the king
himself or as they say in Portuguese, mais papista
do que o proprio Papa.

All said and done, the two of us seem to share a few
characteristics.  I too do not want awards ( as if I
were eligible for any!).  I have never taken any
subsidies, nor do I need any.  I do not like posts;
but some are thrust upon you.  For instance, once I
got a telephonic message saying that they wanted to
nominate me on some body; could I please send my
biodata.  I remonstrated that I do not qualify for
such a position.  But the person at the other end
insisted.  So I sent a biodata which was much watered
down from the actual.  I was sure that nobody in his
senses would have proceeded any further on the basis
of that.  Imagine my shock when, some ten months
later, I find myself on that body with the added
prefix “Dr.” to which I am not entitled.  Probably on
the same basis, I was appointed on another body.   Not
that these nominations fetch me any monetary benefits.
 May be I could put them on my letterhead.  But I use
the same old letterhead which I printed when I was in
service (canceling out the office address which is no
longer valid); why waste paper?  And I have never used
visiting cards.  But, whenever I could, I have
politely declined the offer of posts. And I too do not
like a seat on the dais.  Although I have been a
teacher all my working life, and addressed a captive
audience, I hate addressing a gathering during a
function because it sounds so artificial, so
self-aggrandizing.  But when you tend to forcefully
put forward what you feel is right about a certain
issue, some people think you would be the best person
for promoting the cause.  So, I sometimes, 
reluctantly, end up on a dais.  I certainly don’t feel
elated in such a situation.

But we are one when it comes to the love of our
mother-tongue.  Yet we clash, most ferociously.  I
will discuss some other day why this happens.  Suffice
it for today to say that we are looking at the issue
from two different angles.

Mog asum.
S. M. Borges 

On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 Miguel Braganza
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Mogall Sebastiao-bab,

If I say I know how a clock works it does not mean
that I work like
a clock! So there!

Yes, I do not accept a slur on my credibility. When I
take pains to be
right ..and I am open to correction when I am wrong
... I expect that
others do not doubt my honesty. Is that too much to
ask?

What is true is true even if everyone doubts it. What
is false is
false , even if everyone doubts it. That Konkani
written in the Roman
script is alive and  showing no signs of dying after
20 years of
official suppression is the truth today.

I do not belong to any CAMP. I am neither a member of
KBM nor of DKA,
not of Konknni Ekvott nor of RLAF. I neither want
awards, nor
subsidies. Neither posts, nor a seat on the dais. 
Konkani is my
Mother Tongue. That is enough for me.

I will rest my case here. You can have the last word .


Mog asundi.

Miguel




  

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Re: [Goanet] Konknni Talkies : the Tom Bhembre Show

2007-11-16 Thread Miguel Braganza

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Mogall Sebastiao-bab,

If I say I know how a clock works it does not mean that I work like
a clock! So there!

Yes, I do not accept a slur on my credibility. When I take pains to be
right ..and I am open to correction when I am wrong ... I expect that
others do not doubt my honesty. Is that too much to ask?

What is true is true even if everyone doubts it. What is false is
false , even if everyone doubts it. That Konkani written in the Roman
script is alive and  showing no signs of dying after 20 years of
official suppression is the truth today.

I do not belong to any CAMP. I am neither a member of KBM nor of DKA,
not of Konknni Ekvott nor of RLAF. I neither want awards, nor
subsidies. Neither posts, nor a seat on the dais.  Konkani is my
Mother Tongue. That is enough for me.

I will rest my case here. You can have the last word .


Mog asundi.

Miguel

Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 04:15:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Sebastian Borges [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Konknni Talkies : the Tom  Bhembre Show

Mogall Miguel bab,
1.  You wrote:
If you are accusing me of being dishonest, you
better be careful. I have an impeccable record for
honesty and dedication to work, where ever I have
served. I have been brought up on the basis of
When honour is lost, it is a relief to die.  .

