Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-23 Thread Robert Engels
Ah. I forgot I was on that Internet thingy. > On Aug 23, 2023, at 2:29 AM, TheDiveO wrote: > > "That education place" considers thermodynamics to be a cultural issue, see > their waterseer disaster where MIT even doubled down on not understanding > physics and thermodynamics at all. > >>

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-23 Thread TheDiveO
"That education place" considers thermodynamics to be a cultural issue, see their waterseer disaster where MIT even doubled down on not understanding physics and thermodynamics at all. On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 1:57:22 PM UTC+2 Robert Engels wrote: > MIT = “that education place” is pretty

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-20 Thread Amnon
IDE is indeed a personal choice. The Go developer survey often asks which IDE people use. Last year, the favourite was VS code with 45% of users, followed by Goland with 34%. On Sunday, 20 August 2023 at 17:38:26 UTC+1 burak serdar wrote: > On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 1:52 AM TheDiveO wrote: > >>

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-20 Thread burak serdar
On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 1:52 AM TheDiveO wrote: > well, our "(major) engineering orgs" leave the choice of IDE to our devs. > Devs have different styles, so as long as they meed the demand, who cares. > I second that. IDE is a personal choice. For years, I've been using Emacs to edit code, and

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-20 Thread Robert Engels
Depends on the size of the org. If you encourage pair programming on even “active code review” - not having a standardized ide it a problem. Also larger org add in their own tooling integrations - and doing that for multiple IDEs is not cost effective. > On Aug 20, 2023, at 2:52 AM, TheDiveO

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-20 Thread Robert Engels
MIT = “that education place” is pretty funny. But you’re spot on. > On Aug 20, 2023, at 2:51 AM, TheDiveO wrote: > > That education place has never talked to any employer, that's what their > list suggests. It's not about the items on this list. It won't ever correct. > But it is basically

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-20 Thread TheDiveO
well, our "(major) engineering orgs" leave the choice of IDE to our devs. Devs have different styles, so as long as they meed the demand, who cares. On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 11:17:35 PM UTC+2 Robert Engels wrote: > Reread what I wrote. Vim with autocomplete, etc is not a simple text >

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-20 Thread TheDiveO
That education place has never talked to any employer, that's what their list suggests. It's not about the items on this list. It won't ever correct. But it is basically saying that with one or a few more classes you're ready for your job. That's marketing selling. Depending on the job there's

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-19 Thread Rich
I used to hate it because costs so darn much but goland is my ide. I dnt hate vs code, I've done vm and really like neovim nv chad, but at the end I just am more productive in goland. Even tried fleet but always come back to goland.for me the time saved is worth the price. On Saturday, August

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-19 Thread Justin Israel
I usually hate this question and threads, because it's a bunch of people arguing that their solution is superior. There are always individuals stating how all they need is VIM or a plain text editor with no syntax highlighting. And then those like myself that feel very productive from the

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-19 Thread Robert Engels
Reread what I wrote. Vim with autocomplete, etc is not a simple text editor with syntax coloring. Still every major software engineering org in the world uses an ide (or multiple). I guess they don’t know what they are doing. Btw, Googles current IDE is based on VSCode. > On Aug 19, 2023,

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-19 Thread Jan Mercl
On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 10:06 PM Christian Stewart wrote: > Autocomplete and a go language server (gopls) add a ton of speed because you > don't need to look up the docs for function and variable names. And go to > definition improves speed navigating code significantly. - Using autocomplete

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-19 Thread 'Christian Stewart' via golang-nuts
Autocomplete and a go language server (gopls) add a ton of speed because you don't need to look up the docs for function and variable names. And go to definition improves speed navigating code significantly. But vim-go can do both, so why not just use it? It's a significant speed increase to

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-19 Thread Jan Mercl
On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 9:42 PM Robert Engels wrote: > I guarantee that two developers of equal competence - the one with a powerful > IDE will outperform the other using a text editor with syntax highlighting > (but come on that is a crutch a real developer doesn’t need) by 2-10x > depending

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-19 Thread Robert Engels
I guarantee that two developers of equal competence - the one with a powerful IDE will outperform the other using a text editor with syntax highlighting (but come on that is a crutch a real developer doesn’t need) by 2-10x depending on the task. You simply cannot work on large complex systems

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-19 Thread Andrew Harris
The kinds of skills and knowledge covered by https://missing.csail.mit.edu are important and hard to gain from an IDE. I think that's the badge of competence earned here. On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 11:21:44 AM UTC-7 Robert Engels wrote: The power of IDEs is the ease of refactoring and

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-19 Thread Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
Just my opinion. I believe Visual Studio Code (VSC) is really good, given that it is available on multiple platforms and it's free. Thanks Dharani On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 11:21 AM Robert Engels wrote: > The power of IDEs is the ease of refactoring and integration with other > build tools (git,

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-19 Thread Robert Engels
The power of IDEs is the ease of refactoring and integration with other build tools (git, lint, github/gerrit). If you’d added all of these plugins to vim - you’ve created your own ide - and it probably pales in comparison to a real IDE.Using plain vim as a badge of competence was disproven long

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-19 Thread William Rehwinkel
I use vim for go with the standard syntax highlighting and gofmt. With gofmt catching errors when I save, compiler errors and looking up things with godoc, I don't see the need for anything else. But that's just me On 8/19/23 05:27, alex-coder wrote: Hi All ! Gophers, there is at least 10

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-19 Thread Robert Engels
I would just have chatgpt write all your Go code. > On Aug 19, 2023, at 7:41 AM, peterGo wrote: > >  > On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 6:23:39 AM UTC-4 TheDiveO wrote: > Nothing better than an IBM card puncher as my IDE! > > I prefer a Teletype Model 33 ASR. > > -- > You received this

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-19 Thread peterGo
On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 6:23:39 AM UTC-4 TheDiveO wrote: Nothing better than an IBM card puncher as my IDE! I prefer a Teletype Model 33 ASR. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "golang-nuts" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-19 Thread TheDiveO
Nothing better than an IBM card puncher as my IDE! On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 11:38:33 AM UTC+2 Jan Mercl wrote: > On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 11:27 AM alex-coder wrote: > > > Gophers, may be there is another place where I should look for IDE for > GO ? > > Unix is my IDE and vim is its

Re: [go-nuts] Best IDE for GO ?

2023-08-19 Thread Jan Mercl
On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 11:27 AM alex-coder wrote: > Gophers, may be there is another place where I should look for IDE for GO ? Unix is my IDE and vim is its prophet. IME IDEs make programmers write low quality code while enjoying the illusion of being "more productive". -- You received