My response:
Sarkoch taploi muga!  Chodd dukhlem?  Did it hurt?
Why berate me?  I have not accused you of anything.
You have accused yourself.  Please re-read your
statement from which I have drawn a logical
conclusion.  You wrote:
 I believe that the Goa Konkani Akademi is a
semi-Government autonomous body manned by full-time
government servants from the member-Secretary
downwards. Others learn such tricks fast 
specially when convenient! Correct me if I am wrong.
You are right about the official status of GKA.  But
the staff there is of the clerical and subordinate
level; except for the Secretary.  And the occupant of
this post is ephemeral; there have been about half a
dozen occupants in the last year and a half.  In this
situation, I wonder how much training in the
tricks department this incumbent could give to the
clerical staff.  Moreover, all this staff were
appointed in the GKA itself; so they could not have
brought the expertise you impute to them from other
Government departments.  Yet you claim that they
learnt and practiced the tricks which you have
detailed with examples from PWD and the corresponding
analogies in GKA.  This means that ANYONE WHO WORKS IN
GOVERNMENT / SEMI-GOVERNMENT BODIES NECESSARILY
ACQUIRES AND PERFORMS THOSE TRICKS.  Am I wrong?  You
further state:
 I worked long enough in Government and
semi-government autonomous bodies to know how the
system works.
This means that YOU TOO LEARNT THOSE VERY TRICKS WHILE
WORKING THERE.  Now, does it not follow that YOU TOO
MUST HAVE PERFORMED THOSE TRICKS?  If no, why not?
How did you become immune to a malaise which is the
lot of EVERYONE who works in such bodies?  Besides,
each of the bodies where you worked must have been
more lucrative than GKA!
Personally, I have no doubt that you worked with
honesty and dedication and that you have an
unblemished record wherever you served.  In fact, I
know that you had a commendable record.
I didn?t mean to hurt you, but I wanted to drive it
home to you that your contention is fallacious.
However, in the light of your own revelations, you
might have to work real hard to prove this to
goanetters etc. that you were not up to any mischief
when the opportunity was there. ;-)

2.  You wrote:
 I speak Konkani [written as Konknni in Romi lipi,
phonetically and not fanatically].
My response:
Thanks for bringing this up.  The name of our
mothertongue is spelt as KONKNNI in a Konkani sentence
(e.g. hanv Konknni uloitam) but as KONKANI in an
English sentence (e.g. I speak Konkani).  One must not
write I speak Konknni which is what some Ph.D.?s
ERRONEOUSLY (and fanatically?) persist on doing,
though humorists are more law-abiding (see below).

3.  You wrote:
 The spoken form has no script or lipi. If the
Editor of the oHERALDo or Godfrey writes about
speaking
in a script, I hold no brief for them. What is wrong
is wrong, even if the error is not yours. However, do
not add me to the ranks of people who do not know the
difference between a language, a dialect and a
script.

My response:
You may run away from the sins of individuals, but I
don?t think

Re: [Goanet] Konknni Talkies : the Tom Bhembre Show

2007-11-15 Thread Sebastian Borges

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  Xavier Center of Historical Research  presents  HISTORY HOUR

   TOPIC:  Waste Wise - An Interactive Awareness Presentation
on Waste Management in Goa

  SPEAKER:  Clinton Vaz - November 16, 2007 - 5:30pm

  VISIT: http://tinyurl.com/222757

Mogall Miguel bab,
1.  You wrote:
If you are accusing me of being dishonest, you
better be careful. I have an impeccable record for
honesty and dedication to work, where ever I have
served. I have been brought up on the basis of
When honour is lost, it is a relief to die.  I do
not excuse such allegations against my character on
the grounds of age, education or senility of the
accuser. You know what I said about Fr. Moreno de
Souza sj while he was alive after the Catholics for
Devanagri meeting in the Art Gallery of IMB, Panaji.
It is good for one to maintain his own respect. I hope
I do not need to remind you of that.

My response:
Sarkoch taploi muga!  Chodd dukhlem?  Did it hurt? 
Why berate me?  I have not accused you of anything. 
You have accused yourself.  Please re-read your
statement from which I have drawn a logical
conclusion.  You wrote:
 I believe that the Goa Konkani Akademi is a
semi-Government autonomous body manned by full-time
government servants from the member-Secretary 
downwards. Others learn such tricks fast  
specially when convenient! Correct me if I am wrong.
You are right about the official status of GKA.  But
the staff there is of the clerical and subordinate
level; except for the Secretary.  And the occupant of
this post is ephemeral; there have been about half a
dozen occupants in the last year and a half.  In this
situation, I wonder how much training in the
tricks department this incumbent could give to the
clerical staff.  Moreover, all this staff were
appointed in the GKA itself; so they could not have
brought the expertise you impute to them from other
Government departments.  Yet you claim that they
learnt and practiced the tricks which you have
detailed with examples from PWD and the corresponding
analogies in GKA.  This means that ANYONE WHO WORKS IN
GOVERNMENT / SEMI-GOVERNMENT BODIES NECESSARILY
ACQUIRES AND PERFORMS THOSE TRICKS.  Am I wrong?  You
further state:
 I worked long enough in Government and
semi-government autonomous bodies to know how the
system works.
This means that YOU TOO LEARNT THOSE VERY TRICKS WHILE
WORKING THERE.  Now, does it not follow that YOU TOO
MUST HAVE PERFORMED THOSE TRICKS?  If no, why not? 
How did you become immune to a malaise which is the
lot of EVERYONE who works in such bodies?  Besides,
each of the bodies where you worked must have been
more lucrative than GKA! 
Personally, I have no doubt that you worked with
honesty and dedication and that you have an
unblemished record wherever you served.  In fact, I
know that you had a commendable record.
I didn’t mean to hurt you, but I wanted to drive it
home to you that your contention is fallacious. 
However, in the light of your own revelations, you
might have to work real hard to prove this to
goanetters etc. that you were not up to any mischief
when the opportunity was there. ;-) 

2.  You wrote: 
 I speak Konkani [written as Konknni in Romi lipi,
phonetically and not fanatically].
My response:
Thanks for bringing this up.  The name of our
mothertongue is spelt as KONKNNI in a Konkani sentence
(e.g. hanv Konknni uloitam) but as KONKANI in an
English sentence (e.g. I speak Konkani).  One must not
write I speak Konknni which is what some Ph.D.’s
ERRONEOUSLY (and fanatically?) persist on doing,
though humorists are more law-abiding (see below).

3.  You wrote:
 The spoken form has no script or lipi. If the
Editor of the oHERALDo or Godfrey writes about
speaking
in a script, I hold no brief for them. What is wrong
is wrong, even if the error is not yours. However, do
not add me to the ranks of people who do not know the
difference between a language, a dialect and a
script.

My response:
You may run away from the sins of individuals, but I
don’t think you can do so when your CAMP (or LOBBY if
you like)is concerned.  And it is the attitude of your
CAMP towards this expression that I had commented
upon.  I just cited some names as examples.  This was
from recollection.  About Godfrey I was sure; but not
about you.  Hence the question-mark.  Tomazinho’s name
also came up the same way; I recalled his photograph
that appeared in that article and made the gaffe. 
Fortunately, I realized the error while in Margao, so
I could rush back to the Cyber and send the
correction.  
But there is more.  Please look up GOENCHO ULO
(Feb-March ’06).  On the first page you will find a
banner title of an article / 

Re: [Goanet] Konknni Talkies: The Tom Bhembre Show

2007-11-14 Thread Miguel Braganza
Mogall Sebastiao-bab,

Congratulations! I was happy to read that the KONKANI BASHA MANDAL,
Margao [Ph.2750585] in association with the  GOA KONKANI AKADEMI, 243,
Patto colony, Panaji-Goa, is organising a seminar on writing skills
using the ROMAN SCRIPT for Konkani.

I am sure the Covenmor, Vincy Quadros [Ph.9822587498] will use the
spellings recommended in ROMI LIPINT KONKNNI BOURNCHI NEMAVOLL
co-edited by you with my friends Nagesh Karmali, Tomazinho Cardoz and
Jose Salvador Fernandes with Dr. Jayanti Nail as the member-Secretary.

I wish the KONKNNI BOROUPEACHEM XIBIR  on 18 November, 2007 at KBM,
Margao, all the best. May the number of persons, specially youth and
children, writing KONKNNI in ROMAN SCRIPT increase.


Mog asundi.

Miguel

PS

The Tom  Bhembre Show can go on simultaneously. We can transcribe
it in Konknni using both Romi and Devanagri scripts FOR Konknni [not
resorting to English in Romi lipi as the GKA has done for its
CITIZENS' CHARTER ... in the two scripts, two languages formula]

On Nov 13, 2007 12:13 AM, Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mogall Sebastiao-bab,

 You wrote: Godfrey Gonsalves (you too?) reported that, though my speech was 
 distributed in Devanagari, what I SPOKE was in Romi! But none in your CAMP 
 thought of correcting this; so, why
 now? A couple of editorials in English dailies said much the same
 thing.

 Comment: I speak Konkani [written as Konknni in Romi lipi, phonetically and 
 not fanatically]. The spoken form has no script or lipi. If the Editor of the 
 oHERALDo or Godfrey writes about speaking in a script, I hold no brief for 
 them. What is wrong is wrong, even if the error is not yours. However, do not 
 add me to the ranks of people
 who do not know the difference between a language, a dialect and a script. I 
 may not have a Ph.D. ...but I am not a dud like the veneral Dr.Tanaji 
 Halarnkar, former Editor of the G.U.'s Konkani Encyclopaedia, who calls 
 dialects as facets ...and fools no one except himself!

 The only CAMPs I know are the camps I attended during my days in Boy Scouts 
 and NCC. Unlike the President of USA, I have no Camp David type of holiday 
 ranch.


Re: [Goanet] Konknni Talkies: The Tom Bhembre Show

2007-11-12 Thread Sebastian Borges
Mogall Miguel bab,
You wrote: 
 .writer, author and reader of Konkani written
in Romi script [NOT Romi Konkani as some want
tomisrepresent it now a days.]

My comment:
Is this a belated realization on your part? 
Dhomprantlem koplant pavonk itlo vell laglo? And why
blame others for your own sins?  You and your CAMP has
been using the expression Romi Konknni to mean
variously:(1) Konkani written in Roman script, (2)
Konkani spoken by the Roman Catholics in Goa, (3) the
Bardexi dialect of Konkani, (4) the Konkani used in
the Roman Catholic Church litturgy in Goa.  Some of
you (e.g. Fr. Conceicao D’Silva)have even been
claiming to be SPEAKING IN Romi Konknni. A couple of
editorials in English dailies said much the same
thing.  Two years ago,I gave a talk in Konkani about
Msgr. Dalgado at Menezes Braganza Hall,Panjim.  And
Godfrey Gonsalves (you too?) reported that, though my
speech was distributed in Devanagari, what I SPOKE was
in Romi! But none in your CAMP thought of correcting
this; so, why now? And further, has this revised
attitude of yours to the term  Romi Konkani been
ratified by your CAMP?  I doubt it, because I find
Tomazinho Cardozo (the originator of the controversy
and the General of your CAMP) still using the same
term (see e.g. yesterday’s NT Panorama p. 2).  Or is
Tomazinho also misrepresenting it?  


You wrote:
 .both, you and your sleeping stalwart, are
members of the GKA Executive Committee. Why do you not
ask this question there? All the members are expected
to exercise due diligence and have due accountability
...and perhaps even paid sitting fees... to do this
work

My comment:
I did not ask you any question.  I only gave you an
instance of how the accusing / complaining side too
did not help matters.  He did undertake this perfectly
VOLUNTARY activity.  But he is a busy person and has
his own priorities.  He is not saying that he will not
complete it.  Some work has been completed and the
rest is being attended to.  HE HAS NOT TAKEN ANY
ADVANCE FROM GKA FOR THAT PURPOSE.  Therefore, the
Akademi cannot compel him to complete it; they can
only coax him.  But the same cannot be said about
another leader of your CAMP (a past Secretary of
Dalgado Konkani Akademi, nothing less, and 
'publisher' of a Romi Konkani Monthly too!)who has
TAKEN AN ADVANCE of Rs. Thirty thousand only for a
research project on Mando.  He failed to submit the
Report for over a year beyond the stipulated and
agreed time schedule for completion.  During this
period, he was sent several reminders and warnings. 
Finally he went to GKA office and left a CD on the
President's table (in the latter's absence), without
even a covering letter. All that the CD contains is
THREE TYPED PAGES OF TEXT.  This matter came up during
a meeting of the Executive.  Tomazinho rang him up
from there itself.  He was told that everything was
there in the CD except for the performance which is
also a part of the contract. Tomazinho requested him
to come over to the GKA ofice some time and help open
the CD. But, FOUR MONTHS down the line, he has not
found the time to do so.  In fact, he did come there
at least twice; but always in a hurry, as he had to
distribute invitations!  And the same scoundrel
berates the GKA from the platform as well as in the
press.  (You must have attended the publication
function of the Biography of M. Boyer on October 11
last at Kala Akademi, and also read GT of the days
preceding and following the event.)  Such people are
real assets for your movement which has always THRIVED
ON BLATANT LIES.

You wrote:
. I worked long enough in Government and
semi-government autonomous bodies to know how the
system works. In the PWD, if one does not wish a
particular contractor to bid there are some simple
solutions 1. Disqualify his class [as for Romi
writers] 2. Do not accept his application for tender
form [concept of book] 3. Accept the application but
not the completed tender [manuscript]. After that one
can, WITH ALL HONESTY, say that the particular tender
was never
rejected because it was NEVER RECEIVED in the first
place!

I believe that the Goa Konkani Akademi is a
semi-Government autonomous body manned by full-time
government servants from the member-Secretary
downwards.

My comment:
Just because you indulged in some dishonest acts while
working in Government or semi-Government autonomous
organizations or because such acts are quite common in
such offices, you cannot presume that GKA did
likewise; you have to provide proof.  And it better be
fool-proof; too many members of your CAMP have been
exposed as LIARS.

You wrote:
 The two of you have worked together on some book
projects of GKA, too. So he is part of YOUR CAMP,too.
Or do you want to deny it now?

My response:
Jointly working with sleeping stalwart on some
projects does not necessarily make me amember of
his/your CAMP.  So the question of denying NOW or EVER
just does not arise.  You seem to conveniently forget
when it suits you.  Don't 

Re: [Goanet] Konknni Talkies : the Tom Bhembre Show - a correction

2007-11-12 Thread Sebastian Borges
Mogall Miguel bab,
Proffuse apologies for the error which cropped in my
earlier post.  The article in NT Panorama to which I
referred in a bracket was by Mario Cabral e Sa and NOT
by Tomazinho Cardozo.  The bracket may please be
expunged and me excused.  But for this and the comment
thereon, the post is free of error.
When I typed the matter, I did not have the NT at
hand. But after leaving the Cyber, I visited a friend
in Margao where I had an opportunity to check and
realise my error. Extremely sorry for the gaffe.

Mog asum.
S. M. Borges


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Re: [Goanet] Konknni Talkies: The Tom Bhembre Show

2007-11-12 Thread Miguel Braganza
Mogall Sebastiao-bab,

You wrote: Godfrey Gonsalves (you too?) reported that, though my
speech was distributed in Devanagari, what I SPOKE was
in Romi! But none in your CAMP thought of correcting this; so, why
now? A couple of editorials in English dailies said much the same
thing.

Comment: I speak Konkani [written as Konknni in Romi lipi,
phonetically and not fanatically]. The spoken form has no script or
lipi. If the Editor of the oHERALDo or Godfrey writes about speaking
in a script, I hold no brief for them. What is wrong is wrong, even if
the error is not yours. However, do not add me to the ranks of people
who do not know the difference between a language, a dialect and a
script. I may not have a Ph.D. ...but I am not a dud like the veneral
Dr.Tanaji Halarnkar, former Editor of the G.U.'s Konkani
Encyclopaedia, who calls dialects as facets ...and fools no one
except himself!

The only CAMPs I know are the camps I attended during my days in Boy
Scouts and NCC. Unlike the President of USA, I have no Camp David type
of holiday ranch.

You wrote: Tomazinho Cardozo (the originator of the controversy
and the General of your CAMP) still using the same term (see e.g.
yesterday?s NT Panorama p. 2).  Or is Tomazinho also misrepresenting
it?

Comment: You have subsequently corrected yourself on this count and
accepted that it was Mario Cabral e Sa who wrote it in the NT
Panaorama. I have accepted that. To err is human. the error and the
retraction only reinforces my firm belief that you are human  and
the goodness is not lost to the Devanagri cause as in the case of some
others from Margao whom I know only too well by now.

You wrote: Just because you indulged in some dishonest acts while
working in Government or semi-Government autonomous organizations or
because such acts are quite common in
such offices, you cannot presume that GKA did likewise; you have to
provide proof.  And it better be fool-proof; too many members of your
CAMP have been exposed as LIARS.

Comment: If you are accusing me of being dishonest, you better be
careful. I have an impeccable record for honesty and dedication to
work, where ever I have served. I have been brought up on the basis of
When honour is lost, it is a relief to die.  I do not excuse such
allegations against my character on the grounds of age, education or
senility of the accuser. You know what I said about Fr. Moreno de
Souza sj while he was alive after the Catholics for Devanagri meeting
in the Art Gallery of IMB, Panaji. It is good for one to maintain his
own respect. I hope I do not need to remind you of that.

The record of what has not been entered in the books cannot be
produced now. How much the GKA wants the Romi lipi writers to use its
schemes is answered by its latest CITIZEN'S CHARTER published in
Konkani in Devanagri script and English in Roman script!  So what
happens to applicants who write Konkani in Romi lipi as per GKA's own
orthography co-authored by you?

In response to a GT question on whether the Goa Government's proposed
Tiatr Academy should have its research in Roman script Serafin-bab
of your very own Konkani Ekvot replied in the afirmative thus, YES.
It should be writen in English Such are the devious ways of your
companions and fellow Ekvot,ek samaj, ek lipi votaries. The duplicity
of your other Ekvoter, Shridhar Kamat is exposed by the Goa 365
channel this evening. The Trojan horse of the Digu-bab lobby in the
GBA is not as smart as the Rane's Uday of the KPA.

 The GKA office has not been able to give a complete answer to a RTI
application on books subsidized by it. If you can fill in the gaps, I
would be obliged. The Guard File copy will be accessible to you as an
Executive member of the GKA, I presume ...or else, I can make a photo
copy of the reply available to you. When the proof is available to you
in-house, why ask me to produce it to you.

Mog asundi.

Miguel

Message: 12
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:47:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Sebastian Borges [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Konknni Talkies: The Tom  Bhembre Show
Mogall Miguel bab,
You wrote:
 .writer, author and reader of Konkani written
in Romi script [NOT Romi Konkani as some want
tomisrepresent it now a days.]

My comment:
Is this a belated realization on your part?
Dhomprantlem koplant pavonk itlo vell laglo? And why
blame others for your own sins?  You and your CAMP has
been using the expression Romi Konknni to mean
variously:(1) Konkani written in Roman script, (2)
Konkani spoken by the Roman Catholics in Goa, (3) the
Bardexi dialect of Konkani, (4) the Konkani used in
the Roman Catholic Church litturgy in Goa.  Some of
you (e.g. Fr. Conceicao D?Silva)have even been
claiming to be SPEAKING IN Romi Konknni. A couple of
editorials in English dailies said much the same
thing.  Two years ago,I gave a talk in Konkani about
Msgr. Dalgado at Menezes Braganza Hall,Panjim.  And
Godfrey Gonsalves (you too?) reported that, though my
speech was distributed in Devanagari, what

Re: [Goanet] Konknni Talkies: The Tom Bhembre Show

2007-11-09 Thread Sebastian Borges
Mogall Miguel-bab
I shall leave what you say about me for another day
because I feel it is not important at the moment.  So
let me come straight to the point.  You say,  ….
actually part of the syndicate that has denied Konknni
books in Romi lipi even a single award of Sahitya
Puroskar for a
DECADE since 1988. Do not tell me that Devanagri
Konknni books were
consistently found superior  ...or that Adv. Uday
Bhembre or the other
Rats cannot read and understand Romi enough to
discover the
superiority of these books.

My response:
This “cry wolf” story has been heard / read too often.
 At one time it was claimed that the Goa Konkani
Akademi is meting out ‘step-motherly treatment’ and
doing injustice towards Romi writers by not assisting
the publication of their books as it does in the case
of Devanagari writers. And it sounded true, since the
GKA had not published any Romi book for a long time. 
So everyone believed this to be the Gospel truth,
especially since it was told by Catholics (priests
included) for whom it is a sin to tell a lie.  Nobody
bothered to check the truth behind this fact.  I did. 
And what did I find?  (1) Not a single manuscript in
Romi had been submitted to the GKA during all this
time; therefore, the question of rejecting Romi books
just did not arise.  (2) Some Romi stalwarts undertook
to write books but slept on the job.  For instance,
one such worthy has been sleeping on “an anthology of
101 tiatr songs” for well over 16 years!  And yet he
had the temerity to level the above charge against the
GKA.  So, pray, how does one expect the GKA to publish
/ assist in the publication of books whose manuscripts
do not reach it?

Charges of bias against judges at competitions is a
common feature in Goa, as can be seen after every
tiatr competition.  This year was no different in this
respect; one ‘publisher’ of a Romi Konkani Monthly
went to the extent of literally drowning the judges in
his bile, even questioning their very credentials to
sit on such a panel.  But this year, a different type
of incident also took place.  Being tired of sitting
it out in the Open Air Theatre, a leader realized that
Natok Competitions are always staged in the
Air-conditioned (AC) theatre whilst Tiatr Competition
is held in the Open Air (OA) Theatre.  Ergo,
“step-motherly treatment”!  Tiatr must be treated on
par with Natok and the competition must be held in AC
theatre.  And so it was done.  But the capacity of AC
theatre is nowhere comparable to that of OA theatre. 
Result: scores of tiatr aficionados, whom the leader
claims to represent, were left out in the cold.  They
had to enjoy some scuffles outside instead of the
tiatr inside.  This pent-up collective anger ended
with fracas with the security personnel and some
damage to the property of the Kala Akademi.  Why
bother about the ‘riffraff’ when the leader can loll
in air-conditioned comfort? 
  
After several such empty “cry wolf” episodes, stark
lies and half-truths, many of which have already been
exposed as such, comes the latest one about Sahitya
Puroskars of the Kala Akademi:  “since 1988, Romi
books have been consistently and unfairly denied this
Award.”  This charge also rings true, because it fits
the fact: no Romi book has earned this award for a
long time.  It tacitly and obviously assumes that
there were Romi titles which merited the honour. 
However, “Do not tell me that Devanagri Konknni books
were consistently found superior” is a hypothetical
statement.  In order to prove the charge we have to
show that such books did exist in Romi at the relevant
point in time.  To test that aspect, Miguel bab, I
have to make a sincere request to you.  Please make a
list of just TEN of the books which  ACCORDING TO 
YOUR CAMP would have merited the award, had the judges
and their selection been fair and unbiased. The books
need not be listed in the order of merit; but, in each
case, please state the following: (1) title, (2)
author, (3) year of publication and (4) where and when
a literary review/s of the book appeared in print. If
possible, you could also provide a list of the
undeserving titles in Devanagari which instead were
unfairly given the award.  With this information we
should be able to make an objective (and comparative)
assessment of the case.  So, please help.

Should you find it difficult to muster TEN Romi
titles, please feel free to reduce the number to suit
your convenience.  And please do not take this as an
affront, because it certainly is not meant to be so;
it arises from some facts in my knowledge.  (1) Some
time back, I was informed that some persons in the
Konkani Movement requested Felicio Cardoso and
Tomazinho Cardozo to select some meritorious books in
Romi so that they could be transliterated into
Devanagari and rendered eligible to compete for the
Sahitya Akademi award.  Both of them are said to have
expressed their inability in this regard because “we
do not have any books of that level in Romi.”  (2)
About a decade ago,